<clever>
also, using a git rev would have been better
<gchristensen>
asymmetric: most people use the "tofu" method
<clever>
the problem, is that the filename is based on the rev and hash
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<clever>
and both network and protocol have v1.4.0.tar.gz
<gchristensen>
"trust of first use": put in the wrong hash, have nix tell them what the rightone is
<asymmetric>
gchristensen: that's how i got myself in this situation though
<gchristensen>
oh
<clever>
if you used a rev, the filenames wouldnt have matched, and it would have missed
<clever>
asymmetric: that "wrong" hash was right for another file
<gchristensen>
oh, yeah
<gchristensen>
change / break the hash :)
<clever>
it has to be a hash that doesnt match any file you have downloaded
<MP2E>
that's what I usually do. I use "nix-hash --type sha256 --base32 Gimmick.jpg", gimmick.jpg being an image of my github avatar (any random file works that isn't going to be an input to a nixpkgs derivation)
<MP2E>
though that still has a chance of colliding i suppose
<MP2E>
still, unlikely!
<asymmetric>
doesn't nix check that the hash belongs to the right repo?
<clever>
nix doesnt understand git
<clever>
it just has a name and hash
<gchristensen>
asymmetric: nix doesn't care where it came from as long as the hash was correct
<clever>
which form a storepath
<asymmetric>
ah, good point
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<NixOS_GitHub>
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<samae>
hey, any reason why using grep in runCommand would systematically fail?
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<ij>
If something's in my nix-channel --list, should it also appear in $NIX_PATH after profile.d/nix.sh evaluation?
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[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbygp
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging c303047 Vladimír Čunát: fetchurl on Darwin: gssSupport = false (see 9b54a00160)...
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<ij>
samae, How does it fail exactly? You've posted no debug info.
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<Wizek>
Would someone who can read nix (hopefully better than I do currently) be able to tell me how I could override a non-haskell dependency going through reflex-platform's project development workflow?
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<i-am-the-slime>
Probably easier if I just install a VM with ubuntu on it :D
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<samae>
Is there any way to get the list of IPs assigned to the machines, in the case of virtualbox dep, at build configurations time?
<samae>
in nixops ^^^
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<samae>
I mean, I know an /etc/hosts is generated for every machine
<samae>
But I really need to be able to add "aliases" (and I don't want to set up a full DNS service)
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<Lisanna>
hey, maybe I'm just misunderstanding something here... but I'm trying to get nixpkgs copied somewhere as part of a derivation. but cp ${<nixpkgs>} ... isn't copying nixpkgs, instead it's copying a bunch of stuff that would be in a /nix/store (derivations and products). I thought <nixpkgs> evaluates to a location containing the channel files (default.nix, etc.)?
<tilpner>
Lisanna - ${/any/path} copies that path into the store
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<Lisanna>
tilpner: yeah, I figured as much, but I would like it to always reliably be whatever nixpkgs is set to in the NIX_PATH of the derivation itself
<tilpner>
Lisanna - So ${<nixpkgs>} first copies <nixpkgs> into the store, then calls cp /nix/store/.../ ...
<Lisanna>
right, so <nixpkgs> goes into the store as /nix/store/foo, and then cp is run on /nix/store/foo, so shouldn't that still just copy ./default.nix etc.?
<Lisanna>
not sure why I'm ending up with *the entire store* ):
<tilpner>
I'll need commands and output to answer that properly
<Lisanna>
huh, okay
<tilpner>
It's not clear what you mean by entire store
<tilpner>
It should copy more than just default.nix
<tilpner>
But it should copy all of /nix/store into /nix/store/...
<tilpner>
*But it shouldn't copy all of /nix/store into /nix/store/...
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<Lisanna>
okay, so if I put a builtins.toString in front of it, it resolves to /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/
<Lisanna>
which, when I ls, has the Nix expressions in it that I'm expecting
<Lisanna>
but, it's not copied into the /nix store, since it's just a string now :/
<Lisanna>
so, those commands are failing now because it's giving an absolute path on my system, which is outside the sandbox (let alone the virtual machine), so it can't access it like that
<tilpner>
Ahh, that's what you're trying to do. Can you revert to "${<nixpkgs>}", and describe what's bad about that, again?
<Lisanna>
sure
<tilpner>
If I understood your correctly, you want it to copy to the store, and then cp /nix/store/... $mountPoint/nixpkgs, which this should do
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<Lisanna>
when I revert it to ${<nixpkgs>}, the result I get is:
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[nixpkgs] markus1189 opened pull request #32932: bepasty: Add `checkInput` for tests (master...bepasty-fix) https://git.io/vbyMA
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<Lisanna>
"/nix/store/k8g2ma0sg58mzfjr1my8hys8gm374yqv-nixpkgs" gets printed (From the echo)
<Lisanna>
then, the ls prints: "02xjvflg03d9wlzdw1ig54rgwa32jwxq-findutils-4.6.0\n0hwra7yv9rdmg32slmk463a3l25zp36g-pcre-8.41\n0ns4r436sp18fgjf3njp7965j44z327y-paxctl-0.9..."
<tilpner>
Okay, just to check: ls -la $(nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs) returns the expected default.nix?
<Lisanna>
just on my regular shell?
<tilpner>
Yes
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<Lisanna>
the result is "/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs -> ."
