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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #32620: Backporting meta fixes and from master (release-17.09...check-meta-17.09) https://git.io/vbgtl
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar opened pull request #32622: telepathy-morse: init at 0.1.0 (master...telepathy-morse) https://git.io/vbgmj
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbgYT
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 105d951 Graham Christensen: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into staging
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<iqubic`>
So, is it just not possible to use Firefox Quantum on Nixos at this current moment in time?
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<Yaniel>
been using it for a few weeks just fine already?
<iqubic>
How did you get it installed?
<Yaniel>
`nix-env -iA nixos.firefox`
<Yaniel>
well, I used config.nix but anyway
<iqubic>
And that pulled in firefox quantum for you?
<iqubic>
How do you know that it is Firefox Quantum?
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<iqubic>
Can I see a screenshot of your current web browser set-up?
<Yaniel>
well the about window says "Nightly 57.0.1 (64-bit)"
<Yaniel>
but that is firefox quantum
<Yaniel>
just without the mozilla branding
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<Yaniel>
"Quantum" is just marketing fluff for versions 57 to 60 or so
<joepie91>
iqubic: I run Quantum, using firefox-bin - yesterday or so somebody mentioned that unstable has Quantum (57) but stable/release does not
<Yaniel>
to highlight the inclusion of the new rust stuff
<joepie91>
under 'firefox' I mean
<Yaniel>
I thought stable got it even faster than unstable?
<iqubic>
Ah, I'm using 56.0.2
<gchristensen>
firefox-bin will be FF 57 on 17.09
<gchristensen>
making firefox ff57 will be a bit complicated b/c of issue with Rust
<gchristensen>
(but we definitely should do that)
<iqubic>
I am so very confused.
<makefu>
is there a way to fix socket.getprotobyname('tcp') related errors? i tried the libredirect trick but it does not seem to be working for the python unittest
<iqubic>
Using "Firefox-bin" gives me Firefox 56.0.2 and using "Firefox" gives me Nightly 56.0.2
<iqubic>
What the heck?
<iqubic>
Why is that not 57.XX.YY?
<gchristensen>
iqubic: sounds like your channel is out of date.
<gchristensen>
nixos-17.09 is currently at cb751f9b1c3fe6885f3257e69ce328f77523ad77 and has ff 57
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<iqubic>
How do I update my channel?
<gchristensen>
nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
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<iqubic>
Is it possible to have a script run when I log in?
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<iqubic>
Is it possible to have such a script run even if I have automatic log in.
<gchristensen>
normal linux techniques here apply
<iqubic>
I don't know the normal Linux techniques.
<clever>
iqubic: boot, graphic login, any shell opening, any login shell?
<iqubic>
I want this script to run when the graphic login occurs.
<iqubic>
Even though that's automatic.
<iqubic>
I set automatic login to true.
<clever>
iqubic: and what will the script do?
<jeaye>
Sounds like the job of a systemd service.
<iqubic>
It might be.
<iqubic>
clever: It's a script to set-up xcape.
<iqubic>
Or rather, to call it with the right parametera
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<jeaye>
Actually, sounds more like something which should be bound to the X session, a la ~/.xinitrc
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbglA
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 9e48634 Franz Thoma: nixos.gnome3.at-spi2-core: Set environment variable `NO_AT_BRIDGE=1` if disabled...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbg80
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 7550fd1 Jan Tojnar: phpPackages.php-cs-fixer: 2.8.3 → 2.9.0
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<dshin>
How are ~/.nix-profile/manifest.nix and ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix related?
<clever>
dshin: every time you nix-env -i or nix-env -e, it will load the manifest.nix into ram, apply the requested mutations, then generate a profile based on the new manifest.nix
<clever>
config.nix on the other hand, is just some overrides that apply to nixpkgs by default, to mutate the packages before nix-env even starts the build
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<dshin>
I see. thanks. Is it better to install packages using "nix-env -i" or by editing config.nix?
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<clever>
one trick ive been using recently, is to create a custom set within config.nix, and then nix-env -i that whole set
<srhb>
davidak: Probably a regional outage then. It's fine here.
<davidak>
ok, that could be possible. where are you?
<srhb>
davidak: Denmark.
<davidak>
i'm in germany
<srhb>
davidak: Funky.
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<davidak>
my nixos-rebuild worked now, so might be not so dramatic
<srhb>
davidak: I've seen all sorts of weird, intermittent failures with cloudfront on occasion. It's hard to debug and often looks like network errors. :/
<srhb>
And according to Amazon, everything is fine.
