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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71876 → spdlog: 1.3.1 -> 1.4.2 → https://git.io/Je0RF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #71796 → nodejs-10_x: 10.16.3 -> 10.17.0 → https://git.io/Je0I9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #71869 → riemann: 0.3.3 -> 0.3.4 → https://git.io/Je0B9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71877 → snapper: 0.8.3 -> 0.8.5 → https://git.io/Je00e
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71878 → strawberry: 0.6.3 -> 0.6.5 → https://git.io/Je00m
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rardiol opened pull request #71879 → widelands: 19 -> 20 → https://git.io/Je00C
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rardiol opened pull request #71880 → hedgewars: 1.0.0-beta2 -> 1.0.0 → https://git.io/Je00W
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #71479 → conftest: Remove sumdb override now that #34866 is merged → https://git.io/JeRvO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigok opened pull request #71881 → doc: fix tiny typo → https://git.io/Je00a
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71883 → s3backer: 1.5.2 -> 1.5.4 → https://git.io/Je00F
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<kaliumxyz> ok I got semi-working completion now for attributes on the system and packages, need to clean things up still :c
<kaliumxyz> etu one cool thing you can do is use a background process of `nix repl` and load nixpkgs to get completion for pkgs and the stdlib c:
<leo__> nixops doesn't work with ssh keyboard-interactive?
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<leo__> Which means no ssh - google-auth etc - 2fa support. .-.
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<rardiol> I'm trying to fix qpdfview. qmakeFlags has a "*.pro" item, but it disappears somewhere before reaching execution. Is there a way to call qmake with the glob without writing down every .pro file manually?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71884 → sourceHighlight: 3.1.8 -> 3.1.9 → https://git.io/Je0EZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71885 → swaks: 20181104.0 -> 20190914.0 → https://git.io/Je0EW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #71886 → gitAndTools.delta: 0.0.12 -> 0.0.14 → https://git.io/Je0Ew
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<fresheyeball> looks like nixpkgs.torch is broken :(
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<fresheyeball> anyone out there using torch in nixos?
<DigitalKiwi> all of my torches are on the shelf
<fresheyeball> DigitalKiwi: nice handle
<DigitalKiwi> thanks
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* DigitalKiwi may also have analogkiwi and codekiwi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #71844 → xhyve: upgrade to 20191001 → https://git.io/Je0cD
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<fresheyeball> god damnits
DigitalKiwi is now known as AnalogKiwi
<fresheyeball> AnalogKiwi: wat?
AnalogKiwi is now known as DigitalKiwi
<DigitalKiwi> now i do
<fresheyeball> I have become fused with corn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rardiol opened pull request #71887 → qpdfview: hardcode qmake files → https://git.io/Je0Ex
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #71857 → q-text-as-data: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.4 → https://git.io/Je08W
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stites opened pull request #71889 → protobuf: add version 3.10 → https://git.io/Je0uR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stites opened pull request #71890 → tensorflow-tensorboard: 1.14.0 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Je0u7
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<Guest84> hi hi. So I'm installing NixOS on a KVM and apparentl the ISO has been 'mounted'. I believe on reboot the KVM will run the NIXOS installation media. My question is, does the default installation media have ssh enabled ? (and what is the root password?)
<Guest84> I've linked the release I'm using
<buckley310> the live ISOs should have SSH available but not starting on boot
<buckley310> so you would need to run `systemctl start sshd` after the ISO boots up
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<buckley310> just checked, the root account on the live ISO has a blank password, so you would need to set one before SSHD will allow root logins
<Guest84> Thanks. I only have access to the machine through ssh so i'm out of luck but the information was useful to know. Thank you. :)
<buckley310> rolling your own ISO is surprisingly easy, though im not sure how to set it up with SSH on boot...
<Guest84> I seem to recall that the manual mentions a way to do that (with prepackaged software and services). I'll probably just download the iso inside existing distro and install nixos `in place`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chkno opened pull request #71891 → vimPlugins.vader-vim: init at 2019-05-18 → https://git.io/Je0zD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #71277 → coqPackages_8_10.ltac2: init at 0.3 → https://git.io/Je4zX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #71704 → coqPackages.coq-bits: init at 20190812 → https://git.io/JeRdQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @Ptival to master « coqPackages.coq-bits: init at 20190812 »: https://git.io/Je0g3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #71833 → boomerang: 0.4.X -> 0.5.1, various fixes and cleanups → https://git.io/Je0ZF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71881 → doc: fix tiny typo → https://git.io/Je00a
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @stigok to master « doc: fix tiny typo »: https://git.io/Je0gc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #71892 → ocamlPackages.sawja: 1.5.6 → 1.5.7 → https://git.io/Je0gC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71780 → Staging next → https://git.io/Je0U9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #71840 → bibata-extra-cursors,bibata-cursors-translucent: init (git revs) → https://git.io/Je0no
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<Ariakenom> is there a way to pull in standard packages into nix-shell --pure?
<Ariakenom> like what would be available on a new ubuntu install
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71841 → python37Packages.plac: 1.0.0 -> 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Je0nh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #70283 → gst-plugins-base: apply patch for CVE-2019-9928 → https://git.io/JecYW
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<Ariakenom> running "nix-shell --pure -p python37 awscli terraform" "python3" "import subprocess" breaks due to PYTHONPATH contatining enum34 and breaking python37. happens on my colleague's mint nix install but not on my nixos
<Ariakenom> D:
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<Ariakenom> the PYTHONPATH is only python 2.7 paths
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<pingu_> Is there no list cons in nix? i.e. a -> [a] -> [a]
<pingu_> It makes me sad to wrap things in singleton lists.
