<infinisil>
I've been wanting to write a prezto module, but it kind integrates really badly
<infinisil>
Or just non-trivially
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<Profpatsch>
fpletz: I recovered my slides! Chromium still had the tab’s source cached and it was only that HTML file. :DD
<Profpatsch>
Too much luck for such a silly thing.
<rycee>
infinisil: Bummer :-(
<rycee>
eqyiel: I managed to solve the missing profiles/gcroots dirs in a different way so you don't need to worry about the nix-daemon.sh :-)
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<rycee>
eqyiel: Basically now the Home Manager activation will be done by a systemd service when used as a NixOS module. Actually it uses one service per user, which I guess should mean it is done in parallel.
<rycee>
eqyiel: I found this to be much more reliable.
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<ldlework>
I have this expression, https://gist.github.com/dustinlacewell-wk/e769c5a1b83dce78b732e5d3b7b93fd7 and I'm getting ‘tcp’ at /Users/dustinlacewell/.home-manager/src/viscosity/default.nix:6:9 called with unexpected argument ‘lib’, at /nix/store/vzm5715gmin0x65qlwrbm71sg3dkvf0r-nixpkgs-18.03pre118657.79aa720020/nixpkgs/lib/modules.nix:170:8
<ldlework>
which makes no sense to me given that I'm never calling tcp with "lib" argument
<ldlework>
I see I'm running into the fact that list elements are space delimited
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] csingley opened pull request #30943: nzbget.service override nzbget.conf broken paths with current derivation (master...nzbget) https://git.io/vFL9E
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<eqyiel[m]>
rycee: great, psyched to try it out!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl closed pull request #30698: coqPackages.dpdgraph: remove support for coq 8.7 (master...fix-coq-dpdgraph) https://git.io/vdAWn
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<vaibhavsagar>
I'm getting "error: unexpected EOF reading a line" when trying to use nix 1.12's nix-env. Is this normal?
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<tilpner>
How are you using it?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFLQv
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<codygman>
What are the steps to get sound working in nixos? I added hardware.pulseaudio.enable = true; hardware.pulseaudio.package = pkgs.pulseaudioFull; to configuration.nix but it doesn't seem to be working
<iqubic>
codygman: What machine are you using? What is the model of your computer.
<iqubic>
??
<codygman>
iqubic: I'm just now looking up my sound card. Sorry, will post details in a second. Should have gahtered those first.
<iqubic>
Yeah, that will be helpful/
<codygman>
iqubic: Oh... I think my sound is provided by my rx480 and I haven't installed the amd drivers because of potential headaches. But I think my i5-6700k should have one too...
<codygman>
wait thats silly
<iqubic>
What is the issue?
<codygman>
I have installed pulseaudio on a fresh nix system. My device (Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)) is not shown in kde plasma settings and no sound plays
<iqubic>
I have no idea what's wrong.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] chris-martin opened pull request #30947: nixos/services.nginx: backport globalRedirect example documentation fix to 17.09 (release-17.09...pr/nginx-doc-fix-backport) https://git.io/vFLdk
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<fooz>
hi nixos; in the livecd, should i be able to do a "nixos-rebuild switch" ?
<fooz>
when i do it it fails to download some things
<fooz>
but i haven't modified the /etc/nixos/configuration.nix yet
<codygman>
iqubic: no prob... I'll debug some more after I grab something to eat
<iqubic>
fooz: do you have internet on the live system.
<adisbladis>
codygman: Might be a stupid question but did you make a new login session?
<fooz>
iqubic: no, no internet.. i was going to import a closure from a usb with the necessary drivers & firmware to get internet
<fooz>
but i can't do a rebuild switch w/o internet on the new livecd it seems
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<iqubic>
fooz: you need internet to do a rebuild of any kind.
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<fooz>
iqubic: ah, i didn't know that. in that case, i'm not sure how i applied this closure in the past ...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFLpV
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 8af79c8 adisbladis: pythonPackages.ofxclient: Depend on beautifulsoup4 instead of beautifulsoup3
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ff40e1b Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #30948 from adisbladis/pythonPackages.ofxclient-bs4...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vFLp1
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 6d41ae5 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into HEAD
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<Ralith>
rycee: this is actually the least broken my theming has been in years, now that I have things untangled
<Ralith>
\o/
<Ralith>
it'd be fun, but effortful, to explore having first-class Qt support
<kiloreux>
I generated private key and put it nixpkgs server and trying to use that machine as binarycache. But it gets ignored and just moves to cache.nixos.org for binaries :/
<kiloreux>
Any idea about what I could be doing wrong /
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] LnL7 opened pull request #30951: docs: add section on common darwin issues (master...darwin-docs) https://git.io/vFLp9
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<fearlessKim[m]>
nautilus detects tar.gz as 'text/plain', sthg somewhere went terribly wrong
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] aneeshusa opened pull request #30952: Build vagrant from source (master...build-vagrant-from-source) https://git.io/vFLhi
<hyper_ch>
not everybody's hangover from last night's party?
<bobthebrain>
hello all. i've encountered a problem building a library called pari on darwin. an ld command fails with "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:", and then a giant list of symbols which should have been found in libSystem.dylib. i've tried a few different things, including messing around with NIX_LDFLAGS and ensuring that those symbols are in fact in the libSystem that is baked into the ld binary. any suggestions for where to
<nixo[m]>
Unfortunately work takes precedence over hangovers
<hyper_ch>
btw, what's considered "Hackathon" today and tomorrow?
<hyper_ch>
bobthebrain: no idea, sorry
<LnL>
bobthebrain: could you paste a log somewhere?
<LnL>
there are some topics on the website
<bobthebrain>
LnL: i recognize your handle from the discussion around a pull request exporting i386 symbols from libSystem - i should mention that i tried messing around with that sort of thing too, to no avail.
<bobthebrain>
i will soon post a pastebin link with all relevant details
<codygman>
How can I agree to the terms and conditions of the androidsdk nixos derivation? It seems to fail because it creates a file to confirm acceptance in /nix or something?
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<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: you have to add the public signing key to your nix.conf
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<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: under binary-cache-public-keys
<kiloreux>
Do you have any example for how to set this up?
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<Li[m]>
i have nixpkgs defined in NIX_PATH to use my local tree, but my ~/.nix-defexpr points to a tree in the store which is different. How would I go about making them the same tree?
<kiloreux>
vaibhavsagar, Thank you. Not really :( .
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<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: for a regular build, you can do `nix-build --option ssh-substituter-hosts user@host`
<vaibhavsagar>
but it looks like support was recently added for a channel with basic auth through a .netrc file if that works better
<kiloreux>
Just to make things clear. The private key will be on my local machine and public key added to remote nix machine ?
<kiloreux>
And then I could just access it ?
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<Orbstheorem>
Hi, I just booted a previous generation of my system, is there any way to get my configuration.nix at that time?
<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: yes, that sounds right to me
<vaibhavsagar>
as long as the remote machine has nix.sshServe configured
<kiloreux>
:( No idea how to do that ?
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<vaibhavsagar>
the remote machine needs to be able to serve binaries over SSH :)
<vaibhavsagar>
were you expecting it to work without doing that?
<sphalerite>
Orbstheorem: not really. This is what people keep their configuration in git for
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<Orbstheorem>
:(
* Orbstheorem
didn't know
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<sphalerite>
Orbstheorem: you can have your configuration.nix copied into the system generation, but that requires the foresight to set that up
<sphalerite>
Orbstheorem: but that isn't very helpful if you split your cinfig into multiple files
<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: if it were running NixOS it would be as easy as setting 'nix.sshServe.enable = true' in your configuration.nix
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<kiloreux>
Ohh wait, it's a nix docker machine running on Ubuntu.
<kiloreux>
My bad
<Orbstheorem>
I don't I have only configuration.nix and hardware-configuration.nix (which I was considering merging anyways)
<sphalerite>
What I've been meaning to do is have a setup that in addition to version-controlling my system manually will create a commit on a separate branch for each generation built
<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: can you ssh into it?
