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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #32620: Backporting meta fixes and from master (release-17.09...check-meta-17.09) https://git.io/vbgtl
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] antonxy opened pull request #32621: yubico-piv-tool: 1.4.4 -> 1.5.0 (master...yubico-piv-tool) https://git.io/vbgqe
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar opened pull request #32622: telepathy-morse: init at 0.1.0 (master...telepathy-morse) https://git.io/vbgmj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbgYT
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 105d951 Graham Christensen: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into staging
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<iqubic`> So, is it just not possible to use Firefox Quantum on Nixos at this current moment in time?
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<Yaniel> been using it for a few weeks just fine already?
<iqubic> How did you get it installed?
<Yaniel> `nix-env -iA nixos.firefox`
<Yaniel> well, I used config.nix but anyway
<iqubic> And that pulled in firefox quantum for you?
<iqubic> How do you know that it is Firefox Quantum?
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<iqubic> Can I see a screenshot of your current web browser set-up?
<Yaniel> well the about window says "Nightly 57.0.1 (64-bit)"
<Yaniel> but that is firefox quantum
<Yaniel> just without the mozilla branding
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<Yaniel> "Quantum" is just marketing fluff for versions 57 to 60 or so
<joepie91> iqubic: I run Quantum, using firefox-bin - yesterday or so somebody mentioned that unstable has Quantum (57) but stable/release does not
<Yaniel> to highlight the inclusion of the new rust stuff
<joepie91> under 'firefox' I mean
<Yaniel> I thought stable got it even faster than unstable?
<iqubic> Ah, I'm using 56.0.2
<gchristensen> firefox-bin will be FF 57 on 17.09
<gchristensen> making firefox ff57 will be a bit complicated b/c of issue with Rust
<gchristensen> (but we definitely should do that)
<iqubic> I am so very confused.
<makefu> is there a way to fix socket.getprotobyname('tcp') related errors? i tried the libredirect trick but it does not seem to be working for the python unittest
<iqubic> Using "Firefox-bin" gives me Firefox 56.0.2 and using "Firefox" gives me Nightly 56.0.2
<iqubic> What the heck?
<iqubic> Why is that not 57.XX.YY?
<gchristensen> iqubic: sounds like your channel is out of date.
<gchristensen> nixos-17.09 is currently at cb751f9b1c3fe6885f3257e69ce328f77523ad77 and has ff 57
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<iqubic> How do I update my channel?
<gchristensen> nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
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<iqubic> Is it possible to have a script run when I log in?
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<iqubic> Is it possible to have such a script run even if I have automatic log in.
<gchristensen> normal linux techniques here apply
<iqubic> I don't know the normal Linux techniques.
<clever> iqubic: boot, graphic login, any shell opening, any login shell?
<iqubic> I want this script to run when the graphic login occurs.
<iqubic> Even though that's automatic.
<iqubic> I set automatic login to true.
<clever> iqubic: and what will the script do?
<jeaye> Sounds like the job of a systemd service.
<iqubic> It might be.
<iqubic> clever: It's a script to set-up xcape.
<iqubic> Or rather, to call it with the right parametera
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<jeaye> Actually, sounds more like something which should be bound to the X session, a la ~/.xinitrc
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e5629dc51a3 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbglA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9e48634 Franz Thoma: nixos.gnome3.at-spi2-core: Set environment variable `NO_AT_BRIDGE=1` if disabled...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbg80
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 7550fd1 Jan Tojnar: phpPackages.php-cs-fixer: 2.8.3 → 2.9.0
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<dshin> How are ~/.nix-profile/manifest.nix and ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix related?
<clever> dshin: every time you nix-env -i or nix-env -e, it will load the manifest.nix into ram, apply the requested mutations, then generate a profile based on the new manifest.nix
<clever> config.nix on the other hand, is just some overrides that apply to nixpkgs by default, to mutate the packages before nix-env even starts the build
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<dshin> I see. thanks. Is it better to install packages using "nix-env -i" or by editing config.nix?
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<clever> one trick ive been using recently, is to create a custom set within config.nix, and then nix-env -i that whole set
<clever> dshin: with this, i can nix-env -iA nixos.newstuff
<clever> and everything between lines 13 and 38 will be installed/upgraded
<dshin> Thanks. that's helpful
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<mfny> hi all
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<mfny> hi page
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<mfny> hi Mateon1
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<srhb> jeaye: Looks like you can just import it.
<srhb> jeaye: And it provides default settings.
<jeaye> Ah, just mean to be imported. Can I do that with something like <nixpkgs>/nixos/modules/profiles/hardened.nix?
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<srhb> jeaye: <nixpkgs/nixos/modules/profiles/hardened.nix>
<jeaye> srhb: Awesome. Thank you.
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<Wizek> if I do a `nix-channel --update` how could I find out the older nixpkgs version/hash afterwards?
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<Wizek> I can see `/nix/var/nix/profiles/default-64-link -> /nix/store/g3mss9fd0ssrn7xhq2m0smrczb39q7i3-user-environment`
<Wizek> I suspect the version is in here somewhere, right?
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<davidak> cache.nixos.org aka cloudfront seams to be DOWN :O
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<Wizek> ended up doing a nix-channel --rollback + nix-instantiate --eval -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).lib.nixpkgsVersion'
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<srhb> davidak: Can't reproduce. How are you testing this?
<davidak> srhb: open https://cache.nixos.org in browser
<srhb> davidak: Ah, ok, just the front page. Is something usually there? The actual cache works fine.
<davidak> maybe there is nothing and that is normal behaviour
<davidak> download-from-binary-cache.pl: still waiting for ‘https://cache.nixos.org/9vy6lrlxs5cshlz8z4iyy1syyp3gp76m.narinfo’ after 5 seconds...
<davidak> but this is not
<srhb> davidak: 404 not found for me
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<davidak> chromium said ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
<srhb> davidak: Probably a regional outage then. It's fine here.
<davidak> ok, that could be possible. where are you?
<srhb> davidak: Denmark.
<davidak> i'm in germany
<srhb> davidak: Funky.
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<davidak> my nixos-rebuild worked now, so might be not so dramatic
<srhb> davidak: I've seen all sorts of weird, intermittent failures with cloudfront on occasion. It's hard to debug and often looks like network errors. :/
<srhb> And according to Amazon, everything is fine.
<davidak> but a good reminder to investigate more decentralised infrastructure like IPFS :)
<jeaye> Nix builds on IPFS would be sweet.
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<davidak> I'm currently setting up my own S3 with minio for backups :)
<davidak> very easy with NixOS
<jeaye> The whole Nix community could would together to handle the exploding builds much better than Hydra.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar opened pull request #32624: gtksourceview: 3.24.5 → 3.24.6 (master...gtksourceview-3.24.6) https://git.io/vbguS
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<srhb> jeaye: It always comes back to the problem of trust though
<jeaye> Given reproducible builds, trust isn't an issue there.
<davidak> jeaye: do you know this issue? https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/859
<srhb> If you still need a central (hydra.nixos.org) cluster to do the building in order to trust the artifacts, you've not gained that much.
<jeaye> User: "I want the build with this hash." IPFS: "Here it is."
<jeaye> davidak: I do now.
