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<apache8080> does buildLinux support cross compiling? I tried hardcoding kernelArch but that didn't work
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<Venom668> Oh my god.
<Venom668> u-boot on SD card, OS on eMMC made suspend to ram work
<Venom668> probably u-boot on SPI would work too
<Venom668> while having both u-boot and os on emmc doesn't work
<Venom668> Thank you for your work, samueldr
<Venom668> It's really helpful <3
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<samueldr> Venom668: I would hazard a guess that u-boot's location changes nothing, and that it must have been OS on SD card that was at fault
<samueldr> though... odd!
<samueldr> if you are able to test eMMC holding both u-boot and OS, that would be helpful, if you're not, then no probme
<samueldr> no problem*
<Venom668> I had u-boot and os on emmc for past few days while trying to get s2r working
<Venom668> meanwhile juggling kernels and uboots
<samueldr> it seems odd that the location u-boot loaded from would change anything here with what I know
<samueldr> but I don't know anything that disproves it either
<clever> samueldr: solved one of the rpi bootloader bugs, linux is now able to print "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." but then it goes silent after that
<Venom668> yes, very weird
<samueldr> clever: your open bootloader?
<clever> yeah
<samueldr> firmware* :)
<clever> both
<samueldr> yeah
<clever> its currently a custom firmware, with a custom bootloader
<clever> whats the smallest youve gotten tow-boot down to?
<samueldr> haven't tried to do anything like minimizing
<samueldr> my focus has been making it the best user experience first
<clever> i dont really have any size limits right now, so that works out fine
<samueldr> minimizing the size would probably require removing UX features... and in that case it's more of a U-Boot project :)
<clever> -rwxr-xr-x 1 clever users 619K May 17 03:11 u-boot.bin
<clever> thats probably an ok size
<clever> in theory, if we just add a custom board type (variant of rpi), it could boot on a pi2
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<clever> but the firmware provided DT will be missing
<clever> so it will be more like a traditional uboot
<samueldr> which is fine I guess
<clever> going to try and fix linux first, then we could look into that
<samueldr> there's never going to be a "right" time to say it, but officially speaking, the place for NixOS on ARM discussion is now https://matrix.to/#/!RjBlCIbsLDzHBIzmaA:nixos.org?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=nordgedanken.dev
<samueldr> welp, I don't like that "via" crap at the end
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<clever> now i have to install a new client!
<hexa-> samueldr: that's because it needs a homeserver that already knows the room to introduce it to other homeservers
<hexa-> also !RjBlCIbsLDzHBIzmaA:nixos.org, such a nice name
<samueldr> hexa-: oh uh
<samueldr> that's just so confusing
<samueldr> it makes it look like a tracker link
<hexa-> fwiw: I use self-hosted element-web in firefox in a pinned tab
<hexa-> but there is also https://chat.nixos.org
<samueldr> clever: ^ this is the discussion about the situation if you hadn't been made aware
<hexa-> but you'd still need a homeserver, because nixos.org doesn't allow registrations for the greater public
<hexa-> because $$$$
<samueldr> yeah
<gchristensen> $2/user :x
<clever> samueldr: i was online when the /kill happened, but havent heard what nixos's plans are
<gchristensen> ,matrix
<{^_^}> Join us on Matrix at our space: https://matrix.to/#/!MKvhXlSTLGJUXpYuWF:nixos.org?via=nixos.org or #nix:nixos.org
<hexa-> see, 4 users = $$$$2
<samueldr> https://matrix.to/#/!RjBlCIbsLDzHBIzmaA:nixos.org?via=nixos.org <- for nixos on arm
<samueldr> in case your client doesn't do spaces
<gchristensen> ,matrix = https://matrix.to/#/#community:nixos.org or #nix:nixos.org
<{^_^}> matrix redefined, was defined as Join us on Matrix at our space: https://matrix.to/#/!MKvhXlSTLGJUXpYuWF:nixos.org?via=nixos.org or #nix:nixos.org
<clever> samueldr: element-desktop fails to do oauth based login
* samueldr is still on the web client
<samueldr> I might actually not stop using the web client, only because at least it shares memory with the browser
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<hexa-> gchristensen: in community.nixos.org if and when we find a good page to redirect users to?
<hexa-> I'm not quite sure how I could register my element-web instance with the element:// url handler
<gchristensen> I don't think I understand the question
<hexa-> uh, I just thought https://community.nixos.org would be something easier to remember and link to
<gchristensen> ah
<gchristensen> cool idea
<clever> samueldr: ok, first problem, i registered with google oauth, now i cant set a password, because i dont know my password.....
<samueldr> sorry, I'm not really good with matrix stuff
<clever> "confirm your identity"...., i dont see a button for that in the other client? .....
<clever> ah, there
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<hexa-> not all clients support all authentication flows :D
<clever> hexa-: they also hide it well
<hexa-> you make it sound like that#s a feature :)
<gchristensen> ,spaces
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<superherointj> Hello.
