<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] alunduil opened pull request #32959: remove network-uri-json from dont-distribute-packages (master...readd-network-uri-json) https://git.io/vb9eF
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<yegortimoshenko>
is it possible to parse drv file?
<fogbugz>
I've been using NixOS for a few years, and I love it more and more. But my impression is that NixPkgs is getting a bit messy. Perhaps some package Spring cleaning campaign is needed.
<gchristensen>
fogbugz: are you connected to fogbugz?
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<yegortimoshenko>
(by "possible" i mean, only using command-line tools)
<pbogdan>
yegortimoshenko: nixUnstable can parse & output .drv in json format
<fogbugz>
yegortimoshenko: No I don't, I didnt have anything in mind that was related to command-line tools, but rather how complicated some stuff has gotten. If you search for firefox for example, you get firefox, firefoxWrapper, firefox-wrapper, firefox-esr and firefox-esr-wrapper.
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<gchristensen>
that doesn't even include firefox-bin!
<pbogdan>
yegortimoshenko: you could then further process with jq or similar perhaps?
<fogbugz>
I Plus firefox-esr-unwrapped, firefox-unwrapped and many others
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<yegortimoshenko>
pbogdan: that's exactly what i was looking for! thank you a lot!
<fogbugz>
Well, maybe its not a UI problem, but just that we are starting to have a combinatorial explosion of sooptions in me packages.
<gchristensen>
fogbugz: I agree
<yegortimoshenko>
fogbugz: in regards to cli tools, i was elaborating my own question above
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<fogbugz>
I love how the nix command line is getting redesigned, maybe NikPkgs
* dtzWill
agrees too
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<pkill9>
it is? nice
<fogbugz>
needs some guidelines
<yegortimoshenko>
why unwrapped versions would be at top level?
<dtzWill>
think we need to pivot a bit to accomodate the growth... getting a bit big for the current level of process/"organization" we have. Might be worth looking at other big projects, or something.
<Wizek>
hello
<yegortimoshenko>
dtzWill: i don't see any inherent problem with how Nixpkgs is organized, could you elaborate more?
<pkill9>
is ther enot a way to merge all those firefox packages into one firefox package, using the attributes to set apart the type of firefox isntall?
<pkill9>
instal*
<pkill9>
install*
<dtzWill>
yegortimoshenko: more about quality control and such! Not about organization of the files, really.
<Wizek>
Can I install an exact nix package if the only thing I know about it is its /nix/store path, which includes its name, version, and most importantly, hash?
<pkill9>
i'm new to Nix so I don't quite understand how it all works
<dtzWill>
and not so much /lack/ of quality (else I'd file an issue or fix it!) but just overall polish and attention to such things
<pkill9>
yeha you can Wizek
<fogbugz>
dtzWill: i agree
<pkill9>
that's what you do when you use nix-build
<dtzWill>
Wizek: assuming it's in a binary cache, yes!
<pkill9>
then you install it using it's hash
<Wizek>
dtzWill: Is there a bash one-liner to fetch and put it in store?
<yegortimoshenko>
we should definitely import more patches from debian
<pkill9>
did anyone see my question?
<dtzWill>
nix-env can take store paths, at least in some versions O:), IIRC
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<dtzWill>
yegortimoshenko: yeah--that sort of thing. Same situation re:how we handle security issues/patches/etc.
<dtzWill>
(although some heroic efforts have gotten us pretty far! :D)
<yegortimoshenko>
dtzWill: i agree.
<gchristensen>
dtzWill: I agree w.r.t. organization
<gchristensen>
there is some research going in to that I think
<yegortimoshenko>
gchristensen: tell more! (about the research)
<dtzWill>
honestly we have enough skill and enough people it might be more about channeling and a small amount of management... more than new resources. If that makes sense. But hopefully folks who know more about such things can provide wisdom/guidance O:)
<dtzWill>
(yeah)
<Wizek>
dtzWill: it seems to work wonderfully, thanks!
