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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] alunduil opened pull request #32959: remove network-uri-json from dont-distribute-packages (master...readd-network-uri-json) https://git.io/vb9eF
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<yegortimoshenko> is it possible to parse drv file?
<fogbugz> I've been using NixOS for a few years, and I love it more and more. But my impression is that NixPkgs is getting a bit messy. Perhaps some package Spring cleaning campaign is needed.
<yegortimoshenko> fogbugz: what's particularly wrong?
<gchristensen> fogbugz: are you connected to fogbugz?
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<yegortimoshenko> (by "possible" i mean, only using command-line tools)
<pbogdan> yegortimoshenko: nixUnstable can parse & output .drv in json format
<fogbugz> yegortimoshenko: No I don't, I didnt have anything in mind that was related to command-line tools, but rather how complicated some stuff has gotten. If you search for firefox for example, you get firefox, firefoxWrapper, firefox-wrapper, firefox-esr and firefox-esr-wrapper.
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<gchristensen> that doesn't even include firefox-bin!
<pbogdan> yegortimoshenko: you could then further process with jq or similar perhaps?
<fogbugz> I Plus firefox-esr-unwrapped, firefox-unwrapped and many others
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<yegortimoshenko> pbogdan: that's exactly what i was looking for! thank you a lot!
<fogbugz> Well, maybe its not a UI problem, but just that we are starting to have a combinatorial explosion of sooptions in me packages.
<gchristensen> fogbugz: I agree
<yegortimoshenko> fogbugz: in regards to cli tools, i was elaborating my own question above
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<fogbugz> I love how the nix command line is getting redesigned, maybe NikPkgs
* dtzWill agrees too
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<pkill9> it is? nice
<fogbugz> needs some guidelines
<yegortimoshenko> why unwrapped versions would be at top level?
<dtzWill> think we need to pivot a bit to accomodate the growth... getting a bit big for the current level of process/"organization" we have. Might be worth looking at other big projects, or something.
<Wizek> hello
<yegortimoshenko> dtzWill: i don't see any inherent problem with how Nixpkgs is organized, could you elaborate more?
<pkill9> is ther enot a way to merge all those firefox packages into one firefox package, using the attributes to set apart the type of firefox isntall?
<pkill9> instal*
<pkill9> install*
<dtzWill> yegortimoshenko: more about quality control and such! Not about organization of the files, really.
<Wizek> Can I install an exact nix package if the only thing I know about it is its /nix/store path, which includes its name, version, and most importantly, hash?
<pkill9> i'm new to Nix so I don't quite understand how it all works
<dtzWill> and not so much /lack/ of quality (else I'd file an issue or fix it!) but just overall polish and attention to such things
<pkill9> yeha you can Wizek
<fogbugz> dtzWill: i agree
<pkill9> that's what you do when you use nix-build
<dtzWill> Wizek: assuming it's in a binary cache, yes!
<pkill9> then you install it using it's hash
<Wizek> dtzWill: Is there a bash one-liner to fetch and put it in store?
<pkill9> path to it's hash*
<dtzWill> Wizek: nix-store -r /nix/store/path-to-output
<Wizek> dtzWill: checking
<yegortimoshenko> dtzWill: ah, it's tricky.
<yegortimoshenko> we should definitely import more patches from debian
<pkill9> did anyone see my question?
<dtzWill> nix-env can take store paths, at least in some versions O:), IIRC
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<dtzWill> yegortimoshenko: yeah--that sort of thing. Same situation re:how we handle security issues/patches/etc.
<dtzWill> (although some heroic efforts have gotten us pretty far! :D)
<yegortimoshenko> dtzWill: i agree.
<gchristensen> dtzWill: I agree w.r.t. organization
<gchristensen> there is some research going in to that I think
<yegortimoshenko> gchristensen: tell more! (about the research)
<dtzWill> honestly we have enough skill and enough people it might be more about channeling and a small amount of management... more than new resources. If that makes sense. But hopefully folks who know more about such things can provide wisdom/guidance O:)
<dtzWill> (yeah)
<Wizek> dtzWill: it seems to work wonderfully, thanks!
<dtzWill> Wizek: np! magical world of Nix awaits! 【ツ】
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<Wizek> dtzWill: heh, I'm already half-way inside that world :)
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<dtzWill> I find it amusing to suspect nixpkgs would generally work beter on non-NixOS if Nix/NixOS didn't have such a strong tendenancy to compell you to go all-in :D
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<dtzWill> :P
<gchristensen> :D
<Wizek> next question, to solve more of my root problem: I built a haskell binary and sent it over to one of my friends. To build, I entered a nix-shell and used cabal-install new-build inside. But it seems the binary is not quite static enough, Since his strace outputs: `open("/nix/store/mqglc3zkqwk3gchdp1hmlkx3ql9a5qyn-glibc-2.25-49/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)`
<Wizek> How/could I build fully statically?
<gchristensen> static binaries always depend on the interpreter
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<dtzWill> err. Oh, glibc. and "haskell-static" or something, presumably?
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<Wizek> I even tried `cabal new-build --disable-executable-dynamic --ghc-option=-optl=-static --ghc-option=-optl=-pthread` which didn't seem to have an effect on the output binary size
<Wizek> gchristensen: how do you mean?
<dtzWill> my brain aborted on "static binaries always depend on the interpreter" since generally ("fully") static binaries don't need it at all
<gchristensen> even binaries have an interpreter
<gchristensen> really, dtzWill?
<dtzWill> glibc just makes it really hard to create fully static binaries, since it doesn't support them
<gchristensen> ack
<dtzWill> yeah, I do it all the time with musl
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<gchristensen> well so can't Wizek's friend use their ld-linux to call their static bin?
<dtzWill> err if he got the path with "nix-store -r" ... it should get the dependency on ld-linux?