<srhb> Yeah, but how does the user know which hash they want?
<srhb> By comparing the inputs. And how do they trust those? etc...
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<jeaye> srhb: The hash is calculated by Nix, which the user trusts.
<davidak> srhb: yes, that is a hard issue that needs to be solved
<srhb> I think it's fundamentally unsolvable. You need to trust _someone_ that produces the inputs, and then you need to trust the producer of those inputs, and then the producer of those inputs.
<davidak> but we could build it centrally with hydra and put into IPFS now
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<davidak> that would be a first step
<srhb> And ultimately, you need to trust hydra.
<davidak> also already implemented :)
<srhb> I mean it solves distribution, but not builds.
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<srhb> Yes, I know. :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbgzt
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3ec3de2 Anton Schirg: yubico-piv-tool: 1.4.4 -> 1.5.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor closed pull request #32621: yubico-piv-tool: 1.4.4 -> 1.5.0 (master...yubico-piv-tool) https://git.io/vbgqe
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<srhb> Is there a default systemd target that shuts down most daemons but ensures sshd and network is still there?
<srhb> Kind of a networked single user mode
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] markus1189 opened pull request #32625: minikube: fix wrong path for localkube (master...minikube) https://git.io/vbggY
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar opened pull request #32626: atk: clean up (master...atk-cleanup) https://git.io/vbgg3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor closed pull request #32575: projectlibre: init at 1.7.0 (master...projectlibre) https://git.io/vbEWz
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<fearlessKim[m]> there doesn't seem to be a sbsitute for llvmPackages.clang-unwrapped, which clang package can I use instead to have a substitute (if any) ?
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<sphalerite> srhb: I think you want systemctl isolate multi-user.target
<sphalerite> (Be warned that it will probably kill the shell you run it from as well)
<sphalerite> Oh wait no to disable other stuff as well
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<sphalerite> Hmm maybe systemctl isolate network.target sshd.service would do it. Not sure though, I don't know if it supports multiple arguments nor if those would be enough
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<sphalerite> oh, "Note that this is allowed only on units where AllowIsolate= is enabled. See systemd.unit(5) for details."
<sphalerite> So yeah probably wouldn't work.
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<srhb> sphalerite: Ah, interesting none the less :)
<srhb> sphalerite: Thanks.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] knupfer opened pull request #32627: type-of-html should build now (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbgVy
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<hyper_ch> so, flashplayer got version dump
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<hyper_ch> how do use again a local clone of nixpkgs for building?
<srhb> hyper_ch: -I nixpkgs=path
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<hyper_ch> hmmm.... well, I need to rebuild chromium so that I get the sha sum of the new flash plugin since it changed before I can do a pr... but don't really know how to get that installed
<srhb> Get what installed?
<srhb> You can also use nix-prefetch-* to get the hashes, but you should still test that it works of course.
<hyper_ch> if I download the tgz and just do sha256sum file it gives me a hash that is much longer than the ones in the .nix files
<hyper_ch> chromium
<srhb> nix-prefetch-url
<hyper_ch> ah
<srhb> But yeah, just install chromium with flash how you normally do it, but pointing at your patched nixpkgs.
<hyper_ch> srhb: it's in my configuration.nix
<hyper_ch> so how to test it with a local nixpkgs clone
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<sphalerite> hyper_ch making a PR?? :o
<srhb> hyper_ch: -I nixpkgs=path-to-your-patched-nixpkgs
<srhb> hyper_ch: To nixos-rebuild switch.
<hyper_ch> sphalerite: you're right... I should just give up
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<hyper_ch> would I need to use path/to/nixpkgs or path/to/nixpkgs/pkgs ?
<srhb> hyper_ch: /path/to/nixpkgs
<hyper_ch> no, not using it
<srhb> hyper_ch: Huh?
<srhb> hyper_ch: What does your patch do?
<srhb> And what's the exact command you issued?
<hyper_ch> nixos-rebuild -I nixpkgs=/tmp/nixpkgs/pkgs boot --upgrade
<hyper_ch> ah
<hyper_ch> my mistake... ok, seems to pull right thing
<srhb> :)
<hyper_ch> but pdftk still fails
<hyper_ch> but sha is correct
<srhb> Can you provide some useful debugging information?
<hyper_ch> for pdftk?
<srhb> For whatever problem you're experiencing and want help with. Anything is better than "sill fails" :)
<hyper_ch> gcj / pdftk often fail :)
<srhb> /nix/store/1xdd6iwiwyvf8qnbq6x5gvyw72vqnzy6-builder.sh: line 15: lib: unbound variable
<hyper_ch> but at least flash is now up to day
<hyper_ch> date
<hyper_ch> no idea what that builder.sh is
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sjau opened pull request #32628: flashplayer: 27.0.0.187 -> 28.0.0.126 (master...master) https://git.io/vbgoc
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<hyper_ch> sphalerite: seen that?
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<hyper_ch> but still, when I do sha256sum on a file, I do get a longer hash sum then what nix uses or nix-prefetch shows - why?
<kini> I want to add a program to nixpkgs, but the program doesn't have version numbers, just a github repo which gets committed to from time to time with updates
<kini> how should I handle this in terms of the version number of the nix derivation?
<hyper_ch> just use the commit
<kini> but since commit hashes (in git) aren't monotonically increasing, `nix-env -u` won't properly upgrade, right?
<hyper_ch> kini: https://github.com/sjau/pdfForts/blob/master/pdfForts.nix that's how I do it for my pdf tools
<kini> oh, you call it -git
<kini> so you actually don't have a version number in the name field
<hyper_ch> well, fetchfromgithub would be better I guess... I create that a long time ago
<kini> from what I understand, `nix-env -u` looks for "new versions" of packages in the environment by just parsing the text of the name fields of stuff in nixpkgs, right?
<hyper_ch> no ide
<kini> i.e. if "foo-1.0" is in the environment, and nixpkgs now contains "foo-2.0", then foo-2.0 replaces foo-1.0 in the environment when you do `nix-env -u`
<kini> there's a function in the nix source code which parses out the version number from the name string and compares it by some algorithm
<hyper_ch> never used nix-env -u
<hyper_ch> but if something has no version numbers, it has none :)
<kini> I was thinking I could put the date of the commit, as an 8 digit number, as the version, but then the problem is that if the maintainer decides to start releasing versions, all the old 8 digit date-numbers will be considered "larger" than the actual new version numbers
<kini> how do you upgrade your packages if you never use nix-env -u?
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<evangeline> clever: I have my own nix channel "evangeline file:///home/evangeline/nixpkgs", which is basically a clone of nixpkgs plus some additional things. I can install packages from it with "export NIXPKGS=/home/evangeline/nixpkgs; nix-env -f $NIXPKGS -i firefox", but why can't I install as follows: "nix-env -iA evangeline.firefox". Yesterday you mentioned that installing like this from a channel is possible and
<evangeline> works for all channels, but the local one ... ?
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<spacefrogg> evangeline: The channel would have to be accessible from /home/evangeline/.nix-defexpr
<spacefrogg> I guess 'nix-channel --add file:///... evangeline' would add it properly.