<kiloreux>
Nope. Still struggling to solve that. But I can access it through the docker interface
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<sphalerite>
So that I can not only easily see what config resulted in a particular generation, but also which changes happened between them
<vaibhavsagar>
kiloreux: okay, your first step is to figure out sshing into it from your local machine
<sphalerite>
Might hack on that at the nixcon hack today!
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<Orbstheorem>
Back when I was in debian I had snapper do btrfs snapshots everytime the system boots, I though I wouldn't beed such control with nixos
<Orbstheorem>
Nixcon? ^^
<sphalerite>
nixcon2017.org
<sphalerite>
The conference with its talks took place this weekend, now today and tomorrow are hackathon time
<alp>
sphalerite, that would be something I'd use.
<Harekiet>
did nixcon end with booze, music and strippers?
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<vcunat>
Harekiet: I left the overnight hackathlon before midnight already
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<sphalerite>
Harekiet: not quite. Booze, food, and hacking
<Harekiet>
good enough
<hyper_ch>
how does one actually create proper patches?
<sphalerite>
Most people didn't stay very late afaik
<hyper_ch>
and what do you do at hackathon?
<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: as in patch files? Easiest way is usually git when possible. Otherwise, diff
<Harekiet>
play with arduino's or something I guess :)
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: tried to add a custom patch to my rtorrent-ps.nix and miserably failed
<sphalerite>
Otherwise make two copies of the stuff you want to patch, one pristine and one with your changes, and run diff -r pristine changed
<sphalerite>
Not sure if it needs any extra flags
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<sphalerite>
Adds all the files
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<hyper_ch>
oh, let's try that
<ixxie>
I am told that is bad practice though, to add all files
<ixxie>
at least under normal circumstances
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<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: git commit just opens nano with a whole bunch of files
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<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: git format-patch doesn't do anything
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<gilligan_>
good morning o/
<vcunat>
Morning!
<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: that nano is where you describe what changes you're committing
<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: git format-patch needs to be given a set of commits to format as patches
<bobthebrain>
LnL: i suppose i should have been more focused on that than on the nix side of things. however, i did build the library successfully without nix. will investigate further. thanks for the help!
<sphalerite>
If you just want to create a patch from the latest commit, do git format-patch HEAD~..HEAD
<LnL>
bobthebrain: there's also another issue, but I think I got it working now
<bobthebrain>
LnL: by it, do you mean the pari library in particular?
<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: not really :p
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<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: while you're here... I have prepared another attack on you ;)
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: in this nix expression: https://github.com/sjau/nix-expressions/blob/master/rtorrent-ps.nix if I also add this packages to the top list: python27Packages.virtualenv it complainsa bout the "." there... how to circumvent that? since those python things are needed I'd like to add them
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<JosW>
Will the topic from today also be recorded?
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<vcunat>
JosW: I don't expect recordings from the hackathlon, but I don't really know. I'd be interested in the explanation of those cross-compiling changes.
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<JosW>
MoreTea: if you have anything on writing for your hackathlon talk would you be willing to share the insights?
<mutagenfork>
exit
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<etairi>
Is there any NixOS distribution that works on Raspberry Pi?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFtTO
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master 65b5f17 Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchgit: Support a "name" attribute...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master f25791c Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchgit: Don't mess up the progress indicator
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master 66ddbef Eelco Dolstra: fetchurl/fetchTarball: Respect name changes...
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<Harekiet>
thought nixos pretty much was amd64 only, maybe still some i686
<michaelpj>
etairi: I think various folks have tried, and I think it's feasible in principle, but you need to either compile a bunch of stuff on the Pi (SLOW), or cross-compile, and the cross-compilation story on NixOS isn't quite there yet (although people are working on it)
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<bobthebrain>
LnL: seems to be working. thanks so much, really appreciate this!
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<LnL>
bobthebrain: the problem with the symbols was incorrect usage of ld
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<bobthebrain>
i'll keep that in mind as i continue to use (and debug) nix on macOS. again, appreciate the help1
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<LnL>
that's related to some recent cross changes, you could see ld compaining about wrong flags in the log
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<ahstro>
Anyone here using home-manager to manage xdg? I can't seem to get it to work. I've set `options.xdg.enable = true;`, but I can't use `config.xdg.configHome`.
<bobthebrain>
good 2 know.
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<tnias>
while updating i lost power and now have some corrupted binaries. i tried to repair them with `nix-store --repair`. this does not work as expected. am I doing something wrong or shall i file a bug report? https://gist.github.com/91e876b46772eba7e3f0e3f81f2103d9
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] KaiHa opened pull request #30957: gmailier: Init at 0.3 (master...gmailieer) https://git.io/vFtLW
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<rycee>
ahstro: Do you get some form of error message?
<ahstro>
Yeah, `attribute 'configHome' missing, ag /path/to/file.nix`
<ahstro>
rycee:
<ahstro>
If I don't set `options.xdg.enabled = true`, I get `attrubite 'xdg' missing` instead, so it's doing something, just not what I want
<ahstro>
Oh, hold up. Is xdg in the 17.09 release tarball? That might be it otherwise
<rycee>
Hmm, it should be `config.xdg.enable = true;` (if you want to alter the XDG base dirs).
<rycee>
Not `options.xdg.enabled = true`.
<ahstro>
rycee: I'm pretty sure it's that I'm using 17.09 and not unstable since the 17.09 branch doesn't have the xdg code
<rycee>
Right. I'll bump the branch to be in line with master.
<rycee>
ahstro: Try updating hm now. The 17.09 branch should have the xdg code.
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<ahstro>
rycee: Is there a way to force hm to fetch the source?
<rycee>
I think the easiest method is to delete the cached file: `rm -rv ~/.cache/nix/tarballs/*-master.tar.gz*`
<rycee>
Ah, sorry you'd need `*-release-17.09.tar.gz*` at the end instead
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<toogley>
how can i fix this unittest failure of the leksah package "but got: Right (PlanJson {pjPlan = [PlanItem {piId = "Cabal-1.24.0.0", piType = "pre-existing", piComps = [(ComponentLib,fromList ["array-0.5.1.1","base-4.9.0.0"])]},PlanItem {piId = "QuickCheck-2.9.1-ec9a1c39266d75ed2c3314f6e846a8f11853eff43fc45db79c7256d9bfd94602", piType = "configured", piComps = [(ComponentLib,fromList
<toogley>
["base-4.9.0.0","containers-0.5.7.1","random-1.1-fe6ccf72ebd63a2d68570bb45b42bd08df5570c6151cb9af54907d40ef9af454"])]}], pjCabalVersion = "1.24.0.0", pjCabalLibVersion = "1.24.0.0", pjCompilerId = Nothing, pjOS = Nothing, pjArch = Nothing})" ? here is the full log https://ptpb.pw/iOcP
<ahstro>
rycee: That symlinks to something in /nix/store, which I've been told not to touch. Using the GitHub master link works though, so if they're equal, release should be fine. Thanks!
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<disasm>
who wants to work on documentation for the hackathon?
<sphalerite>
disasm: I'm almost there, I'll join you!
<MoreTea>
is github.com/spinus in Munich today as well?
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<rycee>
ahstro: The stuff in ~/.cache/nix/tarballs are just symlinks to the nix store so it should be fine to just remove. I.e., you are just deleting the symlink to the nix store nothing inside the nix store itself.
<ahstro>
rycee: I tried that, problem was hm just seemed to symlink them back up
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] disassembler opened pull request #30958: overlay: doc update for self/super -> previous/final (master...overlay-self-super-rename) https://git.io/vFtYU
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<rycee>
ahstro: Hmm, odd. I think they are cached for an hour by default so you can always have a coffee break ;-)
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<ahstro>
rycee: Haha good solution :)
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<_rvl>
Hi, do we have anything similar to dwww in nixos? It is a web server for all your installed docs on a debian system -- https://wiki.debian.org/doc-base
<domenkozar>
pie___: pong
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFtOU
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master e383828 Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchGit: Return an attrset with revision info...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] domenkozar closed pull request #1633: Update the language documentation (master...doc) https://git.io/vFUmv
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<mpickering>
Anyone want to offer a quick review of #30805
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<MoreTea>
JosW: are you in munich?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFtsX
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b8a7c45 Matthew Pickering: Fix idrisPackages.with-packages...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] yuriaisaka opened pull request #30960: skk-dicts: init at 2017-10-26 (master...pr-skk-dicts-init) https://git.io/vFtsA
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<tgunb>
can someone tell me how to change the ui language in firefox and thunderbird?