<davidak>
but a good reminder to investigate more decentralised infrastructure like IPFS :)
<jeaye>
Nix builds on IPFS would be sweet.
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<davidak>
I'm currently setting up my own S3 with minio for backups :)
<davidak>
very easy with NixOS
<jeaye>
The whole Nix community could would together to handle the exploding builds much better than Hydra.
<srhb>
If you still need a central (hydra.nixos.org) cluster to do the building in order to trust the artifacts, you've not gained that much.
<jeaye>
User: "I want the build with this hash." IPFS: "Here it is."
<jeaye>
davidak: I do now.
<srhb>
Yeah, but how does the user know which hash they want?
<srhb>
By comparing the inputs. And how do they trust those? etc...
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<jeaye>
srhb: The hash is calculated by Nix, which the user trusts.
<davidak>
srhb: yes, that is a hard issue that needs to be solved
<srhb>
I think it's fundamentally unsolvable. You need to trust _someone_ that produces the inputs, and then you need to trust the producer of those inputs, and then the producer of those inputs.
<davidak>
but we could build it centrally with hydra and put into IPFS now
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<davidak>
that would be a first step
<srhb>
And ultimately, you need to trust hydra.
<davidak>
also already implemented :)
<srhb>
I mean it solves distribution, but not builds.
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<fearlessKim[m]>
there doesn't seem to be a sbsitute for llvmPackages.clang-unwrapped, which clang package can I use instead to have a substitute (if any) ?
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<sphalerite>
srhb: I think you want systemctl isolate multi-user.target
<sphalerite>
(Be warned that it will probably kill the shell you run it from as well)
<sphalerite>
Oh wait no to disable other stuff as well
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<sphalerite>
Hmm maybe systemctl isolate network.target sshd.service would do it. Not sure though, I don't know if it supports multiple arguments nor if those would be enough
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<sphalerite>
oh, "Note that this is allowed only on units where AllowIsolate= is enabled. See systemd.unit(5) for details."
<sphalerite>
So yeah probably wouldn't work.
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<srhb>
sphalerite: Ah, interesting none the less :)
<srhb>
sphalerite: Thanks.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] knupfer opened pull request #32627: type-of-html should build now (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbgVy
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<hyper_ch>
so, flashplayer got version dump
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<hyper_ch>
how do use again a local clone of nixpkgs for building?
<srhb>
hyper_ch: -I nixpkgs=path
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<hyper_ch>
hmmm.... well, I need to rebuild chromium so that I get the sha sum of the new flash plugin since it changed before I can do a pr... but don't really know how to get that installed
<srhb>
Get what installed?
<srhb>
You can also use nix-prefetch-* to get the hashes, but you should still test that it works of course.
<hyper_ch>
if I download the tgz and just do sha256sum file it gives me a hash that is much longer than the ones in the .nix files
<hyper_ch>
chromium
<srhb>
nix-prefetch-url
<hyper_ch>
ah
<srhb>
But yeah, just install chromium with flash how you normally do it, but pointing at your patched nixpkgs.
<hyper_ch>
srhb: it's in my configuration.nix
<hyper_ch>
so how to test it with a local nixpkgs clone
<hyper_ch>
but still, when I do sha256sum on a file, I do get a longer hash sum then what nix uses or nix-prefetch shows - why?
<kini>
I want to add a program to nixpkgs, but the program doesn't have version numbers, just a github repo which gets committed to from time to time with updates
<kini>
how should I handle this in terms of the version number of the nix derivation?
<hyper_ch>
just use the commit
<kini>
but since commit hashes (in git) aren't monotonically increasing, `nix-env -u` won't properly upgrade, right?
<kini>
from what I understand, `nix-env -u` looks for "new versions" of packages in the environment by just parsing the text of the name fields of stuff in nixpkgs, right?
<hyper_ch>
no ide
<kini>
i.e. if "foo-1.0" is in the environment, and nixpkgs now contains "foo-2.0", then foo-2.0 replaces foo-1.0 in the environment when you do `nix-env -u`
<kini>
there's a function in the nix source code which parses out the version number from the name string and compares it by some algorithm
<hyper_ch>
but if something has no version numbers, it has none :)
<kini>
I was thinking I could put the date of the commit, as an 8 digit number, as the version, but then the problem is that if the maintainer decides to start releasing versions, all the old 8 digit date-numbers will be considered "larger" than the actual new version numbers
<kini>
how do you upgrade your packages if you never use nix-env -u?