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[nixpkgs] andir opened pull request #32936: gopass: init at 1.6.6 (master...add-gopass) https://git.io/vbyDR
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<Lisanna>
'/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs' is what I expect ${<nixpkgs>} to put into the store for me
<Lisanna>
and it's what ${builtins.toString <nixpkgs>} evaluates to
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<Lisanna>
maybe ${builtins.toPath (builtins.toString <nixpkgs>)} would work
<Lisanna>
but that looks silly
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<Lisanna>
and here's the weird part... ls ${<nixpkgs>} has extra stuff in it that is *not* in nixpkgs, like, it has custom stuff that I've built
<Lisanna>
it's like ${<nixpkgs>} is instead evaluating to /nix/store
<tilpner>
But you already tested against that: "/nix/store/k8g2ma0sg58mzfjr1my8hys8gm374yqv-nixpkgs" gets printed (From the echo)
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<Lisanna>
right, /nix/store/k8g2ma0sg58mzfjr1my8hys8gm374yqv-nixpkgs contains thigns that only /nix/store can contain
<tilpner>
I guess I'll have to try this locally
<Lisanna>
stuff from nixpkgs and stuff I've build with nix-build
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<Lisanna>
toPath toString <nixpkgs> doesn't work... I guess there's a difference between path values and "path values" (it's not being copied into the store ):)
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<tilpner>
Lisanna - What's a valid value for "partition"?
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<Lisanna>
so, that function boots an existing disk image that you pass in as srcImg
<Lisanna>
partition is which partition of srcImg you want to mount
<tilpner>
Actually, nevermind, we can probably reduce this
<Lisanna>
yeah
<Lisanna>
shouldn't require runInLinuxVM to reproduce
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<Lisanna>
just open nix-repl
<Lisanna>
':l <nixpkgs>'
<Lisanna>
'a = "${<nixpkgs>}"'
<Lisanna>
'a'
<Lisanna>
then take the result, go to your regular shell, and run "ls" on it
<Lisanna>
in my case, it prints the entire universe and then some
<gchristensen>
PlasmaStar: you mentioned something w.r.t. censorship, what did you mean?
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<tilpner>
Lisanna - I put this into lisanna.nix: with import <nixpkgs> {}; writeScript "foo" ''cp -a ${<nixpkgs>} /tmp/nixpkgs''
<Lisanna>
I'd just start with an echo first..
<Lisanna>
or an ls
<tilpner>
Lisanna - Then $(nib /tmp/lisanna.nix) and ls /tmp/nixpkgs shows the content of my <nixpkgs>
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<Lisanna>
as in, default.nix etc.?
<tilpner>
Yes
<Lisanna>
:|
<tilpner>
What happens for you?
<Lisanna>
I get the same results you do
<Lisanna>
wtf
<Lisanna>
try the nix-repl thing
<tilpner>
As a last resort, try replacing ${<nixpkgs>} with ${path}
<Lisanna>
yeah.... trying hard to avoid that
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<tilpner>
Lisanna - Is it that bad? I mean literally path, this is not a placeholder
<Lisanna>
err, what is ${path} ?
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<Lisanna>
oh... is it a special symbol?
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<tilpner>
That path provided by nixpkgs
<tilpner>
*+is
<Lisanna>
nix-repl> "${path}"
<Lisanna>
this hangs
<tilpner>
Give it a few seconds
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<Lisanna>
okay, it finished
<Lisanna>
okay, will that always be nixpkgs?
<tilpner>
It will always be nixpkgs. It will not always be <nixpkgs>
<tilpner>
That's an advantage IMO
<Lisanna>
huh, okay
<Lisanna>
yeah, I guess so
<Lisanna>
...where does "path" come from though?
<tilpner>
In my setup, find $(nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs) | wc -l => 4
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<Lisanna>
tilpner: thanks for the tip about pkgs.path, that seems to be exactly what I needed.
<tilpner>
Well, it's not quite the same, but it should work for the traditional channel setup
<Lisanna>
so, you said that it's vanilla nixpkgs, not *my* nixpkgs?
<Lisanna>
so, one potential thing I need to avoid is having a nixpkgs installed on the disk image that's different from the one being used to build the derivation that's running the runInLinuxVM in the first place
<Lisanna>
actually, that shouldn't matter
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<Lisanna>
since users on the disk image won't be issuing nix-build on products of my derivation... I always use direct paths to things I've installed in the disk image /nix/store. Adding nixpkgs is more of a formality at this point, it won't be used for anything
<Lisanna>
but, nix-shell requires .nix-defexpr to exist, and nix-channel needs a channel before it creates that dir, so have to have one :/
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<Lisanna>
okay, dumb question: how do I then proceed to add that $mountpoint/nixpkgs as a channel? it says it needs to be a URL, and /nixpkgs isn't a URL.
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<Lisanna>
the man page isn't too helpful :/
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<tilpner>
Are you sure nix-shell uses defexpr? I was under the impression only nix-env needs that
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<tilpner>
And you don't *need* to use channels at all, I'm Fine™ with just NIX_PATH
<Lisanna>
oh, I'm dumb
<Lisanna>
I was trying to import <nixpkgs> in a nix expression on the disk image
<Lisanna>
so it was trying to find nixpkgs
<srhb>
The hydra manual doesn't mention anything about creating channels. Is there a nice example somewhere?