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<gilligan_>
Hey NixCon2017 People : how about joining #nixcon2017 which would make it easy to communicate among those who are at the hackathon now ? ;--)
<tgunb>
and how to add another dictionary in thunderbird? i tried throuh settings, which redirects me to some mozilla site, and download my language. that opened a save file popup and i saved it in ~/Downloads. but he webpage still has the tab title say loading... , and i dont know, how i am supposed to add the dictionary.
<gchristensen>
gilligan_: sounds great!
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<gchristensen>
gilligan_: share in #nixos-dev too?
<gilligan_>
gchristensen, sure, mind doing so?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] nbp opened pull request #30961: types.submodule: Replace a friendly comment by a more gentle one. (master...replace-friendly-comment) https://git.io/vFtZO
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFtZs
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master f1c555c Eelco Dolstra: fetchurl/fetchTarball are *not* allowed in restricted mode...
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sphalerite: join #nixcon2017
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[nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFtnF
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master dd0cdc2 Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.camlp5: 7.02 -> 7.03
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<disasm>
infinisil: how's the train ride home?
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<arximboldi>
stupid question: is there a way to know in the `shellHook` the location of the shell.nix file?
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<arximboldi>
(e.g. such that the script works correctly when you run it from a different directory than that one, and pass it the location of the shell.nix file explicitly)
<gchristensen>
arximboldi: you can do ${toString ./shell.nix}
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] nbp closed pull request #30961: types.submodule: Replace a friendly comment by a more gentle one. (master...replace-friendly-comment) https://git.io/vFtZO
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<MoreTea>
nixops question! what's the difference exactly between get_type and get_resource_type in nixops's resource classes?
<Twey>
The checksum given to fetchurl is wrong, okay, and if I fix it the error goes away
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<Twey>
But neither of the expected and actual checksums given in the error matches either the wrong checksum given to fetchurl or the real checksum of the file
<pmeunier>
domenkozar: (1) targetPort and custom bootstrap images are not supported. (2) nixops calls deprecated and obsolete versions of the google cloud API
<pmeunier>
Can I expect my deployments to work if I upgrade nixops?
<pmeunier>
I just deployed 10 times, with the same parameters, before it started working.
<pmeunier>
(I'm not used to this at all on the rest of NixOS)
<gchristensen>
the GCE support is not wonderful
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<pmeunier>
I've used nixops on hetzner before, it works great, but hetzner is not very scalable
<pmeunier>
and their administration is not as flexible as GCE
<pmeunier>
gchristensen: so, what is the recommended way? EC2?
<shlevy>
gchristensen: Oof... Can we just tag emails with a rotating filter?
<abbradar>
gchristensen: when does GrahamcOfBorg trigger?
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<Unode>
woffs: seems like overriding the package wasn't sufficient. There's also services.xserver.windowManager.awesome . Can one override those too to use my patched version instead?
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<fearlessKim[m]>
any sed/awk/kungfoo advice to remove from a file everything from "dependencies = {" to "}" ?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master da866a6 James Earl Douglas: jenkins: 2.86 -> 2.87
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ca90169 Tim Steinbach: Merge pull request #30970 from earldouglas/jenkins-2.87...
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<ahstro>
infinisil: How do you launch your xsession? I've basically copied your config, but `systemctl start display-manager` doesn't start XMonad
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<k_sze>
Erm... how did the nix installation script manage to create /nix without sudo?
<ben>
are you sure it didn't sudo?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master abbea50 zimbatm: CODEOWNERS: add zimbatm to ruby modules
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0a46a71 zimbatm: gitAndTools.git-codeowners: init at 0.1.1
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<k_sze>
ben: I called `sh ./install-nix-1.11.15` as my regular user, not root.
<ben>
k_sze: i think it uses sudo internall?
<ben>
+y
<k_sze>
But it didn't ask me for sudo.
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<freeman42x>
if I do this: `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable nixos-unstable` and update the channels, will nixos-rebuild switch start using all unstable packages?
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<vincent_vdk>
anyone knows how to get python-jedi working in vim on NixOS?
<riclima>
Hey guys so I'm trying to set the Nix environment variables so that GUI Emacs can use them (and other applications as well) on macOS
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<riclima>
I _finally_ figured out that there is a way to make changes with launchctl that will stick
<riclima>
Over reboots
<riclima>
I'm wondering A) why doesn't Nix set its environment variables that way on macOS so it integrates it more tightly integrates with the system
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<k_sze>
No seriously, unless I have amnesia and totally missed the prompt for my password, I think something is really really wrong about the installation script being able to create /nix/
<riclima>
and B) what's the Nix initialization process? I wanna look at all the variables I need to set
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<gchristensen>
hrm that isn't what I asked it to do ...
<ahstro>
rycee: How do I start X via hm? I've got my `xsession.enable` and `xsession.windowManager.xmonad.enable`, but `systemctl start display-manager` just runs slim with no xmonad.
<wizeman>
oh oh. I just noticed that my force push deleted a bunch of branches, how can they be restored?
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<gchristensen>
yikes, wizeman, do you know which ones?
<goibhniu>
adisbladis I've cleaned up the audio for one talk and uploaded it here: https://youtu.be/fdj9tzRaLn4 ... if you (or anyone else) has tips on how to improve it, that would be great!
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* goibhniu
used gate -> limiter -> compressor ... there's quite a bit of fizz when people talk, but I think that's about as good as it gets
<k_sze>
Ok, and any sudoer won't need these build users either, correct?
<layus>
yes, but there is no reason to run nix with sudo if the daemon works
<layus>
(except for 'nix-build --check' which does not work through the daemon apparently)
<tgunb>
how do i make a release upgrade?
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[nixpkgs] grahamc created 0.5-stable from backups/0.5-stable@34171 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vFt9k
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/0.5-stable b9686c2 Eelco Dolstra: * Merge r990 into 0.5-stable....
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<tgunb>
just replace the 'nixos' channel?
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nixpkgs/darwin-callpackage 89c2e33 Jude Taylor: Bring Darwin frameworks and libs into scope in all packages by default...
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<k_sze>
layus: And the owner of the store (or users who have access to the nix daemon-socket) can build and install packages that other users (who don't have access to the nix daemon-socket) can use?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc created python-wip at 7726a1e (+0 new commits): https://git.io/vzaOS
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nixpkgs/qknight-overrideAttrs d063646 Joachim Schiele: Update python.md...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/qknight-overrideAttrs 6e972bb Joachim Schiele: Update python.md
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/qknight-overrideAttrs 87e8b5d Joachim Schiele: Update python.md
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<civodul>
grahamc: are you reviving the gnu-kfreebsd branch? :-)
<gchristensen>
lol, no
<gchristensen>
well yes, but not really
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[nixpkgs] grahamc created reproducibility (+2 new commits): https://git.io/vFtQU
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nixpkgs/reproducibility ba541d1 Eelco Dolstra: Gratuitous whitespace commit to force a rebuild
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/reproducibility c0c8ee3 Eelco Dolstra: Another gratuitous whitespace commit to force a rebuild
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<gchristensen>
someone accidentally deleted a bunch of branches, so I'm putting them back :)
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[nixpkgs] grahamc created revert-14975-pythonblas (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vwuPm
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/revert-14975-pythonblas 48177a1 Frederik Rietdijk: Revert "Python: don't propagate blas"
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<gchristensen>
sorry for the noise
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nixpkgs/security-updates 8c10159 Nicolas B. Pierron: Extract all imports out of pkgsWithOvverrides....
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nixpkgs/security-updates cff0bc1 Nicolas B. Pierron: Add pkgsWithPackages function, and split pkgs expression.
