gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos to: The Nix Ecosystem, https://nixos.org | NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html | Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html | Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/ | #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-chat
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0c07921c906 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.09-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JesQ3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mnacamura opened pull request #69333 → r-ucminf: fix build on Darwin → https://git.io/JesQn
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/5220486f44e (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.09-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oxij opened pull request #69335 → firefoxPackages.tor-browser: 8.5.4 -> 8.5.6 → https://git.io/Jes7J
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69331 → r-pan: fix build on Darwin → https://git.io/JesHZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69332 → r-minqa: fix build on Darwin → https://git.io/JesHc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69330 → r-randomForest: fix build on Darwin → https://git.io/Jes9D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69328 → protontricks: 1.2.4 -> 1.2.5 → https://git.io/JesSj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #67748 → Yubico local auth → https://git.io/fjxPH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #67747 → yubico-pam: unstable-2019-03-19 -> unstable-2019-07-01 → https://git.io/fjxP9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69333 → r-ucminf: fix build on Darwin → https://git.io/JesQn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69311 → haskellPackages.hadolint: fix build by disabling static linking → https://git.io/Jes10
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #68220 → radeontool: 1.5 -> 1.6.3 → https://git.io/fjjie
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #69336 → pythonPackages.py-wmi-client: init at unstable-20160601 → https://git.io/Jes7P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69314 → vimPlugins.ShowMultiBase: init at 2010-10-18 → https://git.io/JesMs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69275 → amule: cleanup → https://git.io/Jesub
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69097 → hedgewars: 1.0.0-beta1 -> 1.0.0-beta2 → https://git.io/Je3cg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #64545 → nodePackages.dockerfile-language-server-nodejs: init at 0.0.21 → https://git.io/fjPfd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69283 → brave: 0.68.131 -> 0.69.128 → https://git.io/Jesa9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69286 → matcha: 2019-07 -> 2019-09-23 → https://git.io/JesV1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69072 → terra updates → https://git.io/Je3mD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #68946 → treewide: fix string escapes → https://git.io/Jes5G
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69231 → linux_rpi: copy dtb so raspberry pi 3a+ boots → https://git.io/Jesq4
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<msafadieh> hello!
<msafadieh> I've been playing around with nixos for a bit. today I tried to install it on my physical machine but it keeps complaining about missing modules
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<msafadieh> it doesn't complain about the default XMonad modules but it won't import the ones I defined under windowManager.xmonad.extraPackages
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<msafadieh> nix file for reference: https://gist.github.com/msafadieh/73b3d98f80c4530dcb7776bd396bed2e (I keep my services in a separate file)
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<msafadieh> xmonad: https://gist.github.com/msafadieh/8fd3b8fb2fe019fdbad1da91517cbc84 (the only two modules it's complaining about are Xmonad.Wallpaper and Text.Numeral.Roman, both under windowManager.xmonad.extraPackages)
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<msafadieh> nvm fixed it
<msafadieh> i had to use haskellPackages.xmonad rather than xmonad-with-extra-packages
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<ivan> why does morph think it needs to build a bunch of rust packages including cargo-vendor?
<ivan> they are apparently not used to then build something
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<ryantm> OfBorg has a file called outpaths.nix which is used to help figure out how many packages are affected by a code change. I also run it in nixpkgs-update, but it seems like it got broken by something: https://gist.github.com/ryantm/d3131693f31f4fdbfc678613690c5d0d
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<ryantm> Any suggestions for figuring out what is wrong with `amule` that causes it to break?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #69335 → firefoxPackages.tor-browser: 8.5.4 -> 8.5.6 → https://git.io/Jes7J
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<truthadjustr> can linuxrc behave like init to respawn killed child processes?
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<mojjo> Does the Nix language support deep destructuring: like `{pkgs : {bash, git}, config } : ...` ?