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<FRidh> ariakenom: do not use `nix-shell`, use `nix run`
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<Ariakenom> FRidh: ok thanks. explanation pls
<FRidh> nix-shell mimics the build environment, and thus runs any setup hooks that have been declared. Python packages come with python which has a hook, that sets PYTHONPATH, and breaks your stuff. nix run does not mimic the build env and thus does not execute the hooks
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<Ariakenom> FRidh: can I do the same as --pure?
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<FRidh> ariakenom: unfortunately not
<Ariakenom> I should say what I want to do. I want to check that I have specified all the dependencies of my app
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<FRidh> ah wait
<FRidh> there is
<FRidh> ignore-environment
<FRidh> I did not know that :)
<FRidh> nix run --help
<Ariakenom> yes. I was unsure how it compares
<Ariakenom> is there an easy way to bring in packages similar to a fresh ubuntu install?
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<kaliumxyz> anyone has this working? https://github.com/PsyanticY/nixops-container
<kaliumxyz> I can't get deployments to containers working
<mdash> ariakenom: typically you'd write a nix expression for the thing you want to run
<mdash> and list its dependencies in buildInputs
<Ariakenom> mdash: is there an example for nix run? my nix-shell default.nix breaks while complaining about $run. when I try to run it with nix run
<Ariakenom> complaining about $src sry
<mdash> ariakenom: you shouldn't be using nix run for that, probably.
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<mdash> probably just use `nix build` and run from result/
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<cyris212> Is there a way to access the path of the current working directory through nix?
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<cyris212> I would like export an absolute path as environment variable in a shell.nix file.
<Ariakenom> I want an interactive environment with some packages installed. optionally some initialization bash sourced
<Ariakenom> should I nix-build for that?
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<FRidh> whatever you `nix-build`, you can `nix-run`
<FRidh> `nix build` `nix run`
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<kaliumxyz> ok I think I got it, you just make a container yourself and deploy to that as if its a nixos machine
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<kaliumxyz> Failed assertions:
<kaliumxyz> - The ‘fileSystems’ option does not specify your root file system.
<kaliumxyz> - You must set the option ‘boot.loader.grub.devices’ or 'boot.loader.grub.mirroredBoots' to make the system bootable.
<kaliumxyz> ugh..
<kaliumxyz> hmm..
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<Ariakenom> FRidh: my default.nix that used to work with nix-shell doesnt work with nix run. so i was asking for nix run examples
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<FRidh> ariakenom: with import <nixpkgs> {}; [ python3 python2 hello ]
<FRidh> just a list works
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<Ariakenom> FRidh: thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #71749 → chromium: 77.0.3865.120 -> 78.0.3904.70 → https://git.io/Je0vW
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<gchristensen> PRs by package maintainers, where the PR is not adding a new package
<kaliumxyz> fsck
<kaliumxyz> >run activate in result from nixops-container
<kaliumxyz> >deletes my user account
<kaliumxyz> can I roll back from this?
<kaliumxyz> [1] kalium@nix> su root ~
<kaliumxyz> su: Cannot determine your user name.
<kaliumxyz> this is midly annoying
<FRidh> gchristensen: the ones we hope they one day can merge themselves. Not that many, when compared with the 1600 open.
<kaliumxyz> it appears I cannot do anything.
<kaliumxyz> Maybe I deserve this for being upset at the lack of containers as working nixops deployment targets.
<kaliumxyz> How do I fix this?
<gchristensen> I think you can do it via areboot?
<kaliumxyz> Sure, I can always just bypass the OS entirely and change data on the disk.
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<gchristensen> I mean a bootloader level rollback
<kaliumxyz> I'd rather recover somehow, though I cannot think of any way.
<kaliumxyz> Yes, maybe?
<kaliumxyz> not sure, userdata is mutable but my user is declared in the configuration
<kaliumxyz> so it should work.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #71893 → Python packages set: major updates → https://git.io/Je02i
<kaliumxyz> ok well I have no choice anyways, there is no other user I can log into unless I gave root a password.
<kaliumxyz> turns out I did give root a password
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<kaliumxyz> ok rerolled to current profile
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<kaliumxyz> that worked.
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<kaliumxyz> thank god I'm on nix.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau opened pull request #71894 → home-manager: 2019-09-20 -> 2019-10-23 → https://git.io/Je02M
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<bahamas> I'm going through this tutorial https://vaibhavsagar.com/blog/2019/08/22/industrial-strength-deployments/ and I'm now trying to run deploy.sh. the difference between my setup and his is that I'm using Vultr. so, during the build I get this error: "error: a 'x86_64-linux' with features {kvm} is required to build '/nix/store/dpvbljlw76gzzvvzp3bczi15n0ljiilb-nixos-boot-disk.drv', but I am a 'x86_64-linux'
<bahamas> with features {benchmark, big-parallel, nixos-test}". how can I go around it?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh closed pull request #71458 → pythonPackages.pybids: 0.9.2 -> 0.9.4 → https://git.io/JeBFK
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<bahamas> I'm running the command inside a NixOS vm created with virtualbox
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<Ariakenom> is there an easy way to bring in packages into "nix run" similar to a fresh ubuntu install?
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<mthst> on boot, my old thinkpad complains that 'the non-volatile variable storage is about full'. how can i safely remove efi variables when they are no longer needed?