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/security-updates 3846c86 Nicolas B. Pierron: Move the fix-point from pkgsWithOverridesWithPackages to pkgs, and add the unfix prefix to functions.
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nixpkgs/staging.patchShebangs 1eeb4b3 Domen Kožar: While patching shebangs in source, keep the modification date...
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[nixpkgs] grahamc created syscall-tracing (+13 new commits): https://git.io/vFtQY
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #30976: Add a branch-restore.sh script for restoring branches after accidental deletion (master...restore-branch-script) https://git.io/vFt7N
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<wizeman>
@gchristensen I will install such a hook, thanks! (and thanks for restoring the deleted branches!)
<gchristensen>
:) you're welcome! I've done it a couple times now, no worries
<disasm>
nico202: It was mentioned in domenkozar's talk yesterday that he might have some funding to hire someone to work on it. I'd hit him up if you're interested.
<copumpkin>
niksnut: fixed the name
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[nixpkgs] rvl opened pull request #30978: Two bower2nix bug fixes (master...bower2nix-fixes) https://git.io/vFtxs
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<nico202>
disasm: I thought it was promising, so I'd love to see some development on it, I'll pledge him (symbolic, I'm a student) on patreon
<nico202>
MoreTea, disasm: is there a video recording of it on youtube?
<nico202>
oh cool, there is
<infinisil>
Was really nice meeting all the people at NixCon! Shoutout to everybody I met there!
<disasm>
infinisil: make it home?
<infinisil>
Yup :D
<disasm>
infinisil: also, were you interested in helping with doc efforts?
<infinisil>
disasm: How's the hackathon going?
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<infinisil>
I need to go to university tomorrow again, and I'm still really tired, so probably not, sorry!
<disasm>
infinisil: going well!
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<DavidEGrayson>
I'm using nix version 1.11.15. Once in a while I encounter a problem where I have written something like "cml = ./CMakeLists.txt;" in my derivation, and nix-build populates the cml environment variable with a name like /nix/store/...-CMakeLists.txt but that name is wrong and doesn't actually exist in the Nix store.
<DavidEGrayson>
Then when I start to look into this sort of problem by changing random things like the variable name and its ordering, things often start working again.
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<DavidEGrayson>
Seems like a Nix bug. I know I should make an MCVE and post it to https://github.com/nixos/nix/issues but just thought I'd mention it here first if anyone had some quick info.
<DavidEGrayson>
In my example, the ... is supposed to be a normal hash. Everything about the name is normal except it's not actually in the Nix store when nix-build runs my builder script.
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[nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vFth3
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ecdf4f1 Franz Pletz: php56: 5.6.31 -> 5.6.32
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 3975f26 Franz Pletz: php70: 7.0.24 -> 7.0.25
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nixpkgs/master f41f5a8 Franz Pletz: php71: 7.1.9 -> 7.1.11
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<pie___>
domenkozar, the reason i inged you was because some python wheel building wasnt working, it was complaining baout an invali wheel name or something, and some lokgs i found on gogle suggested you knew what to do, but meanwhile i managed to cannibalize an expression from the other result to get it to work
<pie___>
*pinged
<pie___>
wow i cant type haha
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<pie___>
i should start proofreading i guess
<DavidEGrayson>
OH, the problem I mentioned might be my own fault. I see now that I issued a "mv" command in my builder script, which would have moved that file away. oops!
<maurer>
hyper_ch: File a bug about the problem you've found and @ thenm
<maurer>
hyper_ch: Github removed its chat feature long ago, so you can't just directly messge them
<maurer>
*message
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqvD
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b93df24 Daiderd Jordan: pari: enable darwin build
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<hyper_ch>
maurer: it's not a bug.... I packaged rtorrent-ps and I've been pondering to get the current rtorrent maintainers opinion on it
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<maurer>
hyper_ch: You could @ them on the pull request
<hyper_ch>
btw, half the people in here are still @ hackathon?
<hyper_ch>
PRs are too complicated for me
<hyper_ch>
it's like asking a cavemen to do quantum physics ;)
<vincent_vdk>
is there a way to run Vim in a nix-shell?
<maurer>
vincent_vdk: Yeah, just add vim_configurable or vim to your dependencies
<maurer>
I use this to add a rustified vim to my dev environments.
<vincent_vdk>
i need the python Jedi module but it's not available when i start vim
<hyper_ch>
Sith > Jedi
<maurer>
vincent_vdk: You'll want vim_configurable for that, look up how to add modules to it
<maurer>
hyper_ch: Clone nixpkgs to your github account. Push your updated nixpkgs to a branch on your github account. Go to your github clone of the repo, select that branch. There will be a button to create a PR. Hit it. Edit the message that pops up to check the relevant boxes saying how you've tested. @ the dude you want to look over it
<vincent_vdk>
ah, already installed it. searching for docs on the modules now
<vincent_vdk>
maurer: thx
<hyper_ch>
maurer: thx
<jophish__>
I'm about to get a Linode instance, happy to input someone's referral code
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[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqJm
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 25c8014 Tim Steinbach: gradle: 4.2.1 -> 4.3
<numerobis>
Hello! I'm trying to upgrade my system using nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade, but I get the following error: "The unique option `users.users.gitolite.group' is defined multiple times, in `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/config/users-groups.nix' and `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/config/users-groups.nix'. Would anyone here know
<numerobis>
what might be the cause of it (I'm a beginner with nix)
<srhb>
numerobis: It would appear you've defined users.users.gitolite.group multiple times :)
<jophish__>
thanks hyper_ch, looks like a few people are working on nixops support for linode
<hyper_ch>
jophish__: well, clever's kexec just boots a nixos ramdisk from which you can then install the rest of the system....
<toogley>
where can i look into if my server in my local network doesn't respond when i use his hostname, but does when i use his ip address?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #30988: autotrace: mark as insecure (master...autotrace-insecure) https://git.io/vFqTn
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<hyper_ch>
probably not set a hostname?
<hyper_ch>
well, usually look into your configuration.nix :)
<hyper_ch>
or maybe the router has issues with the hostname
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] nbp pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqTg
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 1d56d0c Nicolas B. Pierron: types.submodule: Fix the NixOS Manual, by escaping the <> symbols.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] chris-martin opened pull request #30989: nixos/acme: remove doc note about restarting nginx (master...pr/acme-doc) https://git.io/vFqTr
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<srhb>
Won't you need a local DNS server for that?
<srhb>
I don't actually have a router personally, but I would expect something like that to be necessary. :-)
<hyper_ch>
well, most home routers do local dhcp hostname resolution in my experience
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<Judson>
gchristensen, zimbatm: do y'all know anything about what's happening with Bundix?
<toogley>
hyper_ch: a hostname is set
<manveru>
Judson: what's happening?
<hyper_ch>
toogley: well, don't know then
<hyper_ch>
can you ping that box from itself by hostname?
<grahamc>
Manveru is happening :)
<toogley>
srhb: hm, i don't know. i don't run a dns server conciously and it worked in some earlier version of nixos (i think)
<toogley>
hyper_ch: nope
<hyper_ch>
if you're on the box itself
<Judson>
manveru, I hadn't seen any movement there recently - I put in a PR ages back that didn't matter at the time since the changes to the expressions weren't supported by nixpkgs yet. They are now, and I was wondering if that PR could get merged?
<hyper_ch>
and you can't ping itself by its hostname
<hyper_ch>
then something seems wrong with that box
<hyper_ch>
what is the /etc/hosts file like?
<Judson>
(there's conflicts now, and partly I'm wondering if it makes sense to fix them or what)
<toogley>
and in #linux i was advised to look in /etc/hosts, but i haven't found sth corresponding in nixos (which generates that correctly)
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<toogley>
the hostname is not inside /etc/hosts just some ip adresses
<srhb>
toogley: It should be in /etc/hostname though
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<toogley>
inside the box, i can run ping <honstname> which works
<manveru>
Judson: well, this might have to wait until tomorrow...
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<manveru>
Judson: it's been a while since i looked at it
<lebel>
anybody's working with power.ups.enable? I'm trying to configure it to work with my usbhid-ups.
