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<boomshroom> I'm trying to copy my laptop's system to my desktop (to copy back on a different store) with nix-copy-closure, but even with -v, I'm not seeing any output.
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<boomshroom> NVM. Connection timed out
<Lisanna> Hey, how are problems in hackage-packages.nix fixed?
<Lisanna> since it's an autogenerated file
<boomshroom> 19*2*, not 19*8*
<ylwghst> chrishill: tr nixos-rebuild with this in configuration.nix
* boomshroom facepalms
<chrishill> ylwghst: Wow, thanks so much for that! I’ll get right on it
<boomshroom> error: importted archive of '...glibc-2.25' lacks a signature
<Lisanna> Specifically: the entry for simplessh contains an error that prevents it from building, such that ssh2 gets set to null, instead of the actual nixpkgs package
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<ylwghst> chrishill: im not sure if i used correct attribute
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<tilpner> ylwghst - Why overrideDerivation over overrideAttrs?
<chrishill> ylwghst: `super.xkbcomp` should perhaps be `super.xorg.xkbcomp` instead. I’ll try
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<boomshroom> What's the reason for "--include-outputs" in nix-copy-closure?
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<chrishill> It evaulated correctly and now it’s downloading, so it ssems to be working! 🤞 👌
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<chrishill> Just needed to change the attribute path
<ylwghst> chrishill: really ? i still get wrong attribute even with xorg.
<ylwghst> tilpner: im not sure ? what shall i use?
<tilpner> ylwghst - According to https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-pkg-overrideDerivation "You should prefer overrideAttrs in almost all case"
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<ylwghst> tilpner: ok
<boomshroom> Why is nix-copy-closure complaining that glibc is lacking a signature?
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<ylwghst> i forget update from temp > /etc haha
<ylwghst> forgot*
<boomshroom> Alternatively, can I use nix-push and nix-pull to move my configuration to a different partition?
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<chrishill> ylwghst: https://pastebin.com/Lrmi0QgF
<chrishill> I think I only changed the `super.xorg` part
<ylwghst> yep
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] acowley opened pull request #31015: ffmpeg-full: fix on darwin (master...ffmpeg-full-darwin) https://git.io/vFq53
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<chrishill> Indeed the keyboard layouts worked properly again with the old Xkbcomp version
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<ylwghst> chrishill: what's wrong with the new one?
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<paperdigits[m]> hello
<boomshroom> Does anyone know how to merge a nix system into another partition that already has a Nix store?
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<paperdigits[m]> I'm trying to update hugin in nixpkg. it builds successfully, but the binaries are not present. A friend on gentoo had a similar problem and just needed to another directory to the path. When nix-env successfully installs a package, is there anyway to view the content of the build dir?
<paperdigits[m]> boomshroom: just add the relevant config and rebuild?
<boomshroom> I have a Nix installation and I separate store. I want to move the installation to that pre-existing store.
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<ylwghst> paperdigits[m]: after build is done everything is stored in /nix/store
<ylwghst> paperdigits[m]: and binaries should be linked in ~/.nix-profile/
<chrishill> ylwghst: when I compile with the newer Xkbcomp some key mappings don’t work. In particular, I have them mapped to keys like Escape, Home, End, etc.: not alphanumeric or symbolic keys, so to speak. So the problem seems to lie with mapping to functional keys like Escape etc.
<paperdigits[m]> ylwghst: thanks!
<ylwghst> chrishill: I see
<ylwghst> paperdigits[m]: does your package has /usr ?
<ylwghst> paperdigits[m]: nix doesn't use usr
<ylwghst> so everything from usr has to be in $out/
<ylwghst> so if there is /usr/bin/binary
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<ylwghst> you need to move it into $out/bin/binary
<paperdigits[m]> I will be able to tell when this build is done :)
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<ylwghst> within installPhase
<ylwghst> paperdigits[m]: so search for them in ~/.nix-profile/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] GregoriosLion opened pull request #31016: kakoune: 2017-04-12 -> 2017-10-31 (master...master) https://git.io/vFqd3
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<tilpner> paperdigits[m] - Do you want the build dir, or the output?
<paperdigits[m]> tilpner: I'd like to see what is in the build dir
<paperdigits[m]> the hugin binary isn't in the nix store
<paperdigits[m]> some of the binaries are there, but not the main hugin one
<tilpner> So you want the output dir
<paperdigits[m]> I believe I do.
<tilpner> You can build a package with "nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A hugin"
<tilpner> That will output a path, and symlink the output dir to ./result
<tilpner> That will only show what is installed, not the build artifacts
<tilpner> E.g. for the current version of hugin, you'll see there is bin/hugin, which is relevant for it being accessible via PATH
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<paperdigits[m]> tilnper, the necessary path for hugin 2017.0.0 is something like bin/hugin/hugin
<tilpner> That sounds wrong, why do you think that's the necessary path?
<paperdigits[m]> let me find the bug report tilpner
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqdj
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 54d1e14 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.lablgtk: 2.18.5 -> 2.18.6
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] geistesk opened pull request #31017: racket: 6.10.1 -> 6.11 (master...racket-6.11) https://git.io/vFqFW
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<paperdigits[m]> tilpner: seems it is in /usr/lib64/hugin on Gentoo
<paperdigits[m]> seems that upstream thinks it is a packaging problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/1705956
<paperdigits[m]> and here is my friend's bug report in sabayon: https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5452
<tilpner> paperdigits[m] - Can you share your Nix file?
<paperdigits[m]> tilpner: yes, pushing this branch up to github
<orivej> paperdigits[m]: the most convenient way to perform the build process step by step to examine what is wrong is with https://github.com/dezgeg/nix-debug-shell
<adisbladis> disasm: Sorry I dropped out, had to go to sleep.
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<vaibhavsagar> how do I run tests for a haskell project in nix-shell?
<tilpner> paperdigits[m] - But all the other executables are available, right? Things like hugin_hdrmerge and pto_lensstack?
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<paperdigits[m]> tilpner: most of the other programs are there, hugin_hdrmerge is there, yes.
<paperdigits[m]> tilpner: hugin has a lot of smaller programs, I'm not sure of all of htem
<tilpner> Even the intermediate build directory doesn't contain a hugin file
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<orivej> paperdigits[m]: configure phase writes: "Found wxWidgets: (found version "2.8.12"); At least wxWidgets 3.0 is required; wxWidgets was not found, GUI programs (hugin, nona_gui) disabled"
<paperdigits[m]> orivej: thanks, where would I have looked to have found that?
<ldlework> Is anyone here using NixOS on Digital Ocean?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 33c0dca Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.alcotest: 0.7.2 -> 0.8.1
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<orivej> paperdigits[m]: In the output during nix-build. But I did not notice this from the first glance, so I looked in the build dir for the rule to build "hugin" and found the comment "# build gui only if wxWidgets was found". Only then did I look into the build log to see what it says about wxwidgets.
<paperdigits[m]> maybe I need wxGTK30 instead of wxGTK which is 2.8.x
<orivej> correct
<paperdigits[m]> orivej: thanks, rebuilding
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<paperdigits[m]> thanks everyone, hugin seems to work now. I'll submit a PR shortly.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] paperdigits opened pull request #31018: hugin: 2016.2.0 -> 2017.0.0 (master...hugin-2017.0.0) https://git.io/vFqxU
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] teto opened pull request #31019: [RFC] make l2tp work with Strongswan (master...strongswan_rebased) https://git.io/vFqxI
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<pxc> to whoever's cutting the NixCon videos from the jumble of live streams and uploading them to YouTube all nice and neat: thank you! :-)
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<ldlework> Hmm, I just tried to deploy the NixOps Digital Ocean example, and I got: error: a ‘x86_64-linux’ is required to build ‘/nix/store/ww2z6pkfqzlin98sx5gkv55yqi8mynxn-append-initrd-secrets.drv’, but I am a ‘x86_64-darwin’
<ldlework> Is it really the case I can't use NixOps on OSX if I'm targeting a remote linux host?
<ldlework> I see that yes, this is really the case. Bleh, lol.
<scribbler> isn't there some means of specifying remote builders as a way to deal with this?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] wizeman reopened pull request #12604: Fake Xcode derivation (master...fake-xcode) https://git.io/vzKHZ
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<clever> ldlework: the multi-user install breaks the code in nixops that deals with that automatically
<clever> ldlework: so you need to either
<clever> a: manualy add a linux slave to /etc/nix/machines
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<clever> b: run nixops as root on darwin with NIX_REMOTE unset
<clever> c: reinstall nix in single-user mode
<ldlework> clever do I convert my multi-user install to single user by simply chmod'ing some stuff?
<clever> ldlework: i think you could do it by, stopping the nix-daemon service from running, and chown -R /nix/store
<clever> ldlework: as long as you have +w to the store, it will work without the daemon, so you just have to stop the daemon from making root-only things
<clever> and nixops can only do its automation if NIX_REMOTE is unset, which requires +w to /nix/store/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFqhr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 37f548e Mica Semrick: hugin: 2016.2.0 -> 2017.0.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 324cf24 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #31018 from paperdigits/hugin-2017.0.0...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] GregoriosLion closed pull request #31016: kakoune: upstream update and disabled debug flag (master...master) https://git.io/vFqd3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #31020: mht2htm: init at 1.8.1.35 (master...p/mht) https://git.io/vFqju
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<srk> any idea why master won't boot anymore under openvz? getting Failed to canonicalize path /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.d: Too many levels of symbolic links on most services
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<srk> if I know that 17.03 is working can I just bisect from release-17.03 branch upwards?
<ldlework> clever how does this fix the issue?
<clever> ldlework: if nix is running without nix-daemon, then the env variables of the nix-build process control the build slaves
<clever> ldlework: so nixops can auto-configure nix-build to use the target machine as a build slave
<ldlework> I see
<clever> but if nix-daemon is in use, it has to be setup in /etc/nix/machines, and only root can write to that
<clever> so the automation just gives up and shuts off
<clever> then you need to manually configure linux build slaves
<ldlework> clever I feel like the nix install script should have a switch for this
<jluttine> hmm.. how should i set the channel in configuration.nix? i tried using: nix.nixPath=["nixpkgs=https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-17.09/nixexprs.tar.xz"]; but this just causes nix to download that tar.xz almost everytime i do something related to nixpkgs..