<hyper_ch> kini: nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
<hyper_ch> kini: I use nixos as distro and I install everything throught the system config
<hyper_ch> I don't install stuff as user
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<kini> ahh I see
<kini> I use nix at work where I'm not allowed to run nixos unfortunately :)
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<goibhniu> evangeline: one option is to symlink your local repo to ~/.nix-defexpr/evangeline
<kini> odd that nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade doesn't use the same textual extraction of version numbers setup though... is it because you specify the packages in your system config as attributes of the nixpkgs object?
<kini> so then when nixpkgs gets updated the packages just automatically come along with it
<goibhniu> sorry, didn't see spacefrogg already answered
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<sphalerite> hyper_ch: 👍
<sphalerite> As for your sha256sum question: sha256sum encodes it in base-16 while nix uses base-32
<sphalerite> I think it also hashes more than just the file contents, so even if you converted sha256sum's output to base-32 it wouldn't be the same
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<andi-> Is there some way to construct a lambda which takes the exact (formal) arguments (or more) of a given lambda? I want to write a wrapper around a module so I can prefix/wrap the return attribute set without looking at it's "signature".
<srhb> Has the encryptString primop been removed entirely?
<hyper_ch> sphalerite: borg likes my PR
<hyper_ch> kini: with nixos it just uses the supplied channel and with --upgrade it fetches the newest version of it...
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<18WAAAL9O> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbgXt
<18WAAAL9O> nixpkgs/master b0340b6 quxbar: type-of-html should build now
<18WAAAL9O> nixpkgs/master 90c289b Peter Simons: Merge pull request #32627 from knupfer/patch-1...
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<17SAAALR1> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32627: type-of-html should build now (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbgVy
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<tomster> manveru: just FYI i have decided to uninstall nixos on my work machine and run ubuntu because the nixos/chefdk related issues were just piling up and distracting from my actual work - so don't feel you need to look at the chefdk pkg for my sake
<tomster> i have tested the patience of my team lead and coworkers for long enough...
<tomster> thanks for your help again
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<nixer_01> Hello! Whats the difference between "nix-store --verify" and "nix-store --verify --repair". The man does not state clearly if "--verify" only checks, or checks and repairs. Thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 01ef759 Pascal Wittmann: axel: 2.15 -> 2.16.1
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<nixer_01> Also, is there a method to accelerate "nix-env -qaP --description"? First query usually takes ~2 minutes, the next are only 5 seconds. I suspect its about iocache and random read. Is there a hands-on guide how to shorten this time? Thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar created haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib (+9 new commits): https://git.io/vbg17
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f8ab880 Domen Kožar: hevm: disable bin output to prevent a cycle
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f87bfb1 Domen Kožar: symlinkJoin: support multiple outputs...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib dc899c0 Domen Kožar: elm: fix with separate bin output
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<hedning[m]> nixer_01: You can use `-A attributepath` instead of specifying a name, bash and zsh can also complete attribute paths, so it's a much nicer experience over all.
<sphalerite> nixer_01: --verify without --repair only checks and reports on integrity, no changes I beliebe
<sphalerite> Believe*
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<sphalerite> nixer_01: for nix-env -qa, there isn't really a way to make it faster. It evaluates all of nixpkgs. You may want to cache its results instead. nox is nice for that
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<sphalerite> Or you can use nixUnstable's nix search command, which also caches the results
<nixer_001> hedning[m]: thanks! time measurements, showed that there is no speed difference between '.*name.*' , piping to grep or accessing by attrPath ("-A"). In all three cases the first search takes usually 2 minutes. I suspect this is because of unfilled IO cache of disk drive, random reads of which are slow.
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<kuznero> Hi All!
<nixer_001> hedning[m]: after first run, the delay reduces to 5 seconds. My question is its possible to cache that query, so that this delay goes away. :) Thanks!
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<kuznero> Where can I find information about working on golang projects in nixos?
<sphalerite> nixer_001: did you see my answer?
<nixer_01> sphalerite: I see it just now.
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar force-pushed haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib from 49dedaf to 7378681: https://git.io/vbgMM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 280267c Domen Kožar: Revert "Merge pull request #32333 from NixOS/revert-32112-hask-split-out"...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f09da87 Domen Kožar: hevm: disable bin output to prevent a cycle
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 482fd07 Domen Kožar: symlinkJoin: support multiple outputs...
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<sphalerite> Nice connection you have there xD
<nixer_01> sphalerite: Thanks! Well, I know nox, but its quite a pile of complexity just for the job. I am figuring out my own CLI tool, mostly shortcuts. Hence I am asking.
<nixer_01> sphalerite: well, it doesnt happen that often. :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar opened pull request #32629: Haskell multiple outputs: bin etc lib (take three) (master...haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib) https://git.io/vbgMx
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbgDI
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 941e0e4 Pascal Wittmann: epm: 4.2 -> 4.4
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<hedning[m]> nixer_01: huh, didn't know that `-qa` behaved that way. You could use `nixUnstable` as Linus said. I have symlinked just the `nix` command for when I want to use it, while leaving the other nix-tools on stable.
<sphalerite> nixer_01: if you're writing a tool around it you may want to use --json as well
<nixer_01> hedning[m]: Thats the issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/556
<nixer_01> sphalerite: json outputs to XML correct? I am currently using: nix-env -qaP --description | grep -ie "$*" | sed 's/ */ /g' | less -X
<nixer_01> where $* is "shift"ed so it contains only search expression.
<sphalerite> nixer_01: no... It writes out json
<sphalerite> Which can then be handled nicely using jq
<hedning[m]> nixer_01: ah, misunderstood your isse, I'm guessing you're doing something like `nix-env -qaP -A nixos`, which of course takes a while.
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<vincent_vdk> hi, is there a way to use the latest (or more recent) aws-cli in nixos
<vincent_vdk> the one in 17.09 is a bit outdated
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar force-pushed haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib from 7378681 to 8751bdc: https://git.io/vbgMM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 8751bdc Domen Kožar: haskell: add tests covering ghcWith{Packages,Hoogle}
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master afe9649 Peter Simons: python-suseapi: update to latest version...
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<nixer_01> hedning[m]: the time to deliver searches is same. First query always takes 2 minutes on my system regardless if its direct query, piped to grep query or attribute path query. I think this has something to do with how nix stores database, the read operation is not sequental but spread over multiple files - I think disk iocache fills after first run, so for consequent queries the speed is reduced.
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<fuzzy_id> can i do `mkIf stringVariable someAction` to test if `stringVariable` is set or null/empty?
<fuzzy_id> i.e. someAction is only executed if stringVariable is not null or ""
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] taku0 opened pull request #32630: flashplayer: 27.0.0.187 -> 28.0.0.126 [Moderate security fix] (master...flashplayer-28.0.0.126) https://git.io/vbgHX
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<sphalerite> nixer_01: any reason not to cache it?
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<sphalerite> fuzzy_id: no, if only accepts booleans
<sphalerite> fuzzy_id: I'd recommend using == ""
<nixer_01> sphalerite: thats what I am trying to achieve :)
<nixer_01> sphalerite: I want to reduce the query delay. I understand that most people are probably on SSD now and dont care.