<dtzWill>
Wizek: np! magical world of Nix awaits! 【ツ】
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<Wizek>
dtzWill: heh, I'm already half-way inside that world :)
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<dtzWill>
I find it amusing to suspect nixpkgs would generally work beter on non-NixOS if Nix/NixOS didn't have such a strong tendenancy to compell you to go all-in :D
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<dtzWill>
:P
<gchristensen>
:D
<Wizek>
next question, to solve more of my root problem: I built a haskell binary and sent it over to one of my friends. To build, I entered a nix-shell and used cabal-install new-build inside. But it seems the binary is not quite static enough, Since his strace outputs: `open("/nix/store/mqglc3zkqwk3gchdp1hmlkx3ql9a5qyn-glibc-2.25-49/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)`
<Wizek>
How/could I build fully statically?
<gchristensen>
static binaries always depend on the interpreter
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<dtzWill>
err. Oh, glibc. and "haskell-static" or something, presumably?
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<Wizek>
I even tried `cabal new-build --disable-executable-dynamic --ghc-option=-optl=-static --ghc-option=-optl=-pthread` which didn't seem to have an effect on the output binary size
<Wizek>
gchristensen: how do you mean?
<dtzWill>
my brain aborted on "static binaries always depend on the interpreter" since generally ("fully") static binaries don't need it at all
<gchristensen>
even binaries have an interpreter
<gchristensen>
really, dtzWill?
<dtzWill>
glibc just makes it really hard to create fully static binaries, since it doesn't support them
<gchristensen>
ack
<dtzWill>
yeah, I do it all the time with musl
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<gchristensen>
well so can't Wizek's friend use their ld-linux to call their static bin?
<dtzWill>
err if he got the path with "nix-store -r" ... it should get the dependency on ld-linux?
<Wizek>
dtzWill: yes, I am trying to suggest that to him as a stop-gap measure
<dtzWill>
gchristensen: "probably" but I don't think that's generally a guarantee
<Wizek>
but I am looking for a better solution as well
<dtzWill>
Wizek: is there a reason you can't copy the entire closure over?
<Wizek>
how would I do that?
<Wizek>
I hope you are not suggesting the whole of /nix/store
<Wizek>
since that's humongous
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<gchristensen>
no just the dependencies
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<Wizek>
gchristensen: can I package that up easily somehow?
<Wizek>
dtzWill: ^
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<Lisanna>
Oh geez... pks.buildEnv requires a *ton* of extra dependencies
<Lisanna>
trying to construct a working Nix environment for an environment that has no network access makes you realize how dependent Nix is on being able to connect to the Internet at any time
<clever>
yeah
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<yegortimoshenko>
pbogdan: how can one use nixUnstable to convert .drv to json? can't figure it out
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<Lisanna>
ugh... I've tried three different ways to get this to work, but I'm getting stuck.
<Lisanna>
nix-build -A foo ./shell.nix => error: expression does not evaluate to a derivation (or a set or list of those)
<Lisanna>
nix-build -A bar ./shell.nix => error: not an absolute path: ‘’
<Lisanna>
nix-build -A baz ./shell.nix => tries to download a bunch of stuff, since I don't have the dependencies of pkgs.buildEnv installed I guess :/
<Lisanna>
bar is my latest attempt, and I can't see anything wrong with it
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<paperdigits[m]>
Using libvirtd, is there a way to declaratively manage storage pools?
<Fare>
Hi. I'm trying to install nixos from a chroot under Ubuntu. nixos-rebuild complains while building: "error: while setting up the build environment: cannot pivot old root directory onto ‘/nix/store/vv39fnhv8cmi63f36khclps09rk44zvg-users-groups.json.drv.chroot/real-root’: Invalid argument"
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<Fare>
how can I make it work?
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<Lisanna>
Plan 4 is to try to preload the /nix/store with the closure of baz, and hope to god that the hashes come out the same and it doesn't try to download a bunch of stuff x_x
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<Lisanna>
Fare: Huh, didn't even know that was possible!
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* Fare
compiles a kernel with the same options as galliumos and hopes that will work.
