<gchristensen>
Ericson2314: hi O.S's website does worse than usual in lynx btw :)
<Ericson2314>
@gchristiansen heh I noticed something similar today. It's odd because while the DOM can be fully constructed by JS, it's prerended too. We have a new thing comming up which the JS takes over, rather than replaces, the prerended DOM. Maybe that will help.
<gchristensen>
hmm maybe you should try it :)
<gchristensen>
Ericson2314: specifically since there is no content-type header, lynx just displays the source code
<Ericson2314>
Oh hmm when I tried I got like blank page of something
<Ericson2314>
I wasn't really sure what was going on, tbh
<gchristensen>
ah
<gchristensen>
anyway... far past my bed time. g'night :)
<Ericson2314>
I'll let people know. Thanks Graham and good night :)
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<sphalerite>
etu: just did the signing thing :)
* etu
has mail
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<manveru>
is there actually any editor that can efficiently work on a 15G file?
<manveru>
other than ed :P
<Taneb>
sed? ;P
<Taneb>
Honestly at that size I think using a visual editor is pointless
<manveru>
hexedit seems fine with it
<manveru>
it's almost graphical :)
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<manveru>
looks like it can only replace characters :(
<sphalerite>
manveru: sounds like an appropriate challenge for Xi :D
<joepie91>
gchristensen: tried a full discharge and recharge?
<joepie91>
gchristensen: also, is this an XPS?
<gchristensen>
it is
<joepie91>
gchristensen: hmm... using it on AC a lot by any chance?
<gchristensen>
sure, about 80% of the time
<joepie91>
gchristensen: does it ever give you a notification that it's on battery power, despite still being plugged into AC, and then after it's dropped a few % magically go back onto AC and charging again?
<gchristensen>
not that I've noticed
<joepie91>
gchristensen: hm, I think they didn't port over the battery saving feature from the Latitude series then :( which would explain your battery capacity
<joepie91>
so the Latitudes have a system where once every few weeks or so, it disables AC for a while and partially discharges the battery
<joepie91>
then at a set point it re-engages charging
<joepie91>
this keeps the battery healthy
<joepie91>
but it shows on Linux as a disconnect and reconnect after a while
<gchristensen>
oh cool
<joepie91>
if it indeed doesn't have that, I'd recommend letting it discharge nearly entirely every two weeks or so, and charging it back up again, and that should keep it healthy
<gchristensen>
I can do that
<joepie91>
might even improve it over your current max
<gchristensen>
discharge to shutdown?
<joepie91>
and yeah, it's a very neat system
<joepie91>
gchristensen: well it depends on the battery, I don't know what the XPS batteries are like
<etu>
joepie91: Hmm, I think TLP can do that
<gchristensen>
:)
<joepie91>
nearly-empty is probably safer than empty
<gchristensen>
eh, it gets to about 10% each day
<joepie91>
hm, try fully empty then :P
<joepie91>
etu: TLP?
<etu>
Make it stop charging when it's close to max and then let it down a bit and start charging
<gchristensen>
(work-time plugged in, evening/morning it gets low)
<gchristensen>
joepie91: maybe I shouldn't be compiling 8 cores at 100% for 6 hours each day?
<joepie91>
etu: huh, didn't know about that. if that does the battery saving as well, that might be a nice automated option
<joepie91>
gchristensen: should be fine tbh
<joepie91>
these sort of cells generally remain more healthy the more they are discharged and recharged
<gchristensen>
ok good `cuz I do r13y rebuilds on this thing
<etu>
woo
<etu>
Charge = 98.2 [%]
<etu>
Capacity = 59.9 [%]
<etu>
:D
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<ldlework>
gchristensen: send me a screenshot when you get a nice genned theme going
<gchristensen>
I don't have one at all, and haven't really tried
<gchristensen>
to be honest I was trying to extract from a screenshot of sakura, the colors it uses to import in to urxvt
<ldlework>
Well that's what it's for
<ldlework>
:P
<gchristensen>
it did a pretty poor job, haha
<ldlework>
well there's only a bunch of ways to tweak the result
<__monty__>
joepie91: Isn't limited cycles the big thing with lipos?
<joepie91>
__monty__: afaik laptop batteries use a slightly different chemistry (forgot the name) that can do more cycles
<__monty__>
All I know is from this paper they did on lipo or lithium-ion batteries. Extremes were terrible, so don't go below 30% charge, nor above 80% and cycles were detrimental as well so always charge/discharge for that full permitted range.
