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<andi-> Anyone with permissions to NixOS/nixos-search around? Currently the links for the 20.09 release are broken in the search results as all links point towards nixpkgs-channels. I filed a PR to fix that: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-search/pull/208
<{^_^}> nixos-search#208 (by andir, 7 minutes ago, open): Always use NixOS/nixpkgs instead of NixOS/nixpkgs-channels
<V> wait, why's -channels deprecated?
* andi- shrugs
<V> are we just using /nixpkgs now
<samueldr> it's been that way for a while
<andi-> I just overheard a few conversations here about that
<samueldr> but communication isn't the forte yet
<samueldr> andi-: let me read the PR
<samueldr> ah, trivial
<andi-> ofc, I always only do trivial stuff ;)
<samueldr> I don't think so
<andi-> samueldr: thanks!
<andi-> now I can continue with whatever it was I tried to do before
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<andi-> mhm, now that I look at the result on the website: Didn't those links previously link to the exact commit and not just the branch?
<samueldr> I think it did
<samueldr> (in my previous implementation and the one before)
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<andi-> Fixing that exceeds my current capacity. I'll open a bug.
<andi-> Actually since we are linking to nixos-XX it shouldn't really matter as that is always just a channel revision and not something that hasn't passed through hydra yet.
<bk1603[m]> qyliss: oh ok, I'll check that box then :)
<bk1603[m]> abathur: I see. I did built using this sources for the first time, but I don't know if something should depend on the gnome de itself? Anyways I'll try what you said and see what's going on. Thanks!
<abathur> there's a default desktop manager and such
<bk1603[m]> * abathur: I see. I did built using these sources for the first time, but I don't know if something should depend on the gnome de itself? Anyways I'll try what you said and see what's going on. Thanks!
<bk1603[m]> But I've set it to "none+dwm" in the configuration
<abathur> I think something like `nix why-depends `<current profile> <gnome store path>` might show the relation graph between them?
<bk1603[m]> If that's what you meant. Or is gnome like the nix default in some other way? Cause now that you mention it I don't think kde was fetched
<bk1603[m]> Oh yeah sure!
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<abathur> I mostly just meant, generically, that there are some defaults in your system closure that might be responsible (I'm not sure) for pulling them in (and sometimes dependencies creep into master between releases, though they usually get cleaned up before it's finalized)
<abathur> they might also be in the closure of stuff you have explicitly added to your packages
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<eyJhb> niksnut: always the carbon now adays! Hope it works out well, I have heard some interesting things with the X1, but I hope most is fixed by now
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<eyJhb> Unstable is really slacking behind atm.
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<eyJhb> Just throwing this out here - https://i.imgur.com/9qmykp1.png https://i.imgur.com/jMmDOO0.png the bar hides the issue created...
<samueldr> hm, I should fast track the change needed for minimum support of the new design then
<samueldr> it shouldn't really be hard
<eyJhb> samueldr: That would be lovely, I didn't know there was anything above, as I usually browse full screen :p Now I can finally track the issue
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<eyJhb> Is vcunac in any channels?
<andi-> I think he is trying to avoid sticking around in IRC because it always ends up being a timesink
<eyJhb> Makes sense, just wanted to know how the Hydra builds work, but I will just read the wiki :) (hence, why it ends up being a timesink)
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<domenkozar[m]> oh wow
<domenkozar[m]> 50 to go towards 100k issue
<niksnut> \o/
<Ericson2314> niksnut: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4114#issuecomment-704826593 does this mean you are against the PR?
<Ericson2314> I agree there are downsides, but i think it's a largely one-time cost to break up the big file
<Ericson2314> (one break in history, fix the old PRs which I'm happy to do and which are finite)
<Ericson2314> it's very similar to arguing for a stable API, which I'm really glad we don't have
<niksnut> I'm conflicted
<niksnut> it may be better to pull things out when we're changing them for some other reason
<niksnut> like the UserLock stuff in that PR I mentioned
<Ericson2314> niksnut: I was thinking I would make a bunch of changes after this
<Ericson2314> but good to get the churn out of the way
<Ericson2314> For example the `nix build --store some-binary-cache --remotes local` thing to avoid downloading things from CI unnecesarily
<Ericson2314> Also the scheduling changes for derivations that build derivations
<Ericson2314> Thirdly, the scheduling changes for dealing with the trust maps
<Ericson2314> (substituting trust maps from other stores)
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<Ericson2314> niksnut: also do you use diff3 and rerere with git? (https://github.com/Ericson2314/nixos-configuration/blob/66f0852b7ed5393d247b7d1f18f606c131cc1b51/user/git/default.nix#L20-L23) with those enabled conflicts are so much less of a pain my tolerance for this sort of code motion is greater
<niksnut> no, I'll check them out
<Ericson2314> niksnut: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised :). For example, on the merge of master into split_build_cc, git just did a *terrible* job, I'll admit, but `diff3` made it much more readily apparent that git was confused so I could go immediately to fixing by hand. `rerere` in turn should help remember my resolution for the next build.cc conflict
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<gchristensen> "Any polkit rules to be added to config (in JavaScript ;-)." that parenthetical is probably not really needed :)
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<andi-> Which javascript engine is polkit using?
<andi-> I see, spidermonkey (60)
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<das_j> Wait Polkit has a JS parser?
<qyliss> Polkit rules are all expressed in JS
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<V> every modern linux system includes spidermonkey
<gchristensen> I do like spiders
<V> delicious
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<red[evilred]> end-user configured javascript
<red[evilred]> I guess I'm the only person on Earth who thinks that having javascript in your authentication process is nuts?
<gchristensen> no
<V> nope
<V> they could have at least gone for coffeescript
<red[evilred]> Well that's good to hear
<gchristensen> heh
<red[evilred]> umm
<V> ReasonML if they're feeling hip
<red[evilred]> no :-)
<red[evilred]> LISP
<red[evilred]> :-)
<V> nah malbolge
<red[evilred]> I still intend to write "APL Flavoured Erlang"
<red[evilred]> for April 1st one year
<gchristensen> malbolge definitely has the properties you'd expect out of an authentication DSL
<V> make it malbolge and allow anyone to add rules
<red[evilred]> just got to get the compiler to allow unicode and emjois as function and module names
<V> if they can write something useful then they sure as hell deserve to have root on your system
<gchristensen> "you can if you can"
<red[evilred]> oh, gchristensen (IRC) - I may be afk a little more often than normal this week due to family vacation - so if you have an update to our /query it may take a little longer for me to reply.
<red[evilred]> thank you in advance for thy patience
<gchristensen> aye cool, thank *you* :)
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<Luciole> red[evilred]: careful, people might like that
<Luciole> APL flavoured erlang I mean
<red[evilred]> Luciole (IRC): I confess - I'm tickled with the idea
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<red[evilred]> I just love the idea of starting a bunch of 😀 under 🧑‍🏫
<red[evilred]> (ie, GenServers under Supervisors)
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