<samueldr>
probably way too much for what it will really be
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<colemickens>
do you have a room for towboot?
<colemickens>
Oh, I just got the name
<samueldr>
colemickens: what did you "get"?
<colemickens>
can I, say, burn towboot to an SD card and then have a regular UEFI install on NVME/USB and expect it to work?
<colemickens>
towboot is like "tow boat" ?
<samueldr>
yes, #tow-boot, but here's fine for now
<samueldr>
colemickens: yes!
<samueldr>
like u-boot is for u-boat
<colemickens>
:)
<samueldr>
blah! NixOS won't EFI boot with Tow-Boot on the helios64!
<zhaofeng>
samueldr: Well yeah, $500 is kind of steep :/
<samueldr>
*starting* at
<samueldr>
it wouldn't surprise me it's 649$ except for the 100 first sold or something like that
<samueldr>
especially if what they do is regurgitate a BSP kernel
<samueldr>
and don't provide any useful sources for the bootloader
<zhaofeng>
They seem to have a $99 discount for the first 100 people
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
but I'm thinking there's going an additional scale of prices with early bird discounts
<zhaofeng>
BSP kernel would be a turn-off for me, but I *might* consider it if it's mainline
<samueldr>
if it was mainline, they'd have stated it
<FantasyCookie17[>
<samueldr "like u-boot is for u-boat"> It's the German word for submarine.
<samueldr>
FantasyCookie17[: yes
<samueldr>
oh, duh, I thought it was U-Boat in german
<samueldr>
and not straight up U-Boot
<samueldr>
but yes
<FantasyCookie17[>
And the official pronunciation of U-Boot also is German, afaik… Though, even as a German, I typically pronounce it the English way 😸
<zhaofeng>
Yeah, mainline would definitely be a selling point
<samueldr>
it would be hella different if they left any security bits unblown on the SoC, and provided *all* of the BSP
<samueldr>
but if unisoc is like mediatek, and if jingos is the kind of people I think they are... nah
<FantasyCookie17[>
<samueldr "oh, duh, I thought it was U-Boat"> That'd be pronounced rather weirdly.
<samueldr>
FantasyCookie17[: yeah, I knew that, I just stopped thinking that moment
<samueldr>
when I say *all* of the BSP, I mean including all firmwarey bits
<samueldr>
looks like today's not the day I boot that helios64 still, maybe, probably
<samueldr>
oh, and with tow-boot, there's also the subtext of trying to "pull" them in a direction :)