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<loka> Hi all, is there a way to determine if *this* config is going to be used to build a vm?
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<Taneb> I had my first experience being asked to review a PR for a package I maintain by r-ryantm last night. The experience was pleasant.
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<notgne2> I did nix-store --optimize on one of my machines, but now have trouble identifying what the largest store paths are, is there a way to un-optimize?
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<das_j> what is the nix 2.0 equvivalent of nix-store --realise?
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<pingiun> can I give a nixos container a public IP address, seperate from the host machine?
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<__monty__> How public? My nspwan containers have their own IPs on the LAN.
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<pingiun> __monty__: I am renting an extra public IP at hetzner, I want to point it to a container
<pingiun> seems like the same setup
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<edef> yeah, it'll be routed at your machine's primary interface
<edef> __monty__'s setup should work for you
<edef> i'd offer help but i recently moved my spare IPs onto a Hetzner vSwitch and now nothing works :D:
<__monty__> My setup's not using nix. All I did to get sensible container networking is enable system-networkd.
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<FRidh> das_j: you could just use `nix build`, as it accepts both expressions and paths
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<joehh> how do you find out what release a nixos machine is on?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @exFalso opened pull request #71899 → build-support/rust: Add target option → https://git.io/Je0wM
<infinisil> joehh: nixos-version
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<tokudan[m]> joehh: or /etc/os-release
<tokudan[m]> I saw that some urls in meta.homepage are now quoted again in nixpkgs, while I believe I saw someone unquoting them some months ago. is there any reason for that or a clear style wether URLs should be quotes or not?
<das_j> FRidh: thanks
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<pingiun> how can I nix-shell a default.nix that expects a callPackage?
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<immae> pingiun: you can use the --arg to specify each value of the function, or you can do something like `-Ifoo=$(pwd)/default.nix -E "(import <nixpkgs> {}).callPackage <foo> {}"` (untested)
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<pingiun> i am building my own derivation and want to do something similar to nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A pan
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<pingiun> to manually test if cmake is going to work
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<simpson> pingiun: $ nix-shell -p pan
<pingiun> that is something different right?
<simpson> I personally use the REPL. $(nix repl '<nixpkgs>') and then ask the repl about `pan`.
<pingiun> hmm
<pingiun> but I'm not trying to build pan, but something that is not in nixpkgs yet
<simpson> You're adding to nixpkgs, right? Or is this standalone?
<pingiun> this is standalone
<simpson> Oh. Then just $(nix-build) right?
<pingiun> error: cannot auto-call a function that has an argument without a default value
<pingiun> because I want to use dependencies from nixpkgs
<pingiun> or do I use a with statement in that case?
<infinisil> tokudan[m]: rfcs#45
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/45 (by 7c6f434c, 25 weeks ago, open): [RFC 0045] Deprecating unquoted URL syntax
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<simpson> Start your file with `{ nixpkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }:`
<simpson> That'll let you default to the ambient nixpkgs, while also allowing overriding for whatever purpose.
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<__monty__> Am I right in understanding that happy-1.19.9 is attempted to be built locally in this error? http://ix.io/1ZHQ
<__monty__> The local machine is 32bit. The remote builder is 64bit but should be able to build 32bit.
<pingiun> simpson: can I still use dependencies as arguments in that case?
<pingiun> as in { stdenv }:
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<pingiun> ah nix-build just builds the package of course
<pingiun> but is there a way to nix-shell to an environment that has all the dependencies for a package I want to build?
<pingiun> so instead of running the default builder, dropping me into a shell which would have the environment of the builder?
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<l33[m]> There is
<l33[m]> Yeah
<simpson> Yes; I think just replace nix-build with nix-shell. https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-nix-shell
<l33[m]> Im hoping to get a course up on that soon
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<l33[m]> I need to talk to the nix gods on the beet practise
<l33[m]> You have this notion of pure and unpure build shells too
<l33[m]> To add even more fun to the mix
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<pingiun> it's a bit confusing for me
<__monty__> pingiun: nix-shell -A attribute will get you a shell like you describe,
<pingiun> which attribute tho?
<tokudan[m]> infinisil: thanks!
<__monty__> pingiun: The package you want an environment for.
<pingiun> the package is not in nixpkgs because I am using a local file
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<__monty__> Ah, then simply invoking nix-shell in the directory with your default.nix should work.
<pingiun> but then if I cd $src, I cannot write to the director
<pingiun> so I cannot test anythign
<clever> pingiun: the unpackPhase will cpy $src to .
<clever> pingiun: so you want to run `unpackPhase`
<pingiun> hmm
<pingiun> okay
<pingiun> yes that works, thanks
<pingiun> :)
<simpson> pingiun: You may find that this low-level debugging of your derivation only needs to happen a few times, and only to solve relatively trivial problems; after a while, you hopefully won't need to continually manually examine an unpacked src.
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<__monty__> I should probably do it *more*. I've resorted to println style debugging so far...
<pingiun> simpson: this was the first time I'm building a (cmake) package and I wanted to check if I got all the dependencies right
<pingiun> I read the nix pills and everything, but I was not sure the cmake stuff was going to work automagically
<pingiun> it did work automagically though ;)
<pingiun> I can imagine I could make my life easier by using a local nixpkgs tree, no?
<simpson> If you intend to contribute to nixpkgs, then it's practically necessary.
<pingiun> for now I just wanted to test eternalterminal.dev on my server
<pingiun> I see that there are very many PRs for nixpkgs, is it still doable to get something like this into nixpkgs as a noobie?