<Lisanna>
ugh, this is tricky
<Lisanna>
I need buildEnv, but buildEnv is a functor... I can't just copy it into the image's /nix/store and have it be available...
<Lisanna>
srhb: are you trying to create a channel with hydra specifically?
<tilpner>
Lisanna - If you want to save image space (about 110M), you can store nixpkgs in compressed form
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<tilpner>
But I'm not entirely sure what you're doing, so...
<Lisanna>
So, I do actually need nixpkgs on the disk image, so I can use buildEnv
<Lisanna>
so, I guess I can just use a raw NIX_PATH
<Lisanna>
and set that manually
<Lisanna>
it's too bad that nix-channel apparently doesn't support using local files though
<nikivi>
I assume it being a sandbox build enviroment is something you want to have on a server rather than a personal OS
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<Lisanna>
tbh I don't use Nix on MacOS for a lot, since I spend most of my time on a linux box, but I do use it for a few things, like when I get frustrated at the way Mac packages software...
<Lisanna>
and I just want a simple program and don't want to spend the time to fix my broken homebrew installation :)
<nikivi>
You ssh to linux from mac you mean?
<gchristensen>
nikivi: I use it mostly because nix-shell is magic
<Lisanna>
nikivi: yeah
<Lisanna>
tilpner: no dice. error: unable to download ‘file:///nixpkgs/MANIFEST’: Couldn't read a file:// file (37)
<nikivi>
gchristensen That's the thing. I wish to see this magic first hand instead of reading about it.
<gchristensen>
try it :) it works great on mac
<nikivi>
But I am worried to mess some things as I am already running a package manager with many packages
<Lisanna>
nikivi: Nix doesn't interfere with your other package managers
<Lisanna>
that's one of its selling points :)
<gchristensen>
nix will not interfere with brew
<Lisanna>
it's fully isolated
<gchristensen>
see: reasons you want sandboxing even on your laptop, and you don't even know it :)
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<nikivi>
Also it seems nix is really tailored to systems that have more than 1 user
<nikivi>
But on mac I just have 1 user and never switch
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<gchristensen>
it isn't, the "multi-user" terminology you see is a bad name
<Lisanna>
nikivi: not really, I have many single user systems I use Nix on
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<gchristensen>
Nix's design philosophy just happens to make many user systems much easier
<srhb>
gchristensen: Hm, thanks.. It's not obvious to me how these integrate into the hydra channels tab, but I'll try to figure it out :)
<gchristensen>
oh the channels tab
<gchristensen>
I have no idea
<gchristensen>
:$
<srhb>
Ah... :-P
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<srhb>
I should have been clearer.
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<infinisil>
Hmm, can somebody merge this maybe? I'm not able to make it user+group configurable and there's little reason for it. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/30518 cc gchristensen Dezgeg peterhoeg
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[nixpkgs] CMCDragonkai opened pull request #32939: nodePackages.dat init at 13.9.2 (master...dat) https://git.io/vby7H
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<infinisil>
Has been left standing for a while now and the service has been really useful for me and has never caused problems
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[nixpkgs] CMCDragonkai opened pull request #32940: nodePackages: Added instructions to README about packages with binary addons (master...nodepackagesreadme) https://git.io/vby5E
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<hyper_ch>
infinisil: is your "s" key broken?
<infinisil>
Heh, because zetup?
<hyper_ch>
yes
<hyper_ch>
and ho do you send it to a remote pool?
<grahamc>
Nothing like a forced reboot by nixops and a fat finger to spoil a morning
<hyper_ch>
how
<infinisil>
Well I thought I'd keep the scheme of znapzend, the setup binary is called znapzendzetup
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<hyper_ch>
ah ok :)
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<infinisil>
and pandoc's markdown is probably the best intergrated in pandoc, so it's gonna be easy to generate correct other formats (pdf/html/man)
<srhb>
gchristensen: Ouch
<roberth>
The primary goal of reStructuredText is to define a markup syntax for use in Python docstrings and other documentation domains
<roberth>
I'm not much of a snake person though
<gchristensen>
roberth: you really stepped in it, asking questions about docs ;)
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<roberth>
haha yeah, I guess I was trying to find the word pythonista but that's a good point ;)
<infinisil>
Well, just having written a big module yesterday and not knowing how to write the options descriptions with proper xml attributes, I'm really for everything except xml (I know this discussion is about Nix comments, not option descriptions but still)
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<gchristensen>
yeah I guess it is unreasonable to learn a few small bits of simple XML
<infinisil>
gchristensen: how do you do a man page entry in docbook xml?