<Wizek> dtzWill: yes, I am trying to suggest that to him as a stop-gap measure
<dtzWill> gchristensen: "probably" but I don't think that's generally a guarantee
<Wizek> but I am looking for a better solution as well
<dtzWill> Wizek: is there a reason you can't copy the entire closure over?
<Wizek> how would I do that?
<Wizek> I hope you are not suggesting the whole of /nix/store
<Wizek> since that's humongous
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<gchristensen> no just the dependencies
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] florianjacob opened pull request #32960: Prosody 0.10.0 (master...prosody-0.10) https://git.io/vb9JB
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<Wizek> gchristensen: can I package that up easily somehow?
<Wizek> dtzWill: ^
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<Lisanna> Oh geez... pks.buildEnv requires a *ton* of extra dependencies
<Lisanna> trying to construct a working Nix environment for an environment that has no network access makes you realize how dependent Nix is on being able to connect to the Internet at any time
<clever> yeah
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<yegortimoshenko> pbogdan: how can one use nixUnstable to convert .drv to json? can't figure it out
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<Lisanna> ugh... I've tried three different ways to get this to work, but I'm getting stuck.
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<Lisanna> nix-build -A foo ./shell.nix => error: expression does not evaluate to a derivation (or a set or list of those)
<Lisanna> nix-build -A bar ./shell.nix => error: not an absolute path: ‘’
<Lisanna> nix-build -A baz ./shell.nix => tries to download a bunch of stuff, since I don't have the dependencies of pkgs.buildEnv installed I guess :/
<Lisanna> bar is my latest attempt, and I can't see anything wrong with it
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<paperdigits[m]> Using libvirtd, is there a way to declaratively manage storage pools?
<Lisanna> yegortimoshenko: nix show-derivation /nix/store/blah.drv
<yegortimoshenko> Lisanna: thank you!
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<Fare> Hi. I'm trying to install nixos from a chroot under Ubuntu. nixos-rebuild complains while building: "error: while setting up the build environment: cannot pivot old root directory onto ‘/nix/store/vv39fnhv8cmi63f36khclps09rk44zvg-users-groups.json.drv.chroot/real-root’: Invalid argument"
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<Fare> how can I make it work?
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<Lisanna> Plan 4 is to try to preload the /nix/store with the closure of baz, and hope to god that the hashes come out the same and it doesn't try to download a bunch of stuff x_x
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<Lisanna> Fare: Huh, didn't even know that was possible!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ebzzry opened pull request #32961: pell: 0.0.3 -> 0.0.4 (master...pell-0.0.4) https://git.io/vb9tg
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #32962: mkvtoolnix: 17.0.0 -> 19.0.0 (master...upd.mkvtoolnix) https://git.io/vb9tM
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lufia opened pull request #32963: google-app-engine-go-sdk: 1.9.55 -> 1.9.61 (master...update-gaego-sdk) https://git.io/vb9qT
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<fearlessKim[m]> mica: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#libvirtd there is an extraConfig so I would say yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko deleted yegortimoshenko-patch-1 at 014dcb0: https://git.io/vb9m8
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9mu
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 1efed45 Peter Hoeg: terragrunt: 0.13.0 -> 0.13.23
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<paperdigits[m]> fearlessKim: extraOpts is for passing arguments to libvirtd at start up, but storage pools doesn't seem to be an options there
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/fa2f609c7e7 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<bgamari> is there any way to set allowBroken for a single call to nix repl?
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<fearlessKim[m]> mica: can't you add https://libvirt.org/storage.html xml through extraConfig ?
<paperdigits[m]> fearlessKim: it doesn't read that way.
<paperdigits[m]> libvirtd doesn't take the xml file as an argument at startup
<paperdigits[m]> it seems like it is read from somewhere, but I don't know where.
<paperdigits[m]> you can set it with virsh
<paperdigits[m]> libvirtd.conf isn't an xml file though
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<fearlessKim[m]> mica how would you set the storage pools in normal libvirt ?
<paperdigits[m]> fearlessKim: virsh pool-list
<paperdigits[m]> and virsh pool-*
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] alunduil opened pull request #32964: remove siren-json from dont-distribute-packages (master...readd-siren-json) https://git.io/vb93n
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<paperdigits[m]> after enabling libvirtd and kvm, virsh pool-list doesn't show anything.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9GC
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d402bd6 José Romildo Malaquias: mkvtoolnix: 17.0.0 -> 19.0.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Phreedom pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9Gu
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ab623d8 Evgeny Egorochkin: luksRoot: add the missing ECB dependency to fix XTS support, resolves #30940
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<dieggsy> does anyone know the status on using nix with fish as login shell?
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<fearlessKim[m]> hum when a python package uses tox to run tests, it seems like packages disable tests. Is that the good behavior ?
<etu> dtzWill: I use fish as loginshell.
<etu> dtzWill: programs.fish.enable = true; users.extraUsers.etu.shell = pkgs.fish;
<etu> oh
<etu> the person went away (dieggsy), sorry dtzWill for that highlight.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] andersk opened pull request #32965: winusb: unstable-2017-01-30 -> woeusb 3.1.4 (master...woeusb) https://git.io/vb9WU
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32966: abcmidi: 2017.12.10 -> 2017.12.20 (master...abcmidi) https://git.io/vb9lJ
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* Fare compiles a kernel with the same options as galliumos and hopes that will work.
<Fare> What is the cheat to increase parallelism within a job being built, already?
<Fare> if I want to use more cores to build the kernel
<MichaelRaskin> Without restarting the build?
<ghostyy> MAKEFLAGS=-jn where n is the number of jobs
<ghostyy> but you need to restart the build for that
<ghostyy> although, maybe you could just kill it, set that, and start it again without cleaning
<MichaelRaskin> I would hope that all the methods not requiring the restart would be complicated (breaking isolation, all that)
<MichaelRaskin> No, it would use a new directory.