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<danderson> so, my `nixos-rebuild switch` activation failed (due to something buggy in my own configs). How do I find the store path for the failed system derivation, so I can poke at it?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69119 → libratbag: 0.9.905 -> 0.10 → https://git.io/Je3zu
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<mojjo> Is there a way to import a nix-file which is not a function with a different package set? like: https://github.com/justinwoo/easy-purescript-nix/blob/6d0f4ae1d75d4b03fee2cc75af746e1ed556556e/default.nix ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #69337 → ocamlformat: 0.8 → 0.11.0 → https://git.io/Jesd2
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<clever> danderson: /run/current-system will probably point to it
<clever> mojjo: import
<clever> mojjo: also, every time you do `import ./something { inherit pkgs; }` you can instead fo `pkgs.callPackage ./something {};` and it will pass `pkgs` for you
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<ivan> the 64-bit inode problem is making my hydra's ninja builds not work and I have no idea how to fix it given https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/68241#issuecomment-529145285
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<Phillemann> With the latest kernel, rebuild complains about zfs.
<Phillemann> Even after enabling boot.zfs.enableUnstable = true;
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<pbb> Phillemann: I ran into the same issue, even though I don't have any zfs filesystems
<pbb> the only solutions for now seem to be switching back to an old kernel, or disabling the zfs module entirely to prevent it from trying to evaluate
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<pbb> disabledModules = [ "tasks/filesystems/zfs.nix" ];
<pbb> interestingly I don't have this problem on some of my machines
<Phillemann> Okay, then I'll disable that for now.
<Phillemann> Thanks
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<pbb> Phillemann: please report back if it works
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<Phillemann> pbb: Doesn't seem to work unfortunately.
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<andi-> Phillemann: Any reason you need the latest kernel right now?
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<andi-> (I am in the same boat, there seems to be patch for 5.3 in the ZFS tree but nobody has applied it on our NixOS tree yet)
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<Phillemann> andi-: Nah, just wanted to try it out.
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<c0c0> when i echo $PS1, i see that it has the value "\n\[\033[1;32m\][\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]\u@\h:\w]\$\[\033[0m\]". I want that different, so i tried to change it by adding a environment.variables.PS1 = "..."; line, but it gets overridden by the value i posted before. how do i change this?
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<Phillemann> I'm experiencing some battery drain with 4.x, not sure if that might be fixed with the latest.
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<alexarice[m]> is there a way to get a temporary directory within a build derivation?
<alexarice[m]> the build is trying to log stuff to home which is failing
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<pbb> andi-: Do you have any idea why this error also occurs on systems without zfs?
<andi-> pbb: not really, also haven't looked much
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<clever> alexarice[m]: export HOME=$NIX_BUILD_TOP
<pbb> Ok. Also, does anyone know where I can find documentation on packaging bazel-built applications?
<clever> pbb: can you pastebin the full error message?
<alexarice[m]> clever: I found `export HOME=$(mktemp -d)` by grepping, is there any difference?
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<clever> alexarice[m]: TEMP, TMP, and TEMPDIR are already set to $NIX_BUILD_TOP
<clever> alexarice[m]: and your working dir is $NIX_BUILD_TOP when things begin
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<alexarice[m]> clever: great
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<clever> pbb: `nixos-option boot.supportedFilesystems` ?
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<pbb> clever: nixos-option seems to be broken on my machine, it always says the following: https://termbin.com/k1ju
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<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# nix repl '<nixos/nixos>'
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<clever> nix-repl> options.boot.supportedFilesystems.value
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<clever> pbb: what about this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srghma opened pull request #69340 → write_stylus: fix error "cannot download icon.tar.gz from any mirror" → https://git.io/Jesb9
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<pbb> clever: '[ "xfs" "ext2" "xfs" ]'
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<clever> nix-repl> options.boot.supportedFilesystems.files
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<clever> pbb: then zfs support isnt enabled, ....
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<pbb> yeah but the error still appears
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<pbb> that's the point: why is the assert in the zfs module failing, even when zfs support isn't enabled? this prevents people from using the latest kernel even when they don't use zfs.
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<pbb> let me try that
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<pbb> clever: looks good :+1:
<pbb> it's not yet backported to 19.09, is it?
<clever> doesnt look like it
<pbb> I will create a PR, this should definitely be backported
<clever> 19.09 also wasnt broken
<pbb> sure?