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<evangeline>
clever: I have my own nix channel "evangeline file:///home/evangeline/nixpkgs", which is basically a clone of nixpkgs plus some additional things. I can install packages from it with "export NIXPKGS=/home/evangeline/nixpkgs; nix-env -f $NIXPKGS -i firefox", but why can't I install as follows: "nix-env -iA evangeline.firefox". Yesterday you mentioned that installing like this from a channel is possible and
<evangeline>
works for all channels, but the local one ... ?
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<spacefrogg>
evangeline: The channel would have to be accessible from /home/evangeline/.nix-defexpr
<spacefrogg>
I guess 'nix-channel --add file:///... evangeline' would add it properly.
<hyper_ch>
kini: nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
<hyper_ch>
kini: I use nixos as distro and I install everything throught the system config
<hyper_ch>
I don't install stuff as user
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<kini>
ahh I see
<kini>
I use nix at work where I'm not allowed to run nixos unfortunately :)
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<goibhniu>
evangeline: one option is to symlink your local repo to ~/.nix-defexpr/evangeline
<kini>
odd that nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade doesn't use the same textual extraction of version numbers setup though... is it because you specify the packages in your system config as attributes of the nixpkgs object?
<kini>
so then when nixpkgs gets updated the packages just automatically come along with it
<goibhniu>
sorry, didn't see spacefrogg already answered
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<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: 👍
<sphalerite>
As for your sha256sum question: sha256sum encodes it in base-16 while nix uses base-32
<sphalerite>
I think it also hashes more than just the file contents, so even if you converted sha256sum's output to base-32 it wouldn't be the same
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<andi->
Is there some way to construct a lambda which takes the exact (formal) arguments (or more) of a given lambda? I want to write a wrapper around a module so I can prefix/wrap the return attribute set without looking at it's "signature".
<srhb>
Has the encryptString primop been removed entirely?
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: borg likes my PR
<hyper_ch>
kini: with nixos it just uses the supplied channel and with --upgrade it fetches the newest version of it...
<18WAAAL9O>
nixpkgs/master b0340b6 quxbar: type-of-html should build now
<18WAAAL9O>
nixpkgs/master 90c289b Peter Simons: Merge pull request #32627 from knupfer/patch-1...
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<17SAAALR1>
[nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32627: type-of-html should build now (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbgVy
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<tomster>
manveru: just FYI i have decided to uninstall nixos on my work machine and run ubuntu because the nixos/chefdk related issues were just piling up and distracting from my actual work - so don't feel you need to look at the chefdk pkg for my sake
<tomster>
i have tested the patience of my team lead and coworkers for long enough...
<tomster>
thanks for your help again
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<nixer_01>
Hello! Whats the difference between "nix-store --verify" and "nix-store --verify --repair". The man does not state clearly if "--verify" only checks, or checks and repairs. Thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbg1s
<nixer_01>
Also, is there a method to accelerate "nix-env -qaP --description"? First query usually takes ~2 minutes, the next are only 5 seconds. I suspect its about iocache and random read. Is there a hands-on guide how to shorten this time? Thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar created haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib (+9 new commits): https://git.io/vbg17
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f8ab880 Domen Kožar: hevm: disable bin output to prevent a cycle
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f87bfb1 Domen Kožar: symlinkJoin: support multiple outputs...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib dc899c0 Domen Kožar: elm: fix with separate bin output
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<hedning[m]>
nixer_01: You can use `-A attributepath` instead of specifying a name, bash and zsh can also complete attribute paths, so it's a much nicer experience over all.
<sphalerite>
nixer_01: --verify without --repair only checks and reports on integrity, no changes I beliebe
<sphalerite>
Believe*
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<sphalerite>
nixer_01: for nix-env -qa, there isn't really a way to make it faster. It evaluates all of nixpkgs. You may want to cache its results instead. nox is nice for that
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<sphalerite>
Or you can use nixUnstable's nix search command, which also caches the results
<nixer_001>
hedning[m]: thanks! time measurements, showed that there is no speed difference between '.*name.*' , piping to grep or accessing by attrPath ("-A"). In all three cases the first search takes usually 2 minutes. I suspect this is because of unfilled IO cache of disk drive, random reads of which are slow.
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<kuznero>
Hi All!