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* hyper_ch
still wonders what people do all day long at a hackatholon
<catern>
hack
<numerobis>
srhb: Thanks, but the only line of my config wher gitolite and groups/users appear together is the following: users.extraUsers.gitolite.group = "lighttpd"; do you think that this might be the problematic line?
<srhb>
numerobis: Maybe something weird is going on with the mix between users.users and users.extraUsers. Perhaps try changing that extraUsers to users
<srhb>
hyper_ch: Not any Nix hackathons sadly.
<hyper_ch>
awwww
<hyper_ch>
neither am I... had to do real work today :)
<srhb>
Next time! :)
* hyper_ch
hides
<numerobis>
srhb: Thank you very much. i'll try that now and report back here.
<disasm>
hyper_ch: haven't you seen the mass amount of git activity by the bot? :)
<hyper_ch>
disasm: don't trust bots... they'll all go syknet eventually
<disasm>
hyper_ch: lol :)
<disasm>
hyper_ch: maybe next year you'll make NixCon :)
* hyper_ch
wonders if the facebook generation still knows what skynet is
<hyper_ch>
disasm: I listened in on the live streams
<disasm>
hyper_ch: awesome :)
<hyper_ch>
but did I see right that you were all put into the basement?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] adisbladis opened pull request #30990: libarchive: Fixes for CVE-2017-14166 and CVE-2017-14502 (master...libarchive-cves) https://git.io/vFqtC
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<hyper_ch>
srhb: btw, you remember I bugged you about writing a nix expression around 2-3 weeks back and you kindly explained things?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] nbp opened pull request #30991: modules: Add a way to forward submodules definitions to the parent. (master...add-forward-submodule-options-defs) https://git.io/vFqt6
<hyper_ch>
srhb: well, finally finished and got it working :)
<srhb>
hyper_ch: That's great to hear! :)
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<hyper_ch>
in the end I didn't do override since I was overriding basically everything but for rtorrent-ps write a new expression... I did howver some overriding for libtorrent :)
<srhb>
hyper_ch: Definitely prefer the haxor version :-P
<hyper_ch>
so rt-ps is colored, one-line per torrent (if condensed view is selected [default]), it contains more user info.... and tons of other things :)
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<hyper_ch>
still need to figure out howto easily setup the user configuration for it
<adisbladis>
disasm: Oops, ticked the wrong box in the PR.
<adisbladis>
No have not had time to do a full nox-review yet :)
<adisbladis>
It's running now
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<hyper_ch>
still can't nix-index get to run properly I think
<disasm>
adisbladis: give up, it'll crash
<disasm>
adisbladis: I have a PR for pcre that's in the same boat. We'll get both of those pushed to staging for hydra soon.
<adisbladis>
Cool. Sounds good.
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<adisbladis>
disasm: Should I rebase and target staging instead?
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<ylwghst>
brb
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<toogley>
what is the way to reuse e.g. what i assigned to networking.hostName ? ${networking.hostName} doesn't work and i don't know for what term i should search in the docs
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<ylwghst>
toogley:
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<vincent_vdk>
is this a wise thing to do? : nix-shell -p python35Packages.jedi --run "vim"
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<toogley>
ylwghst: in configuration.nix
<toogley>
ylwghst: in extraHosts basically
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vinymeuh opened pull request #30993: pythonPackages.py3exiv2: init at 0.2.1 (master...py3exiv2) https://git.io/vFqO9
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<rycee>
toogley: Typically you would use something like `${config.networking.hostName}` where `config` is defined as a module argument.
<ylwghst>
toogley: sure but how?
<ylwghst>
basically it should work
<freeman42x>
`stack hoogle` dies on zlib missing header. I have hoogle installed via nix `ghcWithHoogle`. what is the equivalent of just running `stack hoogle` ?
<vincent_vdk>
ldlework: thanks. can't find a better way to get jedi available for vim
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<ylwghst>
try ${config.networking.hostName}
<ldlework>
vincent_vdk what do you mean "jedi for vim"?
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<ldlework>
make sure both are installed. use a vim configuration that tells vim where jedi is.
<disasm>
adisbladis: I'll check with folks here tonight.
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<toogley>
rycee: ylwghst aah, that's what i was searching for. thanks!
<vincent_vdk>
ldlework: hmmm didn't know you could do that
<ylwghst>
toogley: is it working?
<toogley>
ylwghst: yep
<ldlework>
vincent_vdk do you use something like home-manager?
<ambro718>
I have the issue that VirtualBox (host) does not work with OpenGL acceleration, this should be this bug https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/22760 but that is supposed to have been fixed ?
<ldlework>
It can help you render configs that know where nix packages live
<ambro718>
I have exactly the same errors as in that bug report
<ylwghst>
then click on Declared in: link < to get more info
<ldlework>
So you can write a package that installs both vim and jedi, and then you can refer to those packages to get their specific store locations
<ldlework>
For example if you need to refer to some file in the jedi package from your vimrc
<vincent_vdk>
ldlework: no, just installed NixOS this weekend. still finding my way
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<infinisil>
Huh, weird, I can't seem to use `nix-env -if` to install packages, getting "error: unexpected EOF reading a line"
<infinisil>
Never seen that before
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqG1
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master 72cd52c Eelco Dolstra: builtins.fetchgit: Support importing a working tree...
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<infinisil>
Well until yesterday evening
<ldlework>
infinisil are you passing a file?
<infinisil>
yes
<ldlework>
Is the file incomplete?
<ldlework>
:D
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<ldlework>
I've been "nix-env -i -f ."-ing all day
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<infinisil>
Yeah, it builds with nix-build, but I can't install it
<ldlework>
strange
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<infinisil>
My user profile seems to be messed up, it works with a different user
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<infinisil>
Oh, I should use -vvvv
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<dysrupti0n>
hello! new nixos user here. I've added the nixpkgs-unstable channel to nix-env, but it seems that for example spotify isn't found via nix-env though it is installable when I place it in the systemPkgs in my nixos config. is nix-env missing a channel or something?
<palo>
hmm nixos.org seems to be down, and I can't start a nix-shell anymore :( I can't figure out to skip connect to the nixos-cache.
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<dysrupti0n>
as a convention, if you run nixos, when do you install packages via nixos config and when do you use nix-env?
<samueldr>
I generally install everything in my nixos configs
<infinisil>
palo: it's up for me, but you can avoid the cache with --option use-substitutes false
<samueldr>
but start off installing through nix-env when it's either a one-time use or when I don't know if it will be useful
<palo>
infinisil: thx
<samueldr>
there is one exception, I install chromium via nixos configs, but install google-chrome-beta from nixos-unstable, and update nixos-unstable channel in my user's profile much more frequently (to get google chrome updates)
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<samueldr>
cache.nixos.org is on S3, which means highly available geographically distributed failure points :^)
<infinisil>
Actually, I'm trying to download something from the cache right now, and it doesn't work, but that really might just be a problem on my sidde
<samueldr>
(even though I'm mocking it, S3 is great in many ways, and the organization would probably have many more issues managing anything else)
<infinisil>
Or not, cache might actually be down
<srhb>
I need a usage survey or something. I think nobody is using the zabbix modules (probably) since they're quite old. I rather feel like ripping out parts rather than updating what exists.
<srhb>
But it's hard to tell if that would break something for someone.
<palo>
infinisil: does not work for me
<palo>
nixos.org is also not there yet :(
<infinisil>
I have no problems with the homepage, only with the cache
<hyper_ch>
Mic92: are you there?
<palo>
hmm
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<palo>
infinisil: the thing is it trys to connect to the cache instead on using my local nix-store
<ylwghst>
ah wrong file
<infinisil>
palo: That's because you don't have it in your local store
<palo>
infinisil: you are right
<palo>
i just came to me too
<palo>
I made a upgrade last night
<palo>
and did not run this nix-shell script since than
<infinisil>
well i think the cache works, but it's really slow for me
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<infinisil>
yeah nix-shell doesn't keep the stuff it needs to run anywhere
<palo>
infinisil: but when I run another script I just wrote, everything is fine.