<Fare>
What is the cheat to increase parallelism within a job being built, already?
<Fare>
if I want to use more cores to build the kernel
<MichaelRaskin>
Without restarting the build?
<ghostyy>
MAKEFLAGS=-jn where n is the number of jobs
<ghostyy>
but you need to restart the build for that
<ghostyy>
although, maybe you could just kill it, set that, and start it again without cleaning
<MichaelRaskin>
I would hope that all the methods not requiring the restart would be complicated (breaking isolation, all that)
<MichaelRaskin>
No, it would use a new directory.
<MichaelRaskin>
Injecting the object files from the old run might work.
<MichaelRaskin>
I think kernel should have parallel builds enabled, so just --option build-cores 32 would work.
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* Fare
sets nix.buildCores = 4
<MichaelRaskin>
You need to rebuild for that to get any effect.
<Fare>
MichaelRaskin, I restarted the build; the kernel compilation was not that advanced anyway
<MichaelRaskin>
So if the kernel is a part of the rebuild, you want to rebuild with the old kernel first.
<MichaelRaskin>
No, I mean nixos-rebuild.
<Fare>
I actually call nixos-install: the machine is not bootstrapped yet
<MichaelRaskin>
nix.buildCores is in the configuration for nixos-install?
<MichaelRaskin>
Not sure it will get used before the installation is complete.
<Fare>
(trying to install nixos on a chromebook; apparently a normal nixos usb stick kind of works, as long as you use keyboard, mouse and ethernet over usb to compensate for missing drivers)
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<Fare>
MichaelRaskin, I believe that nixos-install actually calls nixos-rebuild inside a carefully-crafted chroot
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<Fare>
I previously tried to carefully craft the chroot myself from ubuntu, but failed.
<grantwu>
hey does anyone want an example of how _not_ to suggest someone use Nix
<vaibhavsagar>
yes please
<grantwu>
just a sec
<Fare>
(galliumos.org is a variant of xubuntu for chromebook)
<grantwu>
Need to clean up my IRC logs
<MichaelRaskin>
Fare: yes, but the configuration.nix is not going to actually change how the Nix build goes until the first system build is complete.
<MichaelRaskin>
Unless some magic got added specifically to nixos-install just for that.
<grantwu>
hyper_ch: Feel free to tell me more about how Nix won't solve my problems here, instead of clogging up #letsencrypt
<Fare>
I don't understand. The configuration.nix in /mnt is definitely used by nixos-install (via I believe nixos-rebuild) -- my changes to it definitely are used.
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<MichaelRaskin>
Hm, maybe some magic dit get added to nixos-install.
<vaibhavsagar>
hmm, sounds like me on a bad day :)
<Fare>
afaict nixos-install is "just" setting up a chroot, copying nixos-rebuild to it, and calling it
<MichaelRaskin>
Then the Nix options will be inherited up to the point the rebuild succeeds.
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<MichaelRaskin>
grantwu: ouch. And that is actually why I periodically say on #nixos that we do not need visibility because right now we have process bottlenecks and removing them will help more than outreach to people we are not ready to help well.
<MichaelRaskin>
Sorry that we still fail to prevent misguided outreach.
<Fare>
grantwu: I have a working letsencrypt setup for nixos somehow. I remember it was a bitch to setup, and I am not sure I could operate it correctly :-(
<grantwu>
And I don't even need to be outreached to :'( I have a merged PR to nixpkgs, I _know_ what Nix is
<Fare>
software is a bitch. And then you exit.
<MichaelRaskin>
As usual, misguided aim ends with friendly fire.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vb98V
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging d8a1b34 Tristan Carel: boost166: init at 1.66.0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 0e37a2c Frederik Rietdijk: boost165: make it possible to build without numpy
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<kuznero>
Hi All!
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<kuznero>
How do I check what my package depends on in nixos? I just built a simple haskell project and packaged and installed it and would like to see if it does not include things like dependency to a ghc compiler for example...