<nixer_001>
hedning[m]: after first run, the delay reduces to 5 seconds. My question is its possible to cache that query, so that this delay goes away. :) Thanks!
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<kuznero>
Where can I find information about working on golang projects in nixos?
<sphalerite>
nixer_001: did you see my answer?
<nixer_01>
sphalerite: I see it just now.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar force-pushed haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib from 49dedaf to 7378681: https://git.io/vbgMM
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 280267c Domen Kožar: Revert "Merge pull request #32333 from NixOS/revert-32112-hask-split-out"...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib f09da87 Domen Kožar: hevm: disable bin output to prevent a cycle
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 482fd07 Domen Kožar: symlinkJoin: support multiple outputs...
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<sphalerite>
Nice connection you have there xD
<nixer_01>
sphalerite: Thanks! Well, I know nox, but its quite a pile of complexity just for the job. I am figuring out my own CLI tool, mostly shortcuts. Hence I am asking.
<hedning[m]>
nixer_01: huh, didn't know that `-qa` behaved that way. You could use `nixUnstable` as Linus said. I have symlinked just the `nix` command for when I want to use it, while leaving the other nix-tools on stable.
<sphalerite>
nixer_01: if you're writing a tool around it you may want to use --json as well
<nixer_01>
sphalerite: json outputs to XML correct? I am currently using: nix-env -qaP --description | grep -ie "$*" | sed 's/ */ /g' | less -X
<nixer_01>
where $* is "shift"ed so it contains only search expression.
<sphalerite>
nixer_01: no... It writes out json
<sphalerite>
Which can then be handled nicely using jq
<hedning[m]>
nixer_01: ah, misunderstood your isse, I'm guessing you're doing something like `nix-env -qaP -A nixos`, which of course takes a while.
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<vincent_vdk>
hi, is there a way to use the latest (or more recent) aws-cli in nixos
<vincent_vdk>
the one in 17.09 is a bit outdated
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar force-pushed haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib from 7378681 to 8751bdc: https://git.io/vbgMM
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 8751bdc Domen Kožar: haskell: add tests covering ghcWith{Packages,Hoogle}
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbgyc
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master afe9649 Peter Simons: python-suseapi: update to latest version...
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<nixer_01>
hedning[m]: the time to deliver searches is same. First query always takes 2 minutes on my system regardless if its direct query, piped to grep query or attribute path query. I think this has something to do with how nix stores database, the read operation is not sequental but spread over multiple files - I think disk iocache fills after first run, so for consequent queries the speed is reduced.
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<fuzzy_id>
can i do `mkIf stringVariable someAction` to test if `stringVariable` is set or null/empty?
<fuzzy_id>
i.e. someAction is only executed if stringVariable is not null or ""
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<gchristensen>
I thought remote builds left the result on the remote builder?
<gchristensen>
am I taking crazy pills?
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<sphalerite>
mbrock: ooooh right
<LnL>
what do you mean exactly?
<gchristensen>
so I just ...oh nevermind. I'm taking silly-pills. I was looking for the result of a build on the wrong remote builder :)
<sphalerite>
mbrock: it does mention that you need to set neededForBoot on it so that it gets mounted first
<LnL>
ah that wouldn't work :)
<sphalerite>
In your case they're both needed for boot so that solution doesn't apply
<LnL>
I've also been very confused about not finding stuff after a --keep-failed because I wasn't building locally
<gchristensen>
oh hehe
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<gchristensen>
ohhh other things that were confusing me :) I was doing all the building with aarch64 and the last bit with x8664 (where I symlink together some files) and so the actual file I wanted wasn't built on the aarch64 system, and was absent
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<evangeline>
spacefrogg: sorry for the late response, using "nix-channel --add file:///home/evangeline/nixpkgs/ evangeline" adds the channel as it was before, since I've used the same command previously. Therefore, it doesn't properly add a channel. I cannot install with "nix-env -iA evangeline.firefox", which gives me the following error: "error: attribute ‘evangeline’ in selection path ‘evangeline.firefox’ not
<evangeline>
found"
<spacefrogg>
evangeline: Did you do 'nix-channel --update' afterwards?
<evangeline>
spacefrogg: sorry no I didn't, it gives me the following error: "/run/current-system/sw/bin/nix-channel: you do not have write permission to ‘/nix/var/nix/manifests’!"
