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<Unode> Ralith: mono could also be wine, if you have it.
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<Ralith> I don't
<dpren> How do I update nix, as in the command-line tools? Should I just curl the latest version?
<kini> dpren: why not use nix to install (and/or upgrade) nix?
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<dpren> kini: I'm new - wasn't aware of that option.
<dpren> so like `nix-install-package nix` ?
<kini> `nix-env -i nix` I think? (I'm new too :) )
<kini> `nix-env -i nix` worked for me, at least
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<samueldr> for production purposes, on debian, my provision script installs nix with nix (`nix-env -i nix`) to allow it to update using nix
<samueldr> (that is, after an installation from the .deb file)
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<dpren> this just on macOS for me, using it with haskell stack
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<dpren> which uses nix-shell
<dpren> wow I'm way in the weeds from whatever I was originally doing, I'll have to come back to this
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #32630: flashplayer: 27.0.0.187 -> 28.0.0.126 [Moderate security fix] (master...flashplayer-28.0.0.126) https://git.io/vbgHX
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #32628: flashplayer: 27.0.0.187 -> 28.0.0.126 (master...master) https://git.io/vbgoc
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbanG
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0098b23 Bart Brouns: lv2-unstable: 2016-10-23 -> 2017-07-08
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 70030c5 Bart Brouns: raul: unstable-2016-09-20 -> unstable-2017-07-23
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 66236d1 Bart Brouns: ingen: unstable-2017-01-18 -> unstable-2017-07-22
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8699ccb James Earl Douglas: jenkins: 2.93 -> 2.94
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ea15e43 Joachim F: Merge pull request #32601 from earldouglas/jenkins-2.94...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging fe61c3b Orivej Desh: bloaty: update path to c++filt after #29396
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<pcarrier> audacity only seems to support ALSA and not pulseaudio here
<pcarrier> is it only me? am I missing a setting?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] phunehehe opened pull request #32652: terraform: set default version to 0.11 (master...terraform) https://git.io/vba4W
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<aanderse> so i have a desktop running nixos and i installed nixops onto it tonight
<aanderse> i also have a htpc running nixos
<aanderse> i copied the config from the htpc onto my desktop and then created a nixops script to replicate the htpc
<aanderse> and set the target to be the htpc
<aanderse> just so i could manage the htpc via nixops instead of managing the htpc locally
<aanderse> i noticed /etc/nixos/configuration.nix is still there
<aanderse> do i need to keep /etc/nixos/configuration.nix on the htpc?
<cransom> no
<aanderse> so what can/should i all delete from the htpc file system?
<aanderse> i have 3 htpcs in the house and want to convert the other 2 to nixops so i can manage all 3 pcs from one location
<aanderse> any advice? any cool features i might benefit from?
<cransom> you could garbage collect and remove things in /etc/nixos. i don' tknow if there's much more beyond that you could collect
<aanderse> and i can run those commands from my desktop via the ssh for each bit?
<aanderse> also, is there a convention for where i should store my nixops files on my desktop? don't want to lose them :)
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<cransom> if you have nixops, there's nothing left that you'd need ssh specifically for.
<aanderse> sorry, haven't read through the whole manual yet... i'm assuming from what you said i can run a remote garbage collection on the htpc from my desktop then?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vaibhavsagar opened pull request #32653: Update haskell.md (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vba0Y
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vba0B
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9b6ef35 Peter Hoeg: neomutt: 20171027 -> 20171208
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<Ralith> has anyone gotten a samba client+server working with a public share?
<Ralith> no matter what I do mount gives me "permission denied" and there are no errors in the server logs at all ;_;
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<Ralith> even at maximum log verbosity there isn't so much as an error
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<Ralith> there isn't so much as a notice of connection, even
<Ralith> oh, it writes out to files instead of using journald ;_;
<playX> Why borderlands 2 closes after pressing start, i added that to configuration nix like one week ago (steam.override { extraPkgs = p: [ p.iana-etc ]; })
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<Ralith> whew, got it
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<Fare> sphalerite, so in the end your C201 is not fully functional with nixos because of missing drivers in the default kernel?
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<vaibhavsagar> does NixOS run on aarch64 now or just Nix?
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<catern> hey #nixos
<catern> what is the idiomatic way to locate C libraries from Python for use with ctypes, on Nix?
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<fearlessKim[m]> is there a search engine for substitutes ? I can't seem to find clang substitutes and clang5 tests fail on nixos-unstable (trying with clang4.0.1 now)
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<sphalerite> Fare: most things are working
<sphalerite> I think the only things that are still missing are graphics acceleration and Bluetooth. Bluetooth should just be a matter of finding and enabling the right kernel driver hopefully
<sphalerite> Not sure about graphics acceleration
<sphalerite> But I've been able to use it for a lot of day-to-day tasks
<sphalerite> The biggest missing thing for now, I'd say, is a graphical browser
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<sphalerite> Which is mostly because of how long it would take to build. But I'm probably going to give it a shot on a scaleway ARM server
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<sphalerite> vaibhavsagar: nixos :)
<vaibhavsagar> yay!
<sphalerite> catern: it's a bit of a mess I think, we have some patches for that to stock python code in nixpkgs which you may want to look at
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<Fare> sphalerite, could you extract the configuration from the initial chromebook kernel and/or debian?
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<Fare> I'm wondering if I want to try nixpkgs on my phone, or get a chromebook and if so arm or x64.
<sphalerite> I didn't use a stock chrome OS kernel because it doesn't have fbcon
<Fare> sphalerite, could you boot one just long enough to extract its configuration? Or otherwise extract the configuration from the binary?
<Fare> then you'd know what drivers to use
<Fare> and flags, etc.
<Fare> is there a way to have nixpkgs on my phone with a shell terminal?
<sphalerite> No, the stock kernel doesn't have embedded config :(
<fpletz> Fare: you could try to compile nix in termux or build a package for termux
<sphalerite> Fare: and debian's kernel wouldn't boot on it iirc
<Fare> no /proc/config.gz ? :-(
<Fare> I suppose they saved every bit they could
<sphalerite> Yep
<sphalerite> But you can build it from the chromium sources somehow or other
<sphalerite> Haven't worked out how but it's definitely possible
<Fare> fpletz, I'll probably try that.