<averell>
you get most cycles if it's kept between 20 and 80% charged, but i guess with 8h compiling temperature is the biggest problem
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: there's definitely some weird smart stuff it does which you can configure to some extent in the firmware settings
<gchristensen>
sphalerite: ohhh?
<gchristensen>
do go on
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: I don't know any more than that, sorry :p check the firmware settings, I don't have my XPS anymore :)
<gchristensen>
interesting
<gchristensen>
what hapenned to your xps?
<lejonet>
rage?
<sphalerite>
sold it, because my work laptop covers my laptop needs
<gchristensen>
ah
<gchristensen>
ah, hrm
<sphalerite>
(to my dad. With NixOS on it. :D )
<etu>
sphalerite: That's one way to create new users ;D
<gchristensen>
mayflower is probably cool with it, but becareful doing personal stuff on work-owned laptops :)
<etu>
gchristensen: It differs from country to country a bit as well
<gchristensen>
ah yeah
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: I was encouraged to use it for personal stuff :)
<gchristensen>
nice
<gchristensen>
I would love to use my work laptop for everything :)
* etu
is wonders if mayflower accepts remote working positions
<sphalerite>
(reasoning being I'm more likely to set everything up such that I can work most effectively with it)
* lejonet
only has a laptop for the few times a year he actually travels somewhere
<etu>
lejonet: Rent? :D
<sphalerite>
etu: not so much unfortunately, and how good is your German? :p
<gchristensen>
wtf my Thundertbolt Cable can receive firmware updates? aaaaa
<joepie91>
lol
<sphalerite>
gchristensen: welcome to the wonderful world of active cables!
<lejonet>
etu: could maybe be a solution :P
<etu>
sphalerite: 1) Meh. 2) Terrible
<gchristensen>
get me out of this hellscape
<lejonet>
sphalerite: Jahwol!
<joepie91>
gchristensen: Smart Cables Of Things
<etu>
CoT -- The S stands for Secure :p
<lejonet>
gchristensen: ofc it can, how else would they be able to update the spyware? Those systems aren't easy to maintain... ;)
<gchristensen>
with good ol' fashioned CPU-level implants
<{^_^}>
zfsonlinux/zfs#8419 (by behlendorf, 1 week ago, open): Add TRIM support
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<sphalerit>
oooh exciting
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<gchristensen>
I might just erase this laptop and install windows this evening just so I can update the firmware on this dock, to try and make it work
<samueldr>
depending on how you feel on using closed-source build of "something", this could be more practical? https://www.hirensbootcd.org/
<samueldr>
the FAQ describes how this is legal
<samueldr>
(though I can't vouch for anything about security)
<gchristensen>
"Why am I getting a virus warning for a file downloaded from your website?" god I love this so much
<gchristensen>
websites that say "it isn't a virus, promise!"
<samueldr>
(which is fun since is happens even to legit windows things :/)
<samueldr>
yeah, I was just throwing that around
<samueldr>
I imagine you could do the same with a PE or "windows to go" environment
<samueldr>
(though whew I don't think this is the right crowd for input on those :D)
<gchristensen>
:)
<gchristensen>
it is a good tip, thank you
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<andi->
I started migrating my weechat configuration to nixos and first things was figuring out how to deal with the scripts and /upgrade.. In case someone whats to provide some early feedback before I get to creating a PR here it is: https://gist.github.com/andir/e47ad8df72f8004be66e916cfea2c45e
<{^_^}>
#56294 (by aanderse, 3 days ago, open): Remove winstone package and module?
<andi->
aanderse: thanks for the reminder, will take care of it later
<aanderse>
andi-: np. thank you!
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<gchristensen>
snapshotable filesystems are really good
<mdash>
xfs supports snapshots now, doesn't it?
<gchristensen>
not sure
<gchristensen>
being able to snapshot a FS and do a differential xfer to another host is really nice, though
<mdash>
ok xfs has reflink now, so only per-file snapshots
<mdash>
not as good
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<elvishjerricco>
Sad that ZFS doesn't have reflink though.
<gchristensen>
what is reflink?
<elvishjerricco>
gchristensen: `cp --reflink` will copy a file without writing new data, using the file system's CoW mechanism if it supports it. Btrfs supports it, but basically nothing else does
<elvishjerricco>
except I guess xfs now
<gchristensen>
neat
<elvishjerricco>
Yea I'd really like it if 1) ZFS supported it, and 2) you could make it the default for cp.