<simpson> Yes. It depends on the quality of the PR, how many people want/use it, and whether it is easy to maintain over time.
<pingiun> hmm okay
<__monty__> Very. I've gotten PRs accepted pretty speedily.
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<pingiun> another thing, how do package name clashes work? should I come up with something else than et for this? (there already is a package called et in nixpkgs)
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<pingiun> there are no namespaces right?
<__monty__> Basically, yeah.
<red[m]> Nix is pretty liberal with their package acceptance
<red[m]> There are some namespaces, but none that would apply to you I don’t think
<simpson> `eternalterminal` or `eternal-terminal` seem reasonable to me. `et` is right out; short binaries do not mean short package names.
<red[m]> Eg: xorg, pythonPackages etc...
<simpson> Sometimes there are mangled names. My favorite is `kubernetes-helm`, which is not `helm`.
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<FRidh> heh yea that one surprised me when I was giving a quick demo to colleagues...got a bit different helm executable
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<pingiun> should nixos services and new nixpkgs be submitted in a seperate PR? the nixos service would depend on the nixpkgs of course
<pingiun> s/of course/in this case/
<pingiun> nice, I'm going to try it
<mbrgm> palo: q
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<pingiun> what are the -small channels?
<red[m]> Smaller list of packages
<__monty__> So they move faster.
<red[m]> Basically, people follow “channels”
<red[m]> And channels are updated when everything builds correctly
<red[m]> So, small channels tend to break less as they have less systemd dependencies
* red[m] ducks
* fling quacks
<etu> Small channels have the same packages as other channels -- but it's small is the sense that we run fewer tests before moving those channels forward.
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<__monty__> Do they move faster than the cache?
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<red[m]> They reflect the cache as I understand it, but check with etu as I misunderstood something earlier
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<__monty__> If they're less strict about builds passing I suspect that they advance before everything's cached. That's probably kind of the point.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #71696 → mkvtoolnix: 37.0.0 -> 38.0.0 → https://git.io/JeR59
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<Orbstheorem> How would I go to override the end of the buildCommand of a haskell package? I'm building a stack package using cabal2nix (for local development). So far, I use the output derivation of my backage as a build input of yet another package that only does makeWrapper ${drv}/bin/dodo $out/bin/dodo, but I'd like to use wrapProgram instead. Also, by doing this, I cannot do mkShell {inputsFrom=(callPackage
<Orbstheorem> ./default.nix {})}.
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<Orbstheorem> s/backage/package/
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<sphalerite> __monty__: yes, exactly. They're conditional on the boot tests passing for instance, but not the desktop tests.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp opened pull request #71904 → perlPackages.CryptOpenSSLX509: init at 1.812 → https://git.io/Je0Kj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #71291 → simp_le: 0.9.0 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/Je4Pj
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<aanderse> if i want to run some ancient software that nixos has packaged (back to 2013~ ish) is there anything i need to know? i would also want to run the module
<aanderse> wanting to run this one module on nixos 19.09 if possible
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71907 → pantheon.switchboard-plug-display: 2.1.8 -> 2.1.9 → https://git.io/Je0iY
<rnhmjoj> aaron: it could be a problem if a major nix version change happened in the meantime. i recently tried to run a very old checkout of nixpkgs and nix refused to do it
<aanderse> rnhmjoj: ok, thanks for the heads up. definitely a different version of nix so will proceed with caution... :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #71908 → Python: add hook to check against dependencies in a requirements.txt file → https://git.io/Je0iO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wmertens merged pull request #71851 → handbrake: fix missing audio → https://git.io/Je0lT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71909 → transgui: 5.17.0 -> 5.18.0 → https://git.io/Je0iZ
<rnhmjoj> aaron: if it is maybe you can find an old nix version stil in the binary cache or perhaps download an old iso image
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<aanderse> maybe a nixos container and set the channel... hmm
<otwieracz> Hey.
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<otwieracz> After changing channel to 19.09 I am getting error which I tracked back to enabling octoprint in one of my containers. The error is: error: aiohttp-3.5.4 not supported for interpreter python2.7
<otwieracz> How should I deal with that?
<wormwood> Hello all, working with npm and nix-shell, is there any way to run npm install --global and it work within the default.nix env?
<exarkun> otwieracz: Do you know Python?
<exarkun> otwieracz: And can you share an example to reproduce the problem?
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<exarkun> otwieracz: The most obvious thing is that the aiohttp package in nixpkgs now requires at least python 3.5. Presumably nixpkgs updated to a newer aiohttp and upstream has dropped older python support.
<exarkun> otwieracz: running anything on python 2.7 is going to be increasingly difficult as upstream developers drop python 2.7 support
<exarkun> otwieracz: it looks like octoprint still requires python 2.7
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<exarkun> otwieracz: so you might be left overriding aiohttp to an older version which still supports python 2.7
<astrall33> \
<exarkun> the good news is that python 3 is so inherently wonderful it doesn't really matter if you lose the ability to run all of your software, you can just bask in its greatness
<wormwood> it was too overpowered for even guido
<joehh> infinisil, tokudan[m] - thankyou very much - exactly what I needed
<astrall33> running software, who want's to do that...f00ls.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71911 → libv4l: 1.16.7 -> 1.18.0 → https://git.io/Je0ir
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71912 → sysstat: 12.1.5 -> 12.1.7 → https://git.io/Je0iM
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<otwieracz> exarkun: How do I override it?