<sphalerite> And not using null, or at least not synonymously with the empty string
<sphalerite> nixer_01: nix-store -qa --json | gzip > ${XDG_CACHE_DIR}/.cache/nix-query.json.gz
<sphalerite> nixer_01: of course people care. That's why nox and nix search exist.
<sphalerite> I regularly use nix on non-SSD systems
<hedning[m]> it's also far from instant when using a ssd
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<nixer_01> sphalerite: you probably mean nix-env, not nix-store?
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<nixer_01> sphalerite: this is a very interesting approach, thank you! I will experiment on it :)
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<sphalerite> nixer_01: err yes I do!
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<gchristensen> our stage 1 is really coool
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<LnL> heh
<LnL> we should probably use allowedReferences in more places
* mbrock tries to configure an EC2 server to use /nix from a fancy NVMe SSD instead of the regular root device, unsuccessfully
<mbrock> this scrambled boot log seems to suggest that the mountings are happening in the wrong order, maybe... https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ee4bc2270b7c051e90c48d6f72b45db9
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<sphalerite> mbrock: surely it should be trying to mount /dev/nvmen1p0 or similar, not /mnt-root/nvme/nix?
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<mbrock> sphalerite: I've set fileSystems."/nix" to be a bind mount of "/nvme/nix"
<mbrock> this old message suggested it should be possible https://nixos.org/nix-dev/2014-July/013744.html
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<gchristensen> I thought remote builds left the result on the remote builder?
<gchristensen> am I taking crazy pills?
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<sphalerite> mbrock: ooooh right
<LnL> what do you mean exactly?
<gchristensen> so I just ...oh nevermind. I'm taking silly-pills. I was looking for the result of a build on the wrong remote builder :)
<sphalerite> mbrock: it does mention that you need to set neededForBoot on it so that it gets mounted first
<LnL> ah that wouldn't work :)
<sphalerite> In your case they're both needed for boot so that solution doesn't apply
<LnL> I've also been very confused about not finding stuff after a --keep-failed because I wasn't building locally
<gchristensen> oh hehe
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<gchristensen> ohhh other things that were confusing me :) I was doing all the building with aarch64 and the last bit with x8664 (where I symlink together some files) and so the actual file I wanted wasn't built on the aarch64 system, and was absent
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<evangeline> spacefrogg: sorry for the late response, using "nix-channel --add file:///home/evangeline/nixpkgs/ evangeline" adds the channel as it was before, since I've used the same command previously. Therefore, it doesn't properly add a channel. I cannot install with "nix-env -iA evangeline.firefox", which gives me the following error: "error: attribute ‘evangeline’ in selection path ‘evangeline.firefox’ not
<evangeline> found"
<spacefrogg> evangeline: Did you do 'nix-channel --update' afterwards?
<evangeline> spacefrogg: sorry no I didn't, it gives me the following error: "/run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-channel: you do not have write permission to ‘/nix/var/nix/manifests’!"
<avn> evangeline: you should use -I nixpkgs=/home/evangeline/nixpkgs/, not channels, if you want use master
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<spacefrogg> evangeline: Try to link you nixpkgs directory to ~/.nix-defexpr directly.
<spacefrogg> your*
<evangeline> avn: yeah that works, nix-env also works with -f $NIXPKGS, however I'm trying to understand why the nix-channels doesn't work ..
<avn> evangeline: because channels do some specific magic ;) (I never use channels, only checkotus, so idk what they need)
<evangeline> ln -sf /home/evangeline/nixpkgs /home/evangeline/.nix-defexpr/evangeline ?
<spacefrogg> yup
<evangeline> avn: that works :) ; wouldn't it be better if nix-channels --add did this automatically ?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #32632: pqiv: 2.10.1 -> 2.10.2 (master...pqiv) https://git.io/vbgpz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #32633: rkrlv2: b1.0 -> b2.0 (master...rkrlv2) https://git.io/vbgpV
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<spacefrogg> evangeline: It should... testing myself.
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<evangeline> spacefrogg: which version of nix-env do you have. Mine is: "nix-env (Nix) 1.11.15"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] clefru opened pull request #32634: Zfs bump (master...zfs-bump) https://git.io/vbgpP
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<spacefrogg> evangeline: me too. You're right. Direct linking is the way to go for local repositories. Adding a channel to a file:/// url does not work for me either.
<evangeline> spacefrogg: should we file a bug, so this is taken into consideration by the community or is there any reason why is it like it is?
<SmallGnoll> how do I setup a non-nixos kvm vm properly in nixos? To be clear, host is nixos, guest is debian.
<SmallGnoll> all the docs I've found talk about virtual box or about nixos guest. even the nixops stuff...
<roberth> hi, can someone have a look at this PR for evaluating NixOS using NixPkgs? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32422
<mbrock> sphalerite: I think stage-1-init.sh just tries to bind mount before it mounts the real disk
<gchristensen> roberth: well that looks super
<sphalerite> mbrock: yeah exactly
<mbrock> sphalerite: and since fileSystems isn't ordered, there seems to be nothing I can do without patching the stage-1
<sphalerite> Yep
<sphalerite> Besides avoiding bind-mount shenanigans completely
<sphalerite> Is that an option?
<mbrock> I guess I could try to install NixOS on the SSD and not use the regular root at all
<mbrock> it just seemed convenient to use the NixOS AMI and just move the /nix/store
<hyper_ch> sphalerite: someone else made also a PR... a better one than mine :(
<mbrock> don't know if EC2 can even boot from another disk than the EBS instance store
<hyper_ch> sphalerite: since that pr https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32630/files fixes flash players in more than just chromium, should I withdraw mine?
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<mbrock> sphalerite: wow, the fileSystems list is actually topologically sorted using some funky ordering defined in nixos/lib/utils.nix
<sphalerite> mbrock: yeah, that's to ensure that all the mount points exist
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<mbrock> sphalerite: this is the dumbest thing ever but my current idea is to try mounting the nvme drive at "/ni" in order to prank the topological sort into believing that "/nix" depends on it
<mbrock> (# FIXME: it's incorrect to simply use hasPrefix here: "/dev/a" is not a parent of "/dev/ab")
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<spacefrogg> evangeline: I don't know if that is intended behaviour. You could, sure, file a bug on github.
<sphalerite> mbrock: haha yes that does sound like it could work
<spacefrogg> evangeline: No, I just told you nonsense. It was user error all along. You cannot just add a local repository with nix-channel because it expects a "channel" which is something different from a nixpkgs repository (e.g. contains a manifest).
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<evangeline> spacefrogg: okay, so by adding the link manually you can use it nevertheless, but is otherwise not supported ?
<spacefrogg> evangeline: Yes, basically. There are two things, that come together, here. nix-env uses directories in ~/.nix-defexpr to build a tree of installable packages. nix-channel makes nixpkgs channels known to nix-env and manages channel updates/rollbacks. Both tools just meet in the middle at ~/.nix-defexpr but for different purposes.
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<evangeline> spacefrogg: great, thanks
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<clever> evangeline: i have a much simpler way to make a fake local channel
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~]$ cat ~/.nix-defexpr/test/foo/default.nix
<clever> import /home/clever/apps/nixpkgs
<clever> evangeline: any time nix-env tries to load the foo channel, it will import that nixpkgs
<evangeline> clever: aren't channels stored directly in the ~/.nix-defexpr/, why not use "~/.nix-defexpr/foo/default.nix" then (without another test directory)?