<gchristensen>
jtojnar: or is an operator which works when fetching an attr from an attrset
<gchristensen>
jtojnar: {}.foo or "bar" -> returns bar, {foo = "hi";}.foo or "bar" -> returns "hi"
<jtojnar>
oh
<gchristensen>
I've been punished too many times by the vague parsing of markdown, the differently applied rules between engines, and the lack of decent semantics
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] svanderburg closed pull request #32940: nodePackages: Added instructions to README about packages with binary addons (master...nodepackagesreadme) https://git.io/vby5E
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<joepie91>
Lisanna: probably doesn't help that there's no language spec :P
<gchristensen>
it is very difficult to get right though, because it is all based on regexes
<joepie91>
gchristensen: it's probably theoretically fixable based on my past experiences with textmate bundles
<joepie91>
it'll just be a lot of hacky experimentation
<yegortimoshenko>
gchristensen: i agree, i think markdown is as much of a format as csv. i use org-mode whenever i can, but XML docs are also fine
<joepie91>
because there's basically zero debugging tools for this stuff
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<joepie91>
might look into it when bored
<gchristensen>
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ yegortimoshenko
<gchristensen>
it is unpopular to like docbook-based docs in the nix community :D
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbyAa
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5b5e98b Lorenzo Manacorda: libbitcoin: 2.11.0 -> 3.4.0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 4fea55e Lorenzo Manacorda: libbitcoin-protocol: init at 3.4.0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 86ee454 Lorenzo Manacorda: libbitcoin-client: 2.2.0 -> 3.4.0
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<yegortimoshenko>
gchristensen: i don't see why XML gets so much hate when HTML is relatively tolerated
<roberth>
gchristensen: interesting experiment, but it involves a lot of mechanics that make it hard to use everywhere
<gchristensen>
IMO? fear, and it is a bit tricky to get the editing environment setup, and the error messages can be unparseable
<roberth>
documentation should be easy to create
<gchristensen>
roberth: I agree, I was trying to avoid actually embedding docbook direcly in strings, I wouldn't try that again
<sphalerite>
I can't seem to build Rust stuff using cargo anymore, the cc wrapper (I presume) complains about an impure path being used in the build
<sphalerite>
Is there a way I can disable that check? It used to work
<Lisanna>
yegortimoshenko: yeah, the correct attitude is to hate both ^^
<joepie91>
yegortimoshenko: depends on context. XHTML was poorly received compared to HTML due to strictness and unforgiving failure modes, XML is generally poorly received as a serialization format because it's unnecessarily complex and doesn't directly map to a native data type in all languages (unlike JSON, which does), and many XML-based things are poorly received because they tend to over-specify things and require a lot of work to specify or handle common
<joepie91>
cases even if you never use the corner cases
<yegortimoshenko>
Lisanna: i disagree, i think HTML/XML is a very good idea, i would only be happier if it used s-expressions, but syntax is tolerable
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<joepie91>
yegortimoshenko: most of it, in the end, comes down to people feeling that XML-y things are unnecessarily complex for their usecase
<joepie91>
which, in many cases, is a valid concern
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<yegortimoshenko>
joepie91: XML is good for representing trees, it's just people tried to represent everything in XML
<yegortimoshenko>
sometimes map
<infinisil>
it's just annoying to write in a lot of editors, and I won't switch editors just so i can write docs easier
<yegortimoshenko>
sometimes maps are a better idea
<joepie91>
yegortimoshenko: trees of what, though? you can represent trees using basically anything that can represent objects/maps and lists, including JSON
<Lisanna>
there's at least one other way to express that that I'm forgetting :)
<yegortimoshenko>
joepie91: XML is of course better than JSON for representing trees, it properly supports metadata (attributes) on nodes, and representing trees in JSON is very verbose
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32922: libsoundio: Fix build on darwin (master...feature/libsoundio-darwin) https://git.io/vbyWM
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbyxW
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 644a404 Mario Rodas: libsoundio: Fix build on darwin
<joepie91>
yegortimoshenko: but this assumes that you *need* to specify metadata on nodes, and that it's a usecase where that's easier to deal with than objects that have a `children` attribute with an array of children as its value, which is usually not the case
<joepie91>
so no, XML is not universally 'better than JSON for representing trees'
<joepie91>
it depends entirely on the usecase
<Lisanna>
FRidh: I have no idea what on earth is in that paste, but thanks for the bookmark :)
<dan_b`>
I'm thinking of buying a bike shed, can anyone tell me what the best colour is, please?
<joepie91>
Lisanna: looks like strace output :P
<joepie91>
dan_b`: purple, clearly :)
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<Lisanna>
so I've been thinking of switching to emacs from vim... pros/cons?
<joepie91>
anyway, not really bikeshedding here, just explaining why people dislike XML
<gchristensen>
dan_b`: docbook-flavoured
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<gchristensen>
Lisanna: #emacs has a good sales pitch
<Lisanna>
gchristensen: I was joking :)
<gchristensen>
Lisanna: they are too
<yegortimoshenko>
gchristensen: hehehe
<Lisanna>
:)
<gchristensen>
their sales pitch is "We aren't gonna lie. Emacs sucks. Some of us tolerate it, but we can't tell you if YOU'LL be able to. Try it and make up your own mind."
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<etu>
Lisanna: I ride the emacs boat. But personally I couldn't care less what others use as long it works for them. But feel free to ask me questions if you have any.
<Lisanna>
bad joke... I felt the XML and JSON thing was a vim vs. emacs thing
<joepie91>
yegortimoshenko: anyway, to complete what I was saying above because I got distracted halfway through: the problem with having a 'native' distinction between attributes and children in your serialization format, is that most languages have no way to represent this as data structures; most languages rely entirely on some variant of 'maps and lists' for dealing with serialized data... meaning that even if you *do* have a native distinction like in XML,
<joepie91>
the code that the developer writes is going to have to access a .children property or something like that anyway, because that's the only way most languages can represent that distinction
<joepie91>
so the effective representation that the developer works with is going to be pretty much the same as how you'd represent the tree in JSON anyway
<joepie91>
and that's too costly a translation step for many developers
<joepie91>
(mental translation step, that is)
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<yegortimoshenko>
joepie91: that i agree with, but XML is supposed to be parsed into custom data structures, and not in lists/maps like json.
