#nixos on 2017-12-20

00:01 <wak-work> copumpkin: am i still in #nix-darwin?

00:01 <copumpkin> wak-work: yup :)

00:02 <copumpkin> dammit now a webchatter joined too

00:02 <copumpkin> is that you?

00:02 <wak-work> the random letters is

00:02 <copumpkin> ok

00:03 <copumpkin> thanks!

00:03 <wak-work> that's weird

00:03 <wak-work> it wasn't in my list of channels

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00:03 <wak-work> but the matrix irc bot must have desyncd some how

00:03 <copumpkin> not even the historical ones?

00:03 <copumpkin> ah

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00:03 <wak-work> nope

00:07 <rnhmjoj[m]> I found a workaround: alias mosh-server "systemd-run --user --scope mosh-server"

00:07 <ariutta> dhess: I updated the package to set the paths for cmake: https://github.com/ariutta/nixpkgs/blob/nixpkgs-unstable/pkgs/applications/misc/keepassx/community.nix

00:08 <samueldr> rnhmjoj[m]: using "alias" works?

00:08 <ariutta> dhess: any suggestions on why I need to trick cmake into thinking I'm running 'AppleClang 9.0.0.9000039' instead of 'Clang 4.0.1'?

00:10 <rnhmjoj[m]> samueldr: yes, basically mosh connects via ssh, runs mosh-server using the user shell and disconnects.

00:10 <samueldr> ugh, running in the shell, that spooks me

00:10 <samueldr> I'll add that to the nixos wiki

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00:13 <rnhmjoj[m]> samueldr: thank you

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00:18 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32857: nix-info: apply SC1117 suggested fix (master...nix-info) https://git.io/vb1I4

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00:22 <dhess> ariutta: Sorry, nothing that comes to mind

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00:27 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko closed pull request #32868: time.timeZone: default to GMT (master...yegortimoshenko-patch-1) https://git.io/vb11X

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00:27 <ariutta> dhess: anyway, it now works, at least on my machine. Do you think it's ready for me to make a pull request?

00:29 <ariutta> dhess: does it make sense to only add clang to the build inputs for darwin, like this? buildInputs = [ ... ] ++ stdenv.lib.optionals stdenv.isDarwin [ clang ];

00:30 <mhsjlw[m]> Ok, so I've seen this issue somewhere else (can't remember where). Anyway, `nix-shell` is pretty broken and I'm trying to fix an issue inside of nixops right now and this is just pissing me off: `nix-shell`'s arrow keys don't work, the characters aren't escaped properly, and I can't use my tab key to autocomplete. Here's an exact copy-paste of the text: `\[\][nix-shell:~/Documents/nixops]$\[\]`

00:30 <mhsjlw[m]> I'm sure someone is familiar, if they could point me to the issue ID I'd be thankful! :D

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00:32 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: how are you indenting the derivation? cat /nix/store/qbi9xkjbf5qxrvq3xjdx3nzwx6mq1y7j-ghc-8.0.2-with-packages.drv | indent only seems to indent it partially

00:32 <samueldr> I have that when I nix-shell inside a nix-shell

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00:34 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: but he path of the resulting drv file seems to be the same https://paste.gnome.org/po4hbd5ql

00:34 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: pp-aterm

00:34 <puffnfresh> wow it's the same??

00:34 <puffnfresh> this is weiiird

00:35 <contrapumpkin> pp-aterm is a thing of the past!

00:35 <contrapumpkin> nix 1.12 has its own pretty printer now :)

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00:36 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yrashk opened pull request #32873: tarsnap service: correct doc for printStats (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vb1d9

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00:37 <Ankhers> gchristensen: Can anyone get your borg bot to build something from a PR or is it only certain people?

00:37 <dhess> ariutta: yeah I think that's the standard practice

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00:38 <puffnfresh> contrapumpkin: didn't know that, awesome!!

00:38 <samueldr> Ankhers: I believe that's the list: https://github.com/grahamc/ofborg/blob/7411524ed313845f9a61683951ff18006c0de8fd/php/src/ACL.php#L13

00:38 <ariutta> dhess: thanks for your help!

00:39 <dhess> ariutta: np, you did all the work :)

00:39 <contrapumpkin> puffnfresh: well, you can print a .drv as json

00:39 <contrapumpkin> and then use json tooling on it

00:40 <Ankhers> samueldr: Thanks!

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00:47 <jtojnar> samueldr: weird, I am not on that list yet I can use the build command

00:47 <samueldr> then I'm probably wrong!

00:49 <jtojnar> seems to be loaded from a config https://github.com/grahamc/ofborg/blob/7411524ed313845f9a61683951ff18006c0de8fd/ofborg/src/config.rs#L64

00:49 <samueldr> probably configured, that must have been dead code

00:49 <samueldr> https://github.com/grahamc/ofborg/blob/released/ofborg/src/acl.rs

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00:54 <yegortimoshenko> Ankhers: do you like Erlang (w/o Elixir)?

00:54 <Ankhers> yegortimoshenko: I work with Elixir. Most of the time, I would prefer to be writing Erlang.

00:55 <Ankhers> (I have no professional experience with Erlang though).

00:55 <yegortimoshenko> i also prefer Erlang

00:57 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: so the only difference must be at runtime

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00:58 <gchristensen> Ankhers, samueldr that list is very out of date, because the checking isn't in PHP anymore. but there is an issue where you can request access :) I'm going to do a batch tonight

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00:58 <samueldr> (yeah, found the new code a bit after)

00:58 <gchristensen> :)

00:58 <gchristensen> todo: delete the dead code

00:58 <samueldr> :)

00:59 <samueldr> I'm looking into the issue I'm having with nix and debian, but my first re-build (not using the reproduce script) doesn't show the same issue, now trying the reproduce script...

00:59 <Ankhers> Gotcha. I don't really need access. I just tried triggering a build on a PR and was wondering why there was no output from the bot. I wasn't sure if it was a bug, or maybe it doesn't output anything on successful builds or something.

00:59 <samueldr> how likely is it that the .deb built from hydra is... broken?

01:00 <gchristensen> samueldr: somewhat-to-very? we don't link to them anymore

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01:00 <samueldr> I mean, the same code, same nixpkgs, but a "wrong" build

01:01 <samueldr> (it's moments like these I hate having only 15mbps)

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01:04 <dhess> Anyone here running Hydra with non-root remote build users?

01:05 <dhess> i.e., where sshUser != "root" in nix.buildMachines

01:05 <fpletz> dhess: the build user has to be in nix.trustedUsers on the build machine

01:05 <dhess> I've been running remote builds without Hydra using a dedicated, unprivileged "nix" user on my buildMachines and it has been working fine. But with Hydra, it seems to close the SSH connection as soon as it's successful

01:05 <dhess> fpletz: oh ok maybe that's it

01:07 <mhsjlw[m]> teh: hey, I want to fix your DigitalOcean pull request

01:07 <gchristensen> dhess: watch `sudo journalctl -f` on the remote builder for some potentially helpful logs

01:08 <dhess> gchristensen: ok, what I'm getting on the master is this: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/46j5vdc3x9ri2gxrd59hy30yrpp542nj-libfastcgi-v1.0-7-g19533f6pre19533f67da4c74b34679859bb38b2623eb9bf79f.drv’ on ‘nix@localhost’: unexpected end-of-file

01:08 <dhess> anyway let me try to deploy this new config with "nix" in trustedUsers

01:08 <dhess> of course I've now broken my regular remote builders :\

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01:09 <dhess> ohhh I think it's working

01:09 <ariutta> Is it preferred to make a pull request from a patch branch onto the master branch of NixOS/nixpkgs? Or can I make a pull request to the nixpkgs-unstable branch?

01:10 <dhess> wahoo! Thanks fpletz!

01:11 <dhess> of course now I just need to fix my broken remotes :)

01:11 <fpletz> background: hydra will basically do nix-copy-closure to put arbitrary store paths into the nix store

01:11 <fpletz> that should only be done by trusted users :)

01:11 <pkill9> there's a bunch of duplicate youtbe-dl packages in nixpkgs

01:11 <pkill9> https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html#youtube-dl

01:12 <pkill9> 'youtubeDL' 'youtube-dl'

01:12 <dhess> fpletz: ok. What's interesting is that remote building via NixOps did not require that the user mentioned in sshUser was in trustedUsers

01:12 <fpletz> ariutta: yeah, please do a PR on the master branch of NixOS/nixpkgs, the NixOS/nixpkgs-channels repository is automatically updated and read-only

01:13 <fpletz> dhess: remote build via nixops? how is that possible? %)

01:13 <fpletz> if nix files are transferrend to other machine and evaluated to drv files there, it is no problem

01:13 <fpletz> but to put arbitrary drv files into the nix store is prohibited by regular users

01:14 <dhess> fpletz: sorry, I meant that remote builds kicked off by 'nixops deploy' , using nix.distributedBuilds = true and nix.buildMachines defined the same way, worked fine on remote hosts but did not require that this unprivileged "nix" user was defined in trustedUsers.

01:14 <fpletz> s/by/for/

01:14 <fpletz> dhess: hmm

01:16 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: any ideas?

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01:16 <fpletz> dhess: maybe I mixed something up and its actually related to subsitutes

01:17 <fpletz> so if the dependencies are fetched from a binary cache or nix-copy-closure'ed to the build machine

01:18 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: what does "ghc-pkg field text id" give you?