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<clever> evangeline: the first level 'test' is like a namespace, and different users have different permissions to it
<clever> channels_root is a profile managed by root, so you cant just write to it
<clever> channels is owned by your user, but via nix-env, so you cant just edit it however you want
<clever> but test was made by you and nix doesnt manage it
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<evangeline> clever: I'm not saying to write into channels_root/channels, but in the ~/.nix-defexpr directory. I'm pretty sure this would work without the test subdirectory also ... ~/.nix-defexpr/foo/default.nix
<clever> it probably will
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<evangeline> clever: thanks for the info though
<spacefrogg> evangeline: The exact algorithm is to look into ~/.nix-defexpr/* and see if it contains a default.nix, if so, the directory name is taken as the root of a package tree, if not, the algorithm iterates to the next level and discards the name of the directory. Thus, ~/.nix-defexpr/test/foo/default.nix ignores test and just takes foo
<evangeline> spacefrogg: gotcha, thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 04fcbef Orivej Desh: taglib: update cmake flags...
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<kuznero> I am trying to figure out how to properly develop in nix-shell for a go project... Can somebody please help?
<kuznero> I can nix-build with default.nix I have. But I don't know how to work with the project when I am inside nix-shell... `go install` does not seem to work in the current project's folder...
<joko> kuznero: are you using go2nix?
<kuznero> joko: I have tried to start that way, but it didn't work. So, I simply created a "hello world" main.go file in the repo and a simple default.nix with goPackagesPath = "github.com/something/something"; and src = ./.;
<kuznero> I have learned that I need to construct a workspace, but was hoping that nix-shell can do it for me somehow...
<gchristensen> what will finish faster: building a netboot image with Nix, or a noop puppet run? let's find out ...
<joko> kuznero: If you want just to develop, a simple nix-shell -p go should be enough
<gchristensen> by far, nix was faster.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0be3f2c Tim Steinbach: atom: 1.22.0 -> 1.23.0
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<kuznero> joko: `nix-shell -p go` will give me go without setting up GOPATH, etc. Should I construct a workspace myself?
<andi-> kuznero: yes, that just gives you the go binary in your PATH
<kuznero> andi-: ok, thanks. Sounds a little inconvenient, but that might be go way for working with projects. Then what is the best practice in arranging new development environment for a go-based github repository with default.nix in it?
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<andi-> kuznero: only did the standard GOPATH workflow so far.. `go` is usually in my standard package set since I often need it
<kuznero> andi-: so, the flow then is that I simply construct a new workspace potentially by settings GOPATH and clone my github repo into $GOPATH/src/github.com/something/somthing?
<andi-> yes
<kuznero> ok, thanks!
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<mbrock> uh oh, nixos-install doesn't seem to work on the 17.09 EC2 AMI... after a while I get an error about "changing mode of /nix/store/... to 100444: Read-only file system"
<gchristensen> I don't think you need to call nixos-install with the AMI?
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<mbrock> yeah, I'm trying to actually reinstall NixOS on another drive and switch over to that one
<mbrock> all I really want is to use that drive to store /nix but I couldn't get a bind mount to work
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<fendor> good morning, just trzing to install nixos for the first time, i created an efi partition, a lvm partition and a swap partition, i mounted the lvm partition and created configurations, but the installations fails because he cant find any boot partition
<Yaniel> did you mount the efi partition to /mnt/boot ?
<fendor> no, thanks!
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<cmiles74> Has anyone done any work on getting Snap/snapd working on NixOS? I'm thinking about taking a stab at it.
<sphalerite> SmallGnoll: for KVM, just use qemu
<sphalerite> You can also use a wrapper around it like libvirt, basically same applies as on any other distro
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<samueldr> mbrock: which AMI is it? It might be one of the AMI that was the cause of that bug: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/32242
<mbrock> hmm, yeah, it's called nixos-17.09.1483.d0f0657ca0-x86_64-hvm-ebs (ami-7548fa1a)
<samueldr> the date is from a month before the commit referenced in the issue, sorry I don't know how it can be fixed
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2s9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cac2cdd zimbatm: direnv: 2.13.3 -> 2.14.0
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<fendor> heyho, i now managed to install nixos and added a user guest, but when logging in, i have no wifi, what setting did i miss?
<goibhniu> hi fendor, you probably want to enable network manager (or similar)
<sphalerite> fendor: which desktop environment?
<fendor> currently i am on the usb drive, but using kde for now
<sphalerite> You'll probably want to set either wireless.networks https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#wireless.network or enable networkmanager as goibhniu said
<fendor> network manager is enabled in configuration.nix
<goibhniu> does your wifi interface appear in `ip addr`?
<fendor> goibhniu, live distro or normal one_
<fendor> ?
<sphalerite> fendor: in the live system?
<fendor> yes, to have internet i need to be on the live system
<fendor> laptop has no ethernet adapter
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<goibhniu> if you have an android device, you can use usb-tethering
<sphalerite> fendor: so have you actually installed nixos yet?
<fendor> sphalerite, yes i have, but since i have no wifi on it currently i am on the live system
<fendor> i set networking.wireless.enable = true; is that not enough?
<sphalerite> right ok. If you have networkmanager enabled it should work really. Which desktop environment are you using on the installed system?
<fendor> kde
<goibhniu> you can't have both wireless and network manager enabled though
<sphalerite> networking.wireless is very badly named, it's actually only for when you want to use wpa_supplicant directly
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<sphalerite> If you want to configure networking through the gui, enable networkmanager instead
<fendor> ok, so it should be installed by default?
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<fendor> the network manager?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix closed pull request #32610: Backport #32593 (release-17.09...backport-32593) https://git.io/vbzur
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<sphalerite> fendor: I don't think so, you'll need to enable it in configuration.nix
<fendor> sphalerite, how?
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<sphalerite> networking.networkmanager.enable = true;
<sphalerite> and rerun nixos-install
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<fendor> ok, thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2nH
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c55a6ee Bjørn Forsman: gerrit: 2.14.3 -> 2.14.6
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 d7f2f37 jammerful: gerrit: init at 2.14.3...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 81b76e3 Jörg Thalheim: gerrit: fixed-output derivation to avoid rebuilds...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 73b28c9 Jörg Thalheim: gerrit: avoid copy of war file in build...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32634: zfs/spl bump to 0.7.4 to fix incompatibility with 4.14 (master...zfs-bump) https://git.io/vbgpP
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<fresheyeball> hey out there
<cransom> packet.net... oops. i was just looking around at you and i was confronted with a connection refused.
<fresheyeball> is there a way to put a warning on the physical power button with nixos?
<fresheyeball> I am currently on a macbook pro running nixos
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<fresheyeball> and if the power button gets pressed accidently (normal press), the machine turns of instantly
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<cransom> how instantly? before systemd acts on it even?
<fresheyeball> cransom: not that instantly
<fresheyeball> it just goes for shutdown like "sudo poweroff"
<fresheyeball> When I had osx, accidently taping power didn't have this effect
<gchristensen> cransom: they're lookin' at it
<cransom> been a while since i site went down while i was actively using it... and i didn't deploy it
<gchristensen> haha
<cransom> fresheyeball: you can have it ignore the power button. i think i have code around somewhere that did that and it was just a systemd thing.