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<joepie91>
sure, but 1) that's not how people usually handle deserialized data in reality, and 2) in the cases where they do, they often end up having to write some sort of logic of configuration anyway that has to work around this lack of distinction in their language of choice
<joepie91>
specifying mappings from XML to custom data structures suffers from the exact same problem of having no obvious language-native distinction between children and attributes
<joepie91>
(on top of that, a lot of developers work with languages where there's not such a strong focus on 'custom data structures'-)
<gchristensen>
let's take this to #nixos-debates-xml
<yegortimoshenko>
joepie91: i agree, it's problematic.
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has to leave for a bit anyway
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<dan_b`>
dezgeg: "it might be that cross stripping is not being done (or implemented incorrectly)"
<stranger__>
hey, is it possible to print meta information about package?
<dan_b`>
this turns out to have been the case
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<dan_b`>
at least, as of master when I started this branch
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<dan_b`>
it's runningf 'strip' not 'mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu-strip' or whatever
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<dan_b`>
(and then it's suppressing the error messages, but I understand the reasoning there)
<roberth>
stranger__: use nix-repl or nix-instantiate --eval --strict -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).hello.meta'
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<stranger__>
roberth: thank you!
<roberth>
stranger__: you're welcome
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<woffs>
nixos on sparc, anyone? ;)
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<Guest56528>
woffs: not earlier than nixos on russian "elbrus" i suppose :D
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<berce>
ping jtojnar
<PlasmaStar>
gchristensen: You banning on certain words, then immediately regretting it. lol
<gchristensen>
oh, PlasmaStar, it is because someone tested to see if the bot worked :) I wasn't trying to ban people, just spammers.
<PlasmaStar>
Ok :)
<gchristensen>
(and the bot did indeed work, lol)
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<FRidh>
Seems to be something with the systemd unit since starting the daemon manually allows users to build
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbSkE
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 065acc4 Sander van der Burg: jsdoc: init at 3.5.5
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<dan_b`>
given a default.nix file, is there any command that will tell me which of its dependencies (recursively) have already been built and which ones will need to be built?
<dan_b`>
without actually buildng it, I mean
<dan_b`>
oh, cock. my git bisect failed. i forget that gnu hello has a 'make check' target that doesn't work when xbuilding
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<pkill9>
does libreoffice work for anyone else?
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<woffs>
pkill9: I remember having it opened some days ago on 17.09
<pkill9>
nevermind, got it to work
<samueldr>
libreoffice-5.3.6.1 does for me
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<pkill9>
i copy system libs over to a directory and use patchelf to make them look in my system paths, then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory containing those patched libs
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<pkill9>
seems to work so far
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] PierreR opened pull request #32942: HaskellPackages.language-puppet: enable x86_64 build again (master...master) https://git.io/vbSOU
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<chreekat>
The nixpkgs manual has a section on how to build haskell packages with profiling enabled. It creates a duplicate of haskellPackages with an overridden mkDerivation. How would I create a copy of haskellPackages that only overrides mkDerivation for a single package?
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<chreekat>
There's so many 'self's and 'super's and other repeated words in the examples that it's hard to make heads or tails of it
<srhb>
chreekat: The example works by overriding mkDerivation to enable profiling for all its arguments
<srhb>
chreekat: Instead, override just the haskell package you want to enable profiling for
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<chreekat>
I think I need to reread section 7.1...
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<srhb>
chreekat: What do you really want to do? Have a separate set with some libraries profiled or override haskellPackages itself with some libraries being profiled?
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<chreekat>
srhb: great question. I just tried installing brittany from unstable, but one of its deps (multistate) is failing its tests atm. I thought I'd just try setting noCheck on that package and see where I end up
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<srhb>
chreekat: self is the finished packageset (the fixpoint), super is the packageset *before* this overlay, selfHS and superHS likewise but just for haskellPackages, oldAttrs are the attributes of multistate before this overlay
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #32285: Make less known wayland compositors usable (master...wayland-wm) https://git.io/vbOVW
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<srhb>
chreekat: Does that help?
<chreekat>
yes, thanks! "self is the fixpoint" in particular. Let me give it a spin - I need to make sure that multistate is really the problem; there might be two
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<srhb>
You can add another override in the same definition of haskellPackages if you want. :)
* chreekat
nods
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<chreekat>
bummer, looks like the test module is still being built even without doCheck. I can think of various reasons for that. I think I'll just fall back to building brittany locally
<chreekat>
/manually
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<srhb>
Oh, it fails building, not running?
<chreekat>
yeah, which is a point I probably should have mentioned
<chreekat>
heh
<hexagoxel>
chreekat: btw, how does the multistate test fail?
<chreekat>
hexagoxel: i misspoke. I think it's the monad-memo
<chreekat>
package
<hexagoxel>
oh well, i have no control over that :)
<chreekat>
:)
<Fare>
Hi. Given a NixOS partition mounted from Ubuntu, what is the "right" way to chroot into it?
