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<abathur> anyone around?
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<LnL> morning
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<abathur> yo
<LnL> what's up?
<abathur> not much yet, just sat down with coffee
<abathur> coffee done; I guess my next step is either posting on the forum, or opening a Nix issue about the catalina performance issue
<abathur> or maybe opening an issue that points to a forum post :]
<abathur> I'm leery of putting it all in an issue yet given what a poor venue the nix-on-catalina thread proved to be once it got beyond whatever length GH starts hiding posts at
<abathur> but this issue may not generate as much traffic since it's not a hard blocker in the first place
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<LnL> yeah, the catalina issue was 4 things in one
<LnL> anything related to relocating the store belongs in another issue, etc.
<LnL> once apple provided synthetic.conf the issue about / being readonly, which is what the original issue was about, was basically resolved IMHO
<abathur> yeah
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<abathur> hmm, have you used the pyobjc python package?
<LnL> if I have it's been a long time
<LnL> last thing I messed with a while back is IOKit
<abathur> it seems unusable at the moment, I think maybe it's been optimistically upgraded into a dead-end or something
<abathur> if i build with python27 the package refuses and if I build with python3x Nix objects
<abathur> or maybe it's just mispackaged, dunno
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<abathur> can't even get the init version to work; assuming it couldn't have snuck in and continued to pass evals on update if it was completely broken, I guess the package is fragile wrt to macOS versions
<LnL> build failures or a runtime segfault?
<abathur> build
<LnL> don't know then
<abathur> recent versions on 27 do: ERROR: Package 'pyobjc' requires a different Python: 2.7.17 not in '>=3.6'
<abathur> on any 3x: error: pyobjc-6.1 not supported for interpreter python3.7
<abathur> if I comment out the disable for py3, it's some variation of a missing package like: ERROR: No matching distribution found for pyobjc-framework-Speech==6.1; platform_release >= "19.0" (from pyobjc==6.1)
<LnL> oh that last one sounds like a nix evaluation error
<LnL> if so the python version requirement of the expression is wrong
<abathur> but it's a different sub-package for each version I tried to pull out of the history and build
<abathur> well, it's had `disabled = isPy3k;` since init with a comment with a similar no-matching-distribution error
<LnL> heh
<LnL> but has it been updated since?
<LnL> sometimes people don't notice weird stuff because they have allowBroken in their config and use/update stuff that's not enabled
<abathur> it has; I think it gets updated in every big python update cycle
<abathur> trying a build on my mojave system
<LnL> domenkozar[m]: anything I need to do to backport the installer changes? or are you going to take it with the rest of the new flags
<domenkozar[m]> hmmm
<domenkozar[m]> not sure Eelco would accept that
<domenkozar[m]> let me ask him
<LnL> oh :/
<domenkozar[m]> I guess it depens how close is Nix release
<LnL> yeah, didn't seem it was _that_ close to me but maybe I'm wrong :)
<domenkozar[m]> LnL: btw we should probably also merge https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/3608
<{^_^}> nix#3608 (by surajbarkale, 3 days ago, open): Use /etc/zshenv instead of /etc/zshrc for profile
<domenkozar[m]> what do you think
<LnL> not sure if that gets loaded under all the same circumstances, but I think so
<LnL> not really a solution to the issue however, bash has the same problem
<LnL> is environment.d a consistent thing on all platforms?
<domenkozar[m]> LnL: seems like stackoverflow says setting $PATH in there won't work
<domenkozar[m]> btw, we can't backport catalina fix without breaking https://github.com/cachix/install-nix-action
<domenkozar[m]> because previously I would just run create-darwin-volume before running the installer
<domenkozar[m]> but now all installations will fail, since it's not passing the magic cli flag to enable catalina
<LnL> howso?
<LnL> if /nix is there already it should be totally optional
<domenkozar[m]> ah ok
<domenkozar[m]> I'll create a PR then
<domenkozar[m]> (tomorrow)
<LnL> thanks!
<LnL> btw, perhaps we should at link the new manual on the catalina issue https://hydra.nixos.org/build/119559243/download/1/manual/#sect-macos-installation
<domenkozar[m]> could you do that?
<LnL> nope, I don't have fancy bits for the nix repo :)
<abathur> LnL: it also failed on mojave in unstable and nixpkgs-{18.03,18.09,19.03}-darwin; giving up on it for now
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<ncl> how do i add quotes
<ncl> /wrong channel
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