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<exarkun> otwieracz: There's a section in the manual about Python overlays. I expect you would need to do one of those. https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#python
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<exarkun> otwieracz: Alternatively, file a bug report on GitHub since ... presumably ... octoprint should work out-of-the-box instead of being broken.
<otwieracz> OK, I will have a look.
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<abbec> If I want to build a derivation with a custom version of glibc, how would I do that?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #71876 → spdlog: 1.3.1 -> 1.4.2 → https://git.io/Je0RF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71914 → tautulli: 2.1.33 -> 2.1.37 → https://git.io/Je0PR
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<__monty__> How can I determine whether this error comes from the local machine or the remote builder? I believe it's local but I want to make certain. http://ix.io/1ZHQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pingiun opened pull request #71915 → eternal-terminal: 5.1.10 -> 6.0.4 → https://git.io/Je0Po
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<pingiun> I found out that eternal-terminal already had a nix package, so I updated it :0
<pingiun> :)
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<pingiun> should I add myself as maintainer for a module if there is none currently?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidak opened pull request #71916 → slimThemes: fix version → https://git.io/Je0P7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pingiun opened pull request #71917 → nixos/eternal-terminal: add openFirewall option → https://git.io/Je0P5
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<pingiun> in that one ^
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71918 → thrift: 0.12.0 -> 0.13.0 → https://git.io/Je0PA
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<__monty__> pingiun: Yes, feel free. Only if you intend to maintain it of course. You can always add yourself as a maintainer even if there are several.
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<pingiun> useSandbox should be enabled by default on nixos, but how can I check configuration variables like this on a running nixos system?
<das_j> FRidh: Thanks
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<das_j> Is there a way to make `nix build` print the resulting store path?
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<das_j> not sure if my previous message made it through so sorry for reposting. is there a way to make the nix build tool (2.0) print the out path to stdout?
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<das_j> ah it did
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c98a006c7ee (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<lassulus> das_j: if you find out tell me
<das_j> lassulus: We could write a LD_PRELOAD library during Hackaday
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71921 → unrar: 5.8.1 -> 5.8.2 → https://git.io/Je0XC
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<Izorkin> Mic92: PR #70924 - need to fix something else?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/70924 (by Izorkin, 1 week ago, open): mariadb: remove development components
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien closed pull request #63913 → nodePackages.tedicross: 0.8.7 -> 0.9.1 → https://git.io/fjoXN
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<astrall33> nix edit nixpkgs.btar
<astrall33> just change my life (for the better)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rasendubi opened pull request #71922 → melpa-packages: 2019-10-24 → https://git.io/Je0Xo
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<evanjs> das_j: are you looking for something like this? https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2810
<{^_^}> nix#2810 (by edolstra, 23 weeks ago, merged): nix: Add --print-build-logs flag
<evanjs> Might be a tad more verbose than what you’re looking for, but it basically just gives you the kind of output you’d get from `nix-build`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidak opened pull request #71924 → slimThemes: use sane name and description → https://git.io/Je0XH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71925 → tmate: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 → https://git.io/Je0X7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @DzmitrySudnik closed pull request #71913 → java-darwin: upgrade 8.0_121 -> 8.0_212 → https://git.io/Je0Pf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @DzmitrySudnik opened pull request #71926 → java-darwin: upgrade 8.0_121 -> 8.0_222 → https://git.io/Je0Xp
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<das_j> evanjs: awesome, thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed 529 commits to nixos-unstable: https://git.io/Je01Y
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/4cd2cb43fb3 (from 23 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable)
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<ambro718> How to I disable Nix writing logs to /nix/var/log/nix/drvs?
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<tilpner> Can anyone confirm that evince segfaults when "Dual" mode is activated? (press d)
<tilpner> 3.32.0 on 19.09
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<tilpner> Trace: https://tx0.co/2Fp
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<fresheyeball> hey out there
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<fresheyeball> I am sick of waiting for docker bs in my gitlab runner
<fresheyeball> so I forked, and am having no luck
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<fresheyeball> every build fails with
<fresheyeball> ERROR: Job failed (system failure): Failed to start process: exec: "su": executable file not found in $PATH
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<fresheyeball> I tried adding `/run/wrappers` in multiple places
<fresheyeball> but it appears to have no effect
<fresheyeball> anyone know how to get the gitlab shell executor to work?
<Twey> Is there a good way to produce a stdenv that has two different toolchains in it that both work? I'd really like to have an x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu toolchain and an x86_64-unknown-linux-musl toolchain available to me…
<red[m]> I believe you need to add pkgs.su to your path
<fresheyeball> red[m]: yes indeed
<fresheyeball> su is in /run/wrappers/bin
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<{^_^}> #53985 (by mightybyte, 40 weeks ago, open): NixOS services.gitlab-runner builds fail
<fresheyeball> I tried this as well
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<tilpner> fresheyeball: You're overwriting PATH, instead of adding to it
<Twey> But I can't find any way to simply include a toolchain as a dependency, only via setting it as the stdenv from which I mkDerivation. But of course I can only have one of those
<fresheyeball> tilpner: so? I added su, why can't it find it?