<clever_>
Fare: there ix a nixos-install --chroot, but its only present on another nixos
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<Fare>
clever, yes, and trying to run the nixos-install that is already in the chroot doesn't obviously work; I'm stuck where it tries to call nix-instantiate.
<Fare>
But I'm trying to define PATH, etc.
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<clever>
Fare: you need a tmpfs at /run and a symlink from /run/current-system to the latest build of nixos in the store
<clever>
then /run/current-system/sw/bin/ in $PATH
<Fare>
/run is there already, no tmpfs
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<Fare>
I'm trying to bootstrap NixOS from a machine that cannot boot NixOS, yet, at least not in a fully functional way
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<chreekat>
srhb: cool - i had a followup question, but learning about 'extend' let me answer it on my own. I wanted to try creating a *copy* of haskellPackages rather than overriding it 'in place'. I managed to do that by setting '~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix'.packageOverrides.myHSCopy = self.haskellPackages.extend (...)
<chreekat>
(well, packageOverrides is a function, but hopefully you see what I mean)
<srhb>
chreekat: With the overlay it'd be as simple as renaming the lefthand side
<srhb>
ie myHaskellPackages instead of haskellPackages
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<srhb>
(It's not that different from the packageOverrides version, but overlays seem nicer)
<chreekat>
oh! ok. That's why I described my soln: in case there was a nicer way of doing it
<chreekat>
thanks again
<srhb>
:)
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<pmeunier>
Hi! I get the following error when trying to deploy to GCE with NixOps: ERROR: google_compute_engine.test_compat (unittest.loader.ModuleImportFailure)
<pmeunier>
ImportError: No module named mock
<pmeunier>
Any idea?
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<pmeunier>
(I'm using the Git version of nixpkgs and nixops)
<srhb>
pmeunier: Which git versions?
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<pmeunier>
srhb: from the git repository (not sure I understand the question)
<srhb>
pmeunier: which branch and commit :)
<srhb>
There are multiple branches.
<pmeunier>
master, latest
<pmeunier>
(for both)
<srhb>
Brave!
<pmeunier>
well, I need features that are super recent in nixpkgs (such as buildRustCrate)
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<srhb>
pmeunier: Perhaps it needs to be added to the pythonPath of nixops?
<iqubic>
What is the url for unstable?
<srhb>
(I'm not very good at Python, so take with a grain of salt)
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<iqubic>
And then, how do I tell nix that I want to take stack from unstable?
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<srhb>
iqubic: Try searching for nixos channels, you should find it quite quickly :)
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<srhb>
iqubic: The name you give the channel will be it's namespace in nix-env commands
<srhb>
iqubic: As in, nix-env -iA nixos-unstable.stack
<frontsideair>
Hi everyone, I have a question. I have installed yarn, a node package while node 6.x was installed. Now I want it to use node 9.x but I don't know how to tell nix-env that. I have removed both node 6.x and yarn but since my env depends on them they aren't garbage collected.
<srhb>
frontsideair: How does your env depend on them?
<frontsideair>
My older env, I mean.
<srhb>
frontsideair: If they're not installed in your current env, they will be garbage collceted.
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<iqubic>
So I added the channel nixos-unstable to my system
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<iqubic>
However, trying to add nixos-unstable.stack to my list of packages in configuration.nix fails.
<iqubic>
I get told that nixos-unstable is an invalid variable.
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<chreekat>
I'm trying to use 'nix-shell "<nixpkgs>" -A haskellPackages.brittany.env', and it's telling me it can't find the attribute 'brittany'. It works with lens, however. Any pointers?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vbgl closed pull request #32758: ocsigen-i18n: do not strip (master...ocsigen-i18n) https://git.io/vbKA6
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<lebel>
there's no way right now to have a mdadm daemon running and emailing if there's a raid failure right now on NixOS?
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<srhb>
chreekat: Why are you trying that though?
<hyper_ch>
mdadm should autosend message to a designated account if there's a failure
<srhb>
I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working. Do you have an override on brittany?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbS87
<chreekat>
srhb: I was using the example straight of the manual where it says, "If you need such an environment because you’d like to compile a Hackage package outside of Nix — i.e. because you’re hacking on the latest version from Git..." becasue that's exactly what I'm doing. :)
<iqubic>
no, I'm not using nix-env
<srhb>
iqubic: I linked you a guide to make it available in configuration.nix
<srhb>
chreekat: Aha, OK! You're doing it right!
<chreekat>
I changed a config option from 30 to 0 and it caused a ghc panic - thought I would look at the exact version of things to try to duplicate
<srhb>
chreekat: An "impossible" panic?
<chreekat>
yeah
<srhb>
eek.
<srhb>
But I think you must have a brittany override somewhere that's ruining the env attribute somehow.
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<chreekat>
first of all, what does "<nixpkgs>" mean again? Is that going to be pulling from a certain channel? I have two
<srhb>
It grabs the nixpkgs path from $NIX_PATH
<srhb>
try echo $NIX_PATH
<srhb>
Generally any <foo> grabs the value of foo from $NIX_PATH
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbS4p
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master a04ae2c Orivej Desh: ocamlPackages.curses: no longer broken
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<chreekat>
Ok. in that case it looks like it's using nixos (per-user/root/channels/nixos)
<srhb>
That is indeed the default on nixos.
