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<samueldr> well poo
<samueldr> my rk3399 board here just decided to stop working out of nowhere
<samueldr> when booting mainline linux
<samueldr> doesn't light up anymore, no output, using two different known good u-boot builds
<samueldr> what's poo really is that this was my "trustable" local builds machine
<samueldr> and it was also the only board I could rely on for testing on rk3399 (that wasn't the pinebook pro, which has other issues)
<samueldr> it's still in a bad place, won't have enough power to do build server duties... but turns out only power delivery negotiation is broken
<samueldr> as if I needed more reasons to hate type-c
<samueldr> well I'll be damned
<samueldr> removing the RTC clock battery looks like it allowed the chip dealing with power delivery to reset itself
* samueldr tries to break it again
<samueldr> and indeed, fully reproducible under my setup
<Irenes> huh
<Irenes> it makes sense, but it isn't a thing I'd have guessed
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<samueldr> it took me testing, on a hunch, what would happen if I connect it via usb to a computer
<samueldr> since rockchip devices have a special mode when there is no bootable medium
<samueldr> and it was in that mode
<samueldr> so at that point I knew it wasn't toast
<samueldr> and I know PD is mediated through some smarts
<samueldr> those smarts can fail in weird ways
<samueldr> and hang!
<samueldr> then I powered it off a non-PD usb charger, it worked
<samueldr> so it god my own smarts thinking about things like how the pinephone needs its chip that mediates with power delivery to receive a firmware udpate to work right
<samueldr> (I think this is somewhat inaccurate, but close enough to the situation to make me think)
<samueldr> so it got my own smarts thinking*
<samueldr> and then just had a hunch that maybe it wasn't that the firmware was wrongly updated or lost
<samueldr> but maybe that it's stuck in a wrong mode, with just enough power
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<elvishjerricco> So as someone who knows very little about mobile nixos (and doesn't have hardware to play around with it), what kind of user environment do you get when you boot it up? Is it just a console that you need to plug a hardware keyboard in for?
<samueldr> you get what you configured for it
<elvishjerricco> What can be configured for it?
<samueldr> all of what NixOS can
<elvishjerricco> Oh wow.
<elvishjerricco> I figured most of that wouldn't just work out of the box :P
<samueldr> it's a superset on top of NixOS
<samueldr> and you said it
<samueldr> either it doesn't work, or is bad on a phone!
<samueldr> but NixOS is getting phosh (in a PR) and plasma mobile (ugh, I need to open that PR)
<samueldr> which in turn will be more useful
<elvishjerricco> I was about to ask about plasma mobile. Never heard of phosh
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<samueldr> but there's a big gap in documentation/implementation into how to get "started"
<samueldr> because it's a goal I have time dedicated to, still haven't worked on it
<samueldr> and good thing, since it turns out I probably wouldn't have had the ideas I have now
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