<tilpner> fresheyeball: Although that's in the environment file, so I don't know what happens to it after
<Twey> I keep trying to make a musl64 stdenv and then just add `gcc` and `glibc` to my buildInputs, but adding glibc to the build inputs seems to add paths to the stdenv's compiler too, and breaks things
<tilpner> fresheyeball: Print $PATH from your service, I'm not sure path = cfg.packages makes it into runtime
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71929 → vim: 8.1.1967 -> 8.1.2188 → https://git.io/Je01i
<tilpner> fresheyeball: Do GL runners see /run/wrappers? I haven't used them yet
<tilpner> (That directory might not exist in their mount namespace)
<fresheyeball> executable "echo" not found
<fresheyeball> grr
<buckley310> are there any disadvantages of firefox-bin as opposed to Firefox, aside from being tagged unfree? just curious since bin got updated to version 70 first
<ambro718> Anyone else experiencing an "audio no longer working in Steam" problem after updating in nixos-unstable?
<fresheyeball> Unknown lvalue 'PATH' in section 'Service'
<fresheyeball> woah
<tilpner> buckley310: Yes, firefox-bin comes with different (arguably insecure) options for NSS
<buckley310> huh. interesting
<tilpner> (Not terribly insecure, but worth mentioning if you care)
<tilpner> buckley310: firefox-bin has NSS_ALLOW_SSLKEYLOGFILE=1, while firefox seems to have NSS_ALLOW_SSLKEYLOGFILE=0
<buckley310> ah, ok. that's the thing where Firefox logs session keys for analysis in like Wireshark and stuff, right?
<tilpner> Yes. It is reasonable to decide you don't care about this
<tilpner> But it can make the ultimate keylogger replacement if an attacker uses it
<tilpner> (TBF, the attacker can do it without this too, just more effort)
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<fresheyeball> ok got it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71930 → toybox: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.2 → https://git.io/Je01H
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<buckley310> ambro718, I just updated and I have audio in the first steam game I tried
<ambro718> Interesting. I'll be testing with nixos-19.09.
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<fresheyeball> tilpner: ^^
<fresheyeball> if you want it
<fresheyeball> its looks to be working well now
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71932 → x42-plugins: 20190820 -> 20191013 → https://git.io/Je0ME
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<leotaku> Is it possible to manually set the localSystem value of nixpkgs, without having to reimport "<nixpkgs>"?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71933 → xmrig: 3.1.3 -> 3.2.0 → https://git.io/Je0M2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71934 → xlockmore: 5.58 -> 5.59 → https://git.io/Je0MQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71936 → xl2tpd: 1.3.14 -> 1.3.15 → https://git.io/Je0MF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Je0Mb
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<tilpner> leotaku: Why do you want/need that?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice merged pull request #71931 → verilator: 4.018 -> 4.020 → https://git.io/Je0Mf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « verilator: 4.018 -> 4.020 »: https://git.io/Je0Dm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NobbZ opened pull request #71937 → exercism: 3.0.12 -> 3.0.13 → https://git.io/Je0DE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b opened pull request #71938 → lizardfs: use spdlog from nixpkgs → https://git.io/Je0Dz
<exarkun> How do you escape a space in a path literal?
<sauyon[m]> I'm getting `touch: cannot touch '/etc/profile.d/nix.sh': No such file or directory` when running the multi-user install script
<chloekek> I did nix run nixpkgs.powershell, typed power<tab> into the shell, it completed to poweroff and I shut down my machine T_T
<sauyon[m]> (`sh <(curl https://nixos.org/nix/install) --daemon`)
<sauyon[m]> ( `sh <(curl https://nixos.org/nix/install) --daemon` )
<sauyon[m]> it does indeed not exist; actually `/nix/var/nix/profiles/default` doesn't exist
<mdash> exarkun: ha ha oh man
<exarkun> okay yea that's what I thought.
<mdash> exarkun: I think the canonical answer is '/. + "your path"'
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<exarkun> okay thanks
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<otwieracz> exarkun: so even old aiohttp does not work with python <3.5: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/nixos-18.09/pkgs/development/python-modules/aiohttp/default.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #71906 → sccache: 0.2.11 -> 0.2.12 → https://git.io/Je06N
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Je0D1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71939 → xapian: 1.4.12 -> 1.4.13 → https://git.io/Je0DM
<ryantm> 01
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Je0Db
<otwieracz> exarkun: Either way, I've created bug report: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/71940
<{^_^}> #71940 (by otwieracz, 2 minutes ago, open): Octoprint fails on 19.09 due to aiohttp-3.5.4 being incompatible with python2.7
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<evanjs> lassulus: totally forgot to mention it earlier, but I responsed to das_j 's question on `nix build` and verbosity earlier, in case you didn't see it :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #71444 → haskellPackages.language-ats: dontCheck → https://git.io/JeB75
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Je0Dh
<evanjs> tldr - `-L` for `nix-build`-ish output with `nix build`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #71383 → haskellPackages.grammatical-parsers: unmark broken → https://git.io/JeBza
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Je0yv
<das_j> <evanjs "tldr - `-L` for `nix-build`-ish "> Not with the version packaged in 19.09
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<hlolli> a bit off-topic question, by I'm sure the combined knowledge here can help me. I'm trying to test audio binary output of a c program, that in some cases implicitly reads the system clock to generate random signal. Is the same mechanism which nix uses to set the unix timestamp to 0 useful for testing applications that are dependent on the system clock?
<symphorien> you can try to use libfaketime, maybe
<DigitalKiwi> my wifi is horribly broken on nixos 19.09/unstable :|
<hlolli> ah nice, it's python, just like I wrote my test in! Thanks symphorien!
