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<gchristensen>
the NixOS Foundation has applied for a transition ki
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<thefloweringash>
oooh that sounds like fun
<gchristensen>
we'll need to figure out the best way to broker access to it
<LnL>
oh, I was wondering if that would be a good idea
<gchristensen>
I hope you think it is :)
<LnL>
would be good to take a look at what's needed sooner rather then later
<gchristensen>
how about we get you a VNC session straight away? :)
<LnL>
and I have some mixed feelings about the whole thing so not exactly jumping to spend money on a dev kit just for that
<gchristensen>
yea
<LnL>
what's the plan for access, etc?
<gchristensen>
not sure
<LnL>
(also hoping I won't be the only one working on it)
<gchristensen>
agreed
<LnL>
but to get started I'm pretty curious about rozetta
<LnL>
the way it's described kind of sounds like it's only for application bundles
<gchristensen>
yeah :(
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<LnL>
slightly related (but not really)
<LnL>
what are your thoughts on changing the store prefix?
<gchristensen>
oof
<gchristensen>
I *really* don't like the idea
<LnL>
I don't really want to change it if it's only darwin, but on the other hand this would be the least impactful point to do it
<LnL>
in what way?
<evelyn>
are they locking down macOS further with big sur or can you still install programs outside the app store?
<Mic92>
I don't think they are that crazy yet to kill homebrew etc.
<Mic92>
However they might lock down the bootloader
<gchristensen>
they're waiting for us to kill homebrew (heyo)
<Mic92>
Right now homebrew is still less hassle to install...
<Mic92>
To be honest
<gchristensen>
yeah they're still waiting
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<thefloweringash>
My friend installed the Big Sur beta and nix on it. The volume creation script didn’t quite work, and the linker didn’t seem to work building hello with —check, but pre-built neovim ran
<abathur>
I stumbled on the thread where he's discussing it with the collaborator on accident while I was trying to track down people who griped about nix+travis-ci breaks in public to let them know it was working; the commands discussed just have bare curl; don't have time to dig deeper or PR atm
<LnL>
I haven't really been following that, has there been a new nix release since?
<LnL>
manual might just not have been updated yet
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<abathur>
I'm not really in the loop either, I gather at some point the install url turned into a redirect but all references from docs and cli-help/-error haven't been ferreted out and updated
<abathur>
I saw it float by when it happened, but I haven't done an install in the past several days so I didn't realize macOS/darwin instructions were dangling
<abathur>
wonder how hard it would be to have a cron job test that pulls down homepage/docs from the live site and tries to follow the install instructions (plus a trivial build that might flush out misconfig?) on a slate of supposedly-supported environments
<abathur>
or if that already happens, but newest macOS just isn't included so it doesn't squeak
<Mic92>
abathur: every github action does this more or less
<abathur>
Mic92 I get that everything that works is using `curl -L`, but I don't have much perspective on how/when it became necessary (I see that install-nix-action adopted this 3 months ago) nor exactly how/why references in the docs fell through the cracks
<abathur>
not that others don't, just that it's not in my bucket of knowledge
<abathur>
in any case, not a statement about CI as much as about making sure the installer is installable from all of the human-facing documentation the project is in direct control of at least (ignoring the blog posts and bootstraps and such out there)
<abathur>
so that we aren't slowly burning goodwill by repeately letting people's first attempt to use Nix be marred by install failures again and again
<Mic92>
abathur: i meant testing the isntaller
<abathur>
mic92 nod
<Mic92>
abathur: I will fix the manual though
<abathur>
there may also be some references in command feedback
<abathur>
I don't mind PRing something later in any case; just still on the clock for a while longer