<avn>
evangeline: you should use -I nixpkgs=/home/evangeline/nixpkgs/, not channels, if you want use master
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<spacefrogg>
evangeline: Try to link you nixpkgs directory to ~/.nix-defexpr directly.
<spacefrogg>
your*
<evangeline>
avn: yeah that works, nix-env also works with -f $NIXPKGS, however I'm trying to understand why the nix-channels doesn't work ..
<avn>
evangeline: because channels do some specific magic ;) (I never use channels, only checkotus, so idk what they need)
<spacefrogg>
evangeline: me too. You're right. Direct linking is the way to go for local repositories. Adding a channel to a file:/// url does not work for me either.
<evangeline>
spacefrogg: should we file a bug, so this is taken into consideration by the community or is there any reason why is it like it is?
<SmallGnoll>
how do I setup a non-nixos kvm vm properly in nixos? To be clear, host is nixos, guest is debian.
<SmallGnoll>
all the docs I've found talk about virtual box or about nixos guest. even the nixops stuff...
<mbrock>
sphalerite: wow, the fileSystems list is actually topologically sorted using some funky ordering defined in nixos/lib/utils.nix
<sphalerite>
mbrock: yeah, that's to ensure that all the mount points exist
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<mbrock>
sphalerite: this is the dumbest thing ever but my current idea is to try mounting the nvme drive at "/ni" in order to prank the topological sort into believing that "/nix" depends on it
<mbrock>
(# FIXME: it's incorrect to simply use hasPrefix here: "/dev/a" is not a parent of "/dev/ab")
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<spacefrogg>
evangeline: I don't know if that is intended behaviour. You could, sure, file a bug on github.
<sphalerite>
mbrock: haha yes that does sound like it could work
<spacefrogg>
evangeline: No, I just told you nonsense. It was user error all along. You cannot just add a local repository with nix-channel because it expects a "channel" which is something different from a nixpkgs repository (e.g. contains a manifest).
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<evangeline>
spacefrogg: okay, so by adding the link manually you can use it nevertheless, but is otherwise not supported ?
<spacefrogg>
evangeline: Yes, basically. There are two things, that come together, here. nix-env uses directories in ~/.nix-defexpr to build a tree of installable packages. nix-channel makes nixpkgs channels known to nix-env and manages channel updates/rollbacks. Both tools just meet in the middle at ~/.nix-defexpr but for different purposes.
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<evangeline>
spacefrogg: great, thanks
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<clever>
evangeline: i have a much simpler way to make a fake local channel
<clever>
evangeline: any time nix-env tries to load the foo channel, it will import that nixpkgs
<evangeline>
clever: aren't channels stored directly in the ~/.nix-defexpr/, why not use "~/.nix-defexpr/foo/default.nix" then (without another test directory)?
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<clever>
evangeline: the first level 'test' is like a namespace, and different users have different permissions to it
<clever>
channels_root is a profile managed by root, so you cant just write to it
<clever>
channels is owned by your user, but via nix-env, so you cant just edit it however you want
<clever>
but test was made by you and nix doesnt manage it
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<evangeline>
clever: I'm not saying to write into channels_root/channels, but in the ~/.nix-defexpr directory. I'm pretty sure this would work without the test subdirectory also ... ~/.nix-defexpr/foo/default.nix
<spacefrogg>
evangeline: The exact algorithm is to look into ~/.nix-defexpr/* and see if it contains a default.nix, if so, the directory name is taken as the root of a package tree, if not, the algorithm iterates to the next level and discards the name of the directory. Thus, ~/.nix-defexpr/test/foo/default.nix ignores test and just takes foo
<evangeline>
spacefrogg: gotcha, thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2JE
<kuznero>
I am trying to figure out how to properly develop in nix-shell for a go project... Can somebody please help?
<kuznero>
I can nix-build with default.nix I have. But I don't know how to work with the project when I am inside nix-shell... `go install` does not seem to work in the current project's folder...
<joko>
kuznero: are you using go2nix?
<kuznero>
joko: I have tried to start that way, but it didn't work. So, I simply created a "hello world" main.go file in the repo and a simple default.nix with goPackagesPath = "github.com/something/something"; and src = ./.;
<kuznero>
I have learned that I need to construct a workspace, but was hoping that nix-shell can do it for me somehow...
<gchristensen>
what will finish faster: building a netboot image with Nix, or a noop puppet run? let's find out ...