01:18 <bgamari> How does one deal with impure dependencies?

01:19 <bgamari> e.g. I have some binaries that aren't produced by nix that I use to built some artifacts

01:19 <bgamari> Ideally I would like nix to track their hashes and rebuild things when they change

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01:19 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #32874: doc: system.environmentPackages -> environment.systemPackages (master...20171220.011402/system.environmentPackages) https://git.io/vb1A3

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01:19 <bgamari> should I define derivations for them and depend on them explicitly?

01:20 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: $ nix-shell --pure -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/1d7f90cba209511ff156914e9c3ee4d638aeeabd.tar.gz -p 'ghc.withPackages (p: with p; [ text turtle ])' --command "ghc-pkg field text id"

01:20 <jtojnar> id: text-1.2.2.2-KC7dWoG09dA1F6jKj5GSqh

01:20 <bgamari> should I just refer to their paths directly in the builders that need them?

01:20 <jtojnar> id: text-1.2.2.2-1cn50juu89QSL9QkUVcRY

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01:20 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: wow you have 2??

01:20 <puffnfresh> I only have that second one

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01:20 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vb1Ac

01:20 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master ec10cd5 Yegor Timoshenko: pup: rename attr, go-pup -> pup

01:20 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 102f8a8 Yegor Timoshenko: pup: clean up, 20160425-e76307d -> 0.4.0

01:20 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c8adf82 Yegor Timoshenko: pup: add meta

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01:21 <samueldr> hmmm, the reproduced locally .deb build works, while the hydra built .deb doesn't

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01:21 <dhess> fpletz: well putting user "nix" in trustedUsers on the build hosts did the trick

01:21 <dhess> in any case

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01:23 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lopsided98 opened pull request #32875: werkzeug: 0.12.2 -> 0.13 (master...werkzeug-update) https://git.io/vb1Ag

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01:28 <samueldr> argh, now I'm even more confused

01:28 <clever> dhess: trusted users are allowed to import unsigned things, which is a common when its being used as a build slave

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01:29 <samueldr> my reproduced locally build works, but not the hydra build, diffing (through meld) shows only man pages are different

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01:30 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixpkgs-17.09-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/fded1805d3e (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-17.09-darwin)

01:30 <clever> samueldr: do you have sandboxing enabled on the local machine?

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01:30 <samueldr> let me double-verify, but it should

01:31 <samueldr> my shared config has it active

01:31 <samueldr> nix.useSandbox = true;

01:32 <clever> and /etc/nix/nix.conf agrees?

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01:32 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: "ghc-pkg describe text-1.2.2.2-KC7dWoG09dA1F6jKj5GSqh"

01:32 <samueldr> yes

01:32 <samueldr> it's my work computer, so no qemu-user shenanigans

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01:33 <clever> id need more context to know whats going on

01:33 <samueldr> I'll write a recap, re-testing on another VM

01:33 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: https://paste.gnome.org/pi6hmjbqd

01:34 <puffnfresh> jtojnar: oh that's coming from your ~/.ghc

01:34 <puffnfresh> you have it installed via Cabal

01:34 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: you are right

01:34 <jtojnar> removing the directory fixes it

01:34 <puffnfresh> I've got nothing installed via Cabal

01:35 <puffnfresh> there we go <3

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01:35 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32871: s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com -> s3.amazonaws.com (master...s3-us-west-2) https://git.io/vb1Sq

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01:40 <jtojnar> puffnfresh: is there a way to prevent local cabal from bleeding into nix-shell?

01:40 <clever> jtojnar: nix-shell --pure

01:41 <clever> or dont install cabal

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01:42 <samueldr> clever: if it tickles your fancy https://gist.github.com/samueldr/bf5aa82272588f038e0a5d0314843f47

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01:44 <clever> samueldr: yeah, that does sound strange

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01:44 <samueldr> and it's been reproducible on two different VMs, I mean, using the two .deb

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01:44 <samueldr> not the failing build

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01:45 <puffnfresh> clever: I don't think --pure works

01:45 <puffnfresh> for that, cause it will still read ~/.ghc/

01:45 <clever> ah

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01:46 <clever> yeah, that would still cause issues

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01:48 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] ariutta opened pull request #32879: Add macOS support for KeePassXC package (master...keepassxc-macos) https://git.io/vb1ps

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01:50 <samueldr> so, uh, anything I should do?

01:50 <samueldr> I mean, is it something that should be reported?

01:51 <samueldr> is it possible to ask hydra pretty-please-rebuild-it? and hope whatever happened doesn't, or does?

01:53 <ariutta> dhess: first pull request :) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32879

01:58 <bgamari> Does anyone have an explanation for why builtins.typeOf (builtins.toPath "/") == "string"?

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02:05 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32880: snappy: build lib/libsnappy.so (master...patch-82) https://git.io/vb1hG

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02:08 <gchristensen> yegortimoshenko: does the nixos cache work reliably from moscow?

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02:18 <yegortimoshenko> gchristensen: yes!

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02:20 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32874: doc: system.environmentPackages -> environment.systemPackages (master...20171220.011402/system.environmentPackages) https://git.io/vb1A3

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02:20 <gchristensen> yegortimoshenko: and elsewhere in russia? I'm surprised s3 would be blocked but not cloudfront

02:22 <yegortimoshenko> gchristensen: i can't check anywhere else. russian government maintains a domain blacklist, and only one s3 subdomain was blocked (s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com). it has been unblocked since, but seemingly, changes in the blacklist take time to propagate

02:24 <gchristensen> ah I see

02:24 <gchristensen> frustrating :(

02:25 <yegortimoshenko> gchristensen: also, they don't put much thought into blocking something, they just block some resource, and if it isn't immediately deleted, they block the entire domain. it's also rarely systematic.

02:26 <gchristensen> aye

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02:28 <gchristensen> orivej: the aarch64 builder supports building Go now with that hardlink test :)

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03:40 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32833: Vala cleanup (master...vala-cleanup) https://git.io/vbPpu

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03:43 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMJ9

03:43 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master febcb66 Orivej Desh: snappy: build shared library...

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03:45 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32880: snappy: build both static and shared libs (master...patch-82) https://git.io/vb1hG

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03:52 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbMUq

03:52 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 8ad5fc4 Will Dietz: termite: v12 -> v13...

03:52 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 69fa2d6 Jan Tojnar: Merge branch 'termite-v13'

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03:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #32860: termite: v12 -> v13 (master...update/termite-v13) https://git.io/vb1lR

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04:04 <jtojnar> Should I use $TEMPDIR or $(mktemp -d) when a derivation requires HOME for running checkPhase?

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04:17 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32867: themes: propagate gtk-murrine-engine, resolves #16268 (master...20171219.103133/propagate-murrine) https://git.io/vb16b

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04:29 <jtojnar> Is it posslible to collect garbage but only older than let's say 10 days (not all unrooted paths)

04:30 <jtojnar> for example, I have several builds running but suddenly run out of space

04:31 <jtojnar> I need to clean up but I would still like to keep the already built packages and downloaded sources

04:32 <fearlessKim[m]> jtojnar: nix-collect-garbage --delete-older-than 10d ?

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04:33 <jtojnar> fearlessKim[m]: unfortunately that seems to delete even the recently downloaded sources

04:35 <fearlessKim[m]> jtojnar: maybe you can try with --dry-run. I am not sure about the behavior

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04:39 <jtojnar> fearlessKim[m]: that will not help me very much unless I am able to figure out the ctime

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04:45 <jtojnar> also the dry-run is useless, when I add it it only prints https://paste.gnome.org/pvppeftox

04:46 <jtojnar> but without it actually deletes all the files I just built

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05:05 <jtojnar> reported it upstream https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1751

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05:24 <ajmccluskey[m]> Hey, is anyone here able to point me to a simple example of cross compilation? My attempts at cross compiling `hello` after reading the manual and poking around seem to be stalled.

05:25 <ajmccluskey[m]> https://gist.github.com/63a0ea1a75501734f239c23461efc3f1

05:25 <ajmccluskey[m]> That's what I've tried so far

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05:28 <ajmccluskey[m]> `error: undefined variable ‘runCommand’ at /nix/store/mwzjraflb7d0wa4s2aqa2q2hhni1haza-nixos-17.09.2281.b4a0c011e81/nixos/pkgs/build-support/cc-wrapper/default.nix:24:56`

05:31 <ajmccluskey[m]> heh, just tried using `<unstable>` as my nixpkgsFun and it's building

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05:37 <j0> hi has anyone been able to get yubikey to work with chromium?

05:38 <j0> I installed libyubikey but it doesn't work with non-root privileges

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05:55 <Ralith> j0: udev.packages = [ pkgs.libu2f-host ];

05:55 <Ralith> in configuration.nix

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05:55 <Ralith> switch, reinstert the key, and it should Just Work

05:55 <Ralith> reinsert*

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05:56 <Lisanna> ugh... I screwed up my nix.extraOptions, and now I can't fix it, because nixos-rebuild switch is trying to parse the screwed up nix.conf file

05:57 <Lisanna> it's not immediately obvious what to do here

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06:07 <Lisanna> Okay... I copied the config to a new directory, fixed the mistake, and set NIX_CONF_DIR for the nixos-rebuild switch command, and now everything is back to normal :)

06:07 <Lisanna> it just kind of sucks that nixos can modify the stateful data that it also depends on to build... makes it really easy to get yourself "stuck"

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06:12 <Lisanna> and it also means that two subsequent nixos-rebuilds can do different things

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06:12 <Lisanna> with identical configuration.nix

06:13 <andersk> Ideally it seems like nix should at least try to parse its new nix.conf at build time to protect against that footgun.