<clever> the commit that broke it wasnt backported
<pbb> oh, ok
<clever> incompatibleKernelVersion is still commented out in release-19.09
<pbb> then I guess it's not a problem
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @l0b0 opened pull request #69341 → TKS (Time Keeping Sucks) → https://git.io/Jesbx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Kiwi opened pull request #69342 → Matomo (module, package) updates → https://git.io/Jesbh
<DigitalKiwi> i got excited someone was talking to me but no it was bot :(
<DigitalKiwi> but PRs are exciting too!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alexarice opened pull request #69343 → youtube-dl-gui: init at 0.4 → https://git.io/JesNO
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<ddima> fpletz: hi. about the berlin sprint - is it still useful to show up in the afternoon? turns out I cant make it earlier.
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<fpletz> ddima: unfortunately I won't be at the berlin sprint but just show up when you have time ;)
<fpletz> cc globin
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « jetbrains.rider: fail evaluation in a good way on non-Linux »: https://git.io/JesN2
<ddima> fpletz: ah, ok. was just going by the meetup listing.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm opened pull request #69345 → Replace uses of splitVersion "." with splitVersion builtin → https://git.io/JesNw
<globin> ddima: yeah sure
<enteee> does somebody else also experience NetworkManager setting autoconf ip addresses (196.254.x.x/16) for lte interfaces?
<enteee> sorry meant 169.254.x.x/16
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rvolosatovs opened pull request #69346 → nixos/network: replace deprecated DHCP=both by DHCP=yes → https://git.io/JesNX
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<clever> enteee: 169.254 happens when dhcp fails to get an ip addr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #69337 → ocamlformat: 0.8 → 0.11.0 → https://git.io/Jesd2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JesAT
<enteee> clever: i see, but i don't understand why networkmanager suddenly started doing dhcp. The interface gets assigend a valid ip address right after the modem is connected (i do think modem manager sets that ip, not sure though). This ip works until dhcp fails and network manager adds this other ip.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fadenb opened pull request #69348 → graylog: 3.1.0 -> 3.1.2 → https://git.io/JesAB
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<pbb> Is anyone here familiar with buildBazelPackage and can tell me what I have to do to prevent bazel from downloading dependencies during the second build?
<pbb> Some dependencies are downloaded in the -deps derivation, but others are not, for example some maven jars, which are included in the WORKSPACE file with maven_jar(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to master « knot-dns: 2.8.3 -> 2.8.4 »: https://git.io/JesAA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #69313 → nixos/gitlab: Update release notes and documentation → https://git.io/Jes1h
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jesxe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to release-19.09: https://git.io/JesxU
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<justsomeguy> Is there any way to mute these notices about package releases/commits?
<emily> you could ignore {^_^} at the expense of also missing more useful bot output
<emily> your client may support more flexible ignores, you could ignore messages starting with [nixpkgs] for instance
<qyliss> justsomeguy: you can configure your client to ignore notices
<emily> oh, they're notices
<justsomeguy> Oh, {^_^} is the user name.
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<justsomeguy> Or not..
<emily> it's the bot's nick, yeah
<emily> try /help ignore to see help about your client's ignore feature
<emily> you can probably mute notices (as opposed to messages) from {^_^}
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @uri-canva opened pull request #69349 → jetbrains.rider: fix on darwin → https://git.io/Jesxq
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<justsomeguy> Running /ignore -{^_^} doesn't work in my irc client.
<qyliss> what client is it?
<ben> why -?
<justsomeguy> Oh, I see, the nick was actually "{^_^}" instead of "-{^_^}". I'm using Konversation
<justsomeguy> Now the ignore seems to work.
<ben> gotta open a PR to make sure!
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<justsomeguy> Nice, they seem to not be showing up anymore. Phew, that was distracting.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed to release-19.09 « knot-dns: 2.8.3 -> 2.8.4 »: https://git.io/JesxY
<justsomeguy> Oh, actually, they're still showing up. I give up. Thanks for the advice, though.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JesxB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Taneb opened pull request #69350 → manticore: 2018.09.29 -> 2019.09.20 → https://git.io/JesxE
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<exarkun> stack2nix generates 1.8MB expression :(
<exarkun> forty two thousand lines
<LnL> gchristensen: I recall you did some work to refresh the manual styling but can't find a link anymore
<gchristensen> #68020 :)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/68020 (by grahamc, 2 weeks ago, open): Vacation PR: multi-paged, styled, searchable docs with wrapper tooling and epubs for NixOS and Nixpkgs
<qyliss> epubs! :o
<LnL> gchristensen: yeah that, thanks!