<joko>
kuznero: If you want just to develop, a simple nix-shell -p go should be enough
<gchristensen>
by far, nix was faster.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2U4
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0be3f2c Tim Steinbach: atom: 1.22.0 -> 1.23.0
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vb2U0
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 d3bead5 Tim Steinbach: atom: 1.22.0 -> 1.23.0...
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<kuznero>
joko: `nix-shell -p go` will give me go without setting up GOPATH, etc. Should I construct a workspace myself?
<andi->
kuznero: yes, that just gives you the go binary in your PATH
<kuznero>
andi-: ok, thanks. Sounds a little inconvenient, but that might be go way for working with projects. Then what is the best practice in arranging new development environment for a go-based github repository with default.nix in it?
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<andi->
kuznero: only did the standard GOPATH workflow so far.. `go` is usually in my standard package set since I often need it
<kuznero>
andi-: so, the flow then is that I simply construct a new workspace potentially by settings GOPATH and clone my github repo into $GOPATH/src/github.com/something/somthing?
<mbrock>
uh oh, nixos-install doesn't seem to work on the 17.09 EC2 AMI... after a while I get an error about "changing mode of /nix/store/... to 100444: Read-only file system"
<gchristensen>
I don't think you need to call nixos-install with the AMI?
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<mbrock>
yeah, I'm trying to actually reinstall NixOS on another drive and switch over to that one
<mbrock>
all I really want is to use that drive to store /nix but I couldn't get a bind mount to work
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<fendor>
good morning, just trzing to install nixos for the first time, i created an efi partition, a lvm partition and a swap partition, i mounted the lvm partition and created configurations, but the installations fails because he cant find any boot partition
<Yaniel>
did you mount the efi partition to /mnt/boot ?
<fendor>
no, thanks!
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<cmiles74>
Has anyone done any work on getting Snap/snapd working on NixOS? I'm thinking about taking a stab at it.
<sphalerite>
SmallGnoll: for KVM, just use qemu
<sphalerite>
You can also use a wrapper around it like libvirt, basically same applies as on any other distro
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<cransom>
or at least you could around a year ago. i dont' think there have bveen any internals that changed that
<goibhniu>
fresheyeball: if you use a desktop manager you should also be able to configure it to show a prompt/suspend/hibernate etc.
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<fresheyeball>
goibhniu: I am on "xmonad + none"
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<goibhniu>
ah, ok
<samueldr>
logind is probably handling this, then
<gchristensen>
cransom: back up
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<sphalerite>
aww fresheyeball left
<sphalerite>
was going to suggest wrapping their x session with systemd-inhibit --what=handle-power-key
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<fresheyeball>
cransom: thanks for that! Worked perfectly!
<fresheyeball>
now my kid can't sneak up on me and shut down my laptop
<Guest67032>
16:33:40 sphalerite | was going to suggest wrapping their x session with systemd-inhibit --what=handle-power-key │ AndersonTorres[m
<Guest67032>
Might be a better option
<Guest67032>
Oh, pardon me, AndersonTorres[m, wonky IRC client here at work
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<sphalerite>
it does depend on whether you want it to be handled at all really
<sphalerite>
I've been meaning to set it up on my chromebook so that when I press it it displays a timeout on the screen before shutting down
<sphalerite>
i.e. I have to hold it
<sphalerite>
SmallGnoll: did you see my answer to your question earlier?
<SmallGnoll>
sphalerite: k I'll try qemu. anything special I should look out for? maybe a declarative nix way of doing things?
<SmallGnoll>
sphalerite: yeah came in to say thanks :)
<sphalerite>
not particularly, qemu is very imperative and won't store machine settings, it depends largely on what you want to use the VMs for
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<samueldr>
I've had success in creating the rootfs of debian guests with virt-builder
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<sphalerite>
if it's for running services libvirtd is quite likely to be your best bet, and then you can use virt-manager if you like your GUIs to manage them
<samueldr>
and yes, I too would recommend virt-manager to handle the VMs
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<SmallGnoll>
sphalerite: well I have a few different things in mind but for now I just want to setup a debian vm to compile openwrt on. later I might want to run a service or two so I figured virtualbox will hold me back...
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<SmallGnoll>
samueldr: looks informative. thx
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<makefu>
SmallGnoll: i think i have a shell.nix which provides an environment where you can build openwrt
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<SmallGnoll>
makefu: image builder too? cause I need code -> image builder -> image rather than image builder -> image
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<makefu>
ah you want to build the imagebuilder via openwrt sources?