<palo>
it does not fetch from the cache
<palo>
anyway
<palo>
I'll wait for the cache server to come up again
* palo
speaks strange german-english today :D
<infinisil>
Were you at NixCon?
<infinisil>
palo: ^^
<palo>
no
<palo>
I'm in Chile right now.
<palo>
will be back in may in europe
<infinisil>
I see :)
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<Harekiet>
Is there some sort of build-essential package to pull in a bunch of dev things?
<srhb>
Harekiet: stdenv, for most maketoolsy things.
<Harekiet>
kay thnx
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<srhb>
Though the question is suspect, what are you _actually_ trying to do? :-)
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<Harekiet>
I just want gcc and autotools, to build some thing
<srhb>
Harekiet: You shouldn't install stdenv, if that's what you tried.
<Harekiet>
I put stdenv in my systempackages
<srhb>
Yeah, that's not how you should use it. You can launch it in a nix shell, or use it to build a derivation.
<srhb>
nix-shell --pure -p stdenv for instance
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<Harekiet>
complicated complicated :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqWD
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 07e0c0e Bas van Dijk: network-interfaces-scripted: fix NixOS/nixops#640...
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<hyper_ch>
Mic92: I just tested to encrypt the whole zfs pool and not just a dataset... it works all fine - that's what I used: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/a25a23df --> so I wonder if I should alter the wiki and add complete zpool encryption instead of encrypting a dataset
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<infinisil>
hyper_ch: there isn't really a difference between a pool (the top-level dataset) and another one
<hyper_ch>
infinisil: well, except you have to use -O
<hyper_ch>
and then every dataset on it is encrypted
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vFqlJ
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 821f2ea Bas van Dijk: network-interfaces-scripted: fix NixOS/nixops#640...
<infinisil>
Well that's just because it's a different command, there is nothing really special about the root dataset I'm tyring to say
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<joko>
Could anyone help me with icon themes? I'm getting the following error when I try to run pavucontrol: (pavucontrol:4534): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not load a pixbuf from icon theme. Gtk:ERROR:gtkiconhelper.c:493:ensure_surface_for_gicon: assertion failed: (destination)
<hyper_ch>
so I ponder, if you want enryption, you want probably encrypt-it-all... wouldn't it make more sense to encrypt the whole pool instead of just a dataset
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<CrazedProgrammer>
there are exactly 2000 issues on nixpkgs
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<hyper_ch>
freeze it now?
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<infinisil>
What. My arrow keys don't work in the terminal anymore -,-
<MichaelRaskin>
there is a «reset» command
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<ekleog>
FRidh[m]: just edited my comment on the CODEOWNERS rfc to make it clear I'm not trying to raise a debate over commit signing, please let me know if you feel another wording would be better :)
<freeman42x>
CrazedProgrammer: does the 2000th issue get any prize? haha
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<ahstro>
I'm trying to configure tmux but getting an error saying "the option `programs.tmux` [...] does not exist". I'm trying to use it with home-manager, do I need to prefix it with something or what can I do?
<CrazedProgrammer>
i don't think so, it was just a fun observation :)
<slabity>
I accidentally deleted my hardware-configuration.nix. Any way I can get it from the running system somehow?
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<MichaelRaskin>
slabity: did you edit it at all?
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<slabity>
MichaelRaskin: I think so, but I'm not 100% certain. I tried generating a new config, but I can'
<slabity>
can't seem to log in with the new profile.
<disasm>
CrazedProgrammer: I'm going to start running through a bunch now... probably not all 2000
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<slabity>
Nevermind, it ended up being unrelated.
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<hyper_ch>
slabity: restore it from backup?
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<ylwghst>
I've my user defined in configuration.nix and I need to change it's name If I change it there will it create new folder in home and the old one with leave or ?
<ylwghst>
will leave there*
<c0bw3b>
BTW does GitHub provide a rights level that allows applying labels (on PR & issues) and closing issues?
<c0bw3b>
without giving to right to push to the repos
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<c0bw3b>
some contributors might be willing to help triaging issues and PRs
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<samueldr>
nope, they don't
<c0bw3b>
meh :/ too bad
<samueldr>
yes, at the scale of nixpkgs it would be immensely useful
<VLetrmx>
or failing that can I force hydra to rebuild?
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<VLetrmx>
Since I have no OSX hardware
<MichaelRaskin>
c0bw3b: you shouldn't overestimate the project admins' paranoia for giving out commit access.
<MichaelRaskin>
We don't have an explicit policy recognizing that fact, which is a problem, of course.
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<c0bw3b>
MichaelRaskin :) ahah ok then I should ask for that commit right sometime soon... although i wouldn't trust myself with using git :p
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<MichaelRaskin>
The point is that knowing your limitations is more important than being able to do everything.
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<MichaelRaskin>
If you rebase on master, recheck that the diff is still sane, and push it (force push is prohibited on the repository side), you either succeed or fail without changes for the repository.
<MichaelRaskin>
And reviewing PRs can be done just fine with GitHub's merge button.
<c0bw3b>
Yes that's what I was assuming. Many small PRs can be dealt with through GH web interface
<MichaelRaskin>
Again, it is the question of knowing your experience — if you merge only things where you are completely sure, it is already a lot of help.
<MichaelRaskin>
Complicated stuff gets stuck in detailed discussions anyway. It's the stuff that gets zero feedback from committers that is a problem.
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<c0bw3b>
Right now I'm learning by doing some packaging and updates but I'll ask a commit right if I see I can dedicate some time to the repo
<toogley>
when i have a server in my local network (=no domain name), how would i generate a SSL certificate for a webserver? i guess sth like https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#idm140737316356144 with "hostname" instead of "git.example.com" doesn't work?
<MichaelRaskin>
As for git — well, you can practice on small updates where it is possible to rebase and test the rebased version on top of master before any dependency changes (so a failure doesn't break things)
<c0bw3b>
At least triaging issues and providing the usual insights on new PR (carefull mass-rebuild, rebase, etc...) could need some manpower
<MichaelRaskin>
We really really hope to eventually shift the mass-rebuild part to botpower.
<c0bw3b>
the counters of issues and PR always stucked at ~2.000 and ~500 is somewhat scary :p
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* gchristensen
is hacking on that as we speak
<c0bw3b>
Yes!
<MichaelRaskin>
c0bw3b: if they were _stuck_ it wouldn't be half as scary
<gchristensen>
fpletz: ping? any ideas on my fpm / php / nginx question?
<MichaelRaskin>
I remember personally losing the fight for 250 PRs.
<gchristensen>
c0bw3b: they used tobe "stuck" at 1500 and 270 :)
<c0bw3b>
Yes i remember it
<c0bw3b>
when i started using NixOS approx. 1 year ago ... i guess?
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<c0bw3b>
I've seen your bot in practice gchristensen on my recent G.Code cleaning PR
<samueldr>
I would love to help triaging, but I know I'm far from having a recognizable effort on the nixpkgs repo to warrant being given access
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: was any explicit policy re: commit acces discussed at NixCon?
<gchristensen>
no
<MichaelRaskin>
(sigh)
<gchristensen>
a lot of good stuff was discussed though :)
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<VLetrmx>
is it possible to tell hydra to rebuild?
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<gchristensen>
https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/20 is a personal favorite of mine. domen's talk triggered several patches from eelco, and eelco hinted at a closeby 1.12
<VLetrmx>
do I need some kind of hydra account to do that?
<MichaelRaskin>
Yes, for direct triggering
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<VLetrmx>
MichaelRaskin, cool, can I just create one myself?
<MichaelRaskin>
Nope.
<VLetrmx>
Kay, who do I need bribe^W ask to get one? :D
<MichaelRaskin>
I have been committing to the project for 10 years, and I don't have a Hydra account myself.