<fpletz> there is also an open PR
<sphalerite> But if you're looking for a system with maximum practical use, I'd suggest going for an Intel one, not an ARM one
<sphalerite> It's just a lot more fuss, both to set up and then you have to build everything
* Fare wants a mobile machine until Lenovo sends back a working laptop (since 2 months!!!!)
<sphalerite> I mean, a full system rebuild takes 32h on it
<sphalerite> Could be worse, but could be a lot better too :p
<fpletz> we do have aarch64 binaries on cache.nixos.org though :)
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<sphalerite> Not armv7 though
<sphalerite> Are there aarch64 Chromebooks out?
<fpletz> sphalerite: according to archlinuxarm.org there are a few
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<fpletz> Fare: you could try to look up which kernel and config to use from the kernel pkgbuilds from arch linux, they support lots of arm boards
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<LexLeoGryfon> do you like AppImage? https://appimage.github.io/apps/
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<hyper_ch> hmmm, still getting that unbound variable isse on builder.sh https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/75159bbb#L37
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<hyper_ch> sphalerite for the rescue :)
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<7GHABI4V0> [nixpkgs] pSub pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vba6Z
<7GHABI4V0> nixpkgs/master cc8254a Robert Schütz: recoverjpeg: init at 2.6.1
<7GHABI4V0> nixpkgs/master 7de78d3 Pascal Wittmann: Merge pull request #32650 from dotlambda/recoverjpeg...
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<17SAAA45H> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #32650: recoverjpeg: init at 2.6.1 (master...recoverjpeg) https://git.io/vbatZ
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<sphalerite> hyper_ch: what's the expression that got you that error?
<sphalerite> LexLeoGryfon: Not particularly. It bundles dependencies that could be shared in a model like nix's.
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<Fare> trying to install nixpkgs in termux...
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<Fare> the install complains that unpack/nix-1.11.16-aarch64-linux/install is not found in the bootstrap tarball :-(
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] teto opened pull request #32657: [WIP] Neovim wrapper (master...neovim) https://git.io/vbaiI
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<Fare> but maybe it's just that busybox's tar wasn't as good as GNU tar...
<Fare> nope, same differenc.
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<Fare> oh... the file exists, but not the ld.so that the file is linked against
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #32442: scalafmt: 0.6.8 -> 1.3.0 (master...scalafmt-130) https://git.io/vblpK
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<Fare> or something like thath
<Fare> can't create /nix: read-only file system :-(
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<17SAAA5LQ> [nixpkgs] pSub pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbaiQ
<17SAAA5LQ> nixpkgs/master 1ccd3b9 Vincent Laporte: ott: 0.25 -> 0.27
<17SAAA5LQ> nixpkgs/master aacf756 Pascal Wittmann: Merge pull request #32538 from vbgl/ott-0.27...
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<7GHABI409> [nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #32538: ott: 0.25 -> 0.27 (master...ott-0.27) https://git.io/vbRen
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4bbb9fc Vaibhav Sagar: Update haskell.md...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a38ea94 Pascal Wittmann: Merge pull request #32653 from vaibhavsagar/patch-1...
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<makefu> here is a weird thing. i tried to build pytrainer by hand -> the package is available in the the binary cache but when i disable binary cache usage the build fails with "NameError: name '_' is not defined" . i am building with sandboxing enabled
<makefu> anybody had a similar issue?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vba1e
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 00d379a Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gtksourceview: 3.24.5 → 3.24.6
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c2de94d Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gtksourceview: clean up
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 5f94da0 Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gtksourceview: enable tests
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<jtojnar> makefu: I get the same error https://hydra.nixos.org/build/65959583
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<jtojnar> no idea why it is grabbing it from binary cache
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<lewo``> I have a running nixos system with a /nix on /dev/sda. I would like to move /nix on /dev/sdb and I only have a ssh access to this host. How can I do this? Could I use a statically linked mv and ln binaries?
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<fearlessKim[m]> I found out the hydra wbpage, I didn't remember it was so fancy, it is quite cool now
<makefu> lewo``: how about copy over all stuff, change the partition mounting via nixos-rebuild and reboot? this should work
<makefu> do you have a virtual console for navigating grub?
<lewo``> makefu: no, I don't have this kind of stuff. So I'm a bit afraid to rebuild and pray :)
<makefu> lewo``: i see :D
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<fendor> hello, i am using gnome3 currently and experiencing problems when using my touchscreen, do i need additional packages?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar opened pull request #32660: meson: 0.43.0 → 0.44.0 (master...meson) https://git.io/vbaHI
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<jtojnar> fendor: what kind of problems are you experiencing?
<fendor> jtojnar, when touching my screen, gnome just logs me out and dies
<jtojnar> are you using 17.09 or unstable
<jtojnar> ?
<jtojnar> I believe this was fixed on unstable
<fendor> i am using 17.09 and i added the unstable channe
<fendor> jtojnar, sweet and how to fix?
<jtojnar> we should probably backport the fix t o 17.09
<jtojnar> you can install gnome3.caribou
<fendor> in my configuration.nix?
<jtojnar> yes
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<fendor> ok, thanks! i ll try it out
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<fendor> jtojnar, fixed it, thanks!