<cransom> fresheyeball: https://github.com/cransom/surface-pro-3-nixos/blob/master/surface.nix#L29 . you can change that to ignore
<cransom> or at least you could around a year ago. i dont' think there have bveen any internals that changed that
<goibhniu> fresheyeball: if you use a desktop manager you should also be able to configure it to show a prompt/suspend/hibernate etc.
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<fresheyeball> goibhniu: I am on "xmonad + none"
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<goibhniu> ah, ok
<samueldr> logind is probably handling this, then
<gchristensen> cransom: back up
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<sphalerite> aww fresheyeball left
<sphalerite> was going to suggest wrapping their x session with systemd-inhibit --what=handle-power-key
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<fresheyeball> cransom: thanks for that! Worked perfectly!
<fresheyeball> now my kid can't sneak up on me and shut down my laptop
<Guest67032> 16:33:40 sphalerite | was going to suggest wrapping their x session with systemd-inhibit --what=handle-power-key │ AndersonTorres[m
<Guest67032> Might be a better option
<Guest67032> Oh, pardon me, AndersonTorres[m, wonky IRC client here at work
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<sphalerite> it does depend on whether you want it to be handled at all really
<sphalerite> I've been meaning to set it up on my chromebook so that when I press it it displays a timeout on the screen before shutting down
<sphalerite> i.e. I have to hold it
<sphalerite> SmallGnoll: did you see my answer to your question earlier?
<SmallGnoll> sphalerite: k I'll try qemu. anything special I should look out for? maybe a declarative nix way of doing things?
<SmallGnoll> sphalerite: yeah came in to say thanks :)
<sphalerite> not particularly, qemu is very imperative and won't store machine settings, it depends largely on what you want to use the VMs for
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<samueldr> I've had success in creating the rootfs of debian guests with virt-builder
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<sphalerite> if it's for running services libvirtd is quite likely to be your best bet, and then you can use virt-manager if you like your GUIs to manage them
<samueldr> though, virt-builder has issues with nixos: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Libvirt
<samueldr> and yes, I too would recommend virt-manager to handle the VMs
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<SmallGnoll> sphalerite: well I have a few different things in mind but for now I just want to setup a debian vm to compile openwrt on. later I might want to run a service or two so I figured virtualbox will hold me back...
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<SmallGnoll> samueldr: looks informative. thx
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<makefu> SmallGnoll: i think i have a shell.nix which provides an environment where you can build openwrt
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<SmallGnoll> makefu: image builder too? cause I need code -> image builder -> image rather than image builder -> image
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<makefu> ah you want to build the imagebuilder via openwrt sources?
<SmallGnoll> kinda have to if I'm going to patch the kernel :/
<SmallGnoll> but if you can point me to how to just use the imagebuilder it would save me some time too :)
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<makefu> SmallGnoll: imagebuilder will unfortunately not be enough if you want to patch the kernel, it is only for essentially sticking all the packages you want into an image
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<SmallGnoll> makefu: yeah I know :/ still, I have a few different boxes and some actully use upstream lede kernels so it will simplify things if I use the vm just the ones I really have to...
<SmallGnoll> besides, I'm planning to upstream my patches (should I actually succeed porting) so hopefully I'll use the official builder for everything eventually :3
<makefu> good luck :D with lede the contribution should be easier (supposently)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] makefu closed pull request #32602: [WIP] oslo-config: 4.13.2 -> 5.1.0 (master...pkgs/oslo-config/update) https://git.io/vbujq
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<makefu> ^ this is how giving up looks like
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<gchristensen> <3 makefu
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<SmallGnoll> makefu: hopefully :) you're referring to this one: https://github.com/krebscode/minikrebs right?
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<makefu> SmallGnoll: yes, but unfortunately this is only for the imagebuilder ...
<makefu> lassulus tv: didn't one of you two have a working fhsUserEnv shell.nix for openwrt?
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<SmallGnoll> makefu: got it. still, a step in the right direction. I'll patch and build the image builder in the vm and use this for the builder -> image part. thanks :)
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<makefu> yes, this should work. there are also people who are running ubuntu/arch in a systemd container
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<sphalerite> Yeah I'm running Ubuntu in a systemd-nspawn container, used it to build lineageOS
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<SmallGnoll> container... hmm... well, first I'll get the image building going and then we'll see :)
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/d3bead5e9d0 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel closed pull request #27466: networkmanager_l2tp: fix build without Gnome (master...bugfix/networkmanager-without-gnome) https://git.io/vQxYX
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<makefu> sphalerite: you have a quick walkthrough on how you achieved it (or maybe there is already documentation about this)
<sphalerite> I don't, but it wasn't complicated — just debootstrap and use systemd-nspawn. There was a bug in debootstrap that I had to work around, can't remember the details, something to do with the shell
<sphalerite> I'm about to leave for a concert. Feel free to highlight/PM/email me if you have any questions, I should be able to get back to you tomorrow morning
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<magnetophon> Is the "Nix at Mozilla" video by garbas available anywhere else? I get: "Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here."
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<magnetophon> Ironically, it plays in chrome, but not in firefox. Must be due to some privacy plugins I installed...
<gchristensen> magnetophon: link to it?
<vincent_vdk> is there a way to update rustc in nixos?
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<sphalerite> vincent_vdk: you can use Mozilla's rust overlay
<johnw> shlevy: ping
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib: https://git.io/vb2a7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f73e524 Domen Kožar: elmPackages: statically link haskell deps in executables...
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<shlevy> johnw: pong
<vincent_vdk> sphalerite: thx
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/484b8c1e561 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<marc__> need help for configure networkmanager applet with kde plasma
<marc__> which lines in configuration.nix must add?
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<joepie91> marc__: networking.networkmanager.enable = true
<joepie91> after that, the applet *should* automatically appear in plasma
<marc__> ok thanks
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<joepie91> marc__: this is generally true btw, at least for the commonly used desktops; if you enable certain system features (bluetooth, networkmanager, pulseaudio, etc.) the correct applets for your chosen desktop environment will be automatically selected
<joepie91> without needing any additional desktop-environment-specific configuration
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<marc__> networking.wireless.enable = true;
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<marc__> is this line enough?
<disasm> so... if I screw up my firewall with like a syntax issue in extra commands, I revert and rebuild firewall refuses to start because chain name already exists.
<baldr> hey, is the current firefox version not available in the package manager?
<Yaniel> it is?
<Yaniel> what channel are you on?
<baldr> i installed nixos an hour ago, so, the default one?
<joepie91> marc__: no, you really need to enable networkmanager specifically
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<joepie91> baldr: quantum is not in the stable release channel yet I believe, if you use firefox-bin (which packages upstream Mozilla Firefox), then you'll get quantum (57)
<joepie91> this appears to be a recurring question :)
<joepie91> alternatively you can install `firefox` from unstable
<baldr> ok, how do i add the channel?
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<marc__> how i set passwd for a user in config.nix?
<marc__> users.extraUsers.marc = {
<marc__> isNormalUser = true;
<marc__> uid = 1000;
<marc__> };
<marc__> add new line after uid?