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<clever>
kuznero: nix-store -qR
<dhess>
clever: something odd is going on, really baffling and probably something really stupid. I can't get nix-env to honor a 'nixpkgs=...' in my NIX_PATH
<dhess>
clever: any idea why that might be happening?
<kuznero>
clever: it shows nothing... should I pass the path to a package?
<kuznero>
srhb: thanks, that works... and I do have dependency on ghc821 :( sad...
<dhess>
I had this same config, as far as I can tell, anyway working on a different host
<dhess>
and I've been doing it for a year. Now I'm trying to move that environment to a different NixOS box and now nix-env is a) ignoring my NIX_PATH and b) ignoring my overlays
<dhess>
it's bizarre
<srhb>
dhess: Shouldn't the nixpkgs path be the directory in which to find the nixpkgs directory?
<dhess>
I'm sure it's something really dumb, too
<dhess>
srhb: That's where it is. That's just a checked-out nixpkgs-channels git repo
<dhess>
on a particular branch (channel)
<kuznero>
Just reading through nixpkgs manual on building statically linked haskell binaries: "It’s important to realize, however, that most system libraries in Nix are built as shared libraries only, i.e. there is just no static library available that Cabal could link!" Does that mean there is just no way to produce fully statically linked binaries of haske
<kuznero>
ll in NixOS?
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<vaibhavsagar>
kuznero: have you tried justStaticExecutables?
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: nope, will investigate, thanks. Will that let me build fully statically linked binary?
<srhb>
dhess: So you have nixpkgs-channels/nixpkgs ?
<vaibhavsagar>
kuznero: let me know if it works for you :)
<kuznero>
:D
<etu>
Hey, today I have a NFS server with nixos and a client that talks nfsv3 to that and it works fine. My client wasts to talk nfsv4 now. It just says "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting" when using "-o vers=4"
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<dhess>
srhb: no.. shit I forgot to put that in .nix-defexpr
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<dhess>
ok now I'm getting a bit farther. it's choking on trying to evaluate gnuplot but that's progress
<srhb>
Which part of hydra does the checking out of repositories? I want to give it a private key so it can check out a private repository.
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: should I try to combine justStaticExecutables with overriding cabal with `enableSharedExecutables = false` or justStaticExecutables does it all?
<vaibhavsagar>
kuznero: justStaticExecutables does it all
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: excellent :) thanks
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<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: looks exactly what I need. Let's see what closure deps will show, ldd, and the size of binaries now :)
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: closure deps reduced significantly, there are only glibc, gcc and gmp left now
<vaibhavsagar>
hmm, I think that's what the haskell documentation was referring to
<vaibhavsagar>
maybe if you run `ldd` it'll still be dynamically linked to gmp and glibc
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: ldd though still shows a lot of deps to a lot of system libs. So, it is not like with golang where ldd just straight away says that it is not dynamically linked
<vaibhavsagar>
right
<vaibhavsagar>
so I think you'll have to use FHSUserEnv or Docker to get fully static builds
<kuznero>
you mean without nix?
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<vaibhavsagar>
I'm not sure about the details of FHSUserEnv, but with Docker yes, I mean without Nix
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<dhess>
srhb: so it was a combination of that missing .nix-defexpr/nixpkgs symlink and a really old nix-env on the system I was migrating to. Thanks for the hint, that got me going in the right direction.
<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: in that case I will need to make this `static` config in cabal file and just run a simple docker build?
<vaibhavsagar>
this is further than I've ever tried to go with Haskell+Nix, I can't be of much help unfortunately :(
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<kuznero>
vaibhavsagar: `-fuse-ld=bfd` seems to be getting closer than the default one. But it complains that it cannot find: -lm -lgmp -lrt -ldl -lpthread -lc. Exactly those system libs produced with nix-based approach we tried before.
<kuznero>
I would guess it is not time to try Dockerfile :)
<kuznero>
s/not/now/ :)
<etu>
So, nfs4 host on nixos? Any hints on how to do that?