<MichaelRaskin> Injecting the object files from the old run might work.
<MichaelRaskin> I think kernel should have parallel builds enabled, so just --option build-cores 32 would work.
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<MichaelRaskin> You need to rebuild for that to get any effect.
<Fare> MichaelRaskin, I restarted the build; the kernel compilation was not that advanced anyway
<MichaelRaskin> So if the kernel is a part of the rebuild, you want to rebuild with the old kernel first.
<MichaelRaskin> No, I mean nixos-rebuild.
<Fare> I actually call nixos-install: the machine is not bootstrapped yet
<MichaelRaskin> nix.buildCores is in the configuration for nixos-install?
<MichaelRaskin> Not sure it will get used before the installation is complete.
<Fare> (trying to install nixos on a chromebook; apparently a normal nixos usb stick kind of works, as long as you use keyboard, mouse and ethernet over usb to compensate for missing drivers)
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<Fare> MichaelRaskin, I believe that nixos-install actually calls nixos-rebuild inside a carefully-crafted chroot
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<Fare> I previously tried to carefully craft the chroot myself from ubuntu, but failed.
<grantwu> hey does anyone want an example of how _not_ to suggest someone use Nix
<vaibhavsagar> yes please
<grantwu> just a sec
<Fare> (galliumos.org is a variant of xubuntu for chromebook)
<grantwu> Need to clean up my IRC logs
<MichaelRaskin> Fare: yes, but the configuration.nix is not going to actually change how the Nix build goes until the first system build is complete.
<MichaelRaskin> Unless some magic got added specifically to nixos-install just for that.
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<grantwu> vaibhavsagar: This is from #letsencrypt. http://sprunge.us/ebKO
<grantwu> hyper_ch: Feel free to tell me more about how Nix won't solve my problems here, instead of clogging up #letsencrypt
<Fare> I don't understand. The configuration.nix in /mnt is definitely used by nixos-install (via I believe nixos-rebuild) -- my changes to it definitely are used.
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<MichaelRaskin> Hm, maybe some magic dit get added to nixos-install.
<vaibhavsagar> hmm, sounds like me on a bad day :)
<Fare> afaict nixos-install is "just" setting up a chroot, copying nixos-rebuild to it, and calling it
<MichaelRaskin> Then the Nix options will be inherited up to the point the rebuild succeeds.
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<MichaelRaskin> grantwu: ouch. And that is actually why I periodically say on #nixos that we do not need visibility because right now we have process bottlenecks and removing them will help more than outreach to people we are not ready to help well.
<MichaelRaskin> Sorry that we still fail to prevent misguided outreach.
<Fare> grantwu: I have a working letsencrypt setup for nixos somehow. I remember it was a bitch to setup, and I am not sure I could operate it correctly :-(
<grantwu> And I don't even need to be outreached to :'( I have a merged PR to nixpkgs, I _know_ what Nix is
<Fare> software is a bitch. And then you exit.
<MichaelRaskin> As usual, misguided aim ends with friendly fire.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vb98V
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging d8a1b34 Tristan Carel: boost166: init at 1.66.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 0e37a2c Frederik Rietdijk: boost165: make it possible to build without numpy
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #32832: boost166: init at 1.66.0 (staging...boost/1_66) https://git.io/vbPxX
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8b69791 Robert Schütz: abcmidi: 2017.12.10 -> 2017.12.20
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e633e5c Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32966 from dotlambda/abcmidi...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #32961: pell: 0.0.3 -> 0.0.4 (master...pell-0.0.4) https://git.io/vb9tg
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<grantwu> Well, at least it did remind me to send that email >_>
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4ef36bf Anders Kaseorg: winusb: unstable-2017-01-30 -> woeusb 3.1.4...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7a0fab3 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32965 from andersk/woeusb...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2bb2428 Maximilian Bode: docker_compose: add darwin to platforms
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e86e984 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32842 from mbode/docker_compose_darwin...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #32842: docker_compose: add darwin to platforms (master...docker_compose_darwin) https://git.io/vbXEC
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #32945: makemkv: 1.10.7 -> 1.10.8 (master...makemkv-1.10.8) https://git.io/vbS0S
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32967: qmapshack: 1.9.1 -> 1.10.0 (master...qmapshack) https://git.io/vb94h
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #32968: tint2: 15.3 -> 16.0 (master...upd.tint2) https://git.io/vb9Bc
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #32970: vicious: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 (master...upd.vicious) https://git.io/vb9Rs
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<kuznero> Hi All!
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<kuznero> How do I check what my package depends on in nixos? I just built a simple haskell project and packaged and installed it and would like to see if it does not include things like dependency to a ghc compiler for example...
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<clever> kuznero: nix-store -qR
<dhess> clever: something odd is going on, really baffling and probably something really stupid. I can't get nix-env to honor a 'nixpkgs=...' in my NIX_PATH
<dhess> clever: any idea why that might be happening?
<kuznero> clever: it shows nothing... should I pass the path to a package?
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<srhb> kuznero: The store path, yes.
<srhb> dhess: echo $NIX_PATH ?
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<dhess> srhb: nixpkgs=/home/dhess/git/nixpkgs-channels
<kuznero> srhb: thanks, that works... and I do have dependency on ghc821 :( sad...
<dhess> I had this same config, as far as I can tell, anyway working on a different host
<dhess> and I've been doing it for a year. Now I'm trying to move that environment to a different NixOS box and now nix-env is a) ignoring my NIX_PATH and b) ignoring my overlays
<dhess> it's bizarre
<srhb> dhess: Shouldn't the nixpkgs path be the directory in which to find the nixpkgs directory?