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 f506b80 Jan Tojnar: gnome3.gnome_shell: propagate caribou...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar created release-17.09 (+186 new commits): https://git.io/vba7i
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 f4f12c3 Bas van Dijk: pgmanage: init at 10.0.2 & deprecate postage...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 992dee0 Joerg Thalheim: system-config-printer: fix python path...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 d29f871 Kjetil Orbekk: munin: 2.0.33 -> 2.0.34...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar reopened pull request #29935: cc-wrapper: More intelligent sierra hack (release-17.09...appease-sierra-linker-17.09) https://git.io/vdsbj
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar reopened pull request #32387: buildkite: allow configuration and actual use of agent-specific hooks (release-17.09...buildkite-hook-configuration) https://git.io/vbccz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar reopened pull request #32096: Sync all-cabal-hashes with a38a3e2 (release-17.09...sync-all-cabal-hashes) https://git.io/vbe0F
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar reopened pull request #32595: XSA backport of #32319 (release-17.09...xsa_backport) https://git.io/vbuyz
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar reopened pull request #32620: Backporting meta fixes and from master (release-17.09...check-meta-17.09) https://git.io/vbgtl
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<dbe> So I've essentially done what is strictly within the realm of "Bad Ideas (tm)" - namely to install a window manager from nix within ubuntu. I have one issue which I would like to understand why it's happening, though, which is this one:
<dbe> (gconf:26338): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'list-add' for stock: Unable to load image-loading module: /nix/store/cwjj9xb8yfbc6zj1gc8nj4x48gs0klkh-librsvg-2.40.17/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /nix/store/ssh01mrqxq7gjsbqrhp3l4jvrnfw6mr5-util-linux-2.30.2/lib/libmount.so.1)
<dbe> My LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty. I've ldd'd the .so-file, and it's libc is in the nix store...
<dbe> but then, why is is trying to load /lib/.../libc.so, and not /nix/store/.../libc.so?
<dbe> Another thing which I think is wierd; if I do 'nix-shell -p utillinux libc stdenv gdk_pixbuf librsvg', I still get this error
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<dbe> I solved it; needed to run "unset GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE"
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32645: firmware-linux-nonfree: 2017-10-09-iwlwifi-fw-2017-11-03 -> 2017-12-0… (master...firmware_update) https://git.io/vb2bj
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<pie__> any reccomendations for setting up a temporary ssh user?
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<fendor> hey, i try to use jupyter notebooks with python but when starting jupyter notebook, the kernel dies and can't restart it
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<fendor> also, when using python, i install packages via nix-env, right? because i can not import the modules in the interpreter
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<LnL> you'll want to use the withPackages helper
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<LnL> there's a section about python in the manual https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#python
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<DIzFer[m]> I swear, I've read the three manuals, and almost every day someone links to it I learn something new
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9b15ef1fc0a (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 9 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbajR
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 cf76a80 Jan Malakhovski: stdenv/generic/check-meta: fix error message evaluation...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 fcbf6ee Jan Malakhovski: tree-wide: fix either check-meta or meta attrs of all the packages I evaluate...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 b640ae6 Vladimír Čunát: stdenv checkMeta: throw -> trace...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32646: cutemaze: init at 1.2.1 (master...cutemaze) https://git.io/vb2A3
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f506b80fffd (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVfA
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b2973d5 Graham Christensen: taglib: fixup meta
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jluttine opened pull request #32662: pythonPackages.XlsxWriter: init at 1.0.2 (master...add-xlsxwriter) https://git.io/vbVJs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbVJE
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b45be40 Graham Christensen: airspy: fixup meta
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ae9a7c4 Graham Christensen: stdenv: make knownVulnerabilities a known meta-type
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<das-g[m]> I'd like to try the Python package `tablib` (not to be confused with `taglib`).
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<das-g[m]> I tried the `--show-trace` option, but am not quite sure what to make of the output. (Is the head or the tail of the trace the interesting part?) How do I best proceed?
<das-g[m]> According to https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tablib/ , `tablib` is available for Python 3.6
<periklis> hey, i am getting this right, binutils wrapper is merged and according to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/8 we are heading to cross-compilation support in nixpkgs? (anyway many many kudos to Ericson1234 for the great work so far)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVU7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 41a4bde Michael Weiss: gpgme: 1.9.0 -> 1.10.0...
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<gchristensen> heads up: grahamcofborg now checks if the meta fields are valid in nixpkgs. let me know if you find a problem by opening an issue at https://github.com/grahamc/ofborg/issues please
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbVI9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e6676bd Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.68 -> 4.9.69
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 66e3666 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.14.5 -> 4.14.6
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbVI7
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 028fe7b Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.14.5 -> 4.14.6...
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<sphalerite> das-g: it's probably just a matter of the metadata in nixpkgs. You can probably get it working by just changing the enabled attribute or whatever it was on it
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<das-g[m]> How would I do that?
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<sphalerite> Do you have a nixpkgs checkout?
<das-g[m]> Yes, I do. But my NixOS is on release 17.09, not master
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<srhb> Is there a nice way of defining ad hoc modules in configuration.nix? I "just" want to have an arbitrary variable be set in the fixpoint.
<sphalerite> I can't remember the exact details and I'm on my phone so I can't help you properly, but basically look for tablib in python-packages.nix and then find the enabled attribute and change it to include python 3 (or maybe remove it entirely)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVLc
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 2e21451 Tim Steinbach: atom: 1.23.0 -> 1.23.1
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<sphalerite> srhb: you can just put a module function in the imports list
<sphalerite> das-g: then check out the nixos-17.09 branch and make the change there
<srhb> sphalerite: Duh... :-)
<sphalerite> If it works fine, you could commit it and make a PR so others can benefit from it too :)
<das-g[m]> When researching the problem, I found #28643 , which links to a failed build
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVtm
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3f3e548 Tim Steinbach: kotlin: 1.1.60-b55 -> 1.2.10
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<das-g[m]> How again do I install an individual package from a nixpkgs checkout?
<ciil_> das-g[m]: nix-env -f /path/to/nixpkgs -iA attrname iirc
<das-g[m]> thanks. I keep forgetting where to look this stuff up.
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<dkibi> hello everyone, I'm trying to use repository version of Isabelle, which unfortunately does its owen black magic by bundling its dependencies. There is a package available which does the necessary patches, but how this can be used with nix-shell is beyond my "google copy & paste" knowledge of the system.