<jluttine> so it doesn't behave similarly compared to setting the channel in the traditional way
<srk> jluttine: I'm now using nix.nixPath = [ "/etc" "nixos-config=/etc/nixos/configuration.nix" ]; with nixpkgs checkout in /etc/nixpkgs
<jluttine> srk: yep, i have that kind of setup in one of my computers. but i would like to have a simpler setup on others as i'm not the one using those
<srk> I see
<jluttine> so that "nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade" would work
<srk> right
<jluttine> and "nixos-rebuild switch" wouldn't upgrade
<srk> I would like to automate this as well so I can just say 'run from master' in config
<ldlework> clever I did what you said but I got the same error
<jluttine> at least i don't want any upgrade to happen when just syncing my configuration with "nixos-rebuild switch"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #31023: xfce4-settings: build w/ xorg-libinput, make some dependencies optional (master...xfce4-settings/libinput) https://git.io/vFmfg
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<clever> ldlework: you may need to unset NIX_REMOTE and ensure the nix-daemon has stopped
* clever heads to bed
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<fearlessKim[m]> would you add a language server in pkgs/server ? (thinking about clangd/ https://github.com/palantir/python-language-server for instance)
<fearlessKim[m]> I might package the 2nd one but not sure wheere to put it
<ldlework> clever if you wanted to take a look tomorrow, https://gist.github.com/dustinlacewell-wk/8cfd1ea90787ed0816b91e6c4298d28b
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<ldlework> I guess I will go with a 🐳 container in the mean time
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #31024: xfce4-panel: patch gettext in xfce4-popup-* scripts, fixes #30033 (master...xfce4-panel/gettext) https://git.io/vFmJb
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<Lisanna> "unsupported argument ‘sha256’ to ‘fetchurl’, at 0x1a33f728"
<Lisanna> ^ literally wtf
<ldlework> It seems my problem has to do with Nix not being able to ssh to the new machine....
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<Lisanna> Okay, so I found out I was accidentally using some really weird "builtin" version of fetchurl, but if I took out the task, /it worked/
<Lisanna> took out the hash*
<Lisanna> it downloaded the file, and the whole derivation depending on it built
<Lisanna> without me giving it the hash of the file
<Lisanna> and I'm building with the Nix sandbox turned on
<gchristensen> Lisanna: there are a teeny tiny (1, 2) builtins that let you be impure with the sandbox
<Lisanna> Okay... this seems like a pretty easy typo to make though... pkgs.fetchurl vs. fetchurl
<gchristensen> it sounds like you've done with builtins; somewhere
<Lisanna> oh... yeah, I have
<Lisanna> wait... how does builtins.fetchurl know when to use the cache of the file and when to download fresh?
<Lisanna> When I used it in my derivation without supplying a sha256, it downloaded it once, and then re-used the cached value
<Lisanna> but what if the file on the web changed?
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<gchristensen> it reuses the cached value for a few minutes
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #31025: strip: --strip-all in libexec, bin, sbin (master...strip) https://git.io/vFmUj
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<hyper_ch> hmmm, Nixos Unstable Small has been stuck for 8 days :(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFmIP
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3e4b500 Kevin Quick: maintainers: add Kevin Quick
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6015fdc Kevin Quick: theft: add new theft development library package
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bb47bea Kevin Quick: Enable checks and remove unnecessary lines.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] andir opened pull request #31026: quagga: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 (CVE-2017-16227) (master...quagga-cve-16227) https://git.io/vFmLv
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<hyper_ch> yesterday some scammer called my office telling he was a microsoft employee and wanted to talk with the person in charge... since I had a deadline that I needed to keep, I gave instructions to my phone service not forward calls...
<hyper_ch> now I wonder if that person will try again today to call and hence I'm ondering to setup a windows in a vm to see what they're actually going to do
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<sphalerite> Nixpkgs's generate-config.pl for the kernel has a bug :(
<hyper_ch> sphalerite :(
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<vaibhavsagar> how do I run tests from the nix-shell of a haskell project?
<vaibhavsagar> I thought it would be cabal configure --enable-tests; cabal build; cabal test but that doesn't seem to be enough
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<vaibhavsagar> okay, it looks like I need to do "runhaskell Setup.hs configure --enable-tests; runhaskell Setup.hs build; runhaskell Setup.hs test" and that works
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/darwin-parallel ea6a406 Domen Kožar: darwin: build apple stuff in parallel
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #31026: quagga: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 (CVE-2017-16227) (master...quagga-cve-16227) https://git.io/vFmLv
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 7cf6631 Andreas Rammhold: quagga: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2...
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<fearlessKim[m]> arg pypi seems in bad shape I get 503 errors
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<disasm> adisbladis: no problem, vcunat took care of it :)
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<srhb> What's the manual way of activating a new system closure after copy-closure-ing it to a remote host?
<srhb> nix-env --profile system --set ...?
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<vincent_vdk> is there a way to make environments transparant to your shell?
<srhb> vincent_vdk: What do you mean?
<vincent_vdk> i would like to have my zsh shell and prompt when running in a nix-shell
<srhb> --command zsh?
<vincent_vdk> hmmm
<manveru> vincent_vdk: best option for that is direnv imho
<vincent_vdk> sorry if i ask noob questions. just started NixOS last weekend
<vincent_vdk> and it is quite different
<vincent_vdk> :)
<manveru> :)
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<adisbladis> goibhniu: I tried to improve upon the noise reduction a bit but it's pretty difficult
<numerobis> Hi! I am trying to reverse a nix-rebuild switch --upgrade (because the upgrade did not work and I can't use 'nixos-rebuild anymore) Is there a way to do that? i've looked in the manual, but haven't found it explained... Thanks!/
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<srhb> What do I need to feed nix-build in order to build another machine's configuration.nix?
<LnL> you can run sudo nix-channel --rollback to revert the --upgrade part
<LnL> nix-build '<nixos/nixos>' -I nixos-config=/path/to/configuration.nix -A config.system.toplevel
<LnL> IIRC
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<numerobis> LnL: Thank you very much, I'll try that :)
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<DIzFer[m]> I'm trying to use php-imagick with a config that has traditionally worked, but for some weeks now nixos-rebuild stops because it says imagick can't find pkgconfig. Weird thing is that I can see pkgs.pkgconfig in php-imagick's nativeBuildInputs. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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<numerobis> LnL: That worked, thanks! Was easier than expected :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yrashk opened pull request #31028: skypeforlinux: 5.4.0.1 -> 5.5.0.1 (master...skypeforlinux-5.5.0.1) https://git.io/vFm3n
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] mimadrid opened pull request #31029: git: 2.14.3 -> 2.15.0 (master...update/git-2.15.0) https://git.io/vFmGt
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<cmcdragonkai> Hey does anybody have a nix-shell with matplotlib working and actually showing images in X?
<cmcdragonkai> Mine looks like this: https://gist.github.com/CMCDragonkai/31d565a6e4944bc58f31e948749711b1 but the matplotlib is just now showing anything
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<numerobis> Hi again, nixos! I think I did something stupid: I changed users.mutableUsers to false before I knew that this would delete existing passwords set imperatively, and I hadn't set the hashedPassword option. Since I also disabled root access via ssh, I can only ssh into my machine as my user but can't sudo or su to gain more priviledges. Is there any way to recover my priviledges? Thank you!
<adisbladis> cmcdragonkai: You might have to set the matplotlib backend
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<caolanm> I'm trying to build a gem using bundlerEnv but it has a native dependency - is there any way to pass this into bundlerEnv?
<adisbladis> cmcdragonkai: matplotlib.use('Qt5Agg') should work
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<gchristensen> numerobis: ouch, can you access a rescue console of some sort?
<caolanm> oh, I might have managed it using gemConfig
<numerobis> nah... Should have read the documentation till the end before messing around haha... But that's all right, at least it'll stick in memory now.
<numerobis> gchristensen: and I have my configuration file under version control, so shouldn't be too hard to reinstall..
<gchristensen> numerobis: it should also not be so dangerous
<numerobis> gchristensen: True, a warning in the documentation would be nice :)
<gchristensen> or refusing to disable mutableusers if root doesn't have a hash and a user with a hash can't become root
<gchristensen> it is a complicated check :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 16e9541 Aaron Bull Schaefer: ansible: 2.4.0.0 -> 2.4.1.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #31004: Revert "fetchzip and friends: Set "name" to "source" by default" (staging...revert-fetch-name) https://git.io/vFq2w
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<cmcdragonkai> adisbladis: I get a type error 'figure' is an unknown keyword argument after running mpl.use('Qt5Agg') and then plt.imshow(img)
<cmcdragonkai> however your suggestion did make it do something different
<cmcdragonkai> before plt.imshow or plt.show just didn't do anything
<cmcdragonkai> very strange, i didn't need to do this before
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<cmcdragonkai> wait... matplotlib on nixpkgs is pyqt5
<cmcdragonkai> wait... matplotlib on nixpkgs is pyqt4
<goibhniu> hi musicmatze and dtz, are you still interested in doing a podcast?
<disasm> cmcdragonkai: correct, feel free to submit a PR if you want to tackling switching it to qt5.
<cmcdragonkai> so it should be mpl.use('PyQt4')
<musicmatze> goibhniu: yes, but I wonder why you ping dtz ...
<goibhniu> I think dtz was also interested
* goibhniu just searched the log
<musicmatze> ah, okay...
<goibhniu> where are you based?
<musicmatze> I'm in south germany
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<cmcdragonkai> disasm: I switched to Qt4Agg, but still nothing shows, with no errors right now
<goibhniu> oh, how come you're not at nixcon? :D
* goibhniu is in Munich
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<musicmatze> goibhniu: I thought hard about coming and finally made the decision that it is better if someone else can go instead of me, because I wouldn't benefit that much from it...
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<musicmatze> also money.
<goibhniu> ah, right
<musicmatze> I would just listen to talks ... and I can do that on youtube as well... so it is better if someone else got a ticket who can actually participate in discussions and not just listen to them :-)
<goibhniu> have you got a mic and all that?