<dhess> I'm sure it's something really dumb, too
<dhess> srhb: That's where it is. That's just a checked-out nixpkgs-channels git repo
<dhess> on a particular branch (channel)
<kuznero> Just reading through nixpkgs manual on building statically linked haskell binaries: "It’s important to realize, however, that most system libraries in Nix are built as shared libraries only, i.e. there is just no static library available that Cabal could link!" Does that mean there is just no way to produce fully statically linked binaries of haske
<kuznero> ll in NixOS?
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<vaibhavsagar> kuznero: have you tried justStaticExecutables?
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: nope, will investigate, thanks. Will that let me build fully statically linked binary?
<vaibhavsagar> I believe so
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: sounds great! thanks again!
<srhb> dhess: So you have nixpkgs-channels/nixpkgs ?
<vaibhavsagar> kuznero: let me know if it works for you :)
<kuznero> :D
<etu> Hey, today I have a NFS server with nixos and a client that talks nfsv3 to that and it works fine. My client wasts to talk nfsv4 now. It just says "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting" when using "-o vers=4"
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<dhess> srhb: no.. shit I forgot to put that in .nix-defexpr
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<dhess> ok now I'm getting a bit farther. it's choking on trying to evaluate gnuplot but that's progress
<srhb> Which part of hydra does the checking out of repositories? I want to give it a private key so it can check out a private repository.
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: should I try to combine justStaticExecutables with overriding cabal with `enableSharedExecutables = false` or justStaticExecutables does it all?
<vaibhavsagar> kuznero: justStaticExecutables does it all
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: excellent :) thanks
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<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: looks exactly what I need. Let's see what closure deps will show, ldd, and the size of binaries now :)
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: closure deps reduced significantly, there are only glibc, gcc and gmp left now
<vaibhavsagar> hmm, I think that's what the haskell documentation was referring to
<vaibhavsagar> maybe if you run `ldd` it'll still be dynamically linked to gmp and glibc
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: ldd though still shows a lot of deps to a lot of system libs. So, it is not like with golang where ldd just straight away says that it is not dynamically linked
<vaibhavsagar> right
<vaibhavsagar> so I think you'll have to use FHSUserEnv or Docker to get fully static builds
<kuznero> you mean without nix?
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<vaibhavsagar> I'm not sure about the details of FHSUserEnv, but with Docker yes, I mean without Nix
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<dhess> srhb: so it was a combination of that missing .nix-defexpr/nixpkgs symlink and a really old nix-env on the system I was migrating to. Thanks for the hint, that got me going in the right direction.
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: in that case I will need to make this `static` config in cabal file and just run a simple docker build?
<vaibhavsagar> kuznero: that's one option. I just found this, have you tried it? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/6855
<vaibhavsagar> basically enter a nix-shell and use the cabal approach
<kuznero> will try it now
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vb9EF
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 3d1a948 volth: dejavu_fonts: make relative symlink (/cc #32912)...
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<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: after running `cabal configure --disable-executable-dynamic --ghc-option=-optl=-static --ghc-option=-optl=-pthread`, `cabal build` fails with lots of ld.gold errors :(
<vaibhavsagar> kuznero: can you use a different linker?
<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: I am unsure how to do it... do you have an example?
<vaibhavsagar> I'm not sure either :(. in your .cabal file: `ld-option: -fuse-ld=ld` as per https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43243322/how-to-link-with-the-gnu-gold-linker-instead-of-ld-in-haskell
<kuznero> hm, will try it now, thanks
<vaibhavsagar> this is further than I've ever tried to go with Haskell+Nix, I can't be of much help unfortunately :(
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<kuznero> vaibhavsagar: `-fuse-ld=bfd` seems to be getting closer than the default one. But it complains that it cannot find: -lm -lgmp -lrt -ldl -lpthread -lc. Exactly those system libs produced with nix-based approach we tried before.
<kuznero> I would guess it is not time to try Dockerfile :)
<kuznero> s/not/now/ :)
<etu> So, nfs4 host on nixos? Any hints on how to do that?
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<srhb> Any idea what this means? The .jobsets jobset must only have a single job named 'jobsets'
<srhb> When trying to declare a declaratively specced jobset
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32964: remove siren-json from dont-distribute-packages (master...readd-siren-json) https://git.io/vb93n
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9g2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cfa636c Alex Brandt: remove network-uri-json from dont-distribute-packages...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8cb0b71 Peter Simons: Merge pull request #32959 from alunduil/readd-network-uri-json...
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<srhb> It's... What. I need to first make a spec.json that points to a nix expression that then generates a new spec.json?
<srhb> I can't figure out why this extra indirection makes any sense.
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<lezed1> I'm trying to run a program that is only released as a precompiled binary and I get the issue
<lezed1> oops, pressed enter too early
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<lezed1> I'm trying to run a program that is only released as a precompiled binary and I get the issue `bash: ./cloudflare-warp: No such file or directory`. I'm not sure how to fix this since the file does exist. Any ideas how I can fix this?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9wv
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 6d80870 Eelco Dolstra: release.nix: Use fetchTarball and fetchGit...
<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master aa43cbb Eelco Dolstra: Check aws-sdk-cpp version
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra closed pull request #1748: release.nix: use 'nixpkgs' argument, even if nixpkgs in NIX_PATH (master...fix/use-nixpkgs-argument) https://git.io/vb1Pq
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<pkill9> lezed1: did you download the correct binary for your architecture? that error happens when you try to runa binary that's been compiled for another architecture
<lezed1> yes, it's 64bit (as is my system)
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<lezed1> output from file: `cloudflare-warp: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, stripped` and uname -m x86_64
<lezed1> everything there looks fine to me
<lezed1> ldd doesn't have any missing libraries either
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh closed pull request #32970: vicious: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 (master...upd.vicious) https://git.io/vb9Rs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9w2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 901f434 Robert Schütz: qmapshack: 1.9.1 -> 1.10.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2e988b1 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32967 from dotlambda/qmapshack...