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<srhb>
Any idea what this means? The .jobsets jobset must only have a single job named 'jobsets'
<srhb>
When trying to declare a declaratively specced jobset
<lezed1>
I'm trying to run a program that is only released as a precompiled binary and I get the issue
<lezed1>
oops, pressed enter too early
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<lezed1>
I'm trying to run a program that is only released as a precompiled binary and I get the issue `bash: ./cloudflare-warp: No such file or directory`. I'm not sure how to fix this since the file does exist. Any ideas how I can fix this?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9wv
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master 6d80870 Eelco Dolstra: release.nix: Use fetchTarball and fetchGit...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nix/master aa43cbb Eelco Dolstra: Check aws-sdk-cpp version
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] edolstra closed pull request #1748: release.nix: use 'nixpkgs' argument, even if nixpkgs in NIX_PATH (master...fix/use-nixpkgs-argument) https://git.io/vb1Pq
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<pkill9>
lezed1: did you download the correct binary for your architecture? that error happens when you try to runa binary that's been compiled for another architecture
<lezed1>
yes, it's 64bit (as is my system)
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<lezed1>
output from file: `cloudflare-warp: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, stripped` and uname -m x86_64
<lezed1>
everything there looks fine to me
<lezed1>
ldd doesn't have any missing libraries either
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #32972: linux-testing-bcachefs: 4.11.2017.08.23 -> 4.13.2017.12.21, bcachefs-tools: 2017-08-28 -> 2017-12-21 (master...bcachefs) https://git.io/vb9oY
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #32973: zstd: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.3 (master...zstd) https://git.io/vb9Kc
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<__Sander__>
hmm newest android sdk seems to require glibc 2.25
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<superherointj>
Is it too hard to get Gnome working in NixOS with latest Nvidia drivers?
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<etu>
superherointj: Huh? No? Works for me at home with latest nixos-unstable
<asymmetric>
if the left-most column is all green, that means the channel is on its way to being updated?
<srhb>
Or has been.
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<srhb>
asymmetric: Hmm, I understand your confusion, looks like it should have updated. I'm not sure if the update scripts run only at some point in time and check if the tests did succeed or whenever the tests succeed.
<srhb>
Or maybe it got stuck. That happens a lot.
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<gchristensen>
srhb, asymmetric: the secret ingredient that hasn't been satisfied yet is the evaluation has to have zero queued jobs, they all must be built / failed / aborted: https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1420452
<srhb>
TIL, thanks gchristensen :)
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<gchristensen>
we should write that down somewhere..!
<srhb>
a !where channel-update would be good.
<gchristensen>
something along those lines would be good, but I'd never remember that triggger
<srhb>
True...
<srhb>
We just need a clippy-like that guesses at when you need the information!
<srhb>
:-P
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<gchristensen>
chatbots! /me runs away
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<joepie91>
fwiw, I've seen pretty good success rates with bots that trigger on certain keywords with an auto-answer
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<joepie91>
or well, key phrases
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<asymmetric>
is there some sort of unofficial wiki?
<srhb>
customisation.nix appears to be the ultimate origin.
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<gleber_>
srhb: yes, so the final chain looks to be `top-level/impure.nix -> top-level/default.nix -> import stage.nix -> import splice.nix -> callPackage -> customisation.nix:makeScope`
<srhb>
Indeed. :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vb9jV
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<vcunat>
pies for image recognition? Reminds mi of the LumiGuide talk :-)
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<MoreTea>
vcunat: heh, it's not for them. A company wants our cloud expertise with IoT stuff, but they can't provide hardware. So I'm re-building part of their product, hopefully in a few hours with Nix and a raspberry pi 3.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbHfK
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 02efc76 Shea Levy: gurobipy: Bump to 7.5.2
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] bgamari opened pull request #1754: Fix adding paths to the store (try 3) (master...dump-fix) https://git.io/vbHJ2
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbHJX
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a0a692b Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_control_center: clean up
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master e6936dd Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_keyring: clarify Python version & enable tests
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master c6e9acc Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_desktop: clean up
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<vcunat>
Oh, IoT :-) Hopefully nix will help to make them way less crappy than the average IoT device.