<goibhniu> that's nice of you, pity there wasn't place for more people
<musicmatze> yes, I have a mic (Behringer C1, so nothing special), a ESI Juli@ Soundcard and a Xenyx1002FX for connecting these two. And a working setup so far :-)
<goibhniu> sounds nice!
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<musicmatze> Right now we (my friend and I) have a hard time finding an evening where we two both have time for recording the first session :-)
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<goibhniu> whereabouts are based? gilligan is also in south germany ... it might be handy to meet up since we're all so close, at least to set things up
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<goibhniu> ^are you
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] copumpkin closed pull request #31013: darwin: build applle stuff in parallel (staging...darwin-parallel) https://git.io/vFqSV
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<goibhniu> mumble is nice for recording remotely
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 375cad3 Yurii Rashkovskii: skypeforlinux: 5.4.0.1 -> 5.5.0.1...
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<goibhniu> it would be great to have a few of us, so we can do them regularly, some people in the states would be good too
<goibhniu> we're in #talkingsnowflakes
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<srhb> is -I nixos-config=/some/path the right argument to feed to nixos-rebuild when using a remote --target-host ?
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<srhb> I mean, in order to not just copy my local config.
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7cf6631a43 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nbp opened pull request #31030: Flag my-self as owner of Nixpkgs and NixOS internals (master...add-nbp-codeowner) https://git.io/vFmlq
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<srhb> Where's signing of closures for use with nix-copy-closure documented?
<musicmatze> goibhniu: I'm near Stuttgart.
<goibhniu> cool
<hyper_ch> goibhniu: thx for the live feeds
<musicmatze> We're actually thinking about a programming/software-dev/nerdish podcast, so I'm not sure about how that relates to your ideas. Also we want to do it in german.
<goibhniu> my pleasure, hyper_ch!
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<goibhniu> musicmatze, ah that's fine, we were just talking about doing a podcast where we interview nixers
<musicmatze> ah, okay! :-)
<goibhniu> I guess you won't have so much time, since you'll already be doing your own podcast :D
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<musicmatze> goibhniu: I'd love to contribute, of course... but as you say, I have not that much time (mostly because of my masters thesis rather than anything else)
<musicmatze> If you're near stuttgart we can meet in the shackspace some time for having a Mate or two :-)
<gchristensen> I tried to fix the mutableUsers assertion to account for no user being able to ssh in and it is terribly long and complex.
<hyper_ch> the master thesis won't run away :)
<gchristensen> I think I'll throw it away
<musicmatze> I guess I will be there next weekend again (if I can get someone to do a overnight-session there I will be there the whole weekend, I guess)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1fee6e1 Orivej Desh: luastdlib: 41.2.0 -> 41.2.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5f61366 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #31031 from orivej/luastdlib...
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<goibhniu> super, we'll try to get this up and running anyway, and you can see if you have time then ... would love to visit the shackspace sometime too, cheers!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus closed pull request #31029: git: 2.14.3 -> 2.15.0 (master...update/git-2.15.0) https://git.io/vFmGt
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<ixxie> did somebody ever make a autorebuild tool that watches for file changes and rebuilds - say - a nix-shell?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FPtje opened pull request #31033: clementine: Added gst-libav plugin (master...fix-clementine-m4a) https://git.io/vFm0s
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<kiloreux_> I have compiled a library and created a nix expression for it. And then I put it in LD_PRELOAD but when I try using it i get the following error
<kiloreux_> curl: relocation error: /nix/store/s7dw1yngwiskqa2ac1bkc6m9g7740agg-glibc-2.25/lib/libpthread.so.0: symbol __libc_vfork, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
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<kuznero> Hi All!
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<kuznero> Can somebody please run `sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward` if you are on nixos-17.09?
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<srhb> kuznero: = 0
<ylwghst> srhb: ^^
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra created auto-uid-allocation (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vFmut
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/auto-uid-allocation ad1c827 Eelco Dolstra: Dynamically allocate UIDs...
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<kuznero> That is probably why `docker service create ... -p 15672:15672` does not work on the latest nixos-17.09 and docker-ce 17.09.0
<kuznero> thanks srhb
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<kuznero> Just update related issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/30289
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFmuD
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1b918d1 geistesk: racket: 6.10.1 -> 6.11
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d7bbfa9 Samuel Leathers: Merge pull request #31017 from geistesk/racket-6.11...
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<typeggzero> I activated pulseaudio in my configuration.nix but it's still using alsa. So now the first program started, is the only one playing sound. plz help! my bloodpressure is rising when I have to work without my relaxing music in my noise cancelling headphones.
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<typeggzero> for clarification: I'm aware that alsa is always beeing used, but it is still using ONLY alsa and not alsa with pulseaudio interface
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<typeggzero> It's working perfectly fine on my desktop pc, but on my laptop I can't manage to get pulseaudio working like it should.
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<typeggzero> The problem could be related to me using unstable kernel stuff on my desktop, but I can't use unstable on my laptop bec of nvidia driver problems @laptop :(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] copumpkin opened pull request #1650: Always allow builds to use unix domain sockets in Darwin sandbox (master...darwin-sandbox-unix-socket) https://git.io/vFm2V
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #31034: WIP: mutable user eval test (master...mutable-user-test) https://git.io/vFmaR
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<gchristensen> ^ cc fpletz, anyone else interested in nixos testing
<gchristensen> oh! Profpatsch, definitely Profpatsch!
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<thblt> Hi! I'm trying to use my Yubikeys as U2F tokens on Firefox, but it doesn't seem to see them. I suspect some permissions quirk, since I need to run yubikey-personalization-gui as root to get it to see the keys.
<thblt> (Yet they work perfectly well as PGP smartcards without sudo)
<thblt> Thanks for any ideas :)
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<ikwildrpepper> thblt: did you add the yubi package to the udev packages (see also https://rzetterberg.github.io/yubikey-gpg-nixos.html)
<thblt> ikwildrpepper: Indeed I haven't, thanks! I just checked for options, not packages. Looks like the solution I need :)
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<dtzWill> d'oh still getting zombie processes with gnumake, even with pselect patch? :(
<thblt> So there's an improvement indeed, but still no U2F device visible from Firefox, it seems. I'll keep digging.
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/6698e68aee (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<dtzWill> mostly mention it here because I was celebrating with a few of you yesterday about it
<srhb> Are the imports in configuration.nix recursively merged?
<dtzWill> don't have time to investigate, maybe unrelated, but first stalled build in a long time and it's a zombie 'mkdir' process lol >.<
<dtzWill> srhb: something like that, yes
<srhb> Nifty.
<thblt> Works from Chromium, though.
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<dtzWill> make's git history post-release is rife with commits likely related/fixing things, so maybe there's hope yet
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<patrl> hey all. I was wondering if anyone has successfully gotten the wee-slack plugin working with weechat in NixOS.
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<patrl> I can't get weechat to import the websocket python module
<Profpatsch> __Sander__: 4686bc54
<patrl> I tried the following override in my configuration.nix, but that didn't seem to work: https://gist.github.com/patrl/57ed64bbc36cc280a7a0b9a917282036
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] cko opened pull request #31035: maven: 3.5.0 -> 3.5.2 (master...maven_3_5_2) https://git.io/vFmre
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus closed pull request #31035: maven: 3.5.0 -> 3.5.2 (master...maven_3_5_2) https://git.io/vFmre
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<srhb> Am I understanding that nix-env --profile ...system --set /nix/store/somepath doesn't actually _activate_ the configuration, right? It only sets the symlink?
<gchristensen> right
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<srhb> So to reproduce something like what nixos-rebuild switch does I'd set the profile (to the path of the system closure), then run /run/current-system/bin/switch-to-configuration switch
<srhb> ... and actually, that's probably all.
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<TimS> Hello!
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<TimS> Does anyone know how difficult it is to convert from using a regular package manager to NIX for an important project?
<adisbladis> TimS: 5. Maybe even 6.
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<TimS> Should I get an IRC client?
<TimS> I've got a mac.
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<adisbladis> Seriously though. I find it easier than traditional package management for important projects since you can track your dependencies as a part of your code.
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<srhb> TimS: If you're learning Nix at the same time, it's maybe a solid 8, really... :-)
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<srhb> I was floundering a lot in the beginning.
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<TimS> I heard from a company last night that they don't truly have deterministic builds since there's like some config file that isn't forced to be the same for builds of the same hash
<TimS> I don't think that sounds very good. Shouldn't it be deterministic?
<TimS> There should be a separation, like in Haskell. It's purely functional part is 100% pure because it is properly separated from the I/O part.
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<srhb> TimS: Hilariously, Haskell builds have been notoriously hard to make reproducible, which hurt nix a lot for a while :P
<srhb> TimS: But we're not that dependent on exact binary output reproducibility currently.
<TimS> Is that because there is some non determinism from multi threads?
<TimS> Interesting. It seems like I don't really understand nix fundamentally yet.
<srhb> TimS: I honestly don't know what causes the nondeterminism most often. The Debian people have been working a lot on this.
<srhb> TimS: I imagine that order is one thing, yes.
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<thoughtpolice> It's better to think of it as "Nix always ensures you can reproduce the same steps, every time, to install some software". It does not guarantee "steps to install software" will be bit-for-bit reproducible. So nix ensures that if you run './configure; make; make install' -- you do that the exact same way, every time. But perhaps 'make' does something fiddly, like embed timestamps in source code.
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<thoughtpolice> These are two separate problems but they're interrelated. Nix handles the first problem by design; but fixing the second problem really just requires "patching lots of upstream software to handle this". Debian people have worked a lot on the second problem, so Nix benefits from it too, of course.
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<tgunb> has anyone else a 404 when installing skype?
<thoughtpolice> Ideally at some point Nix will be both "Deterministic" and "Reproducible", i.e. it will always take the exact same steps to build any results you ask for, and it will always produce results that are deterministic in a binary sense (i.e. they always match bit-for-bit in any environment).
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<TimS_> Hi
<TimS_> I’m using “Mutter” for iOS.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ahstro opened pull request #31036: elm-oracle: init at 1.1.1 (master...add/elm-oracle) https://git.io/vFm1W
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<TimS_> Github bot?