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<srhb> pkill9 lezed1 That's not the problem
<srhb> The problem is that the interpreter does not exist.
<srhb> lezed1: You will need to use patchelf to patch the location of ld-linux.so
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #32972: linux-testing-bcachefs: 4.11.2017.08.23 -> 4.13.2017.12.21, bcachefs-tools: 2017-08-28 -> 2017-12-21 (master...bcachefs) https://git.io/vb9oY
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dywedir opened pull request #32973: zstd: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.3 (master...zstd) https://git.io/vb9Kc
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<__Sander__> hmm newest android sdk seems to require glibc 2.25
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<superherointj> Is it too hard to get Gnome working in NixOS with latest Nvidia drivers?
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<etu> superherointj: Huh? No? Works for me at home with latest nixos-unstable
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3d1a9485e28 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vb9XL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 383dbf6 Frederik Rietdijk: python36: 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9d1a524 dywedir: zstd: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.3
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b269f68 Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #32973 from dywedir/zstd...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #32974: Thunderbird bin 52.5.2 [Security fix] (master...thunderbird-bin-52.5.2) https://git.io/vb9Xo
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aprokurov opened pull request #32975: Added a gstreamer ind dependencies (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vb91F
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb91p
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e6c3dcf Michael Weiss: android-studio: 3.0.0.18 -> 3.0.1.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32976: zookeeper: 3.4.10 -> 3.4.11 (master...patch-84) https://git.io/vb9yB
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9Hk
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master bd424fd Shea Levy: ghc-exactprint: Fix build on GHC-8.2
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<asymmetric> so this pr of mine was merged: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32904
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9Qq
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 302202c Shea Levy: haskellPackages.monad-memo: Fix testsuite
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<asymmetric> how do i follow its progress through the CI
<asymmetric> and eventually landing in the unstable channel?
<asymmetric> also, does anyone have time to review this? :) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32919
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb9Qw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7f410df Shea Levy: haskell-modules: Request older haddock-library to match haddock-api.
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<pkill9> i've installed pidgin and purple-facebook (facebook for libpurple) but i can't add a facebook account in pidgin.
* hyper_ch heard facebook is evil
<pkill9> :P
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<srhb> pkill9: Looking at the pidgin definition, it looks like you're supposed to override the plugins argument to include it.
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<yegortimoshenko> how to extract name from nix store artifact?
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<asymmetric> or is the unstable channel updated manually, when someone merges master into the `nixos-unstable` branch?
<asymmetric> is there docs for this stuff i can read up on?
<srhb> asymmetric: nixos-unstable updates when the test set for master succeeds
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<srhb> asymmetric: The rightmost column is the relevant testset.
<srhb> asymmetric: On trunk-combined, when every row is green (leftmost is newest) the channel gets bumped :)
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<srhb> Er, trunk-combined:tested
<gchristensen> semi-related, here is a graph of when they've happened historically: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html
<asymmetric> nice, thanks srhb
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] berce opened pull request #32979: rhvoice: init at 2017-09-24 (master...upstream-rhvoice) https://git.io/vb95a
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<asymmetric> i'm not on nixos, so i guess nixpgs-unstable is the channel i should be looking at
<asymmetric> *nixpkgs
<gchristensen> !which channel
<asymmetric> <3
<gchristensen> :)
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<asymmetric> so when looking at a channel, e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable#tabs-constituents
<asymmetric> if the left-most column is all green, that means the channel is on its way to being updated?
<srhb> Or has been.
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<srhb> asymmetric: Hmm, I understand your confusion, looks like it should have updated. I'm not sure if the update scripts run only at some point in time and check if the tests did succeed or whenever the tests succeed.
<srhb> Or maybe it got stuck. That happens a lot.
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<gchristensen> srhb, asymmetric: the secret ingredient that hasn't been satisfied yet is the evaluation has to have zero queued jobs, they all must be built / failed / aborted: https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1420452
<srhb> TIL, thanks gchristensen :)
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<gchristensen> we should write that down somewhere..!
<srhb> a !where channel-update would be good.
<gchristensen> something along those lines would be good, but I'd never remember that triggger
<srhb> True...
<srhb> We just need a clippy-like that guesses at when you need the information!
<srhb> :-P
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<gchristensen> chatbots! /me runs away
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<joepie91> fwiw, I've seen pretty good success rates with bots that trigger on certain keywords with an auto-answer
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<joepie91> or well, key phrases
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<asymmetric> is there some sort of unofficial wiki?
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<vcunat> asymmetric: nixos.wiki
<vcunat> https://nixos.wiki (to be clear)
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<gchristensen> anyonewant to move https://gist.github.com/grahamc/c60578c6e6928043d29a427361634df6 to the wiki?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9Ac
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8869311 taku0: thunderbird-bin: 52.5.0 -> 52.5.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 62c5b71 taku0: thunderbird: 52.5.0 -> 52.5.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c082544 Vladimír Čunát: Merge #32974: thunderbird: 52.5.0 -> 52.5.2 (security)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat closed pull request #32974: thunderbird: 52.5.0 -> 52.5.2 [Security fix] (master...thunderbird-bin-52.5.2) https://git.io/vb9Xo
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb9hJ
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ef1acca Yegor Timoshenko: chrootenv: print sysctl command for Debian users, fixes #32876
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c03663a Yegor Timoshenko: chrootenv: bind-mount all dirs in /, symlink files, closes #32877
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0234cd4 Yegor Timoshenko: chrootenv: replace env whitelist with blacklist, closes #32878
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<gleber_> Anyone knows where top-level `callPackage` is actually defined?.. I am unable to find it O_O
<gchristensen> I thought for sure I'd be able to answer that, gleber_, and I cannot
<gleber_> gchristensen: I suspect it comes from `makeScope`, but I can't find where
<gleber_> Ah! `splice.nix` seem to define it
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<gleber_> top-level-default.nix -> import stage.nix -> import splice.nix -> callPackage
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<srhb> customisation.nix appears to be the ultimate origin.