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<symphorien> dkibi: the simplest solution is 1/ clone nixpkgs 2/ go to the file defining isabelle in the repo (you can find it on https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html) 3/ fix the url 4/ at the root of the repo, `nix-build . -A isabelle` it will complain about the hash, fix it, retry, enjoy :)
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b1f85486703 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/afe9649210c (from 27 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #32664: liblscp: 0.5.8 -> 0.6.0 (master...liblscp) https://git.io/vbVqM
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<symphorien> ah forgot to say: to run this custom version of isabelle, use ./result/bin/isabelle
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] magnetophon opened pull request #32665: qsampler: 0.4.3 -> 0.5.0 (master...qsampler) https://git.io/vbVqj
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<dkibi> symphorien: ah thanks I will try this. I assume I can also set the source to a local copy of the repository?
<symphorien> yes, but remove the quotes around the path, then (I think)
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<symphorien> mmh maybe even remove completely the call to fetchurl : src = ./path/to/repo
<dkibi> having an explicit local clone seems to be quite a common practice in the nix ecosystem or am I mistaken?
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<Yaniel> a clone of nixpkgs?
<dkibi> yes
<Yaniel> it's one way of customizing your packages
<symphorien> you could do without with isabelle.overrideAttrs but is it a bit more cumbersome imo
<Yaniel> but most of the time you can get away with overrides or referring another channel
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #32652: terraform: set default version to 0.11 (master...terraform) https://git.io/vba4W
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<sphalerite> Or overlays
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<hyper_ch> anyone using skype? In unstable small I get an error that hash has changed of the file... version is still the same though... does skype update the package without altering the version?
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<gchristensen> they do :|
<Neo--> lol, *slowclap* :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 942a7f2 Orivej Desh: zfs: 0.7.3 -> 0.7.4...
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<hyper_ch> gchristensen: that was aimed at me?
<gchristensen> it was
<hyper_ch> want me to make pr?
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<Neo--> did anyone converted any projects that use webpack to nix? we have docker at the moment and i did the node2nix thingy, but for some reason running full webpack is 3 times slower in nix-shell than in docker :)
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<fendor> hello, when using python3.6, how can i install packages, e.g. how can i import modules that have been installed via nix?
<hyper_ch> orivej: will do so
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<dkibi> oh that seems much more complicated then I thought. When using the repository version the user is expected to run a command which downloadds the dependencies and runs them. I'll see if I can do what I want to do with by using the release version instead of playing arround with nix too much
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32646: cutemaze: init at 1.2.1 (master...cutemaze) https://git.io/vb2A3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbVZ1
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4c6e4e8 Bart Brouns: qsampler: 0.4.3 -> 0.5.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 58dd146 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32665 from magnetophon/qsampler...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sjau opened pull request #32667: skypeforlinux: fixing sha256 (master...master) https://git.io/vbVnJ
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* hyper_ch points sphalerite to the above notice
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<hyper_ch> orivej: graham likes my PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32667
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3430b0e Eelco Dolstra: aws-sdk-cpp: 1.1.18 -> 1.3.22
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<hyper_ch> why is it rechechking stuff? it just did it and all was fine
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<hyper_ch> orivej: so did debian alter something in their meta data?
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<hyper_ch> well, not debian but skype in their debian package metadata
<orivej> hyper_ch: no, I'll write in the issue
<sphalerite> hyper_ch: just wondering, any particular reason you need Skype?
<hyper_ch> sphalerite: to talk with people
<hyper_ch> orivej: ah ok :9
<sphalerite> Yeah but there's jitsi meet too
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cd7c8e4 Franz Pletz: cudatoolkit: fix build with newer glibc versions...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f429d40 Franz Pletz: xmr-stak: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.0
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<hyper_ch> sphalerite: never heard of
<sphalerite> Which has freedom and requires no account and runs in your browser
<etu> I thought skype works in a browser as well
<etu> the new client is just electron anyways
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<sphalerite> Great, so I can tell you :D meet.jit.si
<etu> haven't used it for years
<hyper_ch> why would I want to run it in the browser?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbVC9
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 4ce310f sjau: skypeforlinux: fixing sha256
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9759b65 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32667 from sjau/master...
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<sphalerite> It's self-hostable as well and stuff
<sphalerite> So if you're only using Skype for lack of an alternative, there's a potential alternative :)
<hyper_ch> I only use skype because I'm used to
<hyper_ch> force of habit ;)
<orivej> jitsi has multiplatform (java) client
<hyper_ch> (isn't java evil?)
<alexteves> write once - run away
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<etu> alexteves++
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<hyper_ch> my first PR got merged
<sphalerite> Or at least it's definitely not their focus
<sphalerite> orivej: they're moving away from that though AFAIK in favour of the web-based one
<sphalerite> Yaaaay congrats
<orivej> seems so
<dkibi> there is also appear.in which is a commercial product very simmilar to meet.jit.si and unfortunately works better occationally
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 7 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbVWi
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 a47baa6 James Earl Douglas: jenkins: 2.93 -> 2.94...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 30f2763 Franz Pletz: jenkins: 2.94 -> 2.95 (security)...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 8a2f4e1 Franz Pletz: nixos/tests/jenkins: check if jenkins is available...
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<sphalerite> I used jitsi communicator a couple years ago, but it's crap compared to jitsi meet UI-wise
<hyper_ch> I only know jiujitsu
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<sphalerite> (Also fulfils slightly different function, being primarily an xmpp client)
<sphalerite> I think jitsi meet uses xmpp too, but you never see JIDs or anything and it uses SASL ANONYKOUS auth and stuff
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<pie_> any idea how to fix "z3_solver-4.5.1.0.post2-py3-none-manylinux1_x86_64.whl is not a supported wheel on this platform." from pypi2nix?
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<pie_> pypi2nix -v -V 3.6 -e pySMT -e z3-solver -E z3
<pie_> nix-shell requirements.nix -A interpreter
<sphalerite> There's also spreed which is free software, and the spreedbox which is a little computer that has a spreed server installed on it for convenience, but last I checked it wasn't as pretty as jitsi meet :p
<sphalerite> Nor as actively developed I think
<fendor> i have problems with zlib in haskell developement, how can i resolve that problem
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<catern> hey #nixos
<catern> if I am writing a C library that also has Python bindings, I see three intial approaches:
<catern> 1. build them both with autotools (somehow?)