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<TimS> Hi. I am also TimS_ using Mutter and freenode in browser here.
<TimS_> I am also TimS
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFmML
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 12da0b5 Peter Hoeg: mht2htm: init at 1.8.1.35
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3690563 Peter Hoeg: Merge pull request #31020 from peterhoeg/p/mht...
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<TimS> Wow when I lock my phone it disconnects
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<TimS> Where can I learn from a nix person? Or do I need to pay someone to give me a true tutorial to make sure that I understand it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus opened pull request #31037: [WIP] virtualbox: 5.1.26 -> 5.2.0 (master...virtualbox_5_2_0) https://git.io/vFmDv
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<infinisil> TimS: You can ask stuff here and you'll probably get an answer. You could also use the mailing list for longer stuff or as an alternative
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<TimS> If I were to just pick a random project on GitHub that I expect my computer to be able to install dependencies for and run just fine, how much work would it then be to convert the project to use nix?
<infinisil> TimS: With most projects it's just a simple nix file
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<TimS> Ok because someone just recently said it might be an 8 on the difficulty scale and now you
<TimS> you're making it sound easy
<infinisil> Well, it's easy once you get the hang of it
<infinisil> The nixpkgs manual has lots of info: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/
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<infinisil> and the nixpkgs repo has lots of examples of packages applications
<infinisil> s/packages/packaged
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<TimS> So I wouldn't have to change any source code but rather just the top level configuration file and it would sorta work itself down?
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<infinisil> All packages in nixpkgs just use the source of the program, it doesn't require special nix support. If you want to use nix for your packages, you just put the nix file to the sources repository directly
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<infinisil> For example here is the nix file for the hello package: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/misc/hello/default.nix
<adisbladis> TimS: I was kidding, just throwing out some random values :)
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a31cc11ca7 (from 15 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #31038: autofs: do not strip needed symbols (master...autofs) https://git.io/vFmQz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] LnL7 opened pull request #1651: Optionally allow getpwuid in the darwin sandbox (master...darwin-sandbox-getpwuid) https://git.io/vFm76
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #31039: graphite: fix the graphiteApi service (master...fix-graphite-api) https://git.io/vFm5I
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<_rvl> __Sander__: thanks ... will try some builds this evening
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Zimmi48 opened pull request #31040: languagetool: add command for HTTP server (master...languagetool) https://git.io/vFmbU
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master cd532a9 Eelco Dolstra: Fix filterSource
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<srhb> TimS: I'm sorry if you thought I was being serious with that eight. I was merely conveying personal experience. To me, the first project was quite hard. It was worth every bit though. And I never paid a penny to learn anything. There's great docs out there, and the community is extremely helpful.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFmNs
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 12c8a44 Michael Weiss: pythonPackages.multidict: Fix the build and tests...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthiasbeyer opened pull request #31041: Update a few packages (master...update-my-packages) https://git.io/vFmpt
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFmph
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8e93531 Michael Weiss: pythonPackages.raven: 6.2.1 -> 6.3.0
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<Phillemann> There's a patch inside a "patches" tar archive I'd like to include in my derivation. Can I just "fetchurl" it and access it via "(fetchurl ...)/patches/foo.patch"?
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<ylwghst> Phillemann: you can but shoul'd rather use fetchpatch
<ylwghst> wait
<ylwghst> if its supplied with package then you don't need to fetch it
<ylwghst> only specify like this
<ylwghst> patches = [ ./patches/foo.patch ];
<Phillemann> No, it's a _separate_ archive, unfortunately.
<ylwghst> Phillemann: where?
<Phillemann> And I'd still just write something clever inside "patches = [ ... ];" than run some unpack command myself.
<ylwghst> try fetch it
<ylwghst> from url
<ylwghst> with fetchpatch
<ylwghst> if it will not work then
<Phillemann> I think the problem is, I don't have a URL to the patch, but only to the archive containing the patches.
<ylwghst> Phillemann: then extract it and package it into /myapp/patches
<ylwghst> oh wait
<ylwghst> you mean in configuration.nix ?
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<Phillemann> ylwghst: I could do that, yeah. That's the simplest.
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<Phillemann> I just thought I didn't have to, because the patch is downloadable from somewhere else.
<ylwghst> Phillemann: sure it's better to fetch it
<ylwghst> Phillemann: or gist the patch
<ylwghst> into your gist
<ylwghst> and then fetch
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<ylwghst> with fetchpatch
<Phillemann> Ah, clever. :D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #31042: wp-cli: 1.3.0 -> 1.4.0 (master...update-wp-cli) https://git.io/vFYvO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYvr
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8e91f4e Michael Weiss: lf: 2017-09-06 -> 2017-10-30
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<tilpner> Phillemann - But (fetchTarball ...)/foo.patch should have worked too
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<srhb> I don't understand the repercussions of the deprecation of openssl-based signing. Does anyone have an example of a nix-copy-closure workflow in 1.12 (which I assume is the new way?)
<srhb> Er, I should say "implications" rather than "repercussions"
<tilpner> Phillemann - * ${fetchTarball ...)/foo.patch
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<ylwghst> tilpner: i need to build this with i3Support = true;
<Tehnix> Heyya! Anyone else having problems building Arcanist on macOS High Sierra? Quite new to nix, so not sure how to proceed. I get this output (error in the bottom) <https://gist.github.com/Tehnix/11b40d7169e3a8ddeab4b30b1938da0d>
<hyper_ch> still no <3 for nixos unstable small channel :(
<tilpner> ylwghst - Is that an answer or a question?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ahstro closed pull request #31036: elm-oracle: init at 1.1.1 (master...add/elm-oracle) https://git.io/vFm1W
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<srhb> hyper_ch: cherry-pick for great justice.
<srhb> hyper_ch: (But as you might have seen, it's quite broken currently.)
<hyper_ch> srhb: with all those commits for the last 4 days.... no <3 for unstable small :)
<ylwghst> tilpner: half of of question
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<hyper_ch> I see tons of things don't build but no idea why
<hyper_ch> I wonder who broke it...
<srhb> hyper_ch: Lots of hacking :)
* hyper_ch eyes tilpner
* tilpner pleads not guilty
<ylwghst> tilpner: hm it is
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<tilpner> Huh, neat. I can get rid of my own polybar package now!
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<srhb> Tehnix: The C++11 error?
<hyper_ch> SCO just doesn't want to die... hmmmm
<hyper_ch> as quickly as tilpner pleaded not guilty there's definitively something fishy there ;)
<tilpner> ylwghst - overrideAttrs shouldn't work there. Try super.polybar.override { i3Support = true; }
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<hyper_ch> tilpner: btw, still love your write to file custom expression... it's really useful
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<pie_> (hi peeps, whats the way to use nix-env -E ? specifically for: nixpkgs.idrisPackages.with-packages [ nixpkgs.idrisPackages.builtins ] )
<Phillemann> Next problem: is there a way to permanently enable full composition pipeline with the proprietary nvidia driver?
<tilpner> :)
<ylwghst> tilpner: maybe its working
<ylwghst> there was odule support:
<ylwghst> -- alsa
<ylwghst> -- curl
<ylwghst> -- i3
<ylwghst> while build
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<srhb> pie_: Why -E ?
<ylwghst> but i still cant get my workspaces in polybar
<pie_> srhb, whats the alternative? (other than properly doing it in a file :P)
<LnL> Tehnix: yeah, php broke recently
<pie_> pff php is always broken ;PP
<tilpner> ylwghst - Try with override, like I said
<srhb> pie_: What are you actually trying to do?
<pie_> srhb, i want to install that package
<tilpner> ylwghst - And run polybar -v, what features does it list?
<pie_> it installs idris and its basic packages
<ylwghst> Features: +alsa -curl -i3 -mpd +network
<tilpner> ylwghst - You want +i3
<ylwghst> -i3 means no i3
<ylwghst> yeah
<srhb> pie_: I'm honestly unsure what the argument is, but.. Perhaps you can figure the rest out.
<ylwghst> tilpner: yea it has green coulour in build modules list
<ylwghst> with override
<tilpner> Good
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] roberth opened pull request #1652: nix repl: Provide documentation from comment when evaluating to lambda (master...lambda-docstring) https://git.io/vFYJs
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<srhb> pie_: This is Probably Wrong: nix-env -iE 'wat: with (import <nixpkgs> {}); idrisPackages.with-packages [ idrisPackages.builtins ]'
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<srhb> pie_: now you just have to figure out what "wat" is :P
<pie_> " Interpret the command line arguments as a list of Nix expressions to be parsed and evaluated, rather than as a list of file names of Nix expressions. (nix-instantiate, nix-build and nix-shell only.)
<pie_> "
<pie_> oh oops...
<pie_> that doesnt have -E
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<pie_> i dont know why thats listed in the nix-env docs then >_>
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<pie_> huh ok misleading docs
<pie_> that actually seems to work without doing anything
<srhb> Right, but what is wat. >_>
<t184256> sorry, quick question. is there a way to revert a single commit in systemd, install a patched one and NOT rebuild the whole system from source?
<pie_> srhb, good questoin
<pie_> srhb, does nix have some kind of print expression?
<srhb> pie_: I don't know, nor if that would be useful here..
<srhb> Oh, you want wat: print wat
<srhb> hmm
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<pie_> im guessing that doesnt even make sense in the way nix works :P
<mpickering> srhb: Why do you need to pass a function to nix-env -iE?
<magnetophon> Anybody know why I can login to web.skype.com with firefox-esr, but I can't make a call, whereas both chromium and qutebrowser give a DNS error when I try to login
<pie_> ok so i actually want to use <unstable> but that doesnt work (maybe it needs it from wat?)
<srhb> mpickering: I don't know!
<pie_> mpickering, because thats what it takes apparently
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<pie_> hm might have been an env thing
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<srhb> mpickering: I'm basically cargo culting for great justice :P
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<mpickering> I can't find anything which would explain what -iE does in the man page
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<mpickering> ah right it's under OPERATION --INSTALL
<pie_> well apparently <> is unaffected by my env in -E >_>
<ylwghst> now with +3 but workspaces are still not showing
<pie_> error: file ‘unstable’ was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I), at (string):1:19
<ylwghst> tilpner: :(
<jluttine> how do i install kodi with plugins?