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<marc__> passwd = ***;
<marc__> ?
<srhb> marc__: If you meant configuration.nix (there's a distinctly different default file called config.nix) you might want to check the documentation for users.users.name.initialHashedPassword
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<srhb> baldr: Something like nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable nixos-unstable
<gchristensen> andi-: why does ipv6.watch show only partial support for ipv6 in nixos?
<andi-> gchristensen: nixos.org
<gchristensen> duh.
<baldr> srhb, thanks! and how can i now add this new channel to my configuration.nix so it always download quantum?
<Ralith> ugh
<srhb> baldr: oh hm, I don't think it gets fed to configuration.nix by default, I was assuming you were using nix-env
<Ralith> I can't upgrade my system because the flash player download url is broken *again* :|
<srhb> Ralith: I think hyper_ch made a PR for that already
<srhb> Ralith: But yes, dammit adobe.
<Ralith> and who knows how long that'll take to trickle down to stable
<Yaniel> why is flash even packaged
<baldr> srhb, yeah i could, but i want it in my configs :)
<srhb> baldr: Right, the process is a bit different then. Hang on..
<Yaniel> baldr: quantum is just marketing for 57 so once that lands in stable it'll stay there
<Ralith> srhb: it is no secret that adobe does this
<Ralith> we should have a workaround :/
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<baldr> srhb, scratch that, there is no need for the system to have a firefox
<srhb> baldr: Ah well, the general method is here anyway (the sha256 is wrong though, but it will tell you the right one when it fails) http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/_60Pq61_?nix
<srhb> Well, ONE method is here. :-)
<baldr> thanks :)
<Yaniel> :DD
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<andi-> gchristensen: plans to change that ? ;-)
<gchristensen> andi-: I'd love to, but it is a bit out of my set of privileges and I have to budget how I bug Eelco :P
<gchristensen> andi-: I mean https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/pull/38 is still waiting :|
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sorki opened pull request #32638: ipmicfg: 1.27.0 -> 1.27.1 (master...ipmicfg_2) https://git.io/vb2Pv
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<bkchr> Hi, I want to print the dynamic linker with: nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs>{ system = "i686-linux"; }; runCommand "dummy" { } ""' --run "cat \$NIX_CC/nix-support/dynamic-linker"
<bkchr> But that does not work
<bkchr> Anyone an idea what I'm doing wrong?
<tk_> Does anyone know the status of @layus's incremental building of nix packages?
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<andi-> gchristensen: mic92 once told me it is due to nixops not being able to work with IPv6 on AWS yet... I never used AWS otherwise I'd have tried
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<gchristensen> oh that ... might be related? I assumed it was 100% administrative stuff to do in the AWS interface
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32639: abcmidi: 2017.11.27 -> 2017.12.10 (master...abcmidi) https://git.io/vb21V
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<Judson> Did nix-devel land on google groups?
<Judson> Or somewhere else?
<cransom> yes
<cransom> hehe. `ipv6.nixos.org has address 54.217.220.47` indeed.
<gchristensen> cransom: how did you find ipv6.?
<cransom> its just a serveralias in the webserver config
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<gchristensen> ah
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ralith opened pull request #32640: vulkan-loader: 1.0.42.2 -> 1.0.61.1 (master...vulkan) https://git.io/vb2M7
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<Mic92> andi-: gchristensen there that allows to build virtual networks with v6 addresses, but you can not yet assign ipv6 addresses to vms
<Mic92> that would require to update the underlying library boto for that particular part
<Mic92> (in nixops)
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<gchristensen> gotcha
<Mic92> *there is a pr that allows
<Mic92> my writing has heavy loss due jet lag.
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<gchristensen> :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lopsided98 opened pull request #32641: release-lib: evaluate nixpkgs on armv6l and armv7l (master...arm-release-lib) https://git.io/vb2Dp
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee opened pull request #32642: electron-cash: 2.9.4 -> 3.0 (master...bump/electron-cash) https://git.io/vb2H1
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] kini opened pull request #32643: drat-trim: init at 20170831 (master...drat-trim) https://git.io/vb2Qm
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2QO
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 19841b5 Robert Schütz: abcmidi: 2017.11.27 -> 2017.12.10
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee closed pull request #32639: abcmidi: 2017.11.27 -> 2017.12.10 (master...abcmidi) https://git.io/vb21V
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<srhb> Everything sure is small in 4k...
* srhb squints
<joepie91> srhb: you're supposed to render everything twice as big on 4k, I think :P
<srhb> joepie91: I sorta gathered. :-P Just figuring out how.
<FireFly> and I think everything's small already..
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<vincent_vdk> a3
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<vincent_vdk> /names
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<toogley> is there some list of error codes nix-shell -p nox --run "nox-review wip" produces? i mean, for instance: https://dpaste.de/PiYM - what does that mean?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 31bc25f Michael Weiss: pythonPackages.raven: 6.3.0 -> 6.4.0
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb2bw
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 519a573 Florent Becker: emacsPackagesNg.caml: do not run ocaml's configure phase
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2a9c291 Thomas Tuegel: Merge pull request #32559 from FlorentBecker/fixTuareg...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ttuegel closed pull request #32559: emacsPackagesNg.caml: do not run ocaml's configure phase (master...fixTuareg) https://git.io/vbRh7
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bkchr opened pull request #32645: firmware-linux-nonfree: 2017-10-09-iwlwifi-fw-2017-11-03 -> 2017-12-0… (master...firmware_update) https://git.io/vb2bj
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<joepie91> toogley: that looks like an error that originates from git
<joepie91> likely due to a bug in nox or a dependency of it
<joepie91> that is, it's trying to use an object as a 'tree' (a directory listing, basically) but the object in question isn't a tree
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<joepie91> this should never happen in normal operation, so you can probably file a bug on nox for it
<toogley> hm, okay
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32646: cutemaze: init at 1.2.1 (master...cutemaze) https://git.io/vb2A3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] berce opened pull request #32647: wxPython: enable headers (master...upstream-wxPython) https://git.io/vb2AX
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<noobly> is anyone trying to do this but using haskell?
<noobly> I know GuixSD uses guile scheme
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<gchristensen> I know a lot of people use nix _with_ haskell
<gchristensen> but tbh I think the Nix language makes a lot of sense for the use case
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<noobly> gchristensen: have to say I agree after searching around for that and reading related tangents
<noobly> also didn't know GuixSD uses Nix
<gchristensen> GuixSD uses the nix-daemon but uses Guile to produce Derivations, which is what the nix-daemon consumes
<gchristensen> the Nix Language after being evaluated produces Derivations. GuixSD doesn't use the Nix Language
<noobly> oh, ok. I read an offhand comment claiming it did but perhaps I misunderstood, thanks for the clarification
<gchristensen> they took nixos and replaced the nix language with scheme, basically
<civodul> rather we took nix-daemon :-)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] berce opened pull request #32648: kicad: init unstable at version 2017-12-11 (master...upstream-kicad) https://git.io/vb2hZ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2h5
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b627c23 Michael Weiss: slop: Add pkgconfig as build dependency...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Ericson2314 pushed 17 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vb2jU
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 45d4b27 John Ericson: cc-wrapper: GNAT wrapper stop caring about `-m32`...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging fc7ed86 John Ericson: cc-wrapper: Pull variable mangler into utils.sh...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging bdd6c03 John Ericson: cc-wrapper: Use separate mangler for "bool" variables...