<SmallGnoll>
kinda have to if I'm going to patch the kernel :/
<SmallGnoll>
but if you can point me to how to just use the imagebuilder it would save me some time too :)
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<makefu>
SmallGnoll: imagebuilder will unfortunately not be enough if you want to patch the kernel, it is only for essentially sticking all the packages you want into an image
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<SmallGnoll>
makefu: yeah I know :/ still, I have a few different boxes and some actully use upstream lede kernels so it will simplify things if I use the vm just the ones I really have to...
<SmallGnoll>
besides, I'm planning to upstream my patches (should I actually succeed porting) so hopefully I'll use the official builder for everything eventually :3
<makefu>
good luck :D with lede the contribution should be easier (supposently)
<makefu>
SmallGnoll: yes, but unfortunately this is only for the imagebuilder ...
<makefu>
lassulus tv: didn't one of you two have a working fhsUserEnv shell.nix for openwrt?
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<SmallGnoll>
makefu: got it. still, a step in the right direction. I'll patch and build the image builder in the vm and use this for the builder -> image part. thanks :)
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<makefu>
yes, this should work. there are also people who are running ubuntu/arch in a systemd container
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<sphalerite>
Yeah I'm running Ubuntu in a systemd-nspawn container, used it to build lineageOS
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<SmallGnoll>
container... hmm... well, first I'll get the image building going and then we'll see :)
<makefu>
sphalerite: you have a quick walkthrough on how you achieved it (or maybe there is already documentation about this)
<sphalerite>
I don't, but it wasn't complicated — just debootstrap and use systemd-nspawn. There was a bug in debootstrap that I had to work around, can't remember the details, something to do with the shell
<sphalerite>
I'm about to leave for a concert. Feel free to highlight/PM/email me if you have any questions, I should be able to get back to you tomorrow morning
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<magnetophon>
Is the "Nix at Mozilla" video by garbas available anywhere else? I get: "Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here."
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<magnetophon>
Ironically, it plays in chrome, but not in firefox. Must be due to some privacy plugins I installed...
<joepie91>
after that, the applet *should* automatically appear in plasma
<marc__>
ok thanks
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<joepie91>
marc__: this is generally true btw, at least for the commonly used desktops; if you enable certain system features (bluetooth, networkmanager, pulseaudio, etc.) the correct applets for your chosen desktop environment will be automatically selected
<joepie91>
without needing any additional desktop-environment-specific configuration
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<marc__>
networking.wireless.enable = true;
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<marc__>
is this line enough?
<disasm>
so... if I screw up my firewall with like a syntax issue in extra commands, I revert and rebuild firewall refuses to start because chain name already exists.
<baldr>
hey, is the current firefox version not available in the package manager?
<Yaniel>
it is?
<Yaniel>
what channel are you on?
<baldr>
i installed nixos an hour ago, so, the default one?
<joepie91>
marc__: no, you really need to enable networkmanager specifically
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<joepie91>
baldr: quantum is not in the stable release channel yet I believe, if you use firefox-bin (which packages upstream Mozilla Firefox), then you'll get quantum (57)
<joepie91>
this appears to be a recurring question :)
<joepie91>
alternatively you can install `firefox` from unstable
<baldr>
ok, how do i add the channel?
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<marc__>
how i set passwd for a user in config.nix?
<marc__>
users.extraUsers.marc = {
<marc__>
isNormalUser = true;
<marc__>
uid = 1000;
<marc__>
};
<marc__>
add new line after uid?
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<marc__>
passwd = ***;
<marc__>
?
<srhb>
marc__: If you meant configuration.nix (there's a distinctly different default file called config.nix) you might want to check the documentation for users.users.name.initialHashedPassword
<gchristensen>
andi-: why does ipv6.watch show only partial support for ipv6 in nixos?
<andi->
gchristensen: nixos.org
<gchristensen>
duh.
<baldr>
srhb, thanks! and how can i now add this new channel to my configuration.nix so it always download quantum?
<Ralith>
ugh
<srhb>
baldr: oh hm, I don't think it gets fed to configuration.nix by default, I was assuming you were using nix-env
<Ralith>
I can't upgrade my system because the flash player download url is broken *again* :|
<srhb>
Ralith: I think hyper_ch made a PR for that already
<srhb>
Ralith: But yes, dammit adobe.
<Ralith>
and who knows how long that'll take to trickle down to stable
<Yaniel>
why is flash even packaged
<baldr>
srhb, yeah i could, but i want it in my configs :)
<srhb>
baldr: Right, the process is a bit different then. Hang on..