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06:22 <clever> Lisanna: another trick, cd /etc/nix ; cat nix.conf > nix.conf.new ; rm nix.conf ; mv nix.conf.new nix.conf ; vi nix.conf

06:22 <clever> Lisanna: aka, replace the symlink with a normal file, and edit away

06:22 <clever> nixos will overwrite it with a symlink next time you switch or boot

06:23 <clever> that can be done with almost anything in /etc

06:23 * clever heads to bed

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06:44 <sphalerite> I don't think the rm there is necessary?

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06:45 <j0> hi, so I tried adding the line udev.packages = [ pkgs.libu2f-host ]; to my configuration.nix, but yubikey still doesn't work without root

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06:49 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Izorkin opened pull request #32884: libnftnl: 1.0.7 -> 1.0.8 (master...libnftnl) https://git.io/vbMYw

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06:50 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Izorkin opened pull request #32885: nftables: 0.7 -> 0.8 (master...nftables) https://git.io/vbMYr

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07:42 <Lisanna> clever: oh, I guess that would work too

07:43 <Lisanna> thanks

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07:45 <Lisanna> So, I've got a derivation which builds a bunch of other derivations which are dependencies. But if one of the derivations fails, other derivations unrelated to it don't get cached, they get rebuilt from scratch each time. Is there a way to fix this?

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07:45 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/1bc288591ea (from 21 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable)

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07:53 <Lisanna> oh, this might be fixable with "-k"

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08:00 <hmensch> Has anyone had any luck with the rpi3 audio port on aarch64? Also anyone experiencing intermittent crashes at u-boot's "Starting kernel ..."? i have the latest mainline kernel on dezgegs image and have checked the power adapter as mentioned in a github thread

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08:12 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMZT

08:12 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b693f98 Orivej Desh: keepassxc: support macOS...

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08:14 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32879: Add macOS support for KeePassXC package (master...keepassxc-macos) https://git.io/vb1ps

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08:17 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMZE

08:17 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c9bed89 Peter Simons: sane-backends: enable support for PNG

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08:23 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 38 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbMZd

08:23 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c13330c Peter Simons: LTS Haskell 10.0

08:23 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f1736d1 Peter Simons: hackage2nix: downgrade llvm-hs to avoid bug in cabal-install...

08:23 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f30660 Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...

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08:23 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32854: Switch Haskell package set to LTS-10.x / GHC 8.2.2 (master...haskell-updates) https://git.io/vbXb7

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08:57 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbMc7

08:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging fb349c8 Orivej Desh: qt5.qttools: install macdeployqt on darwin

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08:59 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh force-pushed python-unstable from 7b4d415 to b501422: https://git.io/v5aIf

08:59 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/python-unstable b501422 Frederik Rietdijk: python36: 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4

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09:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to staging: https://git.io/vbMli

09:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/staging c9044de Frederik Rietdijk: python36: 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4

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09:35 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a0aeb2381e5 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)

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09:51 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbM4H

09:51 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 79adadb Orivej Desh: idris: fix eval after haskell upgrade

09:51 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d3a375f Orivej Desh: haskell-configuration-nix: fix eval

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10:00 <vcunat> all channels green again :-)

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10:01 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMBS

10:01 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9563726 Orivej Desh: mongoc: fix propagated libraries for libtool...

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10:09 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMR6

10:09 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6e2df0a Orivej Desh: haskellPackages.SCalendar: try to restore the bot capacity to evaluate...

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10:17 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32873: tarsnap service: correct doc for printStats (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vb1d9

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10:25 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32886: protobuf: restore version 2.5 (master...protobuf2_5) https://git.io/vbMu2

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11:03 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dotlambda opened pull request #32888: dmensamenu: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1 (master...dmensamenu) https://git.io/vbMaJ

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11:18 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] fpletz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbMVu

11:18 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master afa97cb Niklas Hambüchen: nginx service: Make http2 an option....

11:18 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cf12bc4 Franz Pletz: Merge pull request #32858 from nh2/nginx-add-http2-option...

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11:32 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vanschelven closed pull request #29305: Python-kivy: init at 1.10.0 (master...kivy) https://git.io/v5ylQ

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11:40 <fearlessKim[m]> is it possible that someone hit this bug in nixos ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147 . 2 days after receiving my laptop and after installing nixos 17.09, I got the bios bricked and DELL couldn't find anything so they just changed the motherboard.

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11:41 <gchristensen> ouch, fearlessKim[m]

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11:43 <gchristensen> when I grep the repo for intel-spi it doesn't show up, anything else to look for?

11:44 <fearlessKim[m]> I thought this was a dell bug but maybe it was the kernel and as nixos tends to enable everything in the kernel. The issue doesn't list my laptop (Dell 9365) but I guess I should check out if my hardware could have loaded this driver

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11:46 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #32888: dmensamenu: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1 (master...dmensamenu) https://git.io/vbMaJ

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11:48 <fearlessKim[m]> no one explains the SPI acronym in the issue, I found Service Provider Interface but that's not very helpful

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12:09 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] FRidh opened pull request #1753: Fix escaping, fixes build (master...fix/escaping) https://git.io/vbM6t

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12:10 <Alling> Trying to install NixOS (AArch64) on a RPi 3. Thought it was gonna be easy but apparently not ...

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12:11 <Alling> The first problem is that it gets stuck at "Starting kernel ..." when booting. Only thing that helps (but only sometimes) is spamming keys on the keyboard.

12:11 <Alling> And I cannot get nixos-rebuild to build at all.

12:12 <Alling> warning: Nix search path entry '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs' does not exist, ignoring

12:13 <Alling> warning: Nix search path entry '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels' does not exist, ignoring

12:13 <Alling> error: file 'nixpkgs/nixos' was not found in the Nix search path (add it using $NIX_PATH or -I)

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12:14 <Alling> And then another one with 'nixpkgs' instead of 'nixpkgs/nixos'.

12:14 <Alling> So ... how do I install NixOS on an RPi 3?

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12:16 <gchristensen> Alling: these two pages mighthelp: https://nixos.wiki/index.php?search=aarch64&go=Go or #nixos-aarch64

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12:26 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] vanschelven opened pull request #32890: google-cloud-speech: init at 0.30.0 (master...google-cloud-speech) https://git.io/vbMP9

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12:39 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti opened pull request #32891: Drop outdated Haskell package sets (master...t/drop-outdated-haskell-package-sets) https://git.io/vbM1k

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12:58 <myguidingstar> which package contains the file `libssl.so` and `libssl.a`? I tried libressl but it's not the case

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13:09 <vcunat> myguidingstar: openssl is the original provider of libssl.so

13:10 <vcunat> (*.a aren't built by default in most packages)

13:10 <vcunat> but libressl also has the same

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13:12 <gchristensen> you might need the .dev output

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13:13 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbMDp

13:13 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 61da89b Peter Hoeg: spotify: 1.0.64 -> 1.0.69

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13:14 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peterhoeg pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbMyk

13:14 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 22c7923 Peter Hoeg: spotify: 1.0.64 -> 1.0.69...

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13:17 <katyucha> ls

13:17 <katyucha> oups

13:17 <katyucha> :)

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13:32 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32893: hadoop: 2.2.0 -> 2.7.5, 2.8.3, 2.9.0, 3.0.0 (master...hadoop_2_7-3_0) https://git.io/vbMSh

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13:37 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko closed pull request #8560: chromium: Support building with NaCl (master...chromium-nacl) https://git.io/vtoku

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13:38 <lonokhov> which jobset on hydra goes into nixpkgs-unstable channel?

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13:39 <gchristensen> lonokhov: https://hydra.nixos.org/dashboard/graham@grahamc.com

13:40 <gchristensen> lonokhov: nixpkgs:trunk -> nixpkgs-unstable, nixos:trunk-combined -> nixos-unstable

13:40 <lonokhov> thanks

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13:43 <contrapumpkin> niksnut, gchristensen: mind amending the topic to say #nix-darwin?

13:45 <gchristensen> I'd be honored

13:45 <> changed the topic of #nixos to: gchristensen has changed topic for #nixos to: "Need help? Share the output of nix-shell -p nix-info --run nix-info to help us help you. || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/nixos/ || #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin"

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13:46 <contrapumpkin> thanks :)

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13:53 <ocharles> Does anyone know how to use go2nix with things that use `dep`?

13:54 <ocharles> I just want to run https://github.com/kbudde/rabbitmq_exporter

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13:59 <myguidingstar> vcunat I looked inside /nix/store/gxv958p7zrqa57df4ic0bgsb1fdl3pf7-libressl-2.4.5-dev but there are only .h files, not any .a or .so file

13:59 <vcunat> myguidingstar: these are not in -dev

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14:00 <vcunat> they are typically in the suffix-less outputs

14:00 <vcunat> (or -lib sometimes, but not in this case)

14:00 <vcunat> I meant *.so

14:00 <vcunat> (*.a typically aren't anywhere in the default builds - you have to override them)

14:02 <myguidingstar> I see

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14:32 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] sopvop opened pull request #32895: nixpkgs/manual: fix build with new pandoc (master...master) https://git.io/vbMND

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14:32 <lonokhov> I think it's my first PR to nixpkgs

14:34 <gchristensen> w00t! that one, from sopvop?