<superherointj> Is 'isoinfo' available under a different name? https://linux.die.net/man/8/isoinfo
<LinuxHackerman> ,locate isoinfo
<{^_^}> Found in packages: cdrkit, cdrtools
<sphalerite> superherointj: ^
<superherointj> Thanks
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<leonardp> are there any plans on migrating this channel to matrix?
<leonardp> i used my scrollwheel
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<DomenKoar[m]> see you all @ matrix
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<makefu> what is the current favorite client to connect to matrix which i preferably can just enable in nixos?
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<hexa-> makefu: if you want support for spaces, that is probably element
<hexa-> I don't suppose there is a list of matrix clients compared by featureset somewhere (wikipedia?)
<henrik-ch> Is there no equivalent to #nixos-aarch64 on Matrix? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kFDh62s9/Screenshot%202021-05-20%20at%2016.35.06.png
<hexa-> yep, NixOS On ARM
<hexa-> just search for ARM
<phant0m> you'll need to search the nixos.org server I think?
<hexa-> ah right ^
<hexa-> you seem to be searching on matrix.org currently
<hexa-> because we don't have nixos-azure on nixos.org :)
<henrik-ch> thank you for the help - I hadn't joined matrix spaces beta - all sorted 🙂
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<samueldr> NixOS on ARM on the nixos.org matrix space: https://matrix.to/#/!RjBlCIbsLDzHBIzmaA:nixos.org?via=nixos.org
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<superherointj> samueldr, add Matrix to the headline.
<samueldr> I can't
<samueldr> channel operators can
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<Mindavi> Who's best to tag on cross-compilation PRs? Or should I just have some patience? :)
<samueldr> Mindavi: depends on whether it's a leaf package fix, or a foundational fix
<samueldr> foundational, I guess you could do worse than Ericson2314 and matthewbauer
<samueldr> leaf packages, that package maintainer, or ecosystem maintainer really
<Mindavi> Thanks :)
<superherointj> Mindavi, which PR?
<Mindavi> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/123549 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/123712, but I have some more fixes that still needs some cleanup
<{^_^}> #123549 (by Mindavi, 2 days ago, open): libsoup: support cross by disabling gobject-introspection and vala
<{^_^}> #123712 (by Mindavi, 1 day ago, open): harfbuzz: cross compilation
<Mindavi> They're typically 'foundational' because I'm trying to upstream the work to get sway cross-compiling
<samueldr> yeah, those are "in-between"
<samueldr> more into ecosystem than foundational (e.g. stdenv, compilers)
<Mindavi> Which I did succeed in, but there's some parts that I can't solve without shelling out to qemu
<Mindavi> Mm, then I'll try to find the right persons for them
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<clever> elvishjerricco: was looking over the eeprom commit history, 2021-03-22 added support for [cm4] in the config files, so if versions are mixed around, different things can apply at diff times in the boot
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<elvishjerricco> clever: Does that matter if I'm using a config file with no [<pi model>] stuff?
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<clever> elvishjerricco: thats why i was wanting to test with all of those conditions removed
<elvishjerricco> clever: Yea, I've had those conditions removed in all my tests this week
<elvishjerricco> I gave up on netboot; it seems like start4.elf has just always been fundamentally flawed and there's nothing I can do about it short of disassembling it and hoping it doesn't need a major rewrite of the netboot code.
<clever> elvishjerricco: try rpiboot next then
<elvishjerricco> So back to sd card shuffling and trying to work out why u-boot can't use the usb port
<elvishjerricco> hm?
<elvishjerricco> oh
<elvishjerricco> that's interesting
<clever> if you have a 3 in the BOOT_ORDER, it can pull files from the rpiboot program
<clever> over the usb cable
<clever> but the CM4 will be in gadget mode, so you cant really test the host mode features
<clever> but you can at least build and get logs
<elvishjerricco> well the logs I need have to do with using the usb ports in host mode, no?
<clever> it may still give useful logs
<clever> also, is it an emmc model?
<elvishjerricco> no
<clever> your only option left then is to either open a ticket to complain, or keep swapping cards
<elvishjerricco> swapping cards isn't so bad
<elvishjerricco> at least I can do it all from my desk with uart
<elvishjerricco> before, I had to cross the room and use an annoying tv as a monitor :P
<clever> you got a button on the RUN header?
<elvishjerricco> I assume not because I don't know what that is :P
<clever> there is a header with 3 pins, RUN, GND, and GLOBAL_EN
<clever> if you take a reset/power button from an old x86 case, and put it between RUN and GND
<clever> then you can hard reset the pi, by just whacking the button
<clever> i hit that after putting the card in, after a swap
<elvishjerricco> nice
<elvishjerricco> clever: I'm assuming that's the two on the left here? GND isn't labeled. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lBr0xU5R/IMG_4385.JPG
<clever> yep, those
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<clever> the middle one is gnd
<clever> and the 2 sides are as labeled
<clever> RUN is the main reset pin for the entire SoC