<symphorien> oh I thought that was a LD_PRELOAD trick
<hlolli> or a wrapper over the c-library, nvm https://pypi.org/project/libfaketime/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71942 → you-get: 0.4.1347 -> 0.4.1355 → https://git.io/Je0ym
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71943 → yed: 3.19 -> 3.19.1 → https://git.io/Je0yn
<symphorien> I would like to disable ipv6 privacy extensions altogether but nixos does not allow me to set the relevant sysctl to 0, only 1 or 2: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-19.09/nixos/modules/tasks/network-interfaces.nix#L1095-L1110
<symphorien> any idea how I could disable these udev snippet without rewriting the module ?
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<symphorien> oh I guess yet another udev snippet with a higher priority -_-
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout opened pull request #71944 → Disable polysemy tests → https://git.io/Je0yo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #71944 → haskellPackages.polysemy: disable polysemy tests → https://git.io/Je0yo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Je0y9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « haskell-polysemy: remove 'broken' marker; the package now builds »: https://git.io/Je0yF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Je0yb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 10 commits to master: https://git.io/Je0yx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71945 → xxHash: 0.7.1 -> 0.7.2 → https://git.io/Je0yh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71946 → yarn: 1.19.0 -> 1.19.1 → https://git.io/Je0Sv
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<selfsymmetric-pa> Hi #nixos! I think it would be _really cool_ to have the Signal DBUS service available to Nix `services`. I tried testing it out and I got `Missing native library dependency for dbus service: no unix-java in java.library.path`. Is this familiar to any of you? Am I going about this the wrong way? Issue here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/62102
<{^_^}> #62102 (by matthew-piziak, 21 weeks ago, open): Service request: Signal DBus Service
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xwvvvvwx opened pull request #71947 → diffoscope: 126 -> 127 → https://git.io/Je0Sn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stefanjaax opened pull request #71949 → perlPackages.ack: v3.1.2 -> v3.1.3 → https://git.io/Je0Sl
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<selfsymmetric-pa> Another, unrelated question. I want to install `circleci-cli` but alias it to `circleci` on my PATH. Of course I can just alias `~/bin/circleci` to `/run/current-system/sw/bin/circleci-cli`, but how can declaratively change the name of the executable in my `configuration.nix` instead?
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<symphorien> install this package: (pkgs.mkDerivation { name = "circleci-wrapper"; buildCommand = "mkdir -p $out; ln -s ${pkgs.circleci}/bin/circleci-cli $out/bin/circleci"; })
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @scalavision to master « truvari: init at 1.3.2 (#70877) »: https://git.io/Je0SN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #70877 → truvari: init at 1.3.2 → https://git.io/JeWSC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #71922 → melpa-packages: 2019-10-24 → https://git.io/Je0Xo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Je0Sx
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<selfsymmetric-pa> symphorien: Wow nice! That's super elegant.
<selfsymmetric-pa> symphorien++
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<selfsymmetric-pa> Hmm. `ln: failed to create symbolic link '/nix/store/kcdldi08hmvsq3ppsqlmqh0jr450gzmp-circleci-wrapper/bin/circleci': No such file or directory`.
<gchristensen> mkdir -p $out/bin
<symphorien> well this is typed from the top of my head, so you might have to adapt
<selfsymmetric-pa> gchristensen++
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<selfsymmetric-pa> symphorien: Sounds fair, thanks. :)
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<selfsymmetric-pa> It works!
<l33[m]> What whichcraft is this
<selfsymmetric-pa> Thank you #nixos. :)
<l33[m]> I see what you did there
<l33[m]> Very smart
<selfsymmetric-pa> hah, whichcraft, nice
<l33[m]> Very very smart
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<pingiun> why do all dependencies need to be supplied explicitly when building python packages while rust packages can just use buildRustPackage and use cargo?
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<sondr3> because packaging in the Python world sucks
<sondr3> imho
<gchristensen> sondr3: come now, no need to be rude
<pingiun> but what's the actual difference in nix implementation?
<pingiun> I do agree btw :p
<gchristensen> doesn't matter, no need to be rude
<l33[m]> All packages managers start great
<simpson> pingiun: Because Python packages using the standard setup.py can do basically whatever they like. There's no way to ask a Python package for its desired dependencies.
<l33[m]> Then they start to implement all the features that cause it to degrade
<pingiun> what about pyproject.toml?
<l33[m]> In sure the os should manage these deps
<l33[m]> Im sure of it
<l33[m]> (Maybe)
<l33[m]> Nix shell kinda changes the way you look at building a build environment
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<infinisil> pingiun: There is a difference: How python does it you get all dependencies as nix derivations, which is something desirable in general
<infinisil> How Rust does it with buildRustPackage it gets all dependencies in the single derivation
<evanjs> l33[m]: don't forget direnv. I don't even know what nix-shell is anymore :B
<infinisil> So the build takes a while because it needs to fetch and build all deps as well
<l33[m]> Whixh is what your essentially doing with pip n things like that
<l33[m]> There are many
<l33[m]> In fact every language has its own package manager
<l33[m]> Can nix be the one to managed it all
<simpson> l33[m]: Not necessarily. Only the biggest, most popular languages do.
<simpson> And yes, of course Nix can replace them.
<pingiun> so what about using something like poetry to install all dependencies in the single derivation?
<l33[m]> A bit lord of the rings but not the eye of sauron
<l33[m]> Poetry?
<gchristensen> pingiun: the buildrustpackage's use of a single hash is not considered good practice, and we should endeavor to avoid it
<gchristensen> pingiun: github.com/adisbladis/poetry2nix
<pingiun> gchristensen: interesting
<pingiun> and how does it work in haskell land?