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14:35 <lonokhov> Oh yeah, forgot I've changed my nick here :)

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14:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] PierreR opened pull request #32896: Haskell-language-puppet: don't build haddock (master...master) https://git.io/vbMAd

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14:46 <catern> does anyone know anything about this Fedora modularity initiative?

14:47 <catern> it sounds kind of like they are moving towards a more Nixy way of doing things, where they rebuild packages from source much more often... but I'm surprised to hear that they are rarely rebuilding things from source at the moment, or something

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14:48 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] FRidh closed pull request #1753: Fix escaping, fixes build (master...fix/escaping) https://git.io/vbM6t

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14:50 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] FRidh reopened pull request #1753: Fix escaping, fixes build (master...fix/escaping) https://git.io/vbM6t

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14:52 <mpickering> Any chance of a merge now on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/30068 ?

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15:02 <dan_b`> I am happy because today I used nix to build a kernel for a MIPS SoC and it boots successfully on my arduino yun https://github.com/telent/nixpkgs/blob/nixwrt/README.md#real-hardware

15:03 <dan_b`> but I am also sad because the runtime closure for gnu hello has 22 derivations in it including multple copies of gcc and glibc

15:03 <dan_b`> which is ~ 120MB and a bit big for the target hardware

15:03 <contrapumpkin> that surprises me

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15:03 <contrapumpkin> I'd file an issue about the unnecessarily large closure

15:04 <vcunat> that's some cross-compilation?

15:04 <dan_b`> it is most likely something I've done wrong

15:04 <dan_b`> (understatement of the week)

15:04 <contrapumpkin> I'd file the issue and find out :)

15:04 <gchristensen> yeah it is not too hard to accidentally get multiple stdenvs when doing cross-arch building

15:04 <dan_b`> but I'm not replete with ideas for where to start digging

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15:04 <dan_b`> as you say, maybe if I open the issue someone will tell me

15:05 <duncan^> I feel like this is potentially a stupid question, but, does there exist an equivalent of the "build-essential" packages on Debian-derived systems, that would enable us to pull in a toolchain for building C programs?

15:05 <lonokhov> dan_b`: I tried to make a cross compiled nixpkgs for mipsel, had to edit system/parse.nix for it. Still can't figure out how to feed my config to linuxHeaders without breaking host :(

15:05 * duncan^ has lost Google-fu skills

15:05 <catern> dan_b`: how are you checking what the runtime closure is? when I nix-store --query --requisites $(which hello) I just get glibc and hello

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15:06 <dan_b`> [dan@loaclhost:~/src/nixwrt]$ nix-build nixwrt.nix -A hello -o hello-result

15:06 <dan_b`> /nix/store/20v2422msq07yx6i74barcshb3jm50nn-hello-2.10-mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu

15:06 <dan_b`> [dan@loaclhost:~/src/nixwrt]$ nix-store -q -R hello-result |wc -l

15:06 <dan_b`> 22

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15:07 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra tagged 1.11.16 at 7c44cad: https://git.io/vbDe4

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15:07 <catern> oh, because of the cross-compile

15:07 <niksnut> gchristensen: I've added the missing tag, not sure why it was missing

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15:08 <gchristensen> thanks! and thanks to samueldr for pointing it out

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15:20 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDJA

15:20 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3c82e6f Eelco Dolstra: Add AMI for eu-west-3

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15:23 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] edolstra pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbDUX

15:23 <NixOS_GitHub> nix/master af1e2ff Frederik Rietdijk: Fix escaping, fixes build

15:23 <NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 576abaa Eelco Dolstra: Merge pull request #1753 from FRidh/fix/escaping...

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15:29 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDTi

15:29 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 758b4c1 Tuomas Tynkkynen: make-disk-image.nix: Really fix write permissions in the store...

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15:30 <gchristensen> Dezgeg: would you mind using `-print0` and xargs `-0` on that one?

15:31 <Dezgeg> I'm pretty afraid that I get that one wrong as well

15:31 <gchristensen> oh :)

15:31 <edef> i was about to write a PoC of it breaking with newlines lol

15:32 <Dezgeg> luckily newlines aren't allowed in /nix/store (I hope)

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15:33 <edef> absolutely are, Dezgeg

15:33 <edef> edef@cheetah ~> echo /nix/store/v4bhd5rx4ifxgavzg0j0xg2n3nvz8j5i-foo/*

15:33 <edef> bar

15:33 <edef> edef@cheetah ~>

15:33 <dan_b`> in subdirectories of packages, really not?

15:34 <edef> urgh

15:34 <Dezgeg> it's -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1

15:34 <edef> ah

15:34 <edef> that would trigger invalid-char-in-name, yeah

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15:34 <edef> -print0/-0 is still a good habit anyhow

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15:35 <Dezgeg> true

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15:35 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDkB

15:35 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 0148007 Eelco Dolstra: create-amis.sh: Ass eu-west-3

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15:36 <aminechikhaoui> hehe

15:36 <aminechikhaoui> nice type niksnut :D

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15:37 <aminechikhaoui> typo *

15:37 <vcunat> why are they -type restrictions even there?

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15:37 <vcunat> s/they/the/

15:37 <Dezgeg> so that it doesn't try to chmod destinations of symlinks

15:37 <niksnut> aminechikhaoui: lol

15:37 <niksnut> freudian slip

15:38 <aminechikhaoui> is that the new Paris region

15:38 <niksnut> yes

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15:38 <aminechikhaoui> nice

15:38 <vcunat> Dezgeg: right, symlinks outside store are allowed...

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15:39 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko opened pull request #32899: chrootenv: resolve #32876, #32877, #32878 (master...20171220.023225/chrootenv) https://git.io/vbDk5

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15:40 <Dezgeg> yep

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15:41 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] edolstra closed pull request #32827: CODEOWNERS: Add me, @Ericson2314, to a few things please (master...codeowners) https://git.io/vbPwT

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15:43 <Alling> gchristensen: I tried again, this time with ARMv7 instead of AArch64 (RPi 3). Now it gets stuck at "Started Rebuild Journal Catalog" after building for a while. What am I doing wrong?

15:43 <gchristensen> I have no idea, I barely know things about aarch64, and even less about armv7. however, you'll have better support probably with aarch64 from upstream (ie: nixos officially)

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15:44 <Dezgeg> usually weird raspi hangs are due to insufficient power supplies, it's *really* power hungry

15:45 <Dezgeg> and someone reported of a upstream bug in 4.14.x which is not yet fixed in mainline, I think

15:47 <dan_b`> ok, well, I think I may have found part of the problem with closure size, my hello executable was not stripped

15:47 <dan_b`> rookie error

15:48 <samueldr> Alling: if using a 2.5A+ power supply with a random USB cable, use the shortest you can find, I've had issues with cheaper (and long) cables

15:48 <Dezgeg> it might be that cross stripping is not being done (or implemented incorrectly)

15:48 <samueldr> though, when using hdmi, it outputs on the display when there isn't enough power

15:49 <dan_b`> considering the microusb connector is typically only rated to 1.8A

15:49 <dan_b`> it's probably no surprise that the cables aren't always designed to deliver more

15:49 <Dezgeg> the lightning bolt on the display is actually a problem since it conflicts with the kernel display driver

15:49 <samueldr> :)

15:49 <samueldr> exactly Dezgeg

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15:50 <Dezgeg> actually it might "explain" the hang as well

15:50 <yegortimoshenko> copumpkin: could you allow me to push to your fetchurl-user-agent branch? want to rebase against master and fix stuff suggested by eelco: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/17757

15:50 <samueldr> when it happens, it might show u-boot stuff again, switching VT after the lightning bolt and back *should* fix it IF there's enough power

15:50 <Dezgeg> yes

15:50 <copumpkin> yegortimoshenko: sure! please do :) just watch out for the .drv churn he was concerned about

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15:51 <gchristensen> and please don't merge it without a thumb from eelco :)

15:52 <yegortimoshenko> copumpkin, gchristensen: sure!

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15:52 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDtU

15:52 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 a7664a6 Tuomas Tynkkynen: make-disk-image.nix: Really fix write permissions in the store...

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15:53 <infinisil> Is there no function in Nix to check whether a string contains another string??

15:54 <yegortimoshenko> copumpkin: i'll need to have "Allow edits from maintainers" checkbox set on the pull request (it's in the right sidebar at the bottom)

15:55 <copumpkin> yegortimoshenko: whoops, checked now!

15:55 <yegortimoshenko> this was probably opened before it became the default

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15:55 <yegortimoshenko> thanks!

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15:55 <infinisil> Ohh, I guess the match function can do that

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16:29 <benzrf> hi

16:29 <benzrf> i just overrode all-cabal-hashes in my config.nix to use the latest commit in the commercial-haskell repo

16:30 <benzrf> but it seems that the format for it is incompatible with the callHackage helper i have?