<pie_> also i get an unrelated warning that i forgot to fix a while ago: warning: name collision in input Nix expressions, skipping ‘/home/paprika/.nix-defexpr/channels_root/nixos’
<pie_> any idea about that
<jluttine> i tried adding kodi and kodiPlugins.pvr-hts to installed packages..
<tilpner> ylwghst - Paste polybar config
<jluttine> but the plugin isn't found
<ylwghst> tilpner: heh
<ylwghst> ive got it
<ylwghst> now
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #31043: wordpress: 4.7.4 -> 4.8.3 (master...wordpress-4.8.3) https://git.io/vFYkf
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<bencoman> srhb: Thanks for your help last week when my nix-prefetch-url was returning a different hash each time. I saw you checked in on me when you got to work, but my kids had dragged me away and then i was away working 12 hours days and hadn't a chance to get back to it. As you suggested, I've now got it working with fetchgit instead.
<ylwghst> tilpner: but with -1 -1 -1 -1 labels for all workspaces
<pie_> argh nevermind i misunderstood the format
<srhb> bencoman: Glad to hear it! :)
<pie_> ok looks like it should be workin
<pie_> my disk is about to fill again >_> xD
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<srhb> pie_: nix 1.12 brings automatic garbage collection on low disk space!
* srhb is stoked
<pie_> srhb, uh what could possibly go wrong :P
<srhb> Hehehe.
<pie_> well i guess if you dont do everything like you should like making roots and stuff youre gonna have to install a lot of things agian lol
* pie_ is a trash nixos user
<srhb> pie_: I'm a (mostly) good Nix user. At least in that regard. :P
<pie_> :PP
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<srhb> pie_: Of course that means I have a ~/gcroots/ dir that just has a lot of weird stuff I've no idea what is.
<srhb> pie_: Periodically I just nuke it from orbit.
<pie_> haha
* srhb needs a build farm
<hyper_ch> what differentiates good Nix users from bad Nix users? and are Nixos users also somewhere in those two groups?
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<srhb> hyper_ch: I didn't actually mean that the other case was bad in any way :)
<srhb> (Heck, it's one of the main attractions of Nix)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #31044: apache-httpd: fix nix evaluation error (master...fix-apache-httpd) https://git.io/vFYI7
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<tilpner> Is there a better to tell what is being built and why than looking at the rapidly scrolling wall of build output and guessing?
<pie_> oh god i hope im not building all of haskell heh
<tilpner> *better way
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<pie_> im porbably building all of haskell
<pie_> woo unstable
<tilpner> Do you mean "just" ghc?
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<bencoman> samueldr: Thanks also for your time trying to solve my momentary screen freezing. In the end, disabling the compositor didn't work, but then some KDE Plasma 5 complaints for other distros lead me to disable the file indexing `balooctl disable` and that "seems" to have fixed it.
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<pie_> tilpner, bleh, yeah thats what i meant xD
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYLa
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6df9c74 Michael Weiss: pythonPackages: Move my libraries to python-modules
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<tilpner> pie_ - Think of it positively, that's a lot better than also building all of haskellPackages :D
<pie_> x'''D
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<srhb> pie_: It fails. :(
<pie_> srhb, ? D:
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<srhb> pie_: Or well, at least on nixos-unstable
<bencoman> I'm trying to learn how to make new builds by manually building existing packages. So I've done `git clone https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs` then `cd nixpkgs/pkgs/applications/networking/browsers/chromium` then `nix-shell` and get the error "error: cannot auto-call a function that has an argument without a default value (‘newScope’)"
<srhb> bencoman: Go to the top level of the nixpkgs checkout
<pie_> srhb, im guessing thats why i need ot build it myself
<srhb> bencoman: Then, nix-shell -A chromium
<pie_> and then its gonna fail, so its actually pointless right
<srhb> pie_: Yeah.
<srhb> pie_: Looks like that lens version goes awry.
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<pie_> um...?works for me?
<bencoman> srhb: thx. its now downloading a heap of files. probably going to take a while.
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<mekeor> what would you do if the usb-dongle you chose to install nixos was so small sized that nixos-install fails because there's no space left (in /nix, i think)?
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<srhb> bencoman: chromium is not a small build.
<srhb> bencoman: If you're just aiming to learn, it's a... heavy choice :)
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<srhb> pie_: I see. I ran out of memory. Fun.
<srhb> bencoman: I'd go for something much lighter. :)
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<ArdaXi[m]> mekeor: If you've got enough memory I'd boot the copytoram option
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<bencoman> srhb: my goal is to build PDFium into a library, which is part of Chromium. It standard build is with Ninja and GN and uses gclient from depot_tools to download sources, which I'm not sure fits nixos, so I was hoping the Chromium build would give me some isnight.
<bencoman> but you are right, its nix files are bit overwhelming right now.
<ArdaXi[m]> Does the livecd actually mount the installation medium read-write?
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<srhb> bencoman: That's a noble goal, but yeah, perhaps a bit big to start out with :)
<pie_> srhb, i ran out of disk
<pie_> ....
<pie_> fun
<bencoman> So I tried something simpler `nix-shell -A banner` and then immediately `unpackPhase` which drops the sources into the root nixpkgs directory. Should I have changed to pkgs/games/banner folder first before doing unpackPhase? What is best practice?
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<Tehnix> Anyone else having problems building Arcanist on macOS High Sierra? Quite new to nix, so not sure how to proceed. I get this output (error in the bottom) <https://gist.github.com/Tehnix/11b40d7169e3a8ddeab4b30b1938da0d> - Any help would be appreciated!
<ArdaXi[m]> Though personally I only use nix-shell when I'm trying to debug why my build goes wrong, the easiest way to test a build is `nix-build -A`
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<srhb> Tehnix: Is it the C++11 error?
<srhb> Tehnix: This looks similar: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/30564/files
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<bencoman> thx ArdaXi. Working through it now.
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<jluttine> all-packages.nix takes an input `config`. how can i set stuff to this in my configuration.nix? i'd need to set kodi.enablePVRHTS=true
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<srhb> jluttine: nixpkgs.config
<srhb> jluttine: So, for instance, nixpkgs.config = { kode.enablePVRHTS = true; };
<srhb> kodi*
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<jluttine> srhb: thanks! is that a typical way to pass configuration to packages?
<srhb> jluttine: It's either that or via overrides/overlays
<srhb> jluttine: I think the latter is generally preferred.
<jluttine> srhb: ok. this nixpkgs.config is quite nice
<srhb> config-style is very opaque.
<ArdaXi[m]> I'm not entirely sure what that is going to do
<srhb> bencoman: It doesn't (shouldn't) matter where you unpack the sources.
<srhb> bencoman: In general, it's expected that you cd there before the next step though. I don't remember which step usually does that.
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<ArdaXi[m]> Where are you getting this "enablePVRHTS" from?
<srhb> bencoman: So you could have been in some tmp directory, and then: nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A banner
<srhb> ArdaXi[m]: top-level/all-packages.nix
<srhb> ArdaXi[m]: In the wrapKodi definition
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<ArdaXi[m]> Ah, right, GitHub doesn't index all-packages
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<srhb> *shakes fist*
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #31041: Update a few packages (master...update-my-packages) https://git.io/vFmpt
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<kai_w> I can't get gpg to import keys (`gpg --import key_file`): Error sending to agent: Required environment variable not set
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<kai_w> Also 'error building skey array: Required environment variable not set'
<kai_w> I've added gnupg to system packages and enabled the agent, anything else I need to do?
<kai_w> It worked on the live-usb iirc
<ldlework> clever, after realizing that I was not configuring the NixOps expression to deploy to Digital Ocean correctly as I was not setting up the ssh key correctly I now get a very strange issue
<ldlework> building path(s) ‘/nix/store/qklzh098f0qkkak8c7dx6qc080nhqfgz-activation-script’
<ldlework> error: setting uid: Operation not permitted
<ldlework> error: cannot kill processes for uid ‘30001’: failed with exit code 1
<ldlework> My entire /nix store is owned by me, and the nix-daemon process is not running
<ldlework> I have unset NIX_REMOTE
<ldlework> but now I cannot build with home-manager, etc
<ldlework> not really sure what to do now...
<ldlework> I guess reinstall nix
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<ldlework> I really wish that the Nix installer script had an option for doing single user install
<vibes> Any resources for someone who's brand new to nix?
<ldlework> Because everytime I try to "convert" to a single-user install, something or another breaks.
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<ldlework> vibes I recommend the three manuals
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<ldlework> I'm a dummy and I found them pretty good at their job.
<vibes> would they be helpful for someone who's a novice with linux?
<ldlework> Well certainly learning Nix and Linux at the same time is a going to compound your troubles.
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<ldlework> But I don't think there are specialized Nix learning resources for people are also new to Linux
<ldlework> vibes what do you want to use Nix for?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #31048: Fix some but not all errors in owncloud (master...fix-owncloud) https://git.io/vFYZ8
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<srhb> Wait what.
<srhb> command-not-found suddenly works without channels?
<srhb> _how_
<pie_> srhb, help :P ln: failed to create symbolic link '/nix/store/lmx793j75f4g9xsqci2876q2ib8klkl7-idris-1.1.1/lib/idris-1.1.1/00base-idx.ibc': File exists
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<pie_> ( mpickering ? ^ )
<srhb> pie_: I feel like I fixed that a while back.. >>
<vibes> Yeah i figured. I know the basics, bash, filesystem, some commands, etc. I'm a developer but mainly used osx all of my dev life. I'm super attracted to nixos for deployment of servers and isolated development environments. I came across https://github.com/grafted-in/wordpress-nginx-nix which would definitely come in handy. I find it super interesting everything is written in a programming language
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<pie_> im getting the feeling with builtins is redundant...
<srhb> vibes: The nix pills are a great intro, too.
<ldlework> vibes oh, OSX is Unix-y. I think you'll be fine :)
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<ldlework> Does anyone know what my problem is? error: cannot kill processes for uid ‘30001’: failed with exit code 1
<ldlework> When using nix-build
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<vibes> The fact it's unix-y always gives me imposter syndrome when it comes to touching the cli on my linux servers haha.