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<gchristensen>
hmm I keep getting "error: all build users are currently in use; consider creating additional users and adding them to the ‘nixbld’ group" on this box
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<gchristensen>
despite maxJobs = 96 and I have 96 build users and I'm going through the daemon
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
is it intended for texlive "scheme-minimal" to installs a tool for typesetting gregorian chants?
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
it's hardly essential
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<vcunat>
rnhmjoj[m]: the schemes and collections are supposed to be as defined upstream
<vcunat>
if you think we digress in this, or if it's a large difference in space, file a nixpkgs issue
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #32985: coqPackages.contribs: recurse into the nested set (master...coq-contribs-recurse) https://git.io/vbHka
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
i was just wondering how it got pulled in because looking at the package sources it doesn't seem directly included
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbHLt
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5e8a078 Shea Levy: Disable tests on haskellPackages.protobuf
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<asymmetric>
how does one find out if the channel update of nixpkgs-unstable is somehow stuck?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbHtS
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 25576df Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.contribs: recurse into the nested set
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2447452 Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.contribs.containers: fix url
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 25ef9fa John Wiegley: Merge pull request #32985 from vbgl/coq-contribs-recurse...
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
asymmetric: the latest successful build is from 3 days ago, the other more recent ones failed at least one test or some test has not yet been executed
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
the git repo is then update with the commit of that build, i don't know whether it's done manually or automatically though.
<gchristensen>
it is automatic
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<gchristensen>
those are specific jobs which must pass. all of those must be success, _and_ every job in the evaluation must be finished for the channel to advance
<gchristensen>
(every job in the evaluation must be finished, but not necessarily successfully)
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<asymmetric>
ah cool
<asymmetric>
should i write this up somewhere in the wiki?
<gchristensen>
please
<samueldr>
yes please!
<gchristensen>
@
<gchristensen>
s/@/!/...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbHmw
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<asymmetric>
can i find the merge commit of an individual pr in hydra? i.e. from a contributor's point of view, how do i know where my contribution is in hydra?
<gchristensen>
that is a tough question to answer right now
<samueldr>
(though it's only valid for the stable version at the point in time you're looking at it, meaning that older releases and unstable may have different options)
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<Fare>
hi. I want to debug a kernel extra config; how do I start a nix-shell to rebuild specifically the kernel package and give me an opportunity to tinker when it fails?
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<Fare>
BTW, I found how to chroot into NixOS from within Ubuntu. Slightly convoluted, but possible
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<Fare>
involves: mount --bind /NixOS/nix /nix and a few symlinks
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<mhsjlw[m]>
So, how can I install a package like Discord?
<mhsjlw[m]>
I believe I am on unstable right now
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<tokudan[m]>
is there a way to do an imports = [ (pkgs.fetchFromGitHub {...}) ]; ? right now I get an infinite recursion error
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] aij opened pull request #32988: altcoins.aeon: init at 0.9.14.0 (master...aeon) https://git.io/vbHBu
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<simukis>
so what's the right way to globally "install" a clang-based stdenv that is capable of compiling both c and c++ code?
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<Lisanna>
simukis: what do you mean by "install"?
<Lisanna>
for building with Nix, use clangStdenv
<Lisanna>
i.e. clangStdenv.mkDerivation
<simukis>
what should I specify in configuration.nix so it appears globally (in /run/current-system/...).
<simukis>
Lisanna: I’ve experienced trouble building llvm with that
<Lisanna>
simukis: the attribute name is just "clang"
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<simukis>
I did try both just "clang" and "clangStdenv", but neither could complete building llvm; both failed fairly early with errors related to system headers.