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<catern> 2. build them both with setuptools
<catern> 3. put them in separate repositories and use autotools for the C library and setuptools for Python
<catern> which do you think is best?
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<catern> I'm not super enthused about the separate repositories approach, I wonder if maybe I could just put them in the same repository and have multiple different derivations build from that repository? yes that seems really sensible
<catern> does that sound good?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #32669: coursier: fix shebang (master...coursier) https://git.io/vbVRU
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<orivej> catern: yes
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<NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 5d5b931 Eelco Dolstra: Fix build against current aws-sdk-cpp
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<catern> I wonder what is the most idiomatic way to structure this? I have a C library with Python bindings, I guess I should put the Python bindings and setup.py in a "python" subdirectory?
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<catern> Or should I put the setup.py at the top-level?
<catern> Should I hack autotools to invoke setup.py?
<teozkr> hey, is anyone using networking.macvlans?
<teozkr> I'm trying to set it up with a static IP/MAC address, but can't find any obvious place to put it
<teozkr> I tried using networking.interfaces, but that doesn't seem to do anything
<dkibi> symphorien: So I downloaded the release tarball, extracted it somewhare and changed the src to this path and nothing else now I get the error "chmod: cannot access 'Isabelle2017': No such file or directory". The derivation sets a sourceRoot and a dirname to "Isabelle2017" (I doublechecked that the path are correct)
<orivej> catern: if the python bindings have to be rebuilt after C library changes, you'd prefer for this to happen automatically, but if they don't need to be rebuilt (e.g. they are ctypes bindings), this might not be very useful
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<catern> orivej: well, if they are ctypes bindings, the build process will be nearly a no-op anyway, so I think I should probably do it anyway :)
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<catern> oops s/:)/?/
<catern> I like to set up structure and useful infrastructure so things just work
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<orivej> well, you could make "make check" of the C library to run tests of the Python library
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<catern> ah, yes, that too! hmm I wonder if this is already provided somewhere...
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<catern> argh
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<catern> okay maybe I should do it in pure autotools?
<catern> oh but then the issue is, in Nix, building the two derivations (the C library and python library) separately
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVaM
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 98d1da9 Peter Hoeg: togglesg-download: 2016-05-31 -> 2017-12-07
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jonafato opened pull request #32671: keepassxc: 2.2.2 -> 2.2.4 (master...keepassxc-2.2.4) https://git.io/vbVwv
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<magnetophon> I'm building ardour as part of a distro upgrade, and get https://hastebin.com/uronupeqan.coffeescript -> libpng16.so.16: undefined reference to `inflateValidate@ZLIB_1.2.9
<magnetophon> ideas?
* tilpner has never seen hastebin guess the filetype correctly
<tilpner> What channel are you building against?
<magnetophon> latest unstable
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<andromeda-galaxy> does anyone do chromium development with nix/nixos (from source control, not releases)? If so, any tips on how to get depot/the sources "installed" in a nice nix-compliant way (ideally usable with nix-shell, not in the global user environment)?
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<tilpner> das-g[m] - nix-shell ... -A foo
<tilpner> Actually... no
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<tilpner> But "ps: with ps; [ ps.ipython ps.tablib ]" is kind of redundant
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<tilpner> Either "ps: [ ps.ipython ps.tablib ]" or "ps: with ps; [ ipython tablib ]"
<das-g[m]> ah, right
<srhb> -I nixpkgs=path/to/nixpkgs
<srhb> I don't think -p takes any path arguments
<srhb> ?
<srhb> das-g[m]: ^ That was for you.
<das-g[m]> Yeah, I figured
<tilpner> It should. The examples even list "nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A pan"
<srhb> Yes, it's fine with -A
<tilpner> And that's how I've been using it
<srhb> It's not fine with -p
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<das-g[m]> can I replace `-p` with `-A`?
<srhb> It does something different.
<srhb> -p gives you a shell environment with the built package available
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<srhb> In the case of withPackages they might be sort of the same, but usually -A will provide you with the shell of the *build* environment.
<tilpner> Ah, possible. I use it differently with -p
<das-g[m]> build vs. built?
<srhb> das-g[m]: Correct.
<srhb> das-g[m]: ie. with nix-shell -A you can step through the build process
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<srhb> with -p you get the result.
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<srhb> So, nix-shell -I nixpkgs=path/to/your/modified/nixpkgs -p (python.withPackages(ps: with ps; [ ipython taglib ])' should do what you want.
<magnetophon> tilpner: any ideas?
<das-g[m]> let me try taht
<clever> srhb: missing a '
<srhb> clever: Thanks!
<srhb> nix-shell -I nixpkgs=path/to/your/modified/nixpkgs -p '(python.withPackages (ps: with ps; [ ipython taglib ])'
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #32202: pythonPackages.quandl: 3.0.0 -> 3.2.1 (master...python-quandl) https://git.io/vbLG2
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<tilpner> magnetophon - No, still building
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<srhb> das-g[m]: Sorry, I also missed a closing )
<symphorien> dkibi: could you paste the diff ?
<das-g[m]> got it now
<tilpner> das-g[m] - FYI, the IRC bridge just sends us "das-g[m] sent a long message: <filename> <url>", more people might see your questions if you write shorted messages
<srhb> das-g[m]: Or had a redundant opening one. :-)
<das-g[m]> Can I force the IRC bridge to split up long messages into several ones? As long as that doesn't flood the channel, that'd be The Right Thing To Do(TM)
<das-g[m]> (I don't even know what criteria make a Matrix message a "long message" to the bridge.)
<srhb> das-g[m]: Code snippets like that are usually expected to be pastebinned anyway.
<symphorien> this is an IRC limitation -- around 250 chars I think
<magnetophon> tilpner: thanks!
<srhb> (But I don't know the answer to your question)
<das-g[m]> That's why I use Matrix :-P
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<clever> symphorien: i believe the limit is 256 characters, including the "privmsg #nixos :" prefix and the "\n" suffix
<tilpner> magnetophon - Can reproduce. This is expected, as zlib is listed as a dependency here: https://nightly.ardour.org/list.php#build_deps
<magnetophon> tilpner:so it's a simple matter of adding zlib to the deps in the pkg?