<gchristensen>
hehe, yes
<gchristensen>
(hrm. I can't install Windows... maybe I'll go buy a Windows laptop for an evening, so I can upgrade this thing's firmware)
<elvishjerricco>
gchristensen: You need windows to update your firmware?
<gchristensen>
evidently
<elvishjerricco>
That's for the xps?
<gchristensen>
for a Dell TB16 dock
<andi->
Haven't dealt with those docks yet but in the past I used `wimlib` to create a custom windows image (for an USB stick) where I'd just install the drivers after booting the livecd and then launching whatever update tool the vendor supplied.. Worked decently on thinkpads.
<elvishjerricco>
Ah. Thunderbolt is sweet. Though apparently it's a vulnerability now. On most systems, you can just plug something into a thunderbolt port and get direct memory access.
<gchristensen>
that has *always* been true
<elvishjerricco>
I know physical access == pwned, but it shouldn't be THAT easy :P
<gchristensen>
I've known this was true since the first thunderbolt devices came out
<gchristensen>
it is what you get when PCI is exposed as a cable
<gchristensen>
I think the only useful and novel thing the vulnerability is doing is informing the public
<elvishjerricco>
I think that in theory IOMMU is supposed to be able to protect you from it, but supposedly it's still not perfect
<gchristensen>
s/perfect/used
<elvishjerricco>
that too
<elvishjerricco>
could a linux user configure their system to use IOMMU to protect themselves?
<gchristensen>
in most BIOSes there is a thunderbolt security option which requires positively confirming you want to allow the thunderbolt device to connect
<gchristensen>
I think this is why apple computers require thunderbolt devices to be made by apple
<gchristensen>
andi-: wimlib, eh?
<gchristensen>
I've tried using dosbox and WinPE so far, but I need to install thunderbolt drivers to do it, and neither of those support them
<andi->
gchristensen: have you tried just booting an installer image and launching the cmd.exe? That also used to work sometimes
<gchristensen>
you can do that?
<andi->
Yeah since WindowsXP or something.. alt+f6 IIRC
* gchristensen
reboots
<andi->
let me google that for you
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<andi->
shift+F10 it seems
<gchristensen>
"This verison of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computer's system information and then contact the software publisher." :)
<andi->
tableflip...
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<samueldr>
:/ OEMs not playing ball
<samueldr>
proprietary hardware is tiring :(
<andi->
i think that might be more towards the updated being a 32bit executable and the instlaler being 64bit only?
<samueldr>
my statement was more general, thinking how a self-contained system to update those firmwares would probably be worthwhile
<samueldr>
like... never assume the software on a user's computer works
<gchristensen>
participating in fwupd would be a good step
<samueldr>
apparently the actual *thunderbolt* bios bit in the dock can be updated from linux, but not the other biosen part of the device... because sure it needs more than 1 :/
<andi->
oh yeah.. I saw a recent thinkpad model being supported for most of the updates that come from lenovo/intel.. The future isn't as bad as I always think..
<andi->
I also don't get how we can have clickable shiny UEFI Bios Implementaitons that aren't able to run firmware updates (from USB-Sticks anymore).
<samueldr>
some people are peeved at fwupd, e.g. system76 don't want to work with them because it "leaks" their install base numbers
<samueldr>
*allegedly
<andi->
lol
<gchristensen>
they can host their own sources
<samueldr>
my 2012 HP UEFI can update itself from USB
<samueldr>
within the UEFI
<andi->
thats exatly my point.. we used to have that..
<andi->
it was borked at first, got better then removed
<andi->
a coworker recently spent a day installing to some recent Dell XPS since that wouldn't boot in EFI mode from just any USB stick at any port... Just USB3 sticks on one specific port... I am not sure what those vendors are thinking.
<samueldr>
are they?
<andi->
sometimes, are there advertisements in the bootscreen yet?
<jasongrossman>
Mm. I'm not happy with System76 about that.
<gchristensen>
andi-: ah, a bit wrong on that, if it was the 9380
<andi->
gchristensen: it was some fancy 2-in-1 XPS.. no idea about the numbers
<gchristensen>
andi-: b/c the 9380 will only boot to USB disks plugged in to the right-side USB-C USB-2.0 port