16:30 <benzrf> whats going on

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16:34 <benzrf> oh wait crud im using fetchFromGithub and it expects a tar heuh

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16:36 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] lsix opened pull request #32902: pythonPackages.pytest-quickcheck: 0.8.2 -> 0.8.3 (master...update_pytestquickcheck) https://git.io/vbDsi

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16:43 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32895: nixpkgs/manual: fix build with new pandoc (master...master) https://git.io/vbMND

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16:44 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] corngood opened pull request #32903: transgui: 5.0.1-svn-r986 -> 5.0.1-svn-r988 (master...transgui-update) https://git.io/vbDGF

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16:47 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] asymmetric opened pull request #32904: libbitcoin: 2.11.0 -> 3.4.0 (master...asymmetric/libbitcoin) https://git.io/vbDZZ

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16:49 <ebw> Hi there!

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16:55 <FRidh> Trouble with a Nix multi-user installation on CentOS:

16:55 <FRidh> error: cloning builder process: Invalid argument

16:55 <FRidh> error: unable to start build process

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16:55 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] basvandijk opened pull request #32905: elasticsearch-curator: init at 5.4.1 (master...elasticsearch-curator-5.4.1) https://git.io/vbDng

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16:55 <FRidh> The daemon is running via systemd.

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16:56 <FRidh> build users exist

16:56 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixpkgs-17.09-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a7664a656f5 (from 72 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-17.09-darwin)

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16:56 <Dezgeg> sandbox on?

16:56 <FRidh> yes

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16:56 <FRidh> disabling fixed it

16:57 <FRidh> but of course that's not acceptable :)

16:57 <FRidh> does the daemon use unshare?

16:57 <Dezgeg> yes

16:57 <Dezgeg> maybe the kernel is too old for those features

16:57 <Dezgeg> or doesn't have user namespaces enabled

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16:58 <FRidh> I think its the latter, let me check again

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16:58 <Dezgeg> related: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1521

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16:59 <Dezgeg> but it shouldn't affect nixStable, I think

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17:01 <FRidh> This is with Nix master

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17:02 <FRidh> ah that issue indeed

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17:14 <Ankhers> gleber_, (anyone interested in BEAM and nix): What are your thoughts on requiring running of `mix deps.get` / `rebar3 get-deps` in order to have the projects dependencies local and then be able run `rebar3 2nix` or whatever that command turns out to be. Or should we support pulling directly from hex, github, etc?

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17:15 <Ankhers> yegortimoshenko: I believe you mentioned you like Erlang, maybe you have thoughts on this?

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17:18 <yegortimoshenko> Ankhers: i highly prefer fetchers like this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32695/commits/0cfda0b162f61a561ae83824cf53b61d68b21f4a

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17:18 <contrapumpkin> bgamari: do you have an example of how you want to use toPath? you can append strings to paths and the result will be a path, so sometimes the answer is to do something like /. + foo

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17:20 <bgamari> ahh

17:20 <yegortimoshenko> i don't like nix2whatever tools unless it's importing whole namespace (like Nixpkgs imports emacs ELPA and MELPA, or like quicklisp is imported)

17:20 <bgamari> contrapumpkin, I didn't realize that

17:20 <bgamari> contrapumpkin, thanks!

17:20 <contrapumpkin> I do think toPath should probably do the right thing

17:20 <contrapumpkin> the issue is with changing semantics of an existing function

17:20 <bgamari> sure

17:20 <Alling> OK, I seriously don't understand what I'm doing wrong. HOW do I install NixOS on a RPi 3?

17:21 <contrapumpkin> mysql_Real_toPath2

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17:21 <contrapumpkin> :P

17:21 <Ankhers> yegortimoshenko: I will take a look at that.

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17:21 <Alling> AArch64 gets stuck at whatever it was, some "Nix search path not found".

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17:22 <Alling> ARMv7 gets stuck at "Started Rebuild Journal Catalog" after building, and the rebuild does not seem to be "activated" (still autologin as root etc).

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17:25 <Ankhers> yegortimoshenko: Apparently we already have a fetchHex. I just need to see if it actually works.

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17:26 <yegortimoshenko> Ankhers: fetchHex only handles one dependency at a time, and it still leaves for you to resolve dependencies, you'll need something else probably

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17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbDl1

17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master f95ba8e Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.70 -> 4.9.71

17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a4c9327 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.14.7 -> 4.14.8

17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 26fb53a Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.106 -> 4.4.107

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17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDlM

17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 c9d9f86 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.9.70 -> 4.9.71...

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17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDlS

17:28 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 76ad2a5 Tim Steinbach: linux: 4.4.106 -> 4.4.107...

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17:52 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] asymmetric opened pull request #32906: libbitcoin-protocol: init at 3.4.0 (master...asymmetric/libbitcoin-protocol) https://git.io/vbDB2

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17:56 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32907: neko: 2.1.0 -> 2.2.0 (master...neko_2.2.0) https://git.io/vbDRv

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18:07 * peel[m] sent a long message: peel[m]_2017-12-20_18:07:41.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/smzeKfPPEidBssjnfiwvGAUv>

18:09 <gchristensen> peel[m] said: "Can anyone point me out how to properly build uboot for aarch64 on nixos. I've tried a custom drv for orange pi zero plus 2 from my overlay and the ubootRaspberryPi3_64bit with pretty much the same result:"

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18:09 <anon997> hello

18:10 <anon997> in gdm, the user i configured via configuration.nix doesn't appear on the login screen, homever when i add an user with useradd he appears, what could be the reason?

18:10 <pkill9> is there a way to 'disable' a channel, i.e. `nix-env -i package` not look in that channel?

18:10 <pkill9> unless explicitely requested via `nix-env '<disabledchannel>' -i package`

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18:19 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] shlevy pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbDEc

18:19 <NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 71987b1 Will Dietz: linenoise.cpp: allow completions from empty input...

18:19 <NixOS_GitHub> nix/master 62e214f Shea Levy: Merge branch 'fix/issue-1742-empty-completions' of git://github.com/dtzWill/nix

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18:19 <NixOS_GitHub> [nix] shlevy closed pull request #1746: linenoise.cpp: allow completions from empty input (master...fix/issue-1742-empty-completions) https://git.io/vb1RM

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18:20 <samueldr> peel[m]: hi!

18:20 <samueldr> I believe I have something that may help you

18:20 <myguidingstar> in bash shell, how do I get full path (in nix store) of an installed package in current system?

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18:21 <samueldr> this PR builds u-boot for pine64, which also has an aarch64 allwinner chip → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32553

18:21 <samueldr> AFAIK, Arm Trusted Firmware **will** be needed

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18:22 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDEi

18:22 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master cbf0b68 Tim Steinbach: linux-copperhead: 4.14.7.a -> 4.14.8.b

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18:22 <myguidingstar> when writing a derivative it's as straightforward as ${gcc}/bin/gcc (for input derivaties). How do i get similar result in my normal daily bash shell?

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18:22 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] NeQuissimus pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDEP

18:22 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 010887e Tim Steinbach: linux-copperhead: 4.14.7.a -> 4.14.8.b...

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18:22 <samueldr> you're talking about an overlay, can you share a link?

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18:23 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] asymmetric closed pull request #32906: libbitcoin-protocol: init at 3.4.0 (master...asymmetric/libbitcoin-protocol) https://git.io/vbDB2

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18:23 <peel[m]> samueldr: thanks a bunch. sounds like a good starting point. My yak shaving skills are getting better every day. Duh.

18:23 <samueldr> oh, and u-boot (for now) DOES need to be built on the target architecture, you may need an aarch64 device to build that u-boot

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18:24 <samueldr> it doesn't have to be nixos, as long as you can get nix on it

18:25 <samueldr> (alternatively, you can do the usual cross-compilation from the repo, haven't done it for an aarch64 build though)

18:25 <samueldr> (I mean, manual build of u-boot like you'd do from any other distro)

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18:38 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib: https://git.io/vbDzG

18:38 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib 2abe5fe Domen Kožar: ghcWithPackages: allow configuration of extraOutputsToInstall

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18:38 <bgamari> What is one supposed to do when faced with "error: stack overflow (possible infinite recursion)"

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18:40 <peel[m]> yeah. I'm getting a bit of problems with the aarch64 cross-compilation whereas armv7 seems to be building just fine. I'll just get it built on my archlinux arm cluster (which I hope to finally migrate to nixos)

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18:41 <bgamari> peel[m], are you using Sonarpulse's cross-elegant branch?

18:41 <bgamari> or my cross-ben branch?

18:41 <samueldr> peel[m]: once you have an aarch64 nixos, then it becomes MUCH easier to fiddle around with the builds

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18:42 * bgamari was able to cross-compile a full nixos installation to from amd64 to armv7 for the first time yesterday

18:42 <bgamari> so this isn't a mature feature yet

18:42 <samueldr> :D

18:42 <samueldr> bgamari: cross-compile for real or is there any qemu-user smell?

18:43 <bgamari> there is a bit of qemu-user smell

18:43 <bgamari> but most of it was cross-compiled

18:43 <samueldr> :)

18:43 <bgamari> the qemu bits should be easily fixable

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18:43 <bgamari> but my time is rather limited at the moment, so I was more or less on the quickest path to a booting machine

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18:44 <samueldr> that's great progress

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18:44 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] domenkozar pushed 1 new commit to haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib: https://git.io/vbDgc

18:44 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib a0348e7 Domen Kožar: ghcWithPackages: also install bin for bw compatibility

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18:45 <bgamari> unfortunately something has since broken

18:45 <bgamari> this stack overflow error is awful

18:45 <bgamari> --show-trace offers no help

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18:49 <peel[m]> I got kinda stuck with my own attempt at the whole mess. then fiddled with the bits from yourself.