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<gleber_> srhb: yes, so the final chain looks to be `top-level/impure.nix -> top-level/default.nix -> import stage.nix -> import splice.nix -> callPackage -> customisation.nix:makeScope`
<srhb> Indeed. :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vb9jV
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 9b44037 Vladimír Čunát: Merge #32974: thunderbird: 52.5.0 -> 52.5.2 (security)...
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<hyper_ch> hi vcunat
<vcunat> hi :-)
<hyper_ch> being busy again here? :)
<vcunat> I'm always busy with something
<vcunat> my TODO is limitless
<gchristensen> !m vcunat
<[0__0]> You're doing good work, vcunat!
<hyper_ch> busy eating, busy sleeping, busy watching tv :)
<gchristensen> !v vcunat
<{^_^}> Take care of yourself and consider a vacation, vcunat!
<vcunat> For most December I'm on vacation - from the paid work, that is.
<gchristensen> :)
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<MoreTea> gchristensen: I have a raspberry pi 3 for a $JOB thing that should run local image recognition software.
<gchristensen> cool!
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<MoreTea> I'm trying to find out how to build an sd card image for it, can you point me in the right direction?
<MoreTea> the wiki (https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM/Raspberry_Pi) does not really answer that
<gchristensen> 1) join #nixos-aarch64 2) ping people in there :P notably, samuel, andi, dez
<gchristensen> 3) contribute lots to the wiki 4) sign up for https://github.com/nix-community/aarch64-build-box, 5) fix packages you need :D
<gchristensen> MoreTea: ^
<MoreTea> thanks!
<gchristensen> you're welcome!
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<vcunat> pies for image recognition? Reminds mi of the LumiGuide talk :-)
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<MoreTea> vcunat: heh, it's not for them. A company wants our cloud expertise with IoT stuff, but they can't provide hardware. So I'm re-building part of their product, hopefully in a few hours with Nix and a raspberry pi 3.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbHfK
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 02efc76 Shea Levy: gurobipy: Bump to 7.5.2
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] flokli opened pull request #32983: virtualbox: 5.2.2 -> 5.2.4 (master...virtualbox-5.2.4) https://git.io/vbHJe
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] bgamari opened pull request #1754: Fix adding paths to the store (try 3) (master...dump-fix) https://git.io/vbHJ2
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 7 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbHJX
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a0a692b Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_control_center: clean up
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e6936dd Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_keyring: clarify Python version & enable tests
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<vcunat> Oh, IoT :-) Hopefully nix will help to make them way less crappy than the average IoT device.
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<gchristensen> hmm I keep getting "error: all build users are currently in use; consider creating additional users and adding them to the ‘nixbld’ group" on this box
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<gchristensen> despite maxJobs = 96 and I have 96 build users and I'm going through the daemon
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<rnhmjoj[m]> is it intended for texlive "scheme-minimal" to installs a tool for typesetting gregorian chants?
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<rnhmjoj[m]> it's hardly essential
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<vcunat> rnhmjoj[m]: the schemes and collections are supposed to be as defined upstream
<vcunat> if you think we digress in this, or if it's a large difference in space, file a nixpkgs issue
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #32985: coqPackages.contribs: recurse into the nested set (master...coq-contribs-recurse) https://git.io/vbHka
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<rnhmjoj[m]> i was just wondering how it got pulled in because looking at the package sources it doesn't seem directly included
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbHLt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5e8a078 Shea Levy: Disable tests on haskellPackages.protobuf
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<asymmetric> how does one find out if the channel update of nixpkgs-unstable is somehow stuck?
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<asymmetric> if i look at https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable#tabs-constituents all tests are green
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<asymmetric> but i don't see any updates if i run `nix-channel --update`
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<asymmetric> yep, from 3 days ago..
<asymmetric> i don't really understand the workflow
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<asymmetric> i've been told that https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable#tabs-constituents is the place to look to see how the build of a new unstable is going
<asymmetric> but i don't understand how that relates to git
<asymmetric> to the nixpkgs-unstable branch, in this case
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixpkgs-17.09-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9b4403733da (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-17.09-darwin)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbHtS
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 25576df Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.contribs: recurse into the nested set
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2447452 Vincent Laporte: coqPackages.contribs.containers: fix url
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 25ef9fa John Wiegley: Merge pull request #32985 from vbgl/coq-contribs-recurse...
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<rnhmjoj[m]> asymmetric: the latest successful build is from 3 days ago, the other more recent ones failed at least one test or some test has not yet been executed
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<rnhmjoj[m]> the git repo is then update with the commit of that build, i don't know whether it's done manually or automatically though.
<gchristensen> it is automatic
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<asymmetric> the latest build still has one queued job, ok
<asymmetric> but the one before, which is also from today, has only green checkmarks
<asymmetric> so why didn't it result in an update in the nixpkgs-unstable channel?
<asymmetric> by "the one before", i mean https://hydra.nixos.org/build/66436928
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<rnhmjoj[m]> ah, this is the page you need to check: https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/trunk-combined/tested#tabs-constituents
<gchristensen> that one also has queued jobs, asymmetric
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<asymmetric> gchristensen: which one do you mean?
<gchristensen> "the one before", https://hydra.nixos.org/build/66436928
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<gchristensen> from https://hydra.nixos.org/build/66436928 click "Evaluation ..." in "part of: Evaluation ..."
<gchristensen> then you'll see Queued Jobs: 8
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<asymmetric> i see.. so what do the checkmarks in https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/unstable#tabs-constituents represent?
