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<evils> btw, NixOS was mentioned on the most recent PineTalk episode: https://youtu.be/bncCJkvuPMg?t=2602
<samueldr> evils: mentioned why?
<samueldr> (sorry, I really don't do well with listening)
<colemickens> :/ read a bunch, couldn't get an image built.
<colemickens> that's the summary.
<evils> they correctly identified the NixOS logo as a snowflake :D
<colemickens> drat. maybe once the blocker in mobile-nixos is closed I will try to demo it to them or something
<samueldr> ah, the incidental gatekeeping of "it's not ready so I'm not yet making it trivially easy to run"
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<samueldr> which isn't great btw
<evils> viewer submitted a question, asking if (i think the hosts) have tried it
<samueldr> thanks for noticing, evils :)
<evils> they mention they doubt "amethfish or ziglo" are available for nixos, and you'd have to be a nix wizard to package everything you'd want on your phone
<evils> also make the fairly sensible suggestion of trying out nixos elsewhere first
<samueldr> are you alright? something stuck in the throat? what's an amethfish or a ziglo? ;)
<evils> no idea!
<samueldr> amethfish I assume angelfish?
<evils> i think one of the hosts is german
<samueldr> and yeah, Mobile NixOS has seen *so much* less development than other non-android linux distros :)
<evils> we have angelfish :D
<samueldr> especially development towards the end-user bits
<samueldr> we didn't until recently
<samueldr> it's kind of frustrating that the important part I worked on are totally hidden from view :)
<evils> gonna post something on their discord channel
<samueldr> they only are obvious if you know about NixOS and the need for generations
<samueldr> evils: "something" like what?
<evils> "yes, it's a snowflake", "we have angelfish, i don't know what 'ziglo' is", and point them to this channel if they're interested in it
<samueldr> it's a lambdaflake!
<evils> but `nix` is latin for 'snow'
<samueldr> nah
<samueldr> niks is dutch fro nothing!
<evils> daar weet ik niks van...
<samueldr> I don't care if there's no van
<samueldr> (I don't know dutch)
<evils> ah, dan weet je er ook niks van :P
<evils> (the nix - niks joke somehow never gets old...)
<evils> is there any evidence that mobile-nixos runs on the pinephone? (i seem to recall seeing a video)
<samueldr> not really obviously
<samueldr> all of it would be on the mobile nixos website linked as a big picture
<evils> ah no, found the video, is on the asus-z00t
<samueldr> like
<samueldr> this is not obvious
<samueldr> but the phone on top of the tablet is a pinephone
<samueldr> though yeah, no videos uploaded I see
<samueldr> to me they're all just phones!
<evils> should i try to get some f(x)tec pro1 users to try mobile-nixos?
<samueldr> oh, it's likely to be a slam dunk
<samueldr> I tried to get in touch with them
<samueldr> but neither xda nor f(x)tec replied really
<evils> i'm in their discord, one of my best friends has build his own images for it...
<samueldr> support said they forwarded the message
<samueldr> but I never got anything from f(x)tec
<samueldr> nor xda
<evils> i'm speaking of the unofficial community, though some have contacts with the company
<evils> mostly i'm asking if there's some major hurdle they'd run into that i'd better wait to be resolved
<samueldr> it's running on the same SoC as the pixel 2, so it's likely to be a simple case of doing an autoport
<samueldr> but then hardware support will be in the general "isn't really useful" for that SoC
<samueldr> no wifi
<samueldr> obviously no modem
<samueldr> (all: yet)
<samueldr> I know it's the pinephone since it looks bigger because it's a 720p display
<evils> i think part of the problem is that not many people have 2 of these :P
<evils> those* (pro1)
<samueldr> oh, in my case I'm not stating this as a device-specific issue
<evils> so no spare device to try nixos out on
<samueldr> right
<samueldr> I **know** for a fact that it's generational improvements
* evils looks at 2 xiaomi A1s on the desk
<samueldr> things are generally equivalent for all devices on the same SoC "generation"
<samueldr> a1 is tissot, already somewhat "supported" :)
<evils> yea i asked about it a while ago
<evils> also no wifi
<samueldr> it has wifi
<evils> but then someone dug into it a little
<samueldr> (now)
<samueldr> addison has the same SoC (a device I own) has wifi, and iirc sphalerite ended up fixing it up for tissot
<samueldr> or maybe not yet?
<samueldr> (looking at the changes)
<samueldr> not yet!
<samueldr> it's a question of getting the right firmwares
<evils> btw i think they've been forced to switch SoC on the pro1x
<samueldr> f(x)tec, and similar "generational" vintage needs more work, which is already planned for a bit later
<samueldr> I'm pretty sure I have a clear way forward to fix it all
<samueldr> (for wifi)
<samueldr> it might even help with modem if I'm right
<evils> ah, "siglo and amazfish are two PineTime companion software"
<samueldr> though yeah, Mobile NixOS is more for NixOS users and those that are "sold" on NixOS and its ecosystem than for distro hoppers :)
<samueldr> you won't find, superficially, anything different than on "generalist" distros wher you can pick and choose things like your DE
<samueldr> I say "superficially", since what really sets it apart is the totally hidden in the backgound work for stage-1 and device abstraction!!
<evils> "only for people who are sold on NixOS" kinda holds true for desktop NixOS too xD
<samueldr> (and the mostly hidden NixOS advantages)
<evils> is there a summary of what that means?
<samueldr> hmm, not really
<samueldr> the summary is all over the progress updates I guess
<samueldr> so not a summary
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<samueldr> evils: https://github.com/NixOS/mobile-nixos/pull/352 <- photo of phosh on a pinephone
<samueldr> if it helps
<{^_^}> mobile-nixos#352 (by zhaofengli, 6 days ago, open): examples/phosh-demo: init
<evils> nice, i'll forward it to the pinetalk channel
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