18:49 <bgamari> peel[m], yeah, there is still quite a bit of work to be done

18:49 <bgamari> it has been a long road

18:49 <bgamari> Sonarpulse, is responsible for most of the hard parts

18:50 <bgamari> I just did the grunt-work of getting individual packages building

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18:52 <peel[m]> I had some relatively decent attempts at running the whole thing inside of docker containers. the thing is I gave up after way too many qemu segfault issues.

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18:54 <peel[m]> that was mostly for the previous board that was armv6

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18:58 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] primeos pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbD2F

18:58 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 3ebca3b Michael Weiss: android-studio-preview: 3.1.0.4 -> 3.1.0.5

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19:43 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32863: jwm: 1651 -> 1653 (master...upd.jwm) https://git.io/vb14R

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19:43 <rnhmjoj[m]> can someone merge PR 32828?

19:46 <orivej> rnhmjoj[m]: I'll do

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19:46 <rnhmjoj[m]> thank you

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19:49 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32896: Haskell-language-puppet: don't build haddock (master...master) https://git.io/vbMAd

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19:55 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbD64

19:55 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 66eaa75 rnhmjoj: pythonPackages.Nikola: 7.8.9 -> 7.8.10...

19:55 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 e51a0da Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32828 from rnhmjoj/release-17.09...

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19:58 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti closed pull request #32821: haskell: set buildInputs in nix-shell env (master...haskell/shell-env-build-inputs) https://git.io/vbPIR

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20:00 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] peti pushed 6 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbD6A

20:00 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master acc6389 Peter Simons: hackage2nix: update list of broken builds...

20:00 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e058744 Peter Simons: hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update...

20:00 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master e4bb2a7 Peter Simons: liquidhaskell: drop obsolete override

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20:02 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: would you perhaps be interested in reviewing IBus (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31094)?

20:02 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: I do right now

20:02 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: thank you a lot!

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20:02 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: the commit with "move ibus-setup back to dev" in the title says "Move ibus-setup back to out" in its comment

20:03 <orivej> giDiscoverSelf looks strange, how are the packages needing it supposed to be in other distros?

20:03 <orivej> ...to be built...

20:05 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: it's to add a search path to GI_TYPELIB_PATH on wrapGAppsHook, in other distros it will just be there or will be pointed to, it's only needed at runtime

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20:05 <nix-gsc-io`bot> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/26fb53a3255 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)

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20:06 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: something to the effect of giDiscoverSelf is required by any package that includes typelibs that binaries in that same package depend on

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20:08 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] dtzWill opened pull request #32910: vte-ng: don't run configure as part of autogen, since it runs w/o args (master...fix/vte-ng-darwin) https://git.io/vbDi6

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20:08 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar closed pull request #32862: termite: add patch to fix handling nix urls (master...feature/termite-nix-urls) https://git.io/vb18A

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20:08 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDiP

20:08 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master c433fef Will Dietz: termite: Add patch to avoid matching trailing punctuation in URLs...

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20:08 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: what can use GI_TYPELIB_PATH if it is changed so late, at the pre fixup?

20:09 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: wrapGAppsHook, it goes into the wrapper

20:09 <orivej> I see

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20:11 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: i've fixed commit log

20:12 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: what do you think about moving giDiscoverSelf into wrapGAppsHook?

20:12 <orivej> moving giDiscoverSelf logic into wrapGAppsHook?

20:13 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: that was initially what i was doing, until i spoke with jtojnar

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20:14 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: that PR contains 145 commits now, please rebase

20:15 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: sure, i've accidentally rebased on top of master

20:15 <orivej> could you link to the conversation with jtojnar?

20:16 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31094#pullrequestreview-84020715, under pkgs/build-support/setup-hooks/wrap-gapps-hook.sh

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20:18 <orivej> he did not argue that gobject-introspection needs a new hook, he just said that he thought that make_gobject_introspection_find_gir_files already handles this case :)

20:18 <yegortimoshenko> there also was a slow-paced irc discussion: https://botbot.me/freenode/nixos/2017-12-18/?msg=94778947&page=2

20:20 <yegortimoshenko> true. but i still think it's a proper place for this hook: if it's coupled with wrapGAppsHook, no other wrapper would be able to use the correct value for GI_TYPELIB_PATH

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20:22 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: it seems that it may work incorrectly with multiple outputs

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20:26 <pkill9> bug in virtualbox yo

20:26 <gchristensen> plenty of those, pkill9 :)

20:27 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: moving it to wrapGAppsHook probably won't fix this issue. typelibs are a runtime dependency, so they should probably end up in out, but i don't know how what is the value of $prefix when there are multiple outputs (i'd guess probably the first output).

20:27 <pkill9> gchristensen: oh ok

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20:27 <pkill9> the specific one i have complains of incompatibility because mixed Qt libraries

20:28 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: prefix is not defined for preFixup, only for fixupOutput: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/c433fef525225bb2d9080875413026ce8db6006c/pkgs/stdenv/generic/setup.sh#L894

20:29 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: why would it work then?

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20:29 <samueldr> pkill9: anything QT has to be installed from only one source, IIRC

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20:30 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: initially it is set to $out: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/c433fef525225bb2d9080875413026ce8db6006c/pkgs/stdenv/generic/setup.sh#L438

20:30 <samueldr> issue with qtxcb.so or something similar I presume pkill9

20:30 <pkill9> what do you mean only one source?

20:31 <samueldr> IIRC, others know better for the details, but one channel only

20:32 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: nice catch! i'll iterate through $outputs

20:32 <samueldr> can't have let's say virtualbox installed using the system's channel and then some other QT software installed using the user's channels

20:32 <samueldr> now I'm not entirely sure about one detail: if the two channels match, it should be okay (?)

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20:34 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: sounds good. even though the outputs are moved in the preFixup hooks as well, we may expect (and later fix if this is not the case) that stdenv preFixup hooks run before preFixup hooks of packages that depend on stdenv (/cc Sonarpulse)

20:35 <Sonarpulse> hi

20:35 <orivej> Sonarpulse: hi, I don't remember the current order in which hooks are run :)

20:35 <Sonarpulse> order of hooks is funny thing

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20:36 <Sonarpulse> they are appened at the end of the array normally

20:36 <Sonarpulse> and default*Inputs are processed last

20:36 <Sonarpulse> so defaultish ones would go last?

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20:36 <orivej> hm, that's the opposite of what I expected :)

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20:37 <Sonarpulse> orivej: the order stuff is gross

20:37 <Sonarpulse> its best when it doesn't matter

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20:37 <Sonarpulse> I've tried to change to a last-priority not first-priority model

20:38 <Sonarpulse> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31414

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20:38 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDME

20:38 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 6b46877 Sander van der Burg: dysnomia: 0.7 -> 0.7.1

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20:38 <Sonarpulse> but that broke things real bad

20:38 <orivej> yeah, that was difficult, I remember

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20:39 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDMX

20:39 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 1259c46 Sander van der Burg: dysnomia: 0.7 -> 0.7.1...

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20:39 <Sonarpulse> orivej: btw just toggled base branch to fix PR state

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20:40 <Sonarpulse> orivej: that everything has a totally implicit dep on libc doesn't help :(

20:40 <Sonarpulse> but I could *guarantee* with that the deps would be processed before dependees

20:40 <Sonarpulse> which is useful

20:41 <Sonarpulse> we don't have the opposite guarantee today that deps are processed after

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20:42 <orivej> yes, your PR is logical

20:43 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: the task may be simpler, wrapGAppsHook was running only for the first output since https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/d10b9108f2b6b3c7e02234e6abe85ce29600cc0b

20:43 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: i've already changed giDiscoverSelf to run for every output, even if wrapGAppsHook doesn't do it, it's the right thing to do

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20:45 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDDR

20:45 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9cee2e5 Sander van der Burg: dysnomia module: use postgres as default user and always publish container properties

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20:46 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: also (what made me think that gi hook is better place for giDiscoverSelf than wrapGAppsHook) wrapGAppsHook doesn't fill in environment variables by itself, it only wraps executables

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20:46 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] svanderburg pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDDV

20:46 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 150e2b5 Sander van der Burg: dysnomia module: use postgres as default user and always publish container properties...

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20:46 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: `addToSearchPath` takes 3 arguments.

20:47 <orivej> (or does it?)

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20:47 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: it's commonly used with two arguments: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=addToSearchPath&type=

20:47 <infinisil> I finally got around writing a znapzend NixOS module (a ZFS backup daemon using zfs send/recv), it's really nice :D, cc hyper_ch

20:47 <orivej> it does not, you are right

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20:49 <yegortimoshenko> (i am currently rebuilding ibus to see if the updated hook works)

20:49 <hyper_ch> infinisil: doesn't work with encrypted datasets

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20:50 <jtojnar> yegortimoshenko: what's up with the gtk-doc.make? Without autoreconfHook, it gets into the directory during configurePhase; why is it not so with autoreconfHook?

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20:50 <infinisil> hyper_ch: I'm not using encryption yet :)

20:50 <yegortimoshenko> hyper_ch: have encrypted datasets been finally released?