<srhb> vibes: Don't worry about it, 99% of the time being an imposter is 99% good enough ;-)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vFYnz
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 0dbd1b8 Yurii Rashkovskii: skypeforlinux: 5.4.0.1 -> 5.5.0.1...
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<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: do you know any on-call scheduling tools that are open source?
<gchristensen> cc: everyoneelse
<hyper_ch> on-call?
<mekeor> why do i get an error saying there's no disk space left, when i try to run nixos-install (from minimal live-cd) using a 30GB usb-dongle? could it be because `dd if=nixos.iso of=/dev/sdx` creates only a small partition for the image?
<hyper_ch> what do you mean by on-call scheduling tool?
<hyper_ch> mekeor: df -h
<mekeor> hyper_ch: the system is shut down atm
<srhb> mekeor: Turn it back on and tell us about what mount says. :)
<hyper_ch> gchristensen: you mean somethign like incron?
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<Isorkin> How to compile kernel with custom config?
<gchristensen> hyper_ch: something like pagerduty
<hyper_ch> gchristensen: no idea what that is
<gchristensen> I looked at thos e:(
<srhb> pie_: I think builtins specifically messes up because that file already exists
<c0bw3b> never used any of them / not sure if openduty is maintained
<c0bw3b> but Cabot could be nice
<hyper_ch> gchristensen: not really sure what you mean by on-call scheduling tools
<c0bw3b> it's for the future handling of security issues right?
<ldlework> guess I'm reinstalling nix again
<gchristensen> yeah, c0bw3b
<ArdaXi[m]> mekeor: How much RAM does the machine have?
<srhb> pie: If I use prelude, that error does not occur. However, I still can't get it to work with nix-env -E, though it works with nix-shell -p
<srhb> pie: So I guess we're doing something wrong there. :)
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: no, I have never been in a situation to use anything like that. From the web site, I cannot even understand what PagerDuty _does_
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<gchristensen> lol
<srhb> pie: This works, for instance, but the corresponding nix-env -iE 'wat: ...' does not: nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; pkgs.idrisPackages.with-packages [ pkgs.idrisPackages.prelude ]'
<hyper_ch> MichaelRaskin: finally I don't feel alone anymore :)
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<MichaelRaskin> hyper_ch: well, in any situation where the notion of on-call would apply, there was nobody qualified to do rotation with…
<ldlework> gchristensen nice talk btw
<gchristensen> MichaelRaskin: it wakes you up when things break, by calling you, texting you, calling you again, texting you again, sending you emails, etc
<srhb> pie: Oh, it does. nixUnstable was getting in the way. Weird.
<gchristensen> ldlework: thanks! thhe security one or tumblr one?
<ldlework> I've only seen the security one so far
<hyper_ch> so basically it's a harrassment tool?
<gchristensen> ah cool, thank you! :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #31050: apache-httpd/wordpress: disable built-in WordPress autoupdater (master...wordpress-disable-autoupdates) https://git.io/vFYCM
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<gchristensen> hyper_ch: yes
<hyper_ch> :)
<gchristensen> nobody _wants_ to use pagerduty
* ldlework remembers wardialing his friends with a 14.4k modem
<mekeor> ArdaXi[m]: i don't remember. not much though.
<srhb> gchristensen: Is this initiative something beginners can help out with? Not sure how much is time zone and how much is skill set. :)
<gchristensen> srhb: you bet!
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: and I guess it needs a ton of integration with call gateways, which makes it lack a free tier
<gchristensen> yeah
<ArdaXi[m]> mekeor: The livecd won't _write_ to itself, considering it has to consider the possibility that it's a non-rewritable medium and generally speaking you don't want to mess up your boot disk
<ArdaXi[m]> So it builds onto a tmpfs instead, which is held in memory
<srhb> gchristensen: Cool, thank you :)
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<srhb> gchristensen: Sign me up. :p
<MichaelRaskin> I think you should start with a realistic response target, then find out longitude distribution of available help. Then see that the problem pagerduty solves is not what you need.
<gchristensen> srhb: yougot it!
<mekeor> hyper_ch, shrb: http://sprunge.us/MKgJ <- output of "lsblk", "mount" and "df -h"
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<mekeor> ArdaXi[m]: same for minimal installation CD?
<c0bw3b> gchristensen: also https://github.com/meirwah/awesome-incident-response#incident-management might give good pointers?
<gchristensen> nice!
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<mekeor> ArdaXi[m]: so how can i install nixos?
<ArdaXi[m]> mekeor: This goes for every installation CD, yes
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<ArdaXi[m]> Good question… either install less or mount something over /nix
<ArdaXi[m]> Actually, it builds just Nix there, so… you'll really need to mount something over it
<hyper_ch> just do a minimal installation, boot into that and install the rest...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFYWy
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 60321cb Peter Simons: LTS Haskell 9.11
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2177c9f Peter Simons: hackage2nix: disable failing builds
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 48adf76 Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...
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<CrazedProgrammer> mekeor: you can make a minimal installation with only the partitions and networking, nixos-install that, reboot then build the full installation from disk
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<ArdaXi[m]> hyper_ch: Doesn't the installer mount the real /nix before installing everything it doesn't need to do that?
<hyper_ch> mekeor: on my custom ISO I use this for minimal installation https://github.com/sjau/nix-expressions/blob/master/customIsoFiles/min_conf.nix
<CrazedProgrammer> because nixos-install writes to /nix/store which is on the unionfs, you need enough ram to build your installation
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<hyper_ch> could remove kate though since I removed kde desktop on custom ISO
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<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: I think you comment to the RFC issue would be more usefulk if you included the desired feature list
<ArdaXi[m]> CrazedProgrammer: I _thought_ the installer would build Nix, copy over the nix-store and then continue
<mekeor> well, i don't have a big configuration.nix, but i'll try to shrink it even more by removing X+xmonad
<mekeor> should i run more than "nix-collect-garbage -d" before trying `nixos-install` again?
<CrazedProgrammer> ArdaXi[m] yes, it builds then copies over
* mekeor isn't optimistic that this will work
<ArdaXi[m]> I mean "build Nix" very literally
<ArdaXi[m]> Not "build the entire configuration"
<CrazedProgrammer> oh, sorry
<CrazedProgrammer> i meant the entire configuration
<ArdaXi[m]> Then the easiest thing would probably be to do that step manually, copy over /nix and mount it so you can do the install
<CrazedProgrammer> i ran into this issue when installing a 9gb configuration on a 8gb ram laptop
<srhb> I don't understand why the configuration even goes on /nix/store rather than /mnt/nix/store
<mpickering> pie_: that is what ny patch fixed
<srhb> I suppose we can more easily work around this with nix 1.12 and custom store paths.
<mpickering> *my
<CrazedProgrammer> ArdaXi[m] like hyper_ch said, make a minimal installation, boot into that and then build your full configuration
<bencoman> I'm looking at "btanks" as a simpler build example... https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/games/btanks/default.nix
<bencoman> done `nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A btanks` then `unpackPhase && cd btanks` works okay, but `buildPhase` says "no Makefile, doing nothing"
<srhb> bencoman: So there are more phases than that.
<MichaelRaskin> srhb: no
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<bencoman> but I see the default.nix has entry buildPhase=''....''
<MichaelRaskin> the problem is that in this case «$buildPhase» is needed
<srhb> MichaelRaskin: I wasn't actually finished, but go ahead :-)
<MichaelRaskin> There is buildPhase shell function, and there is buildPhase variable and there are rules on picking what to run
<bencoman> it has.... buildPhase = '' scons prefix=$out '';
<MichaelRaskin> Which sets a variable
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<bencoman> I have a knowledge gap here. I guessed/hoped that it setting that variable meant I could do `buildPhase` from command line
<MichaelRaskin> srhb: sorry for interrupting then. But btanks doesn't have configure so running configurePhase wouldn't help
<MichaelRaskin> I would try $buildPhase
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<srhb> MichaelRaskin: I was going to explain the whole thing, not just suggest to run configurePhase, but don't worry about it. :)
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<srhb> You know it better than me anyway.
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<bencoman> ahHa! that worked. thx Michael.
<MichaelRaskin> srhb: well, here the extra phases are not as relevant as the multiple specification of the same buildPhase
<srhb> Indeed.
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<mekeor> removing xserver-service helped. i get another error now. i'll ask next time. see you :)
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<c0bw3b> gchristensen: made in France! :p irrelevant i know... but still
<gchristensen> :)
<c0bw3b> also stumbled upon https://thehive-project.org/ not mentioned before
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<pie_> mpickering, well, i got this from latest unstable so *clueless*
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<kai_w> hmm, over ssh gpg --import only seems to work with --pinentry-mode=loopback, can anybody confirm?
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* tilpner has created something terrible: https://gist.github.com/6c30125069b62ea67622b820f6af2149
<musicmatze> Hi, I'm having an issue with npm2nix (first time I use it) ... can someone help me?
<gchristensen> oh my, tilpner
<musicmatze> it tells me, when calling on a package.json (I assume I have to do this) that "is not a valid repository name"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] andir opened pull request #31051: websocket++: 0.4.0 -> 0.7.0 (master...websocket++-0.7.0) https://git.io/vFYRg
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<ArdaXi[m]> I'm not sure whether to be impressed or horrified
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<ArdaXi[m]> Out of curiosity, why?
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<tilpner> ArdaXi[m] - Definitely horrified. It fixes those "oh no, the steam chroot doesn't have tools available that I put into systemPackages" moments
<bencoman> I see at [1] that adom game has $buildCommand variable, which actually does `unpackPhase`. So how does the build system know to evaluate that variable?
<bencoman> Within nix-shell, is there something like/more-than `set -x` and then issue command to "build whole package just like it normally would" and I can trace through what is normally done, rather than guessing at the order to manually run commands?
<ArdaXi[m]> bencoman: the `. $stdenv/setup` provides that function
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<bencoman> I'm having a look at it
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<c0bw3b> pkg name : "python2.7-html5lib-0.999999999" .... wth happened there
<musicmatze> Hi, I'm having an issue with npm2nix (first time I use it) ... can someone help me?