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<tilpner> magnetophon - It requires zlib, yes, it's worth trying
<tilpner> magnetophon - But I'm not familiar with waf, so an additional step may be required
<magnetophon> tilpner: OK, will do. thanks!
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<das-g[m]> Alright. Got it working with `nix-shell -I nixpkgs=~/dev/nixos/nixpkgs/ -p 'python36.withPackages(ps: with ps; [ ipython tablib xlrd xlwt pyyaml openpyxl odfpy])' --run ipython`
<das-g[m]> thank srhb and tilpner
<das-g[m]> *thanks
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbViL
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ffc0bfa David Kleuker: nixos/samba: increase LimitNOFILE to recommended value (#32085)...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #32038: nginxModules.rtmp: v1.1.11 -> v1.2.0 & add support for gcc-7 (master...nginx-rtmp-gcc7) https://git.io/vFjJD
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<srhb> das-g[m]: Great! :)
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<johnw> shlevy: ping
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<ashkitten> hi, i'm getting a collision between two packages when i run nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
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<sphalerite> das-g: yeah if the message is too long *or* if it contains newlines it won't get relayed to IRC nicely
<sphalerite> There's an issue filed for it though, to have at least a preview of the message included
<das-g[m]> Cool. Would also be nice if Matrix clients like Riot would give you some warning when entering such a message in a room that is bridged to IRC.
<sphalerite> I think it was our favourite grahamc whose comments led to the issue being filed :)
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<sphalerite> (Which would be particularly useful for highlights)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #32672: thefuck: 3.18 -> 3.25 (master...thefuck) https://git.io/vbV1D
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] etu opened pull request #32673: discord: 0.0.2 -> 0.0.3 (master...discord003) https://git.io/vbV1F
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] etu closed pull request #32673: discord: 0.0.2 -> 0.0.3 (master...discord003) https://git.io/vbV1F
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<ashkitten> does nobody know how to fix my issue?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbVMC
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 768e88e Cray Elliott: discord: 0.0.2 -> 0.0.3
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #32671: keepassxc: 2.2.2 -> 2.2.4 (master...keepassxc-2.2.4) https://git.io/vbVwv
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<srhb> ashkitten: Remove one of the colliding python packages from the env?
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<ashkitten> srhb: they're both required by mopidy
<srhb> ashkitten: Oh, so this is just from enabling mopidy? Which version of NixOS?
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<ashkitten> 17.09
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<avn> btw, I gave little patch on gstreamer, becaue mopidy won't works (at least on master two weeks ago (lol))
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E closed pull request #32607: discord: 0.0.2 -> 0.0.3 (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbz8h
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<srhb> ashkitten: I can't reproduce your error on unstable at least, but just enabling it it certainly not enough to make it start. :-P
<srhb> Perhaps we need a backport of something.
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<ashkitten> hmm
<johnw> what is the best way to prefer emacs melpaUnstable over Stable, rather than the converse?
<Isorkin_> Help. Latest version not working zfs boot. how to find error? Revision b3aef82dc06 367e5f726f0 d1635a58bfb - worked, revision aaf6b2b601b 4017f0f7528 fcec492c622 - not work.
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<johnw> I'm trying this: emacsPackageOverrides = super: super.melpaPackages // {};
<johnw> (with local overrides in {}, of course)
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<srk> garbas: any idea why pypi2nix won't pick up dependencies for ckan https://github.com/ckan/ckan ? Trying to add this to nixpkgs-python but it's not that straightforward
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbV9i
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6ac3251 Bart Brouns: pqiv: 2.10.1 -> 2.10.2
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 187b18f Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32632 from magnetophon/pqiv...
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<srhb> Isorkin_: Can you provide any debugging information? What's your configuration? What's the error?
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f5b8aa Orivej Desh: thefuck: 3.18 -> 3.25...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 08c5578 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #32672 from orivej/thefuck...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 137bf46 Orivej Desh: nixUnstable: 1.12pre5788_e3013543 -> 1.12pre5810_5d5b931f...
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<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f984969 Orivej Desh: coursier: fix shebang...
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 165dbac Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32669 from orivej/coursier...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32669: coursier: fix shebang (master...coursier) https://git.io/vbVRU
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<srhb> Isorkin_: Are you using the default kernel?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #32674: texlive: fix use of xdvi: add hashes and don't orphan it (master...fix/xdvi-hash) https://git.io/vbV5e
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<Isorkin_> srhb: default kernel and hardened not work
<srhb> Isorkin_: How about latest? I think that's what the test runs, though that looks broken for different reasons.
<Isorkin_> latest kernel not tested
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<magnetophon> tilpner: adding zlib to the packg didn't change anything. any other ideas?
<garbas> srk: let me check
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<srk> garbas: like running pypi2nix with only ckan in requirements packages only ckan itself but no deps. if I use requriements from ckan I get all the deps but not ckan :D
<garbas> srk: oh i see.. their setup.py doesn't define any of the install_requires :)
<srk> aha
<garbas> but at least they provide requirements.txt
<srk> guess I can fix that, although I'm afraid to hack on that monstrosity
<srk> can you tell it to just look for requirements.txt from setup?
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<garbas> srk: you can do -> pypi2nix -r requirements.txt
<srk> right, but I need to take requirements from their repo
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<garbas> oh but you want to add it to the nixpkgs-python repository
<srk> not that nice as with the rest of the packages from nixpkgs-python
<srk> y
<srk> at first I thought I'll add it to nixpkgs but I won't until they get rid of pylons
<garbas> i think you can add this line to requirements.txt in nixpkgs-python
<garbas> "-r https://..../requirements.txt"
<srk> cool
<srk> will try
<garbas> srk: open a pr even if it is not working and i can help you fix it
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<srk> yeah, I'm pretty close except patched pypi2nix due to unittest2
<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ca5ee8634e9 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
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<srk> like this python guy asking for type check is quite amusing
<garbas> :)
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<domenkozar> wrote https://github.com/domenkozar/elm2nix.git today, let me know if you have an Elm project and how it goes
<srk> garbas: also I've had to run this hack while running pypi2nix while true; do chmod +r /run/user/1000/pypi2nix/ef6612eb5e04daf9f80978ae3feae58c/wheelhouse/decorator-4.0.6.dist-info/*; done
<srk> garbas: cool, now I've added only requirements.txt and no dev-requirements and it succeeded the first time
<garbas> yaaay! :)
<garbas> domenkozar: woot!