20:50 <orivej> yegortimoshenko: I'd leave a hint somewhere that giDiscoverSelf was made with wrapGAppsHook in mind :)

20:50 <jtojnar> yegortimoshenko: just facing the same issue here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/32910

20:50 <hyper_ch> yegortimoshenko: depends on how you define "finally released"

20:50 <infinisil> hyper_ch: Are you just not backing up encrypted datasets until it's fixed?

20:50 <hyper_ch> infinisil: how doesn't use encrypted datasets?=

20:51 <hyper_ch> infinisil: I just make full dataset backups using my own script

20:51 <hyper_ch> no recursive, no incremental

20:51 <infinisil> ah right

20:51 <hyper_ch> infinisil: also https://github.com/oetiker/znapzend/issues/302

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20:51 <yegortimoshenko> jtojnar: i'm not sure, i've googled the hell out of this problem, but copying it to cwd helps. ibus is not the first package where i have had this problem, but probably the first one that i've committed to nixpkgs

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20:52 <orivej> jtojnar: ./autogen.sh often includes additional logic, such as "touch gtk-doc.make"

20:52 <infinisil> hyper_ch: Hmm right, maybe i'll do such a PR then eventually

20:52 <infinisil> Now I'm just happy my znapzend module works nicely

20:53 <hyper_ch> well, I wrote a simple bash script

20:53 <yegortimoshenko> jtojnar: oh, i remember. xfce 4.13 had this problem before i packaged their xfce4-dev-tools, i'll link to it, probably it has explanation

20:53 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: touch gtk-doc.make won't work (it does work for ChangeLog), it needs to be copied, at least typically

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20:54 <hyper_ch> infinisil: I'll just need to modularize it so it can be used in nixos directly and configured in configuration.nix https://github.com/sjau/bash-stuff/blob/master/encZFSSend

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20:54 <hyper_ch> after it gets some testing

20:54 <yegortimoshenko> jtojnar: https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-dev-tools/blob/6b088ab3d118f9cd4e9c98c6bd3883a05ef8a73e/scripts/xdt-autogen.in.in#L488

20:54 <orivej> yegortimoshenko, jtojnar: the autogen.sh of gnome3.vte additionally contains "gtkdocize --copy --flavour no-tmpl"

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20:55 <hyper_ch> infinisil: so, where's your module?

20:55 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: right! that's what xfce4-dev-tools does: https://github.com/xfce-mirror/xfce4-dev-tools/blob/6b088ab3d118f9cd4e9c98c6bd3883a05ef8a73e/scripts/xdt-autogen.in.in#L651

20:56 <yegortimoshenko> i'll use gtkdocize in ibus.

20:56 <infinisil> hyper_ch: Just on my computer for now, need to do some final polishing up and testing

20:56 <hyper_ch> pastebinit or I won't believe it :)

20:58 <infinisil> It won't take long, a little patience ;)

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20:59 <hyper_ch> but I want to see it now /me shakes fist

20:59 <hyper_ch> infinisil: feel free to have a look at my little script

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21:00 <infinisil> hyper_ch: I need to back up like 150GB stuff, does your script not do any incremental at all? Because if so, it's pretty impractical

21:00 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: fixed that in ibus (it's cosmetic, but it's much better this way). rebuilding...

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21:01 <orivej> ok, I'll test it too

21:01 <hyper_ch> infinisil: script does... but currently I'm backing up 5x a day 150GB because of encryption receiving issues

21:02 <infinisil> hyper_ch: so it is incremental?

21:02 <hyper_ch> infinisil: also it makes use of bookmarks

21:02 <hyper_ch> infinisil: yes it is

21:02 <hyper_ch> infinisil: but couldn't really test it because of encryption issues

21:03 <hyper_ch> infinisil: https://github.com/sjau/bash-stuff/blob/master/encZFSSend#L62

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21:06 <infinisil> hyper_ch: I'll look at it another time, finishing the module for now :)

21:06 <hyper_ch> infinisil: :)

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21:15 <hyper_ch> so, off to bed

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21:19 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDH3

21:19 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 92e525e Will Dietz: vte-ng: don't run configure as part of autogen, since it runs w/o args...

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21:21 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] joachifm closed pull request #32809: warzone2100: 3.2.2 -> 3.2.3 (master...warzone2100-3.2.3) https://git.io/vbil8

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21:37 <catern> blah containers are so terrible

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21:41 <gchristensen> I feel that, catern

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21:43 <Lisanna> Hey, what's the correct way to use NixOS to manage my NIX_PATH?

21:43 <gchristensen> in what way do you want to manage it?

21:44 <Lisanna> I want it to go back to what it would be with a vanilla install

21:44 <Lisanna> I used to use nix.nixPath

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21:44 <Lisanna> But, I delete that line, and my NIX_PATH doesn't get updated, it remains the same

21:44 <tilpner> Did you login again?

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21:45 <tilpner> It won't take effect immediately

21:45 <gchristensen> and you `nixos-rebuild switch`d?

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21:46 <Lisanna> tilpner: huh, I thought I did... guess I didn't.

21:47 <Lisanna> so, if you don't use nix.nixPath, does a nixos-rebuild use what you have set in nix-channel to build your NIX_PATH?

21:47 <gchristensen> nixos-rebuild always uses NIX_PATH

21:47 <gchristensen> oh

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21:49 <greglearns> NixOS cannot run on newer instances of AWS EC2 (C5, M5) -- it only works on older instances (T2, M4, etc.) -- https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=269871

21:50 <greglearns> or, to be more clear (sorry if that sounded like click bate), NixOps cannot launch using the newer EC2 instances. See the last comment on that forum discussion.

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21:51 <gchristensen> ooh I didn't realize aws used nvme these days

21:51 <greglearns> from the discussion: "it looks like the AMI you are launching your instances from is based on NixOS. Reading through their forums, I've noticed a few other users who have had issues with NixOS finding NVMe drives on boot..."

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21:54 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] volth opened pull request #32912: dejavu_fonts: make relative symlink (master...patch-83) https://git.io/vbDdK

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21:57 <dhess> is that just a matter of adding "nvme" to boot.initrd.availableKernelModules ?

21:57 <dhess> I'm running NixOS on NVMe drives on several machines, including an armv7l box

21:58 <Mic92> greglearns: can you diff lsmod on both instance types?

21:58 <Dezgeg> it's been recently fixed I think (by indeed adding nvme)

21:59 <Mic92> We don't do any fancy things with the kernel. It is most likely missing drivers we need to add to our ec2 profile

21:59 <Mic92> Dezgeg: was it backported?

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21:59 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko closed pull request #32912: dejavu_fonts: make relative symlink (master...patch-83) https://git.io/vbDdK

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22:00 <Dezgeg> 0c5a587eeba5302ff87e494baefd2f14f4e19bee

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22:01 <Mic92> greglearns: you probably need to hit the nixops guys to bump their ami images.

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22:02 <greglearns> Mic92 any idea how to contact the nixops people?

22:03 <dhess> (actually it's an aarch64 machine that's running on NVMe, not armv7l)

22:04 <yegortimoshenko> orivej: new hook broke ibus, i'm not sure how to iterate through outputs properly (ack doesn't help)

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22:05 <Dezgeg> check patchelf hook for instance (I think)

22:05 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: thanks!

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22:06 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: it's a fixupOutputHook... i need to do this at preFixup

22:07 <Dezgeg> I guess you get to look at how fixupOutputHook is implemented then

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22:08 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: i have a pr with a bunch of chrootenv improvements, i've requested your review because you've completed it with proper helpful error message and reviewed it and found a lot of bugs

22:09 <Dezgeg> actually, isn't fixupOutputHook early enough

22:10 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: Ok. I look into it now

22:10 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: is it before proper fixupPhase?

22:11 <Dezgeg> it's all hooks mostly

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22:11 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jtojnar pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDb4

22:11 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 53acbe8 Jan Tojnar: cligh: switch to Python 3

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22:11 <Mic92> greglearns: github bug tracker

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22:12 <Mic92> *issue tracker

22:12 <Dezgeg> fixup phase is basically preFixup; fixupOutputHooks; write propagated-build-inputs etc.; postFixup

22:13 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: i'll try to switch to fixupOutputHooks then. thanks!

22:13 <yegortimoshenko> (and yet, strange that for `for output in $outputs; do ... done` won't work, i see it in openjdk9 derivation in postHook for example)

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22:14 <yegortimoshenko> s/for//

22:16 <Dezgeg> how doesn't it work?

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22:17 <greglearns> I saw this in the nixops manual: nixops show-option --xml machine boot.initrd.availableKernelModules . is it possible to modify that, or do I really need to get nixops people to rebuild an image?

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22:21 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: https://gist.github.com/yegortimoshenko/56d4fe326a9017e541e6e4a445d339c0

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22:22 <Dezgeg> here $output is e.g. out, bin, doc an so on

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22:23 <Dezgeg> so it needs to be ${!output} or something to use variable variable names

22:23 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: oh, i see. thanks!

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22:24 <Dezgeg> but you don't nee a loop anyway with the fixupOutputHooks

22:24 <magnetophon> orivej: I seem to have issue #32676 again: ardour won't build on the latest unstable, with the same error. your fix is in my nixos-version: f704903 Any ideas.

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22:25 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] rycee pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDNN

22:25 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master d30f5f8 Robert Helgesson: eclipse: version updates...

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22:25 <magnetophon> orivej: last time I just cherry-picked your fix, and ardour built...

