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<samueldr> well... it stopped updating
<samueldr> (nothing left!)
<gchristensen> :)
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<edef> hmm, i'm biased towards merging https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/60279, but i'm somewhat biased because it fixes a crash bug that i discovered
<{^_^}> #60279 (by dtzWill, 4 days ago, open): editline: fix crash with term narrower than completions
<samueldr> gave my opinion about the PR, I think it all hinges on whether they release soon or not
<edef> mm, okay
<edef> added my proposal to just see what's up in two weeks and merge if we don't learn more by then
<samueldr> sounds about right
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<dtz> if we can merge it when we're rebuilding all-the-things *anyway* I think it wouldn't hurt
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<dtz> but I'm perhaps biased as well :innocent:
<dtz> in the meantime I think we should start a crowd-funding campaign to buy edef a few more terminal cells :P
<edef> haha
* edef thinks she can fit enough of 'em on 3840x2160 pixels
<edef> i just tend to tile heavily enough that i run into these things easily
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<dtz> aw man that is a lot of pixels, haha
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<edef> hmm, i'm finding myself wishing for a way to tell fetchgit *which* submodules to fetch
<edef> this driven by waiting for freetype to clone as a submodule in the full knowledge that i won't use that code at all, because it's linking to system code
<Taneb> domenkozar[m]: looks pretty good!
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<edef> somewhat surprised we have strace in the default system path
<edef> i guess we depend on perl in enough places that it's just the megabyte from strace itself
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<domenkozar[m]> Taneb: thanks
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<andi-> edef: I think it is a sane thing to ship strace... I very often resort to strace before attaching debuggers. It is language agnostic :-)
<Taneb> Sane, but perhaps unexpected
<andi-> Why unexpected? It was always amongst the first things I'd install on any system..
<Taneb> With NixOS I expect to have very little installed that I haven't explicitly asked for
<gchristensen> I think that is a common expectation
<gchristensen> once perl is out of the standard nixos closure anyway, other tools might be up for reconsideration
<andi-> I am all for a smaller base system / less "magic" pulling in packages that the user didn't ask for :-)
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<Synthetica> Is there a reason `trace` isn't exported from `lib.debug`?
<andi-> Synthetica: it is a builtin?
<andi-> > builtins.trace "foo" "bar"
<{^_^}> "bar"
<Synthetica> andi-: Sure, but that doesn't `lib.lists` from re-exporting builtins: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/lib/lists.nix#L10
<andi-> Synthetica: I believe some of those might be for backwards compatibility. Since they might have been introduced in nixpkgs before they were a builtin.
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<edef> andi-: i definitely want strace on most of my systems, it was just surprising to realise it *wasn't* in my configs
<andi-> :-)
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<andi-> so `fetchcargo` produces different output hashes depending on the platform is it being run on.. It is supposed to be a fixed output derivation :/ It just never surfaced since Nix happily fetches an already cached version from the cache. Is that a known fact and I just missed it?
<gchristensen> hmm
<gchristensen> darwin vs. linux?
<gchristensen> probably a utf8 normalization problem
<andi-> gchristensen: aarch64-linux vs x86_64-linux
<gchristensen> wat
<andi-> I created #60668 for it
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/60668 (by andir, 44 minutes ago, open): buildRustCrate: Different "fixed-output" hashes on x86_64-linux and aarch64-linux
<gchristensen> :/
<andi-> It randomly flipped for me on linux as well a few days ago. I was reviewing that rust-cbindgen PR and a few days ago the hash sum wouldn't match.. I tried again today and it did match. Turns out it is not just that single package. It is a few of the buildRustPackage packages..
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<averell> i get that hashfail with cbindgen on linux right now too, so maybe it's some other flakyness.
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<andi-> meh
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