<pingiun> so haskell dependencies in nix
<pingiun> I'm talking applications btw, not libraries
<l33[m]> Like real ,I wandered lonely as a cloud poetry’ Type poetry
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<l33[m]> The best things are automatically
<l33[m]> Its like super automatic
* simpson hands l33[m] a lollipop
<l33[m]> Sometimes its hard to tell the difference especially in node.js
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<l33[m]> Lol
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<pingiun> simpson: why not let setup.py do whatever it likes? as long as it's deterministic
<simpson> pingiun: There's no mechanism for setup.py to *request* a package, only to die if the package isn't present.
<simpson> And yeah, many Python packages *do* run the setup.py.
<simpson> But we still must arrange the build environment before doing so, and that includes build inputs.
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<pingiun> so in theory poetry2nix could fix all that?
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<simpson> Fix what? There's nothing *to* be fixed. Python's not going to change.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bendlas opened pull request #71951 → buildLazyBinaries: init build support helper → https://git.io/Je09r
<simpson> poetry2nix, or any other tool with a similar name (pypi2nix, etc.) generate Nix expressions. They don't replace the existing package management; they're more like importers into nixpkgs or other Nix trees.
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<__monty__> Hmm, getting a "cannot coerce set to string" on a name attribute for a call to mkDerivation. What's up with that?
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<colemickens> If anyone's got a spare minute, this is a package bump that unbreaks v4l2loopback in 5.x kernels: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/71783 should be an easy review/merge
<{^_^}> #71783 (by colemickens, 1 day ago, open): v4l2loopback: 0.12.0 -> 0.12.2
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<infinisil> __monty__: Hard to say without context :)
<infinisil> s/context/code
<infinisil> But my guess is that you're doing something like `name = "foo-${version}"` and version is unexpectedly an attrset
<__monty__> infinisil: http://ix.io/1ZKZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #71783 → v4l2loopback: 0.12.0 -> 0.12.2 → https://git.io/Je0TF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Je097
<__monty__> It's just a string.
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<__monty__> Btw, if anyone knows how I can get rid of that search path entry error I'd be glad to be rid of it. Removing it from the search path broke stuff last time I tried.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NinjaTrappeur opened pull request #71953 → Backporting ACME v2 fix (#71291) to 19.09 → https://git.io/Je09b
<gchristensen> NinjaTrappeur++
<infinisil> __monty__: Why are you passing haskell.nix as arguments to nixpkgs?
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<infinisil> Maybe that's a way to use it I didn't know about before
<__monty__> infinisil: Because apparently that's how they roll now.
<infinisil> Odd
<__monty__> They've changed from it being a package set(?) to it being just a set with a config and overlays.
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<__monty__> I'm trying to adapt to said change. This shell worked before : /
<__monty__> I'm also blaming lorri, for no reason other then it might get gchristensen's eyes on the problem >.> <.< : >
<infinisil> I definitely do not agree with them setting config
<infinisil> Oh well
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #71910 → tixati: 2.62 -> 2.64 → https://git.io/Je0iW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Je09h
<infinisil> __monty__: That looks like a reasonable shell.nix definition to me though, I'd say it's something weird with haskell.nix
<__monty__> I don't grok things well enough to judge the change : )
<infinisil> Maybe they aren't compatible with your <nixpkgs>
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<hpfr[m]> The KeePassXC derivation is built without support for network in by default. This does not align with the default builds of KPXC from their website. Where can I ask about this? I assume it’s for “security” reasons, but frankly I think deviating from the default build in the default derivation is strange. The option is still available to disable for those who want to
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<__monty__> infinisil: I'll look into it further tomorrow I guess. Thanks for checking it out, nn
<infinisil> Cool, night :)
<infinisil> For me too, nixcon starts early tomorrow!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « oh-my-zsh: 2019-10-22 -> 2019-10-24 »: https://git.io/Je0HL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #71612 → bazel: 1.0 -> 1.1 → https://git.io/JeR2g
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<red[m]> nicx
<red[m]> nixcon? jelous
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<{^_^}> [nixops-aws] @RaitoBezarius opened pull request #8 → Some RDS fixes → https://git.io/Je0Ho
<{^_^}> [nixops-aws] @RaitoBezarius closed pull request #8 → Some RDS fixes → https://git.io/Je0Ho
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71933 → xmrig: 3.1.3 -> 3.2.0 → https://git.io/Je0M2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71943 → yed: 3.19 -> 3.19.1 → https://git.io/Je0yn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71942 → you-get: 0.4.1347 -> 0.4.1355 → https://git.io/Je0ym
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<_pash> hello, I am currently on nixos-unstable, and there is a package that is broken, i havent built this package before, so i have nothing to roll back to... how can i build that package from 19.09 from a user account?
<_pash> apologies if this is nooby, quite new to nixos
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<wormwood> _pash: you can use nix-env -iA <package_name>.
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<_pash> wormwood: so that doesnt seem to work, i tried that already
<wormwood> does it spit back an error message?
<_pash> wormwood: i've been trying to build it using a package override environment in config.nix
<_pash> so i am under the impression that's the same as nix-env
<_pash> http://ix.io/1ZLb - this is my ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix
<_pash> that will build fine with `nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -iA myPackages`
<_pash> but if i add tensorflow on line 11, it breaks
<_pash> i currently have done `nixos https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable` as sudo
<_pash> and nothing under the user
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<_pash> wormwood: am i missing something?
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