<chreekat>
I did make that overlay earlier where I changed the configure flags for monad-memo. But I (hoped I) created a copy of haskellPackages where I did that
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<srhb>
Could you disable it and check if you can evaluate brittany.env then?
<chreekat>
oh, brittany may not even BE in nixos stable
<srhb>
Aha!
<chreekat>
So I suppose I need to modify the nix-shell invocation to use my unstable channel
<srhb>
You can just point it at that path instead of <nixpkgs>
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<galbolle>
Hi all, I'm wondering how I can override an emacs package from ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix: I'd like to build my emacs using emacsWithPackages, but have it use an overridden version of tuareg
<cmiles74>
I'm working on a systemd service/module that wants to add symlinks to a directory in /etc when it's running. Is there way to have Nix create a symlink during module deployment to satisfy this requirement?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbSRG
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 276d60e Markus Hauck: odpdown: add `checkInputs`...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b446161 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32931 from markus1189/odpdown-fix...
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<lebel>
srhb: thanks, I'll try that.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbSR8
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master e1dbe8e Markus Hauck: bepasty: Add `checkInput` for tests...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 005628a Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #32932 from markus1189/bepasty-fix...
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<cmiles74>
This is kind of icky, I see what it's doing. When snapd installs a snap, it tries to create a symlink for systemd to mount that snap during boot.
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<yegortimoshenko>
cmiles74: sorry i never got back to you with snapd
<cmiles74>
yegortimoshenko: That is totally okay. I spent more time on it and I've made some decent progress. :-)
<cmiles74>
yegortimoshenko: At this point, I have it building and creating a package; I have a module added to my config that I can invoke. I'm chasing down runtime issues at this point. :-)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] P-E-Meunier opened pull request #32944: Fixing tests for Google Compute Engine (master...fix-gce) https://git.io/vbS0W
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<hexagoxel>
chreekat: if you succeeded, is it worth adding some instructions to the brittany readme?
<srhb>
I believe it builds with the extra argument to memo, so that should just go in the packageset config.
<srhb>
(ie. please PR :-))
<chreekat>
hexagoxel: I don't think it's brittany-specific. The problem is not nix-specific - monad-memo is failing to build in a certain configuration
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<hexagoxel>
ok
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<chreekat>
except hang on. how does nixpkgs choose versions of haskell packages? I was vaguely under the impression that it tracks stackage, but perhaps not, eh? Does it do any work to check if packages work together?
<srhb>
chreekat: I believe hackage-packages.nix is loosely based on some LTS snapshot.
<chreekat>
that file says it's autogenerated, but doesn't provide a clue as to how :)
<srhb>
hackage2nix I think?
<chreekat>
sounds promising
<srhb>
Or maybe stackage2nix
<srhb>
Unsure.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jwiegley pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbSzK
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2134543 John Wiegley: coqPackages.contribs: new set with all packages from coq-contribs
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<srhb>
There-s also a make-package-set.nix
<srhb>
In the same directory
<srhb>
brb
<srhb>
(hopefully...)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] srhb closed pull request #32944: Fixing tests for Google Compute Engine (master...fix-gce) https://git.io/vbS0W
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<srhb>
Success.
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<pkill9>
if anyone is looking to exercise their nix-package-making abilities, then i'd like this to be installed with Nix https://github.com/drawpile/Drawpile
<pkill9>
I would do this myself but I know nothing of building/packaging with Nix ;(
<tnks>
Is the flood of crazy over?
<tnks>
I guess so... sorry for the question, I was still in scrollback.
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[nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #32946: ocaml: adds an argument to enable flambda (master...ocaml-flambda) https://git.io/vbSaL
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[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbSaC
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master cfd4299 Robert Schütz: abcm2ps: 8.13.17 -> 8.13.18
<srhb>
My current workflow consists of xrandr --output X --off --output Y --auto && xrandr --output X --auto --primary
<srhb>
Because... Hmm.
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<clever>
srhb: lol
<clever>
the xfce gui is great
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<srhb>
Yeah, I should probably just give in. :P
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[nixpkgs] jb55 opened pull request #32948: python-bitcoinlib: init at 0.9.0 (master...python-bitcoinlib) https://git.io/vbSKf
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<jb55>
autorandr works great
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<hyper_ch>
kde tames randr
<jb55>
desktop env... never...
<jb55>
just need xmonad and some glue
<samueldr>
gchristensen: if you'd prefer not to learn xrandr, there's arandr that's pretty standalone, and can save xrandr incantations as scripts
<jb55>
one day clicking on stuff will actually open them...
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<jeaye>
xrandr, in my experience is the most no-nonsense way of handling monitors.
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<jeaye>
Something will be wrong on my wife's machine, and the UI doesn't show what or provide much info at all. xrandr doesn't lie and it makes things pretty simple, at least for my uses.
<gchristensen>
samueldr: nice!
<gchristensen>
samueldr: I don't think I have enough room in my brain for xrandr :$
<telent>
Gnu hello installs its binary in $out with perms 0555
<jb55>
shut everything down
<telent>
Which seems to mean that strip wont strip it
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<telent>
Should I fix this by changing the package or would it be better to patch stripDir for all packages?