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<clever> gchristensen: that reminds me, i recently mixed nix and haskell in a new way
<gchristensen> oh?
<clever> let me find it...
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<gchristensen> good ol accidental C-y
<sgrace_wrk> Is it accidental?
<clever> gchristensen: line 175 is not template haskell
<clever> i'm using nix as a templating language for haskell
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<gchristensen> motherofgod
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<jb55> genius
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] etu opened pull request #32649: nvidia-x11: 387.22 -> 387.34 (master...nvidia-387.34) https://git.io/vbaf4
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<Synthetica> gchristensen: Still no release since Dec 11.?
<LnL> release?
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<Synthetica> Successful hydra build I guess
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<MP2E> doesn't it take more than 2 days to do a Hydra mass rebuild in the first place?
<MP2E> (though note I don't know if there are any mass rebuild changes that have been pushed in the past few days, just that such gaps are common)
<Synthetica> Well, but I haven't received any updates for more than a week now
<Synthetica> Is that also normal?
<Synthetica> *normal as well
<LnL> ah channel updates, what channel?
<samueldr> nixos-unstable hasn't been updated since 9 days ago: http://howoldis.herokuapp.com
<MP2E> unfortunately more common than it should be, but since it's been 9 days i think it's good that you brought it up
<MP2E> hm
<Synthetica> LnL: unstable
<Synthetica> samueldr: Where on that page does it say that?
<LnL> that sometimes takes more than a week if some stuff breaks
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<samueldr> > nixos-unstable9 days ago3eccd0b11d1nixos/trunk-combined/tested
<Synthetica> Ah, I see
<samueldr> though, if you're saying December 11th, you may be using nixpkgs-unstable
<samueldr> are you on nixos?
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<Synthetica> Yeah?
<Synthetica> But 11th is the last time I asked
<samueldr> ah, coincidence that nixpkgs-unstable is 2 days old (2 days ago was the 11th here)
<LnL> this should give you an idea of how often stuff updates https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html
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<Synthetica> LnL: thanks!
<LnL> the last eval doesn't have any failures yet, so it might update soon :)
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<Synthetica> :D
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<klaas_> hello, how do I get a full graph of reverse dependencies of any given package?
<klaas_> the reason is mainly curiosity... I updated Python's setuptools to a new version on my local system, and this triggers a couple of hours of recompilation
<klaas_> I wonder why half the world (indirectly) depends on this package
<symphorien> nix-store --query --referrers-closure
<symphorien> with nixUnstable there is also nix why-depends to answer this type of questions
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e4847b7 Eelco Dolstra: Update NixOS 17.09 AMIs...
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<earldouglas> Anyone used gpm much with NixOS? It seems to work fine for me, except `links -g` gives me the dreaded "cannot open gpm mouse".
<earldouglas> Not sure if it's a group permissions issue, or what.
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 af7e479 Eelco Dolstra: Update NixOS 17.09 AMIs...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32650: recoverjpeg: init at 2.6.1 (master...recoverjpeg) https://git.io/vbatZ
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] nickbeljaev opened pull request #32651: add build from 2.x branch solvespace (master...master) https://git.io/vbaqm
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<klaas_> thanks @symphorien that worked well
<ariutta> Hello, I am getting an error:
<ariutta> error: syntax error, unexpected $undefined, expecting IND_STR or DOLLAR_CURLY or IND_STRING_CLOSE, at /nix/store/5kn0iv4nj2m4sp7mfzcx38mg74dcd764-nixpkgs-18.03pre122433.8a7b2f889dd/nixpkgs/pkgs/tools/graphics/gnuplot/default.nix:42:44
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<ariutta> when I try "nix-env -i jq"
<ariutta> Is this likely a problem with the nix expression for gnuplot, or is the problem on my end?
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<ariutta> Here's the output from nix-info: system: "i686-linux", multi-user?: yes, version: nix-env (Nix) 1.11.2, channels(root): "nixpkgs-18.03pre122433.8a7b2f889dd", nixpkgs: /nix/store/5kn0iv4nj2m4sp7mfzcx38mg74dcd764-nixpkgs-18.03pre122433.8a7b2f889dd/nixpkgs
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<Unode> hi all, what determines how/when changes to a package in nixpkgs end up backported to the stable channel?
<Unode> Just ran into 'sxiv not installing a .desktop file' and this has been fixed in nixpkgs since late October but it's not present in nixos-17.09
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<Unode> ariutta: you seem to be using the unstable channel. Any reason for not using 17.09?
<sphalerite> Unode: for "when" it's usually immediately
<sphalerite> As for whether a change qualifies for backporting, it's a bit more complicated
<sphalerite> For that issue, I'd probably comment on it and ask for a backport
<Unode> sphalerite: pull request necessary or a simple issue is sufficient?
<sphalerite> I mean comment on the PR that fixed it
<Unode> ah
<Unode> will do
<ariutta> Unode: am I automatically subscribed to the stable channel?
<sphalerite> Or you can PR a cherry-pick
<Unode> ariutta: what do you get when you run "nix-channel --list" ?
<ariutta> Unode: I get "nixpkgs https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable" Regarding version, I was following this guide from the wiki: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Install_Nix_in_multi-user_mode_on_non-NixOS
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<ariutta> Unode: would this be better: "nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-stable"
<Unode> ariutta: note to self, do not assume people are on nixos since I'm often not there either :)
<Unode> ariutta: as to which channel, usually nixpkgs is ok but for some things it might be better to rely on the stable channels
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<Unode> well, stable being the ones that don't include 'unstable' on the branch name
<Unode> If you don't need bleeding edge versions, I recommend nixos-17.09 since that's the last stable release.
<Unode> At work I also use nix on a non-nix environment and there due to old kernels and what not, latest nixpkgs gives me "Kernel too old" errors a lot. nixos-17.09 is ok for now.
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<ariutta> Unode: since I'm installing Nix without nixos, it appears I should use Nix 1.11.16
<Unode> I'm not entirely sure but I don't think that should be a problem.
<Unode> I would expect any recent version of nix (the package manager binary) to work fine
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<Unode> ariutta: installing jq from nixos-17.09 works fine here
<ariutta> Unode: great, I'll give that a try. Thanks!
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* Ralith wonders why adding a patch to fix flash is forcing him to recompile mono and vulkan-loader, among other things
* Unode thinks flash is broken so any attempt at fixing it causes random dependencies to appear :)
<Ralith> mono and vulkan-loader seem to get recompiled every time I look at nixpkgs funny, honestly
<Ralith> idgi
<Ralith> something to do with steam, maybe?
<alexteves> anyone familiar with nix installer on macos can confirm that my clueless hack shows the issue is fixed?
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<evangeline> hi, does anybody use gnuradio-companion on nixos ... I'm wondering why sources is not available in it?
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<rnhmjoj[m]> Do you know where global gtk3 configuration go? settings.ini is loaded from /xdg/gtk-3.0/ but gtk.css only seem to work in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/
<rnhmjoj[m]> */etc/xdg/gtk-3.0/
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