<musicmatze> it tells me, when calling on a package.json (I assume I have to do this) that "is not a valid repository name"
<ArdaXi[m]> bencoman: The default builder runs `genericBuild` which might be what you're looking for
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] matthiasbeyer opened pull request #31052: patchwork: init at 3.8.0 (master...add-patchwork) https://git.io/vFYEi
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sifmelcara opened pull request #31053: nixos/ssh: fix example (master...fix/ssh-example) https://git.io/vFYEH
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<bencoman> thx ArdaXi[m]. Good reading for tomorrow. Got to hit the hay now (3am).
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<disasm> musicmatze: use node2nix. npm2nix updated their github readme with DISCLAIMER: This project is no longer maintained. Instead use node2nix
<CrazedProgrammer> c0bw3b: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/html5lib
<musicmatze> disasm: ah,... okay... I'll give it a try
<c0bw3b> CrazedProgrammer: i guess they were _almost_ sure the project was ready for v1.0... but not quite :p
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<CrazedProgrammer> c0bw3b: the weird thing is, it went from 1.0b3 to 0.99, 0.999... :)
<c0bw3b> exactly! then again 6 betas.. oh my
<c0bw3b> even iOS doesn't do so many betas :p
<c0bw3b> is there a kind nixpkgs core contributor that would want to remove the "wip" label from PR 30846 ? i consider it ready to merge
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<musicmatze> disasm: hmh... okay... now I have a node-env.nix, a node-packages.nix and a default.nix ? Must I simply copy these files into nixpkgs?
<disasm> musicmatze: what are you trying to accomplish?
<musicmatze> package patchwork
<disasm> ah, ok, one sec
<musicmatze> I've called node2nix on the package.json from the 3.8.0 tag of the project...
<MichaelRaskin> c0bw3b: in general, it might be a good idea to put [WIP] in the beginning of the PR title.
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<disasm> musicmatze: oh... edit node-packages-v4.json and node-packages-v6.json then run generate.sh in ~/pkgs/development/node-packages
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<musicmatze> disasm: This sounds more hacky than it should do :-)
<musicmatze> am running the script right now
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<c0bw3b> MichaelRaskin: yes i did exactly that when it was WIP but it's not anymore so i changed the title back.. the only thing remaining is the GH label
<MichaelRaskin> Well, not anymore
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<c0bw3b> MichaelRaskin: indeed just saw! thank you
<MichaelRaskin> I wonder if an anti-WIP tag ([DONE]?) could be a good idea
<musicmatze> disasm: okay, script ran ... now what?
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<musicmatze> -.-' It looks like it packaged "`patchwork` is a DSL for assembling graphs." ...
<musicmatze> so not what I wanted...
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<c0bw3b> gchristensen: it's overspecific at this stage of the rfc but mobile alerts doesn't have to be SMS --> think push notifications, directly or through a Slack/Mattermost channel
<c0bw3b> to workaround the cost of sms alert services
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<c0bw3b> MichaelRaskin: not a good idea from my PoV since all PR are supposed to be done and tested in the first place... like before being opened
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<MichaelRaskin> Erm, no. You are supposed to be direct and honest, that's all. It is OK to push a WIP PR where something non-trivial has been done, and there are questions that only make sense in the context.
<MichaelRaskin> Of course, in that case it should be marked [WIP] etc.
<acowley> There are several darwin builds that are marked as Aborted on Hydra (e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/build/62906090). What's up with that?
<acowley> Here's one with a different error: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/62890615
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<c0bw3b> Yes i don't mean WIP PR are illegitimate, just that right they are the only one with a tag and it helps to make them stand out of the rest
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<c0bw3b> if anything has a tag then it overcharges titles and doesn't help finding the simple and ready-to-merge PRs
<MichaelRaskin> Well, DONE would be an anti-WIP mark to stress that WIP label is obsolete.
<c0bw3b> ah ok i misunderstood you in the first place then
<c0bw3b> my bad
<MichaelRaskin> I wasn't too clear, to be honest.
<MichaelRaskin> Or maybe all that is moot because Borg will notice your deletion of [WIP] and change the label.
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<c0bw3b> yes! Borg
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<c0bw3b> i like that more :p
<Ralith> when I've built a package with separate debug info, how do I get debuggers to actually be able to see line numbers?
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<Ralith> or any of the debug info at all? :/
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] tokudan opened pull request #31054: Revert "ocamlPackages.csv: 1.5 -> 1.7" (release-17.09...ocamlcsvtools) https://git.io/vFYrQ
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<c0bw3b> is there still a problem with unpacking xz archive during stdenv boostrap? I'm refering to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/030af0a8035ba60f34d5b2020c9c020df769ecdf#diff-99b4e50937b27a0b19319dc7fd1da49c
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edwtjo pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYKf
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6798212 Théo Zimmermann: languagetool: add command for HTTP server
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<c0bw3b> gawk or gnugrep lost the explicit xz.bin nativeBuildInput since that
<c0bw3b> but diffutils didn't, for example
<c0bw3b> so .... *confused*
<Dezgeg> probably it was forgotten
<c0bw3b> you mean we forgot to remove it in diffutils and it's not necessary anymore? or the other way around :p
<c0bw3b> I should ask vcunat though
<MichaelRaskin> Well, given that grep works≤
<MichaelRaskin> I guess you can try building diffutils without that input.
<c0bw3b> I would build fine, but the problem was during bootstrapping stdenv it seems
<c0bw3b> i actually don't know how to reproduce and test that
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<disasm> musicmatze: I think I led you astray. I haven't done much with node, sorry
<musicmatze> :-/
<musicmatze> disasm: I guess I should ping some node guys then... who would you suggest? :-)
* joepie91 pops in
<joepie91> did I hear Node?
<vcunat> c0bw3b: I was under impression that our stdenv now always contains xz, even during bootstrapping
<joepie91> :)
<musicmatze> joepie91: go ahead: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31052
<disasm> musicmatze: oh, you need xorg build input it looks like
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<joepie91> musicmatze: ah, one moment
<c0bw3b> vcunat: ok good to know, thanks :)
<joepie91> musicmatze: which tool are you using for producing the expression?
<musicmatze> disasm: yes, but I don't know how to put it into the build inputs
<musicmatze> joepie91: node2nix
<musicmatze> (or rather ./generate.sh)
<disasm> musicmatze: probably xorg.libX11
<musicmatze> disasm: and _where_?
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<disasm> musicmatze: yeah, since it's an app and not a library, you might want to not put it in the json file
<joepie91> musicmatze: that section explains how to add native dependencies for node2nix-generated things
<disasm> but joepie91 probably knows more than I do here
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<musicmatze> disasm: already done, see the PR.
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<musicmatze> joepie91: its not node2nix generated, see the last patch
<musicmatze> the other two should be thrown away before merging, actually.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] acowley opened pull request #31055: opencv3: fix on darwin (master...opencv3-darwin) https://git.io/vFY6D
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<joepie91> musicmatze: oh hm, is this generated through some sort of nixpkgs abstraction?
* joepie91 has only worked with node2nix directly
<musicmatze> joepie91: the ./generate.sh file in the directory pkgs/development/node-packages/
<musicmatze> (which basically does node2nix ... but automatically)
<disasm> musicmatze: you may need to add variables to that for deps, but I don't think patchwork should go in there and for now you should revert all of node-packages
<musicmatze> jup I guess the first approach would be better
<joepie91> musicmatze: hrm, I have no idea about that to be honest :/
<disasm> musicmatze: at the top, add xorg
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<disasm> musicmatze: then add buildInputs = [ xorg.libX11 ]; around line 22 in your expression
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<musicmatze> disasm: you're assuming that the error in the PR is from the expression I tried as a first approach, but it is from the node-packages changes
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/6698e68aee (from 9 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<disasm> musicmatze: patchwork = callPackage ../applications/networking/patchwork { }; -- that's not coming from nodePackages
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<musicmatze> I guess we're talking about different things here...
<musicmatze> You think it is a better idea to use the hand-written expression for the package?
<musicmatze> Then, I guess, I need the package.nix file which somehow should be generated... I don't know how though
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] purefn opened pull request #31056: make sure which and curl are available in the PATH for sbt-extras (master...master) https://git.io/vFYP9
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<disasm> I'm not sure, I don't think the generator will work because of the x11 dependencies
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<disasm> ok... this might be a good example of how to do it, looks like you do throw everything in one dir from node2nix output pkgs/servers/web-apps/pump.io/default.nix
<musicmatze> I don't even know what "the generator" is in this case ... because node2nix generate files which do not look like the other "package.nix" files in the nixpkgs repository.
<nliadm> aw dip, go 1.10 is going to have content-based rebuilds instead of time-based. I think that'll make the go derivation simpler
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<maurer> So, it's been a bit since I used gpg on my nixos machine, and now suddenly it can't find pinentry
<maurer> I've checked that pinentry is installed, any ideas?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #31057: musl: 1.1.17 -> 1.1.18 (master...update/musl-1.1.18) https://git.io/vFYM0
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<goibhniu> hi maurer, have you tried programs.gnupg.agent.enable?
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<dj_goku_> fatal error: libusb-1.0/libusb.h: No such file or directory trying to compile an personal app that is using libusb1 but getting this error.
<dj_goku_> libusb1 has been added to configuration.nix and rebuilt.
<MoreTea> I tried tot recurse through all pkgs, in order to find the maintainer for some file (combined with pkg.$name.meta.positipm). However, I'm finding some attrsets that include themselves in them, causing infinite recursion.
<dj_goku_> also I can find the header here: find /nix/store -name "libusb.h"
<dj_goku_> /nix/store/64v3glbah7fpr1k24hfhz8al23aagady-libusb-1.0.20-dev/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
<MoreTea> As a hacksh solutiom, I'm using a blacklist.
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<MoreTea> Any suggestions on how to get around that?
<MoreTea> I'm also willing to fix those cases
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<orivej> MoreTea: could you show how you currently collect maintainers?
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<goibhniu> dj_goku_: you should probably be using nix-shell
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rnhmjoj opened pull request #31058: DNSChain: move expression to new nodePackages (master...dnschain) https://git.io/vFYyS
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<dj_goku_> goibhniu: hmm. sorry I haven't used that so far.