<gchristensen> those are specific jobs which must pass. all of those must be success, _and_ every job in the evaluation must be finished for the channel to advance
<gchristensen> (every job in the evaluation must be finished, but not necessarily successfully)
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<asymmetric> ah cool
<asymmetric> should i write this up somewhere in the wiki?
<gchristensen> please
<samueldr> yes please!
<gchristensen> @
<gchristensen> s/@/!/...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c66ebb Shea Levy: hadoop-rpc: Fix build on ghc 8.2
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<asymmetric> can i find the merge commit of an individual pr in hydra? i.e. from a contributor's point of view, how do i know where my contribution is in hydra?
<gchristensen> that is a tough question to answer right now
<gchristensen> however
<gchristensen> asymmetric: https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/trunk you can see the advancement of nixpkgs versions over time
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<asymmetric> ok
<asymmetric> about the hydra wiki page: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Hydra
<asymmetric> it seems to focus on how to set up your own hydra
<gchristensen> indeed
<asymmetric> is that page the right place for the channel stuff we just discussed?
<gchristensen> perhaps make a page for hydra.nixos.org?
<gchristensen> or a page for "channel release process
<gchristensen> or a page for "channels
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<hyper_ch> hmmm, at first it says I should use qemuPackage and when I use it, it keeps complaining https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/1ff8b455
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e32bc0b Shea Levy: haskellPackages.lenz: Fix against latest hs-functors
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<AntonLatukha[m]> Hey )
<AntonLatukha[m]> Does anyone knows how in Hydra do Build Steps?
<AntonLatukha[m]> There seems to be a possibility, but I can not find info on this.
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<gchristensen> build steps are simply dependencies that need to be built prior to the main derivation being built
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<AntonLatukha[m]> Thank you Graham )
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<gchristensen> you're welcome!
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<hyper_ch> so why does nixos tell me to use qemuPackage instead of enableKVM and when I do so it complains?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] shlevy pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbH3S
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ea9b677 Shea Levy: haskellPackages.coordinate: Fix build on ghc 8.2
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<asymmetric> i don't think i can create pages on the nixos.wiki
<hyper_ch> you need to login
<hyper_ch> then you can create
<hyper_ch> to create a new page, just enter the url you want it to be available at
<samueldr> (there's no form, you either have to link to a page that doesn't exist yet or edit the URL)
<hyper_ch> e.g. want a personal page: https://nixos.wiki/asymmetric
<samueldr> no!
<samueldr> (sorry)
<samueldr> User:Asummetric
<samueldr> (otherwise edits won't attribute to the right page)
<samueldr> oh, obvously, spell it right :)
<asymmetric> nice, thx :)
<samueldr> n/p, we have a bot that announces changes, and sometimes conversations about the wiki in #nixos-wiki, </plug>
<samueldr> (channel presence is not mandatory for wiki use)
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<Rick[29SMPittsbu> is it possible to run nixos in windows 10 without first having to install ubuntu?
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<samueldr> you mean in the Windows for Linux Subsystem?
<Rick[29SMPittsbu> yeah, like they have fedora, haven't checked if they added some other distro
<Rick[29SMPittsbu> well even better, can you run nixos in windows 10 without any of that.
<Rick[29SMPittsbu> nix can run on what OS's?
<samueldr> I don't thinkg "nixos" itself can run in WSL (prove me wrong!) but nix does
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<samueldr> nix itself runs on Linux (or something linuxy enough like WSL) or Darwin
<samueldr> not that it couldn't run on other POSIXy platforms, afaik it's that the porting effort isn't done
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<moet> is there a way to find the revision and hash of the current system version of nixpackages?
<moet> `nixos-version --revision` gets me the revision, but i'm looking also for the sha256
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<moet> looks like you can get the sha256 via `nix-prefetch-git http://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs $(nixos-version --revision)` but it takes forever
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<moet> based on https://nixos.org/nix-dev/2015-June/017333.html i have two choices:
<moet> (1) use `nix-prefetch-git` to automatically fetch the repo and compute the hash
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<moet> (2) enter a fake hash into fetchFromGithub and then parse the real hash from the error message
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #32987: adapta-backgrounds: 0.5.1.1 -> 0.5.2.1 (master...upd.adapta-backgrounds) https://git.io/vbHCZ
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<oleks> what would be the nixos-equivalent of linux-libc-dev in Debian?
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<mikaunix> Hello, I've got a question, I'm afraid it's a pretty dumb one. I'm new to nixos, trying to figure out simple stuff for now, and while trying to find how to control DPMS, I try to set my xserver configuration, (using https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/services/x11/xserver.nix )
<mikaunix> Apparently though, xrandrOptions does not exist in xserver....
<mikaunix> I might have misunderstood something, but I really don't see it.
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<samueldr> mikaunix: did you install 17.09?
<samueldr> (because looking at master in the repository will show you the options for unstable/18.03)
<samueldr> now, xrandrOptions isn't used as named in the nixos options, if you looke here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-17.09/nixos/modules/services/x11/xserver.nix#L367
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<samueldr> this is done to allow setting multiple time those options
<samueldr> to find options, I much prefer the nixos options searcher here: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#xrandr
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<samueldr> (though it's only valid for the stable version at the point in time you're looking at it, meaning that older releases and unstable may have different options)
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<Fare> hi. I want to debug a kernel extra config; how do I start a nix-shell to rebuild specifically the kernel package and give me an opportunity to tinker when it fails?
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<Fare> BTW, I found how to chroot into NixOS from within Ubuntu. Slightly convoluted, but possible
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<Fare> involves: mount --bind /NixOS/nix /nix and a few symlinks
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<mhsjlw[m]> So, how can I install a package like Discord?