<srk> funny that testing harness causes so much trouble
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<nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-17.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/427756cca1b (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-17.09-small)
<domenkozar> garbas: let me know if it works
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<garbas> domenkozar: i'm not working that much with elm anymore. and free time is almost non existent
<domenkozar> :D
<domenkozar> garbas: there's always another year
<garbas> :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #32677: libredirect: add description (master...libredirect) https://git.io/vbVbK
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<garbas> domenkozar: or another company :)
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #32677: libredirect: add description (master...libredirect) https://git.io/vbVbK
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<the-kenny> Is there a gui for bluez like pavucontrol for pulseaudio? I'm sick of their bad readline-like implementation
<magnap> the-kenny: try blueman, maybe?
<magnap> It's a little more than "just" being a gui for bluez, but that just means it'll do what you want and more ;)
<the-kenny> magnap: hmm yeah that looks okay-ish (I managed to connect to my pesky bluetooth headset after just three tries!)
<toogley> how is an optional dependency supposed to work for the enduser? how can they enable or disable one? do they have to override the pkg to change the default?
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<the-kenny> Needs the blueman-applet running though, which I find a bit annoying
<srhb> toogley: Usually yes.
<srhb> toogley: At least, that's the most direct and visible way.
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<srhb> toogley: Some (usually older) packages use settings in config.nix, but that's often spooky-action-at-a-distance
<magnap> the-kenny: oh, completely forgot that, sorry. I keep trayer running in a far-off workspace to deal with things like that (e.g. nm-applet)
<toogley> srhb: ah, thanks
<srhb> toogley: The downside is that there's usually no documentation for these options, as there's no way currently (as far as I know) to autogenerate them from package arguments.
<srhb> toogley: So "grep the sources" is a mantra.
<toogley> srhb: hm.. okay
<toogley> srhb: well, nixos is still very new, so i don't think this is problematic^^
<the-kenny> magnap: I uess it's fine, I just need to start it on login :)
<srhb> toogley: nixos options are fine. nixpkgs options not so much :)
<toogley> srhb: ah :D
<srhb> toogley: (nixos options concern modules, "services")
<Isorkin> srhb: latest kernel tested - not worked
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<srhb> Isorkin: On currentl nixos-unstable? I'll try a reboot here then.
<Isorkin> yes, nixos-unstable
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<srhb> Isorkin: OK, be right back
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<marc__> I boot a minimal nixos LiveCD and need help to connect WPA2 network wifi
<srhb> marc__: Does nmtui work?
<srhb> Isorkin: Works fine here
<srhb> Isorkin: afe9649210, current nixos-unstable
<marc__> nmgui?
<srhb> marc__: nmtui
<marc__> 17.09
<srhb> Oh, that doesn't have nmtui? Sadface.
<marc__> the graphical LiveCD with plasma won´t not work on my T60
<marc__> ip a
<marc__> i found wls3 networkcard
<srk> doing wpa manually is PITA, can't you switch your wifi to open one for a moment?
<srk> or just WEP :D
<marc__> hmm
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<marc__> ifconfig wls3 up
<srk> for WPA you need to configura wpa_supplicant
<srk> *e
<marc__> iwlist wls3 scan
<marc__> works for me;)
<srk> that's just a scan
<srk> :)
<srhb> man 5 wpa_supplicant.conf
<srhb> Then write /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf according to that specification
<srhb> then systemctl start wpa_supplicant
<srhb> iirc
<marc__> i cant write anything
<marc__> usbstick to ram option
<srhb> ... No wifi and no keyboard? :P
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<marc__> hmm rebooting and let the usb stick on device?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #32678: pqiv: add (optional) support for various backends (master...feature/pqiv-backends) https://git.io/vbVjB
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<Isorkin> srhb: strange
<marc__> i try it;)
<srhb> No idea, I've never had a not-writable /etc in the live environment. Didn't know it was a thing.
<srhb> I thought it was all ramfs stuff
<srhb> Isorkin: Perhaps some other configuration you have is causing troubles?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #32611: gitless: init at 0.8.5 (master...gitless) https://git.io/vbzap
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<catern> interested in opinions on https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1734
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<toogley> can somebody tell me why this http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/oMt8siwK?nix fails with "unable to find lua", although i think i concated the lua dependency correctly with buildInputs list?
<toogley> using ++ stdev.lib.optional instead of ++ lua also doesn't change anything
<toogley> although the previous line (optional sendmail) works
<toogley> i.e. sendmail is found
<Isorkin> srhb: disbale all config - not work
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<marc__> wpa_supplicant loaded failed on minimal live CD :(
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<marc__> i wrote in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf my settings für WPA2 network
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<toogley> have found the error. forgot to tell autosetup where lua is
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] evhan opened pull request #32679: chicken: 4.11.0 -> 4.13.0 (master...chicken) https://git.io/vbwUO
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vbgl opened pull request #32680: ocamlPackages.topkg: refactoring (master...ocaml-topkg-cleanup) https://git.io/vbwIY
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<sphalerite> srk: doing WPA supplicant manually isn't hard. wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase | wpa_supplicant -iinterface -c/dev/stdin
<sphalerite> srhb too ^ you don't have to put the config in /etc
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<srk> sphalerite: I see :)
<sphalerite> marc__: if you do what I wrote above does that work?