<MoreTea> orivej: Probably tomorrow. Am on mobile phone and tired.
<orivej> dj_goku_: without nix-shell you may have some success with export NIX_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu_CFLAGS_COMPILE="-I/run/current-system/sw/include -I$HOME/.nix-profile/include" NIX_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu_LDFLAGS="-L/run/current-system/sw/lib -L$HOME/.nix-profile/lib"
<MoreTea> Ran into this in the airplane from Nixcon to Amsterdam
<dj_goku_> I am ok with using nix-shell, just haven't had to use it yet.
<dj_goku_> is there a tutorial or a quickstart?
<orivej> MoreTea: I'd be interested to look into that
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<goibhniu> dj_goku_: check out https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-nix-shell
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<goibhniu> it's pretty easy
<gchristensen> is the pixel the phone to get these days?
<goibhniu> hopefully that works with your program
<gchristensen> pixel 2*
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<gchristensen> oh my word, vcunat
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<dj_goku_> when I type nix-shell I get default.nix’: No such file or directory
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<orivej> dj_goku_: try nix-shell -p libusb1
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<musicmatze> Okay, f*ck it. 3 hours and 45 minutes and I did not get it packaged yet... I'll call it a night. Hopefully someone will suggest some good things in the PR.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYHA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 252da8a Michael Weiss: wlroots: init at 2017-10-31...
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<fpletz> vcunat: <3 you should also join #nixos-dev
<vcunat> fpletz: oh, thanks, I forgot
<gchristensen> _gulp_ 540 PRs, this is out of control
<disasm> gchristensen: I'd wait on the pixel XL 2. Close to same size but more screen realestate from what I've heard.
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<tgunb> has someone here using jitsi?
<tgunb> s/has/is
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFYQx
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e031837 mingchuan: nixos/ssh: fix example
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master acdc892 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #31053 from sifmelcara/fix/ssh-example...
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<gchristensen> tgunb: yeah
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #31050: apache-httpd/wordpress: disable built-in WordPress autoupdater (master...wordpress-disable-autoupdates) https://git.io/vFYCM
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 527781e Bas van Dijk: apache-httpd: fix nix evaluation error...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e5a44f3 Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #31044 from LumiGuide/fix-apache-httpd...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #31061: pip-tools: disable tests (master...pip-tools) https://git.io/vFY7Y
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #31043: wordpress: 4.7.4 -> 4.8.3 (master...wordpress-4.8.3) https://git.io/vFYkf
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #31039: graphite: fix the graphiteApi service (master...fix-graphite-api) https://git.io/vFm5I
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vFY70
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 f07e751 taku0: firefox: 56.0.1 -> 56.0.2...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 21bb269 taku0: firefox-esr: 52.4.0esr -> 52.4.1esr...
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<gchristensen> disasm: hmm it isn't actually any bigger though?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vFY7i
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging fe83d91 Vladimír Čunát: rustc: disable a test failing on Hydra repeatedly...
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<gchristensen> disasm: I miss the iphone 5 sizee :(
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<garbas> with the new nix cli. what would be the equivalent of "nix-shell default.nix" where default.nix returns one derivation
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: it may be news, but phone sizes are measured in inches, not iPhone generations.
<garbas> "nix run -f default.nix" doesn't work
<layus> garbas: nix run ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFY5e
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master eb725c3 Andreas Rammhold: websocket++: 0.4.0 -> 0.7.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4b49e21 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #31051 from andir/websocket++-0.7.0...
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<garbas> layus: doesn't work, i thought i was doing something wrong
<garbas> i suppose i would need to specify INSTALLABLES
<dj_goku_> orivej: still same error
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<garbas> well staying with old nix-shell for now
<gchristensen> disasm, MichaelRaskin: I miss the IPHONE_5_WIDTH x IPHONE_5_HEIGHT form-factor :(
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<ylwghst> what I should use to auto mount flash drivers and cd's?
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: undefined reference.
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<layus> garbas looks like nix run is more like nix-shell -p, and not like nix-shell -A...
<universalpackage> how do u specify a custom ld-2.25.so location when compiling a program from source
<garbas> layus: i see. tnx that actually makes sense then
<orivej> dj_goku_: right, but this works for me: nix-shell -p gcc libusb1
<universalpackage> for example, to make a program use a modified version of /usr/lib64/ld-2.25.so instead of the system's /usr/lib64/ld-2.25.so
<tgunb> gchristensen: does it work without problems? neither jitsi desktop nor jitsi meet in the browser can access the microphone.
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<orivej> universalpackage: (1) there is a compiler flag to select which dynamic linker to link with; (2) you can edit it in the binary using patchelf
<makefu> universalpackage: you specify this at build time for each package separately.
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<tgunb> maybe unrelated: where can i get docs on the available groups on my system? e.g., what is the audio group for? (im not in it) skype can access the mic. jitsi meet says it cant access the phone for unknown reason and jitsi throws a lot of java exceptions.
<dj_goku_> orivej: oh oh adding gcc looks like it fixed it.
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<dj_goku_> orivej: ok cool. that worked great.
<orivej> fine
<universalpackage> what would the compiler flag be
<orivej> universalpackage: -Wl,-dynamic-linker,/path/to/ld.so
<universalpackage> ok
<garbas> gchristensen: i love your halloween costume!
<c0bw3b> gchristensen well you still have iPhone SE on iOS side and Samsung A3 or Sony X Compact on Android side
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFYdR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f90c468 Vladimír Čunát: nginxModules.moreheaders: fix source hash...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 947d48c Vladimír Čunát: 9pfs: fix src download...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pikajude opened pull request #31062: Fix ghcjs socket.io usage (master...ghcjs-fix) https://git.io/vFYdV
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<universalpackage> can nixos's libc be statically linked?
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<layus> universalpackage, it makes little sense to want a static libc, when nix force the package to use the libc given at build time.
<layus> to use another libc in a package, you need to override the default one in its arguments.
<layus> universalpackage, does it make sense ?
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<vcunat> universalpackage: glibc.static contains the static libs
<universalpackage> ok
<vcunat> but in general I'd try to avoid static libc
<layus> fpletz, ripgrep (rg), exa and ...
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<layus> fpletz, what was the name of the third tool, that replaces find ?
<fpletz> layus: fd :)
<layus> thanks!
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<universalpackage> as the furthest i can get with my (not nixos) systems libc is "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/6.3.1/libgcc_eh.a(unwind-dw2-fde-dip.o): In function `_Unwind_Find_FDE':(.text+0x1b6a): undefined reference to `dl_iterate_phdr'" via "gcc dummy.c -Wl,-Bstatic /lib64/libc_nonshared.a -static-libgcc"
<vcunat> ah, layus: https://github.com/UCL-INGI/webpy-INGI doesn't exist anymore, breaking the fetch of inginious
<vcunat> I can't directly see it moving somewhere else
<vcunat> (you're listed as the maintainer)
<layus> they removed the dependency, and use upstream now...
<layus> But that package is... unused, as far as I can tell
<freeman42x> is node2nix the recommended way to install NPM packages on Nix/OS? or what can/should I use?
<layus> I will still try to update it one last time.
<layus> vcunat, we really need stats to know if a package is worth maintaining...
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<vcunat> hmm, I think download stats for binary cache are obtainable (but not published ATM)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg closed pull request #30983: lxqt-panel: fix patch hash (master...u/fix-lxqt-panel) https://git.io/vFtjU
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<layus> vcunat, also, I was not notified of that failure. Does hydra not send emails for failed fetches ?
<vcunat> staging doesn't send notifications
<layus> k
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFYN3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a192319 Vladimír Čunát: altcoins.bitcoin-unlimited: fix source hash...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ff437fc Vladimír Čunát: scrot: 0.8-17 -> 0.8-18...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFYND
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master fb9e4da rnhmjoj: dnschain: move to nodePackages.dnschain
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ea8714e rnhmjoj: nixos/dnschain: use nodePackages.dnschain
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6d1317a Sander van der Burg: Merge pull request #31058 from rnhmjoj/dnschain...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYAm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 681c6f9 Vladimír Čunát: luaPackages.mpack: fix sourceRoot...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vFYAO
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 447802a Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFYAo
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ebc8ffb Sander van der Burg: groovebasin: remove
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<tgunb> dafuu?
<aminechikhaoui> #nixos is so popular that it's now getting weird bots :D
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<joepie91> hands down the weirdest spam I've seen on here
<joepie91> :P
<sphalerite> What spam?
<Lisanna> sphalerite: probably eternalminerals
<Lisanna> although, magnesium IS important...
<joepie91> lol
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<aminechikhaoui> haha
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] scolobb opened pull request #31063: icicles: 2014-11-06 -> 2017-10-28 (master...icicles-update) https://git.io/vFYpN
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] acowley closed pull request #31055: opencv3: fix on darwin (master...opencv3-darwin) https://git.io/vFY6D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #31064: nixos docs: add release manager section (master...release-manager-docs) https://git.io/vFYj3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lo1tuma opened pull request #31065: nodejs: 8.8.1 -> 8.9.0 (master...nodejs-8.9.0) https://git.io/vFYjo
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<orivej> universalpackage: here https://stackoverflow.com/q/14324157 they say that dl_iterate_phdr is provided by libc.a
<edef> orivej: it's provided by the dynamic linker
<edef> orivej: which you're probably not using if you're linking libc.a
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] disassembler closed pull request #31042: wp-cli: 1.3.0 -> 1.4.0 (master...update-wp-cli) https://git.io/vFYvO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFOvu
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b400e36 Orivej Desh: pip-tools: update tests for 1.9.0 -> 1.10.1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b51aa7b Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #31061 from orivej/pip-tools...
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<disasm> my nox-review is completely busted, lol. Anyone else using nixUnstable and see if it works for them? testing musl PR showed all these packages as being affected, and `git grep` seems to disagree: packagekit nix-bundle nix-exec disnixos hydra disnix gnome3.gnome-software gnome3.gnome-packagekit musl nixUnstable
<Dezgeg> seems correct, I think it's just musl -> busybox with enableMusl -> nixUnstable -> the reslt
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<disasm> oh :)