<Yaniel>
baldr: quantum is just marketing for 57 so once that lands in stable it'll stay there
<Ralith>
srhb: it is no secret that adobe does this
<Ralith>
we should have a workaround :/
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<baldr>
srhb, scratch that, there is no need for the system to have a firefox
<srhb>
baldr: Ah well, the general method is here anyway (the sha256 is wrong though, but it will tell you the right one when it fails) http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/_60Pq61_?nix
<srhb>
Well, ONE method is here. :-)
<baldr>
thanks :)
<Yaniel>
:DD
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<andi->
gchristensen: plans to change that ? ;-)
<gchristensen>
andi-: I'd love to, but it is a bit out of my set of privileges and I have to budget how I bug Eelco :P
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<srhb>
Everything sure is small in 4k...
* srhb
squints
<joepie91>
srhb: you're supposed to render everything twice as big on 4k, I think :P
<srhb>
joepie91: I sorta gathered. :-P Just figuring out how.
<FireFly>
and I think everything's small already..
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<vincent_vdk>
a3
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<vincent_vdk>
/names
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<toogley>
is there some list of error codes nix-shell -p nox --run "nox-review wip" produces? i mean, for instance: https://dpaste.de/PiYM - what does that mean?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vb2bz
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 31bc25f Michael Weiss: pythonPackages.raven: 6.3.0 -> 6.4.0
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] ttuegel pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb2bw
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 519a573 Florent Becker: emacsPackagesNg.caml: do not run ocaml's configure phase
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2a9c291 Thomas Tuegel: Merge pull request #32559 from FlorentBecker/fixTuareg...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] ttuegel closed pull request #32559: emacsPackagesNg.caml: do not run ocaml's configure phase (master...fixTuareg) https://git.io/vbRh7
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<klaas_>
hello, how do I get a full graph of reverse dependencies of any given package?
<klaas_>
the reason is mainly curiosity... I updated Python's setuptools to a new version on my local system, and this triggers a couple of hours of recompilation
<klaas_>
I wonder why half the world (indirectly) depends on this package
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[nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32650: recoverjpeg: init at 2.6.1 (master...recoverjpeg) https://git.io/vbatZ
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[nixpkgs] nickbeljaev opened pull request #32651: add build from 2.x branch solvespace (master...master) https://git.io/vbaqm
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<klaas_>
thanks @symphorien that worked well
<ariutta>
Hello, I am getting an error:
<ariutta>
error: syntax error, unexpected $undefined, expecting IND_STR or DOLLAR_CURLY or IND_STRING_CLOSE, at /nix/store/5kn0iv4nj2m4sp7mfzcx38mg74dcd764-nixpkgs-18.03pre122433.8a7b2f889dd/nixpkgs/pkgs/tools/graphics/gnuplot/default.nix:42:44
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<Unode>
well, stable being the ones that don't include 'unstable' on the branch name
<Unode>
If you don't need bleeding edge versions, I recommend nixos-17.09 since that's the last stable release.
<Unode>
At work I also use nix on a non-nix environment and there due to old kernels and what not, latest nixpkgs gives me "Kernel too old" errors a lot. nixos-17.09 is ok for now.
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<ariutta>
Unode: since I'm installing Nix without nixos, it appears I should use Nix 1.11.16
<Unode>
I'm not entirely sure but I don't think that should be a problem.
<Unode>
I would expect any recent version of nix (the package manager binary) to work fine
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<Unode>
ariutta: installing jq from nixos-17.09 works fine here
<ariutta>
Unode: great, I'll give that a try. Thanks!
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* Ralith
wonders why adding a patch to fix flash is forcing him to recompile mono and vulkan-loader, among other things
* Unode
thinks flash is broken so any attempt at fixing it causes random dependencies to appear :)
<Ralith>
mono and vulkan-loader seem to get recompiled every time I look at nixpkgs funny, honestly
<alexteves>
anyone familiar with nix installer on macos can confirm that my clueless hack shows the issue is fixed?
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<evangeline>
hi, does anybody use gnuradio-companion on nixos ... I'm wondering why sources is not available in it?
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<rnhmjoj[m]>
Do you know where global gtk3 configuration go? settings.ini is loaded from /xdg/gtk-3.0/ but gtk.css only seem to work in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/
<rnhmjoj[m]>
*/etc/xdg/gtk-3.0/
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