<infinisil> There's also https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#wireless.networks
<sphalerite> (Substitute ssid and passphrase as appropriate)
<sphalerite> Yeah that's the nicest option if you authenticate to the network with shared secrets
<infinisil> And there's https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#supplicant.%3Cname%3E.configfile
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<sphalerite> The piping option is mainly just convenient for live systems
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<Lisanna> I think I've found a bug in buildEnv: if there's a common path between two packages that isn't in pathsToLink, it will still report it as a collision.
<Lisanna> or are there some very good reasons for this behavior?
<sphalerite> Lisanna: oooh, fickle
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<sphalerite> I don't see any
<Lisanna> okay
<Lisanna> buildenv/builder.pl calls isInPathsToLink after it checks for collisions
<Lisanna> so there's the cause
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<Lisanna> I've got two different derivations that happen to be built from the same src, and all of my derivations package up their src in <drv>/src, so it counts that as a collision :)
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<sphalerite> Arguably it could also check if they're identical and not complain if they are
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] thanegill opened pull request #32681: python.pkgs.gssapi from 1.1.4 -> 1.2.0 (master...python.pkgs.gssapi) https://git.io/vbwtr
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<Lisanna> well, in my case, they're not quite identical, they're different versions of the same source
<Lisanna> so some files will be different
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<Lisanna> so I'll jsut exclude /src from the buildEnv, since I don't want that in the env anyways (it's just so gdb can find the source files when you debug the binaries)
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<Lisanna> but for now I'll also have to tell it to not fail if there's a collision
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] MP2E pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbwmn
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 ff49c5f Cray Elliott: discord: 0.0.2 -> 0.0.3...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #32668: retdec: init at 3.0(.0) (master...feature/retdec) https://git.io/vbVWH
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej opened pull request #32684: skypeforlinux: caution against updates to unstable versions (master...skypeforlinux) https://git.io/vbwOU
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<clever> Lisanna: buildEnv has also been rewitten in c, in nix
<clever> Lisanna: there are 2 copies of buildEnv and they have begun to diverge some
<Lisanna> Oh, is that in nixUnstable?
<clever> its always been in nix
<clever> nix-env and nix-channel need a buildEnv to manage the nixpkgs download
<Lisanna> oh right
<clever> it was perl, but nixUnstable de-perl'd nix
<Lisanna> okay
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<Lisanna> so what will happen to the perl buildEnv / the things that use it?
<clever> ive wanted to switch it to the c one, which still has the same api
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbw3C
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a3b84e0 Thane Gill: python.pkgs.gssapi: 1.1.4 -> 1.2.0, (#32681)...
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<gchristensen> hi armijn
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<evangeline> hi, does anybody know when ksnapshot was removed from nixpkgs, I can't seem to find it?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] eqyiel opened pull request #32685: awsebcli: 3.12.0 -> 3.12.1 (master...awsebcli-3.12.1) https://git.io/vbwZK
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<orivej> evangeline: was it ever present?
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbwcB
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6c12e66 Jörg Thalheim: python.pkgs.blessed: fix tests
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] bobvanderlinden opened pull request #32686: nodejs: 9.2.0 -> 9.3.0, libuv: 1.16.1 -> 1.18.0 (master...nodejs_9_3_0) https://git.io/vbwCs
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vbwli
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 1e60ccd Jan Tojnar: meson: 0.43.0 → 0.44.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging 774559a Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32660 from jtojnar/meson...
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<pbogdan> is it just me or is steam suddenly not working on 17.09? getting a cli error about a few missing 32 bit libs and then a pop up about steamui.so failing to load
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<kini> so on gentoo you can put "-march=native" in your system-wide CFLAGS variable in /etc/portage/make.conf (iirc); is there something similar you can do for nix?
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<kini> or at least, say, "-march=core-avx2" or something like that
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<Ralith> kini: is this a theoretical or practical question?
<Ralith> because actually doing that is a rather poor use of resources
<kini> theoretical
<Ralith> I expect you could accomplish that by mucking about with stdenv a little, though I don't think there's a super convenient configuration flag or anything currently
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbw44
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 04e837e Bart Brouns: liblscp: 0.5.8 -> 0.6.0
<NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f4dcb88 Jörg Thalheim: Merge pull request #32664 from magnetophon/liblscp...
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<NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Mic92 closed pull request #32664: liblscp: 0.5.8 -> 0.6.0 (master...liblscp) https://git.io/vbVqM
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<kini> hmm, I see
<kini> I guess that makes sense
<slyfox> but it's a good exercise to try :)
<kini> oh hey slyfox
<slyfox> hia :)
<kini> you probably don't remember me but I made a few PRs to gentoo-haskell overlay a few years ago, haha
<kini> nice to see that there are some gentoo people in the nix community too
<slyfox> i do :)
<evangeline> orivej: it was, I had it previously installed, but now is gone after the upgrade
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<orivej> evangeline: do you need it given that KDE has replaced it with spectacle?
<Ralith> kini: er, that was poorly phrased; I am *certain* you could accomplish that by mucking about with stdenv a little, though I'm not certain exactly how trivial it would be
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<kini> yeah, I was more wondering if that kind of stuff was hooked into "platforms" in any meaningful way, and I guess the answer is no
<kini> just curious really :)
<kini> when I was a linux greenhorn installing gentoo many years ago I thought global -march=native was pretty cool, but I became disillusioned when my computer died one day and I had to try to boot its hard drive on another, older machine... oops... :P
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<kini> orivej: interesting, I haven't seen all this @ templating before
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<Ralith> orivej: or you could inject something into NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE, or introduce your own wrapper via overrideCC
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<orivej> yes, this would be practical for individual packages, but kini was talking system wide
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<evangeline> orivej: didn't know about spectacle, I'll use this, hopefully it will be a good replacement, shutter is definitely not, thanks
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<orivej> evangeline: I believe ksnapshot disappeared very long ago; if you had it recently, you may find it by doing `ls /nix/store/*/bin/ksnapshot`
<Ralith> orivej: all of the above could be applied system-wide
<evangeline> orivej: yup, I still have it...
<magnetophon> anyone running compton on unstable? After an upgrade, the service won't start here, but compton itself runs
<magnetophon> systemctl --user start compton.service Failed to start compton.service: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1
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