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<arianvp>
gchristensen: did you ever pick an office hour from that doodle?
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<gchristensen>
arianvp: worldofpeace and I have been working on it (worldofpeace more than I am :x). I got spooked by how many people replied, so ... still working through it :)
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<qyliss^work>
How many people replied??
<Profpatsch>
gchristensen: Was there a writeup about what the goals of the office hour are? Multiple people could do them in rotation.
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<samueldr>
it could also be ressources contention
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<samueldr>
hmm, seems there are two chefs in the dashboard?
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<samueldr>
though, visually, Free Memory doesn't look too different lately compared to the last 30 days, so maybe at the cusp
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<worldofpeace>
I have lots of things wrote up about the community call if people would like to know. I can tell them what I had in mind of the purpose if they'd like too.
<worldofpeace>
Profpatsch: rotation and having volunteers will be needed in order have a successful event
<infinisil>
Maybe I'm a bit ignorant here, but what's there to organize for a shared call in a community?
<worldofpeace>
pardon? do mean what's there to do so far to actually have it?
<infinisil>
worldofpeace: I guess yeah
<infinisil>
I have no idea what's there to organize before this could be done, other than maybe what platform to use
<infinisil>
And the time
<worldofpeace>
need to distribute a form, make an announcement, have a public agenda for what's going to happen in the call, concrete the roles of those involved and how that will look like, need a moderator. we'd like to record it and live stream it. not sure about the platform yet but probably zoom
<infinisil>
Hmm, seems a bit excessive for a start imo
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<worldofpeace>
but what i've listed is pretty much done...
<worldofpeace>
and that's not all needed to start
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<Profpatsch>
Hm, Zoom is kinda proprietary.
<Profpatsch>
No chance to use an open platform, like Jitsi?
<Profpatsch>
I think fpletz knows how well that works.
<gchristensen>
they're all terrible
<gchristensen>
zoom seems less unreliable?
<Profpatsch>
If so, we can use the free one, can’t we :)
<Profpatsch>
Especially since nixpkgs doesn’t evaluate non-free packages by default, it seems a bit strange to use a non-free software for community events.
<samueldr>
maybe a commitment to look into using the Free ones, while pragmatically starting things with lower friction with the call process?
<infinisil>
Profpatsch: I had a single experience with the jitsi plugin for matrix, and it was really bad. Maybe the website is different though
<infinisil>
(multi-person calls on riot.im/app)
* samueldr
wonders how important the video part is
<infinisil>
If it's not, mumble would work pretty well
<samueldr>
and relatedly, whether murmur (mumble server) would fit the bill in that situation
<samueldr>
infinisil: >:|
<samueldr>
though I guess that for geographical purposes, it might need two
<infinisil>
Well you still need to transfer the voices, can't speed that up with two servers
<gchristensen>
you can
<infinisil>
Hmm, you mean that people near you hear your voice faster than others?
<samueldr>
sure, but you're receiving all NA stuff at one point, and then transitting them all to EU from that one location
<samueldr>
nah, it still needs to go to the server
<samueldr>
but imagine if the server was in new york
<samueldr>
your delays would be terrible!
<gchristensen>
a server in London, a server in NYC, connected by private network. everybody talks to their local server, and syncs over the private (fast) connection
<samueldr>
routing wouldn't necessarily be good
<samueldr>
like gchristensen explained better :)
<infinisil>
gchristensen: Ah I see
<gchristensen>
it is not uncommon I'll be on a video meeting with a bunch of EU people, and I'll be the only one with delay
<infinisil>
And murmur (or any other mumble server) has support for multiple servers like that?
<samueldr>
IIRC it does
<samueldr>
I think the main drawback would be lack of video / screen sharing...
<samueldr>
screen sharing might be the real kicker