<mhsjlw[m]> I believe I am on unstable right now
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<tokudan[m]> is there a way to do an imports = [ (pkgs.fetchFromGitHub {...}) ]; ? right now I get an infinite recursion error
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] aij opened pull request #32988: altcoins.aeon: init at 0.9.14.0 (master...aeon) https://git.io/vbHBu
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<simukis> so what's the right way to globally "install" a clang-based stdenv that is capable of compiling both c and c++ code?
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<Lisanna> simukis: what do you mean by "install"?
<Lisanna> for building with Nix, use clangStdenv
<Lisanna> i.e. clangStdenv.mkDerivation
<simukis> what should I specify in configuration.nix so it appears globally (in /run/current-system/...).
<simukis> Lisanna: I’ve experienced trouble building llvm with that
<Lisanna> simukis: the attribute name is just "clang"
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<simukis> I did try both just "clang" and "clangStdenv", but neither could complete building llvm; both failed fairly early with errors related to system headers.
<Lisanna> that will install a functional clang
<simukis> Now I tried libcxxStdenv, but that doesn’t put clang nor cc in global namespace
<Lisanna> the package you want is called "clang"
<Lisanna> put that in your nixos systempackages
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nix] dtzWill opened pull request #1755: fetchGit: Fix handling of local repo when not using 'master' branch (master...fix/fetchGit-clean-branch) https://git.io/vbHR6
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<Lisanna> environment.systemPackages = [ clang ]
<Lisanna> then you can invoke clang from a regular shell
<simukis> but it won’t make `cc` a `clang` -- or rather I won’t have a `cc` at all
<Lisanna> it will make a "clang" available in your PATH.
<Lisanna> I don't know about "cc"
<simukis> that’s the point of the `*Stdenv` packages, as I understand it
<Lisanna> the stdenv packages are for writing Nix derivations that compile programs
<simukis> mhm
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<Lisanna> they provide compilers and a number of other tools to build, install, and fixup programs from source
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbH0i
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e0a356d Bert Moens: espeak: 2016-08-28 → 1.49.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 857a71c Bert Moens: speechd: 0.8.5 -> 0.8.8, refactored
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #32924: speechd: 0.8.5 -> 0.8.8, refactored (master...speechd) https://git.io/vbyE1
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<Lisanna> If I understand correctly, if A has buildInputs = [B], and B has buildInputs = [C], then the closure of A should include C, right?
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<Dezgeg> not necessarily, e.g. B could statically link a library of C
<Lisanna> how does Nix tell the difference?
<Lisanna> also, wouldn't you have B.nativeBuildInputs = [C] then?
<Dezgeg> no
<Dezgeg> the difference is whether B contains the store path for C
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<Dezgeg> contains as in grep, basically
<Lisanna> ...oh
<Lisanna> that's...
<Lisanna> oh, I think I remember reading about that before
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<Lisanna> okay, so just because you have A.buildInputs = [B], if the final derivation doesn't have any actual references to /nix/store/B, then the closure of A won't contain B
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<Dezgeg> yes
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<Lisanna> okay, thank you.
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3d1a9485e28 (from 13 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09)
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<gchristensen> w00t
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<grantwu> oh no
<grantwu> time to bootstrap Rust again?
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<Fare> alternatively, is there a good way to make a kernel package from a precompiled binary from another OS distribution?
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<samueldr> Fare, semi-unrelated, is there anything specific you need with the kernel? in case there's already a solution to your needs
<samueldr> (I don't know if there is such a way though, and I'm not sure how to use nix-shell to play around with the kernel)
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<moet> can i override the `.env` thing in a shell.nix? i'd like to additional packages to it..
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<catern> hey #nixos, how should I create a wrapper script for my Python command-line-application? (actually a flask app)
<catern> does the setuptools console_scripts thingy Just Work? that would be really great
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] veprbl opened pull request #32989: dblatex: 0.3.7 -> 0.3.10, also fix for new texlive (master...dblatex_fix) https://git.io/vbHVf
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<Lisanna> Is it possible to, from within a Nix expression, get all of the dependencies required for instantiating some expression? I know how to get the run-time dependencies of a built derivation, but I need to know exactly what I need to instantiate something.
<catern> Lisanna: is the expression a derivation?
<Lisanna> yeah
<Lisanna> I need to be able to evaluate it in an offline environment, so I want to pre-load the Nix store with everything it will need to instantiate it
<catern> I think there is an attribute on derivations that might give you what you want
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<catern> why do you need to do that from within a Nix expression though?
<catern> if you relaxed that requirement you could just use nix-store --requisites
<Lisanna> I'm using runInLinuxVM to prepare a disk image with a /nix
<Lisanna> nix-store --requisites isn't quite what I want I think
<Lisanna> that's the closure of the built derivation, I need the list of everything required to *build* it
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<catern> nix-store --requisites on the low-level derivation, not the output
<Lisanna> low-level derivation?
<catern> the .drv file
<Lisanna> oh
<catern> there's an example in the nix-store manual, see "Print the build-time dependencies of svn"
<Lisanna> oh, I see in the manual
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<Lisanna> alright, so then from an output path, I just need a way to get the .drv
<Lisanna> then I should have everything I need
<Lisanna> --deriver?
<catern> yes
<catern> but you can't do this inside a Nix expression
<Lisanna> I know, this is in a runInLinuxVM, the output paths come from a dollar curly evaluation
<catern> oh, then carry on :)
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<catern> Lisanna: exportReferencesGraph is what you would want otherwise, I believe
<catern> see the manual
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<Lisanna> yeah, I'm also using that
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<gchristensen> clever: ping?
<clever> gchristensen: pong
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #32990: nixos/boot: tmpOnTmpfs -> tmpfsOnTmp (master...20171222.233608/tmpfsOnTmp) https://git.io/vbHrJ
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