22:26 <orivej> magnetophon: why does it build? for my it downloads from the binary cache.

22:26 <orivej> I'm at cb0b1423ad273943363bfbbea018d1507b144fc0

22:27 <magnetophon> orivej: that surprized me too. any ideas how I can findout?

22:29 <orivej> magnetophon: f704903 is not in Nixpkgs. can you try building from unmodified nixpkgs first?

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22:30 <magnetophon> orivej: ah, thanks, I'll inverstigate that.

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22:33 <magnetophon> orivej: found the problem, thanks!

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22:35 <greglearns> In trying to fix the nixops issue on AWS newer NVMe instances, I notice that my nixops is pinned to ttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs-channels/archive/19879836d10f64a10658d1e2a84fc54b090e2087.tar.gz . How do I find a newer tarball url to pin to?

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22:38 <tilpner> greglearns - https://howoldis.herokuapp.com/ or https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs-channels

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22:42 <pkill9> samueldr: im running a non-nixos (slackware), so are my slackware's Qt libraries being picked up by virtualbox?

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22:44 <samueldr> ah, I wouldn't even think virtualbox from nix would work since it needs kernel modules

22:44 <samueldr> pkill9: I'd use whatever slackware does for virtualbox

22:44 <pkill9> yeah probably

22:45 <samueldr> gist or pastebin the full error message, just for fun

22:45 <pkill9> ok :)

22:46 <samueldr> (I'm still interested in the full error message virtualbox from nix on slackware gives you)

22:48 <pkill9> samueldr: https://pastebin.com/svPhumu8

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22:48 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] yegortimoshenko closed pull request #32527: clojure: 1.8.0 -> 1.9.0 (master...clojure-1.9.0) https://git.io/vbBzb

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22:49 <samueldr> good, not at all related to QT as I assumed earlier (since I was assuming nixos)

22:49 <samueldr> oh, well, possibly

22:49 <samueldr> I re-read the message

22:49 <samueldr> Cannot mix incompatible Qt library

22:49 <samueldr> probably using slackware's own?

22:50 <pkill9> probably, though I thought it would use the ones in nix?

22:50 <samueldr> even on nixos, (unless it changed recently) Qt libraries are a mess

22:50 <pkill9> ah

22:51 <pkill9> so is it more of an issue with the Qt libs in nixpkgs?

22:51 <pkill9> is progress being made on them?

22:51 <pkill9> so they run isolated

22:51 <orivej> the cause is known but the fix is not: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/30551

22:52 <samueldr> ^ thanks orivej, was searching for that issue

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22:52 <pkill9> interesting, glad I'm not the only one

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22:56 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vbDhe

22:56 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 9f31fe8 Graham Christensen: nixos: zfs: correct the networking.hostId error message...

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22:57 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vbDhB

22:57 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/release-17.09 fe74734 Graham Christensen: nixos: zfs: correct the networking.hostId error message...

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23:08 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej closed pull request #32886: protobuf: restore version 2.5.0 (master...protobuf2_5) https://git.io/vbMu2

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23:11 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: I am tempted to switch to a language with RAII :)

23:12 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: i actually like C... you mean Rust?

23:12 <gchristensen> if you want to practice Rust I have a project you can send PRs to =)

23:13 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: do you know the cleanup attribute you can define in gcc/clang?

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23:13 <Dezgeg> ugh :P

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23:13 <yegortimoshenko> gchristensen: why not Go for the bot?

23:13 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/basic/alloc-util.h#L64

23:14 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: i don't mind free(), valgrind can check if there are problems with that, there are none

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23:14 <yegortimoshenko> but i understand. still though, this is interfacing with the kernel, and the best language for that is that of the kernel

23:15 <Dezgeg> c++ is just as fine

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23:15 <yegortimoshenko> come on...

23:15 <Dezgeg> with RAII to not need manual free()s

23:15 <gchristensen> yegortimoshenko: I don't like null pointers

23:15 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: in the error case there still several ressource leaks

23:16 <gchristensen> s/ pointers//

23:16 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: they probably don't ever matter for this short living program.

23:16 <Mic92> though

23:17 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: yes, i've only recently learned that malloc() can fail

23:17 <gchristensen> also I see enough `if err != nil` during work to not do it at home

23:17 <Dezgeg> another reason for c++ ;)

23:17 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg: c++ is an abomination

23:17 <Dezgeg> nah

23:18 <yegortimoshenko> its complexity is astounding

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23:18 <yegortimoshenko> how one can program in a language that can't be entirely understood or reasoned about?

23:18 <yegortimoshenko> i'm sorry for highly opinionated talk

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23:19 <Mic92> I guess we should stop here

23:19 <gchristensen> :)

23:20 <greglearns> NixOps cannot deploy to newest AWS EC2 instance types (m5, c5) can be fixed by explicitly setting deployment.ec2.ami = "ami-2bd87953" in your nixops files.

23:20 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: it is a bit late here in my timezone. I have left you some stuff and do the actual code review later.

23:20 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: this is literally my first c program, i was just going through the issues and wanted to drop ruby from closure, sorry about missing checks.

23:20 <yegortimoshenko> Mic92: thanks!

23:20 <Mic92> yegortimoshenko: I learned a lot about system programming in c by contributing to systemd

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23:23 <dtzWill> so I know nox-review is unmaintained and in a number of ways being replaced^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hassimilated by the borg

23:23 <dtzWill> BUT

23:24 <Mic92> I have still a rust rewrite of the same program that I never finished and started writing shortly after the issue for rewriting chrootenv was opened.

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23:24 <dtzWill> I've found nox-review is dying on large rebuilds, of all things due to memory usage of nix-build (!). I have a proposed fix, if a bit messily introduced, that I'd like to get a few eyes on briefly if folks would be so kind: https://github.com/madjar/nox/issues/84

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23:25 <dtzWill> basically don't do "nix-build -A attr1 -A attr2 -A attr3 ...." and instead "nix-build -E "with ./default.nix; [ attr1 attr2 attr3 ]"

23:26 <dtzWill> Mic92: hmm, interesting :D

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23:26 <Mic92> dtzWill: this was not meant for your problem :)

23:26 <dtzWill> Mic92: does it use libnixstore or does it invokke nix-build?

23:27 <dtzWill> Mic92: haha yeah s'all good, but rust is \o/ and maintained tool is probably >> unmaintained tool O:)

23:27 <Mic92> dtzWill: I was talking about build-fhs-userenv

23:27 <dtzWill> Mic92: oh you weren't talking to me in /any/ capacity haha I see :D

23:27 <dtzWill> my bad, thanks for the clarification O:)

23:27 <dtzWill> ...probably still interesting :D

23:27 <dtzWill> ;)

23:28 <Mic92> dtzWill: could that solve your problem? https://github.com/Mic92/pythonix

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23:28 <Mic92> basically a build() function would be missing

23:29 <dtzWill> hmmmmm

23:29 <dtzWill> not sure, will revisit after refreshing brain power. Burned out a bit chasing down /why/ nix-build om nom nom's memory when given multiple attributes

23:29 <Mic92> I only need a good regression test before I make this library part of critical infrastructure in case of breaking changes in nix itself

23:30 <dtzWill> brain still stuck deep in my understandings of nix implementation details lol

23:30 <dtzWill> great!

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23:35 <Mic92> dtzWill: is it possible to use perf to sample memory usage of the application and correlated that back to the code? Maybe that loop allocates all the memory? https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/src/nix-build/nix-build.cc#L295

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23:36 <cmiles74> I'm working on a custom module, is there an easy way to add it to my NixOS configuration? I can pull in a custom package, but I'm unclear how/if I can pull in a custom module. https://gist.github.com/cmiles74/f9cb11ad5be646884384ec1289ae533d

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23:37 <Mic92> cmiles74: imports [ ./your-module.nix ];

23:37 <Mic92> imports = [ ./your-module.nix ];

23:38 <cmiles74> Mic92: Thanks, I'm going to try that now. :-D

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23:41 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] jbedo opened pull request #32913: snpeff: 4.3p -> 4.3T (master...snpeff) https://git.io/vbyfQ

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23:41 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm force-pushed mkShell from db6136f to a5eabe9: https://git.io/vFtHA

23:41 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/mkShell a5eabe9 zimbatm: mkShell: add builder

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23:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm closed pull request #30975: mkShell: add builder (master...mkShell) https://git.io/vFtHl

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23:42 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] zimbatm deleted mkShell at a5eabe9: https://git.io/vbyJv

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23:45 <yegortimoshenko> Dezgeg, Mic92: thanks for the review!

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23:51 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbyJK

23:51 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 63af1f7 rnhmjoj: nixos/doc: document the firewall port ranges options

23:51 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master b679079 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32540 from rnhmjoj/portrange...

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23:52 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] Infinisil opened pull request #32914: znapzend service: stateless setup (master...znapzendzetup) https://git.io/vbyJM

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23:53 <infinisil> Well, hyper_ch is in bed now, but this is my PR that adds the znapzend options ^^. It adds a ton of options and I'm actually kinda proud of it :P

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23:59 <NixOS_GitHub> [nixpkgs] orivej pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbyUs

23:59 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master a49c91f Justin Bedo: snpeff: 4.3p -> 4.3t

23:59 <NixOS_GitHub> nixpkgs/master 073c403 Orivej Desh: Merge pull request #32913 from jbedo/snpeff...

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