<telent>
(I don't know if there are other places not being stripped because the stderr of strip is swallowed silently)
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<gchristensen>
telent: all executables are forced to be 0555 with nix
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<acowley>
I'm trying to package a perl utility, but when I run the script it complains it can't find its own library module. I generated the defintion with nix-generate-from-cpan, and put the definition in perlPackageOverrides.
<acowley>
Can anyone nudge me in the right direction?
<acowley>
(The utility is FileRename, btw)
<acowley>
Oh, and I tried to run the program in a nix-shell -p perlPackages.FileRename
<acowley>
The store path does have a lib directory with what I guess is the module, but @INC doesn't include it, I guess
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<cmiles74>
Is it possible to specify a runtime dependency? I have squashfsTools as a propagatedBuildInput, but it's still not available when my app runs (my package is compiling from source).
<acowley>
If I set PERL5LIB I can get the script to work, so perhaps my package could do that with its own out directory. Though just dumping that into shellHook did not work.
<acowley>
cmiles74: I think buildInputs should be available at runtime, too
<cmiles74>
acowley: I wonder if the resulting binary doesn't directly use mksquashfs and that's why it can't find it.
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<d4rk_>
afternoon everyone -- Quick question here : I'm trying to rebuild but keep getting "The option `services.gitlab.secrets.secret' is used but not defined." Fair deal. But how do I define it exactly? (I'm fairly new to NixOS ^^)
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<srhb>
d4rk_: You set it in your configuration.nix
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<srhb>
d4rk_: As in services.gitlab.secrets.secret = "sortasecret";
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<srhb>
d4rk_: The error message may be a bit opaque. What's happening is that you've enabled the module (either directly through enable = true or through some other service) and the module itself utilizes other options that you haven't set yet, so it fails.
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<srhb>
d4rk_: You'll probably bump into that a few times until you have all the required options in place. :)
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<d4rk_>
Mkayyyy. I gotchya. We'll see how it goes :)
<acowley>
meanwhile, I regenerated the 2k files I needed to rename while trying to package the rename utility, so now I don't actually need it.
<acowley>
Solid work there.
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<d4rk_>
@srhb: thanks. Just read the gitlab.nix I wasnt sure where I needed to define it. the configuration.nix makes so much sense. I'll set everything up now :)
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[nixpkgs] Ericson2314 opened pull request #32953: buildPythonPackage: Make setup hook part of nativeBuildInputs (staging...python-dep-fix) https://git.io/vbSDs
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[nixpkgs] vcunat opened pull request #32954: glibc: maintenance update and support RHEL 6 -like kernels (staging...p/rhel6) https://git.io/vbSys
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[nixpkgs] Ericson2314 closed pull request #32953: buildPythonPackage: Make setup hook part of nativeBuildInputs (staging...python-dep-fix) https://git.io/vbSDs
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<ethanwinn>
Is this still the best approach for installing Inkscape plugins: http://git.io/vT9KZ ?
<Ralith>
ethanwinn: if it were me I'd refactor that package to take a list of plugins as an argument
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<ethanwinn>
Ralith: makes sense, similar to weechat.nix
<ethanwinn>
s/weechat.nix/weechat's default.nix/
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<Ralith>
yeah, and many others
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<cmiles74>
acowley: I got it working with makeWrapper and mangling the path that way. :-P
<ethanwinn>
thanks Ralith, I'll take a stab at it.
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[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbSQC
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging a7d4fb8 Vladimír Čunát: Merge branch 'master' into staging...
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[nixpkgs] pbogdan opened pull request #32956: [WIP/RFC] update firefox on 17.09 (release-17.09...update-firefox-17.09) https://git.io/vbSQF
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<cmiles74>
snapd wants to add systemd targets (for snap mounts) everytime a new snap is installed (at runtime). Is there a clever way to make a director in /etc writeable, so snap can do this? In this case it's /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants... The guys in the snappy channel say the path is hard coded into snap, changing it would require patching the source. I can do that, but would rather not.
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<dtzWill>
cmiles74: symlink to a directory snapd controls, maybe?
<dtzWill>
oh but it's not a directory or even a file that really truly belongs to snapd. hmm.
<dtzWill>
snapd should emit nix code and installing snaps will be a new system generation, updating the /etc/ file. :P
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<Sonarpulse>
where do I get dig?
<Sonarpulse>
it says bind
<Sonarpulse>
that's not true
<sphalerite>
Sonarpulse: dnsutils iirc
<Sonarpulse>
thanks sphalerite
<dtzWill>
Sonarpulse: bind.dnsutils ?
<dtzWill>
ah
<dtzWill>
bummer command-not-found reports wrong attribute though
<Sonarpulse>
those are the same hmm
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<cmiles74>
dtzWill: Yeah, it's getting messier and messier. I was hoping for something that maybe would make it easy to bind_mount or something inside a package expression to try and fake it out.
<vcunat>
Sonarpulse: same? I don't get what you mean.
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[nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #32957: gnuplot_full: init with support for lua/tikz/tex (master...feature/gnuplot-extra-terminals) https://git.io/vbSjm
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[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbSjG
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b513fc7 Bas van Dijk: python.pkgs.voluptuous: init at 0.10.5...