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<VLetrmx>
o
<VLetrmx>
oh well nevermind then :)
<gchristensen>
VLetrmx: link to the build? (not the drv)
<VLetrmx>
I'm trying to figure out why a handful of these lua bindings fail on mac, I think I found a fix, I just don't understand it yet :D
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Lassulus opened pull request #31003: gdm: don't start getty@tty1 if enabled (master...gdm-fixx) https://git.io/vFqEb
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<VLetrmx>
oh well, my friend has a mac at work says he'll try stuff tomorrow possibly
<gchristensen>
ok
<gchristensen>
I did restart it, but they're sick :(
<gchristensen>
sorry
<VLetrmx>
no worries, thanks anyway! :)
<c0bw3b>
what are the macOS build slaves used by hydra? are they someone mac mini running in a cave ? or rented mac pro?
<gchristensen>
no caves
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<gchristensen>
we have 11 mac minis
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<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: re: RFC20: how deliberate is it that there are no timeframes even for cases like «OSS-sec report carries a patch»?
<gchristensen>
MichaelRaskin: like how long it should take to repair?
<MichaelRaskin>
Yes.
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<c0bw3b>
whooh neat didn't know there was that many
<MichaelRaskin>
Also, you talk about responsibility for the issue being eventually fixed; what about the case like «libjpeg got 10 fuzz reports, nobody has a clue how to localise»?
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<gchristensen>
MichaelRaskin: it was an oversight for sure, can you put these on the RFC to help me track them?
<MichaelRaskin>
And nobody includes upstream and reporter,
<gchristensen>
oh?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, I don't remember details, we have seen a situation where a few crash-generating input sets were not handled in any reasonable timeframe by anyone out of set {reporter, upstream, large distros, NixOS}
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<gchristensen>
ah yes there are plentty
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<gchristensen>
I think much of that can be fleshed out in runbooks
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<rycee>
ahstro: There is no tmux module in Home Manager yet. So it cannot be configured directly (you can still do `home.file."path/to/tmux/config".source = ./mytmuxconfig;`, of course).
<ahstro>
rycee: That's the solution I went with. Thanks :) Kind of a bummer hm can't use the existing modules.
<JosW>
MoreTea, sorry just back home. No I am not in Munchen but still in Drenthe :)
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<JosW>
Just been anxious about the talk
<rycee>
Quick question, anybody recall seeing some more precise description of what is considered an acceptable derivation name? For example, I know it should not contain white space…
<rycee>
In the Nix manual I found "There must be an attribute named name whose value must be a string" which is a bit vague ;-)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vFq2q
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 e7842be lassulus: gdm: don't start getty@tty1 if enabled...
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<c0bw3b>
rycee: what about the nixpkgs manual?
<gchristensen>
no `/`
<rycee>
My specific use case is that I have a random string and want to massage it into an acceptable derivation name.
<samueldr>
url encoding might do?
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<samueldr>
(this way it's reversible, and well-known)
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<MichaelRaskin>
Or just base32
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<samueldr>
would base32 mangle the parts that don't need encoding? (if relevant for the use case)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #31004: Revert "fetchzip and friends: Set "name" to "source" by default" (staging...revert-fetch-name) https://git.io/vFq2w
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<rycee>
I wanted it to look reasonably understandable so that when the store paths flash by you can see which file belongs where.
<toogley>
hm. i try to use a selfsigned certificate with nginx. i don't use ACME, since i don't have a valid domain name (=the server only runs on my local network). but when the nginx service is started, its been asked the certificate password when it wants to read. since nginx doesn't know my password, it fails. how can i fix that? how can i tell nginx my password? or should i even do that? i mean, ACME certificates
<toogley>
don't seem to require a password
<samueldr>
how'd you generate the cert?
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<samueldr>
(there are a couple of ways if made manually)
<toogley>
and i need that certificate/encryption for taskwarrior, which doesn't seem to run without a certificate
<samueldr>
I'm checking my notes from an (non-nix) automated deployment thing I did
<samueldr>
which uses self-signed certs
<dysrupti0n>
this may be a stupid question. I've installed ruby via nix-env and want a ruby gem i've installed via `gem` to be on the path. how do I do this?
<toogley>
seanparsons: works, thanks. :)
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<samueldr>
pretty sure I'm not him :)
<samueldr>
you're welcome though
<seanparsons>
toogley: Wat.
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<toogley>
seanparsons: ooh, sorry. i meant samueldr not you.
<samueldr>
I had to find out what exactly -nodes did
<samueldr>
do you'd know, in case it reduces security
<samueldr>
it does, in some ways
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<equalunique[m]>
Anyone here ever connect a 4K display to their NixOS machine running logind/KDE and only be able to select a max resolution of 1280x1024?
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<fpletz>
gchristensen: you can use "display_errors = stderr" in the php.ini
<fpletz>
gchristensen: services.phpfpm.phpOptions
<samueldr>
equalunique[m]: with the same cable, display and machine, were you able to do 4k?
<equalunique[m]>
samueldr: I wish I could do 4k via selecting it from the Displays menu in KDE settings. Can't go any higher than 1280x1024 for some strange reason. Also, xrandr won't tell me the name of the display, so I can't use an xrandr command to set the resolution either...
<Ralith>
equalunique: he's asking if you were able to get 4k using exactly the same hardware but a different software setup in the past
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<samueldr>
yes, but did it work with the same computer, display and cable on another operating system?
<samueldr>
cable seems like a weird question, but going up to 4k the cable WILL matter
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<samueldr>
and a common behaviour when the host system or the cable is not good enough, is to only be able to use smaller resolutions
<vcunat>
If you anticipate some other mass-rebuild security patch within a day or two, please ping me explicitly. I hope I gathered all with PRs currently and testing them briefly locally.
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<equalunique[m]>
samueldr: I'll take your advice and try with Ubuntu. Just using the same HDMI cable that was included with the display. Thanks!
<samueldr>
oh, then the cable will probably be good
<samueldr>
what is the GPU?
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<toogley>
samueldr: well i use it only in my local network, on my private server. so that's not very problematic
<toogley>
samueldr: but thanks :)
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<equalunique[m]>
samueldr GPU is one GT 1030. Max resolution is over 4K. It has one DVI port and one HDMI port.
<samueldr>
are you using the proprietary drivers with nixos?
<samueldr>
your card is part of NV130 in this table
<samueldr>
there's a lot of orange and red
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqoP
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master cdf059f Joerg Thalheim: fetchbzr: do not write logs to non-existing home
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<samueldr>
jophish__: no experience with linode, do you have per chance a way to see the boot logs, or serial console?
<equalunique[m]>
samueldr: Good call! Somehow I got to believing that this card would be sufficient. Not sure how I overlooked that. Now how to get nixos to switch over to the nvidia proprietary drivers...
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<jophish__>
samueldr: sadly there's nothing too useful in there, it doesn't even seem to get past grub
<jophish__>
grub failed with "unknown variable prefix"
<jophish__>
I'm going to run the install from the top one more time
<samueldr>
equalunique[m]: pretty sure you'lle need to `systemctl restart display-manager` after adding what's in the manual chapter I linked
<samueldr>
ah, though it's a good step jophish__, it's something with grub
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] florianjacob opened pull request #31006: Improvements for Prosody (master...prosody) https://git.io/vFqK9
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging d266a45 Tim Steinbach: perl: 5.24.2 -> 5.24.3
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #30990: libarchive: Fixes for CVE-2017-14166 and CVE-2017-14502 (staging...libarchive-cves) https://git.io/vFqtC
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<tilpner>
There's probably lots of prettier ways, betaboon
<betaboon>
tilpner: just arived at that solution xD
<betaboon>
or a close one xD
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<abulfone>
Hello.
<tilpner>
Hi!
<ylwghst>
hey
<ldlework>
Yo!
<abulfone>
I have Nix installed on my macbook and decided to dual boot with NixOS. Now I have a dedicated nix partition and would like to use it for both installations.
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<ylwghst>
abulfone: that will be interessting :-)
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<tilpner>
IIRC it's hard (impossible?) to avoid inaccurate GC when sharing /nix
<ylwghst>
abulfone: you will need 3 partitions
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, I guess only source tarballs will be reused.
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<betaboon>
abulfone: like using the same nix-store for both nixos and macos installation ?
