gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-chat to: NixOS but much less topical || https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-chat
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<Myhlamaeus> iqubic: Combining org-mode with ledger is supposedly great
<iqubic> I don't know what ledger is. I think it's something to do with finance.
<Myhlamaeus> It's like GNUCash
<iqubic> I don't know what that is either.
<Myhlamaeus> Is the spreadsheet thing the "built-in table editor"?
<Myhlamaeus> ledger is an accounting program
<iqubic> Myhlamaeus: Yes. That's what I'm referring to.
<Myhlamaeus> I've lately been looking into pass/gopass
<iqubic> But org-mode gives you the ability to do cool things.
<iqubic> Like you can write a function in some arbitrary programming language X (org supports many) and then have some of the fields of your spreadsheet be defined in terms of that function.
<iqubic> Like you can say, the third column in each row is equal to function FOO called with the first and second column numbers as inputs.
<Myhlamaeus> That sounds almost like literate programming
<Myhlamaeus> Oh, that actually sounds like Excel/Calc again
<iqubic> Yeah.
<iqubic> You can do literate programming in Org-Mode really easily.
<iqubic> If you want to look into that I recommend reading up on org-babel.
<Myhlamaeus> It's really easy to go down the rabbit hole on Linux, huh?
<iqubic> Yes. Yes it is.
<iqubic> But the crazy thing is that this is all just Org-Mode.
<iqubic> The built in emacs calculator has just as many awesome features too.
<Myhlamaeus> ...
<Myhlamaeus> Gotta try embedding some LaTeX in my org files
<iqubic> Yeah. That's an awesome thing to do.
<Myhlamaeus> I've seen that there's a "TeX input mode" in emacs through which one can eg input \lambda to insert the lambda symbol
<iqubic> Myhlamaeus: See this:
<Myhlamaeus> I've simultaneously found the same page
<Myhlamaeus> Why have I ever even used something other than emacs?
<iqubic> I don't know.
<iqubic> I basically live in Emacs nowadays. I use EXWM as my window manager.
<iqubic> Which is basically fullscreen emacs + X Windows turn into Emacs Buffers.
<Myhlamaeus> I'm somewhat reluctant to switch away from Xmonad after I've finally set it up...
<iqubic> You don't need to switch.
<iqubic> But you should.
<Myhlamaeus> No, I absolutely do need to switch
<iqubic> Why?
<Myhlamaeus> Because emacs
<iqubic> Ah. I see.
<Myhlamaeus> I see no reason *not* to live in emacs
<iqubic> Well, having a single threaded WM is sometimes not fun.
<iqubic> Emacs currently has no support for Threads.
<Myhlamaeus> Well, home-manager makes switching back quite easy
<iqubic> Like if you start a long running computation in Emacs, and don't have a way to stop it, then your whole WM is blocked.
<iqubic> But fortunately I've only had that happen a total of twice to me in the year or so I've been on EXWM.
<Myhlamaeus> I'd guess that one could also kill the process from a different VT
<iqubic> Yeah.
<iqubic> But this sort of thing is rather rare.
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<andi-> Is there some better version of the GitHub Issue and PR view? I would like to have pinned searches much like folders in a Mail client that show unread PRs/Mails.
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* jD91mZM2 is setting up ZNC :)
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<infinisil> jD91mZM2: Feel free to ask me if you need help
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<ixxie> gchristensen: were you involved with setting Travis for nixpkgs
<gchristensen> like .travis.yml's nix support?
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<ixxie> well not in particular
<ixxie> I am just trying to learn the basics and deploy to a VM via SSH
<ixxie> but #travis doesn't respond at all xD
<ixxie> gchristensen: it seems surprisingly difficult to find this very basic information
<gchristensen> gotcha
<gchristensen> this is actually more on-topic for #nixos :)
<ixxie> lol
<ixxie> well I am really interested in Travis for deploying docker stuff so not Nix related
<gchristensen> aye
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<infinisil> I'm not sure what to think of this rant linked in https://weekly.nixos.org/2019/05-cachix-private-caches-termux-artwork-for-19-03-a-rant.html
<infinisil> It's really uninformed and just tries to put Nix down
<Taneb> A prompt for a counterpost?
<infinisil> They seem to put it down without explanations really
<infinisil> If I had a blog maybe :P
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<goibhniu> It's quite funny :D
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<infinisil> In a way..
<infinisil> The only valid point imo is documentation, but everybody knew that already
<infinisil> And the cloud support thing I guess
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<joepie91> repost here: [17:44] <joepie91> anybody else here using VS Code on 18.09 stable, and if yes, is it still working for you with the latest version?
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<colemickens> Looking for suggestions for DNS providers that aren't going to hose me
<joepie91> colemickens: what went wrong previously at what provider?
<colemickens> I had free credit somewhere that I no longer want to do business. I had previously used CloudFlare which doesn't seem to be a company I want to support either.
<colemickens> GoDaddy and others are bad because they transfer domains when they shouldn't, or have knee jerk reactions to LEA
<joepie91> colemickens: I can't speak for how they handle LEA, but I've been hosting my DNS at dns.he.net for years now, and aside from falling over for a day every few years or so, it's perfectly reliable
<joepie91> and they're an ethically-behaving company by most people's standards :)
<joepie91> (my only minor gripe would be their habit of quoting different prices to different customers, but them being B2B that's probably excusable)
<joepie91> (and doesn't affect their DNS service)
<joepie91> note that they -only- do DNS, they don't do domain registration
<joepie91> I have my domains at internetbs.net, which I can't say I have any complaints about, and at least in the past they've been rather un-social-engineerable
<joepie91> basically telling some would-be hijackers to piss off unless they can present an ID scan, though in more polite wording
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<manveru> colemickens: still using http://nearlyfreespeech.net/
<manveru> since... 2010 or so, been pretty solid so far, and they stick to the awesome 90s design :)
<ldlework> hehe
<ldlework> i use gandi.net but i don't remember why and just login to renew every year or so
<manveru> i use gandi for .at/.de domains
<manveru> but they keep updating shit and redesigning their UI every year or so :|
<manveru> OTOH there's a terraform provider for it now, so i don't have to care much anymore
<manveru> damn, elixir really screwed me over :(
<manveru> thought i had the perfect solution for doing yarn2nix style nix-shells from the mix.lock file...
<manveru> but turns out that indirect optional dependencies become required ones if you compile them on their own, and they're not mentioned in the mix.lock, which means i don't have a hash for them :'(
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<ldlework> manveru: the ui changes do seem to be improvements though
<ldlework> not a bad thing for a registar ime
<manveru> the usability during the transition was painful
<manveru> i agree it's much faster and easier now that they're fully on react
<joepie91> vokoscreen++
<joepie91> only one bug I ran into, it silently fails to save if you store the video in a non-existent folder
<joepie91> otherwise it works perfectly
<manveru> oh, i think i found the issue... all those env vars set in the buildMix derivations aren't recognized by elixir anymore :P
<colemickens> gandi is my registrar and I'm okay with them. I still remember the old UI and it was more functional, imo. Worked more in line with my expectations about the web/state/opening stuff in new tabs/etc.
<colemickens> NFS is perfect, somehow everytime I remember them I'm surprised they're still around. :)
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