<Lisanna>
that will install a functional clang
<simukis>
Now I tried libcxxStdenv, but that doesn’t put clang nor cc in global namespace
<Lisanna>
the package you want is called "clang"
<Lisanna>
put that in your nixos systempackages
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nix] dtzWill opened pull request #1755: fetchGit: Fix handling of local repo when not using 'master' branch (master...fix/fetchGit-clean-branch) https://git.io/vbHR6
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<Lisanna>
environment.systemPackages = [ clang ]
<Lisanna>
then you can invoke clang from a regular shell
<simukis>
but it won’t make `cc` a `clang` -- or rather I won’t have a `cc` at all
<Lisanna>
it will make a "clang" available in your PATH.
<Lisanna>
I don't know about "cc"
<simukis>
that’s the point of the `*Stdenv` packages, as I understand it
<Lisanna>
the stdenv packages are for writing Nix derivations that compile programs
<simukis>
mhm
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<Lisanna>
they provide compilers and a number of other tools to build, install, and fixup programs from source
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbH0i
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<Lisanna>
If I understand correctly, if A has buildInputs = [B], and B has buildInputs = [C], then the closure of A should include C, right?
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<Dezgeg>
not necessarily, e.g. B could statically link a library of C
<Lisanna>
how does Nix tell the difference?
<Lisanna>
also, wouldn't you have B.nativeBuildInputs = [C] then?
<Dezgeg>
no
<Dezgeg>
the difference is whether B contains the store path for C
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<Dezgeg>
contains as in grep, basically
<Lisanna>
...oh
<Lisanna>
that's...
<Lisanna>
oh, I think I remember reading about that before
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<Lisanna>
okay, so just because you have A.buildInputs = [B], if the final derivation doesn't have any actual references to /nix/store/B, then the closure of A won't contain B
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<Fare>
alternatively, is there a good way to make a kernel package from a precompiled binary from another OS distribution?
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<samueldr>
Fare, semi-unrelated, is there anything specific you need with the kernel? in case there's already a solution to your needs
<samueldr>
(I don't know if there is such a way though, and I'm not sure how to use nix-shell to play around with the kernel)
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<moet>
can i override the `.env` thing in a shell.nix? i'd like to additional packages to it..
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<catern>
hey #nixos, how should I create a wrapper script for my Python command-line-application? (actually a flask app)
<catern>
does the setuptools console_scripts thingy Just Work? that would be really great
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] veprbl opened pull request #32989: dblatex: 0.3.7 -> 0.3.10, also fix for new texlive (master...dblatex_fix) https://git.io/vbHVf
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<Lisanna>
Is it possible to, from within a Nix expression, get all of the dependencies required for instantiating some expression? I know how to get the run-time dependencies of a built derivation, but I need to know exactly what I need to instantiate something.
<catern>
Lisanna: is the expression a derivation?
<Lisanna>
yeah
<Lisanna>
I need to be able to evaluate it in an offline environment, so I want to pre-load the Nix store with everything it will need to instantiate it
<catern>
I think there is an attribute on derivations that might give you what you want
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<catern>
why do you need to do that from within a Nix expression though?
<catern>
if you relaxed that requirement you could just use nix-store --requisites
<Lisanna>
I'm using runInLinuxVM to prepare a disk image with a /nix
<Lisanna>
nix-store --requisites isn't quite what I want I think
<Lisanna>
that's the closure of the built derivation, I need the list of everything required to *build* it
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<catern>
nix-store --requisites on the low-level derivation, not the output
<Lisanna>
low-level derivation?
<catern>
the .drv file
<Lisanna>
oh
<catern>
there's an example in the nix-store manual, see "Print the build-time dependencies of svn"
<Lisanna>
oh, I see in the manual
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<Lisanna>
alright, so then from an output path, I just need a way to get the .drv
<Lisanna>
then I should have everything I need
<Lisanna>
--deriver?
<catern>
yes
<catern>
but you can't do this inside a Nix expression
<Lisanna>
I know, this is in a runInLinuxVM, the output paths come from a dollar curly evaluation
<catern>
oh, then carry on :)
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<catern>
Lisanna: exportReferencesGraph is what you would want otherwise, I believe
<catern>
see the manual
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<Lisanna>
yeah, I'm also using that
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<gchristensen>
clever: ping?
<clever>
gchristensen: pong
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