<MichaelRaskin>
tilpner: what't the problem? It's dual boot, two sides are never active at once.
<tilpner>
MichaelRaskin - Something about being unable to track indirect roots on unmounted partitions
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, as long as all GC-pinning sy,links are actually profiles
<ylwghst>
ylwghst: respectively 4 partitions will be on your disk in total
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<MichaelRaskin>
Or you can also share /home/
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<ylwghst>
abulfone: 1. propably have already and it's Apple EFI firmware partition
<ylwghst>
abulfone: 2nd for macOS
<MichaelRaskin>
But yes, if you add indirect roots that are not visible in one OS, GC will just delete the targets
<ylwghst>
abulfone: 3rd will be for your NixOS bootloader that will be propably grub2 or you can use systemd-boot too
<ylwghst>
abulfone: and 4th will be NixOS root partiton
<betaboon>
i have to finish my nixos-refind implementation at some point, when moving my new workstation to refind ;)
<ylwghst>
betaboon: that is best
<ylwghst>
betaboon: i do use same haha
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<betaboon>
ylwghst: just got an HP spectre x360 as my new main workmachine. macbook is now in the hack-lab xD
<ylwghst>
betaboon: i got everything working on it nowadays :-)
<betaboon>
trusty old aluminum-brick
<disasm>
vcunat: we have two more mass rebuild security issues for staging in the morning (at least)
<betaboon>
yeah same here. i had that macbook running on gentoo for 6 years. ran great. but now with nixos on it, it became even more convenient
<ylwghst>
betaboon: i see.. mine isn't pro i got white unibody
<disasm>
vcunat: oh wait, you merged already :) thanks!
<vcunat>
disasm: :-)
<betaboon>
ylwghst: don't those have the problem on the bottom? I got mine the 16GB ram, 1tb hdd, 256gb ssd upgrade. that thing has been everywhere :D
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<ylwghst>
betaboon: i had serious problems to get gpu wroking because nouveau is bit unstable with nvidia geforce 320m, it was crashing with some apps (fifo error) and even get nvidia's legacy 340 driver was very hard to get work due to kind of unusual chipsets on mac (black screen after starting X)
<ylwghst>
betaboon: what do you mean exactly? mine is in very good condition
<betaboon>
ylwghst: the bottom white rubber has been getting detached/bubbles due to heat and a "faulty" glue on several devices that i have seen. they even had a recall-program for that problem
<ylwghst>
betaboon: 256GB ssd and 8GB ram upgrade and still without cracks anywhere
<ylwghst>
betaboon: i had two of them and this had not this problem
<ylwghst>
betaboon: actually it's not glued
<betaboon>
ylwghst: the only reason i even got a macbook in the first place, was that the notebook before died due to heat and insufficient heat-sinks ...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFqD8
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 25515ce Vladimír Čunát: libav_11: security 11.10 -> 11.11...
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<ylwghst>
betaboon: i guess these problems were on older models
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vFqD6
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 a31cc11 Vladimír Čunát: libav_11: security 11.10 -> 11.11...
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<ylwghst>
betaboon: mid 2010 has unibody enclosure it is the last white
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.03: https://git.io/vFqyT
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.03 6233be8 Vladimír Čunát: libav_11: security 11.10 -> 11.11...
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<chrishill>
Hey guys, I’m trying to install an older version of Xkbcomp. According to `nix-env` etc. both the latest version 1.4.0 and the previous version 1.3.1 is available. But I’m not sure, since I’m not able to use any attribute path for it.
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<chrishill>
So I’m not sure if I can install it directly
<chrishill>
The reason I am trying to install an older version is because one of my scripts seem to be acting differently than before, and not in a good way.
<vcunat>
you need to have a channel or git checkout that does contain the older version
<vcunat>
BTW, why do you want an older version?
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<chrishill>
vcunat: explained it two up
<chrishill>
vcunat: is it possible to use another channel for a specific package only?
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<chrishill>
Another channel should work since the change seems to have come after I upgraded my NixOS
<ylwghst>
chrishill: you can override its source
<vcunat>
chrishill: if you want to see attribute paths, add `-P` to your `nix-env -qa` invocation
<ylwghst>
chrishill: you can fetch source from github or from url
<chrishill>
vcunat: yeah I include the -P flag now when querying nix-env. But copy–pasting it doesn’t always work. I probably don’t understand attributes enough yet.
<chrishill>
ylwghst: thanks ☺
<ylwghst>
i cant find xkbcomp in nixpkgs
<ylwghst>
theres only 1.4.0
<vcunat>
it's xorg.xkbcomp
<ylwghst>
i see
<vcunat>
as usual, we only keep one version at once
<vcunat>
I guess it would be nice to (also) debug that and either fix your definitions or contact upstream.
<chrishill>
vcunat: Nice, thanks 👍
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar created darwin-parallel (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vFqSg
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/darwin-parallel 5d128c7 Domen Kožar: darwin: build applle stuff in parallel
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<MP2E>
(as a related sidenote, even though Nix can easily package multiple versions of the same package, we often don't because it bumps up nixpkgs evaluation time)
<chrishill>
Yeah I should report upstream if downgrading it fixes it
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar opened pull request #31013: darwin: build applle stuff in parallel (master...darwin-parallel) https://git.io/vFqSV
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<chrishill>
MP2E: That’s useful for me to note for future reference, thanks
<boomshroom>
Sorry about leaving earlier. I was walking and it disconected, after which I decided I would wait until getting home.
<vcunat>
the evaluation time certainly isn't the main reason
<chrishill>
I sometimes get confused since it seems that `nix-env -qaP` seems to report more versions than are really available on my channel.
<vcunat>
It's the human time spent on maintenance that's the worst
<MP2E>
I remember that being a concern earlier :P
<MP2E>
ah
<MP2E>
that makes sense
<vcunat>
(including testing, problems due to different people using different versions, etc.)
<vcunat>
chrishill: it probably sees multiple channels
<vcunat>
you can have a look at your ~/.nix-defexpr/
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<vcunat>
(it's easy to "unintentionally" have more of them)
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<boomshroom>
looking through the logs, I may have accidently used my university ID as my screen name.
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<boomshroom>
I was the one trying to share a nix partition across multiple installations on my macbook.
<boomshroom>
Now that I have my desktop with me, I should be able to simply use copy-closure
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<dtzWill>
idk why I torture myself by following 1.12 nix commits, SO MUCH AWESOME QQ
<dtzWill>
:P
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] wizeman reopened pull request #29250: pulseaudio: enable by default in NixOS if sound is enabled (master...pulseaudio-by-default) https://git.io/v51m2
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<tilpner>
dtzWill - Why is it torture?
<disasm>
tilpner: waiting for it to become the standard :)
<tilpner>
But you can use it already!
<tilpner>
(nix edit is pretty nice)
<chrishill>
ylwghst: I think the simplest thing might be to subscribe to the stable 16.09 channel for the Nix expression, since I think that one has the old version of Xbkcomp that I want.
<ylwghst>
chrishill: it's not necesseary you don't have to if it has another dependencies
<ylwghst>
chrishill: w8
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<ylwghst>
chrishill: do you have source? do you know where is available?
<chrishill>
More concretely, I thave a Nix expression that I can use to run a nix-shell in order to run the script that I need. So I guess it would be optimal if I could subscribe to the old channel when evaluating that Nix exp
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<chrishill>
Do you mean for Xkbcomp? It is nixpkgs/pkgs/servers/x11/xorg
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<dtzWill>
tilpner: nixUnstable in user profile, nixStable as system daemon? or...? :)
<tilpner>
dtzWill - nixUnstable everywhere \o/
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<dtzWill>
(I did that for a while (what I suggested) but for some reason stopped :3)
<dtzWill>
tilpner: teehee excellent
<chrishill>
ylwghst: Xbkcomp was upgraded to the latest version in commit 1823113f8792
<ylwghst>
chrishill: source ode from another mirror not from nixpkgs
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<chrishill>
ylwghst: I haven’t tried that before. Sorry ☹
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<chrishill>
You mean from the nix-channels? I’m out of my depths here