<makefu> exarkun: 14k /quality/ lines to build you a perfectly reproducible environment :)
<exarkun> makefu: 42 fwiw
<exarkun> or are only 14k of them quality and the rest are crap? ;)
<makefu> :D
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<exarkun> maybe this is fine but I wonder if there is a way to carefully select my stack resolver and my nixpkgs rev so that cabal2nix output (which is like 50 lines) is valid?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rileyinman opened pull request #69351 → nodePackages: Use repo tree as nixpkgs → https://git.io/Jesx2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #69323 → virtualbox: Temporary fix for kernel >= 5.3 → https://git.io/Jesyy
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<clever> exarkun: the old stack2nix generated cabal2nix output only for the packages you depend on
<tokudan[m]> i'm working on fixing some issues with kicad in master, 19.09 and optionally 19.03. I see that there's a staging-next branch that touches the kicad/default.nix due to some gappsWrapperArgs changes. Should I base my changes on staging-next or on master?
<clever> exarkun: but at one point, it changed, and it now generates output for every single expr in the entire stackage snapshot
<qyliss> tokudan[m]: guessing kicad isn't gonna cause mass rebuilds?
<qyliss> if so, I'd only base on staging if your changes would conflict
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<tokudan[m]> qyliss: probably not causing a mass rebuilt, it's pretty much a standalone application. I'll base my work on staging then
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JesxS
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<gchristensen> LnL: gladly! I reckon I should put together a todo list to merging and get it done before it is too late :x
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<exarkun> clever: that seems kind of reasonable but it seems like it would be better to generate a separate expression for the snapshot that all your other projects could reference and share (just thinking out loud)
<qyliss> tokudan[m]: sorry, I meant only base on staging if it's likely to conflict
<clever> exarkun: which is what haskell.nix is now doing
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<qyliss> I think "if so" was the opposite of what I wanted to say
<clever> exarkun: stackage.nix is a git repo, that contains nix exprs, for every version, of every package, on all of stackage
<clever> exarkun: and then stack-to-nix will just import the right one, rather then generating it again
<tokudan[m]> qyliss: I have to touch the same wrapProgram line, so it will cause a conflict
<qyliss> oh, gotcha
<qyliss> then staging sounds right
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<exarkun> clever: is that in master?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jespq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @globin pushed commit from @rvolosatovs to release-19.09 « nixos/network: replace deprecated DHCP=both by DHCP=yes »: https://git.io/Jespm
<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @peti pushed to master « Use the latest distribution-nixpkgs for properly quoted meta.description strings. »: https://git.io/JespO
<clever> exarkun: stack-to-nix is its own repo, check #haskell.nix
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<inkbottle> The following install page doesn't make reference to grub: https://qfpl.io/posts/installing-nixos/
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<etu> inkbottle: That's a random blog post, and it uses systemd-boot
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #69353 → enlightenment.efl: 1.22.3 -> 1.22.5 → https://git.io/Jesht
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jojosch opened pull request #69354 → dbeaver: 6.1.5 -> 6.2.1 → https://git.io/Jeshm
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<inkbottle> etu: thanks
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<rihardsk[m]> hi, i'm trying to package some software that's using CUDA. i'm using Nix on Ubuntu. can i just add `cudatoolkit` and `cudnn` to the `buildInputs` in `mkDerivation` and expect the build result to be able to use the GPU on my Ubuntu machine, or is it more complicated than that?
<clever> rihardsk[m]: the version of the cuda libraries you use, must match the version of the kernel driver
<rihardsk[m]> currently i've gotten to a point that the package build fine. it detects CUDA and links against it as far as i can tell. but it fails during runtime with some `curand`-related error
<clever> rihardsk[m]: and the kernel driver must match up to the linux kernel your using
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<ivan> rihardsk[m]: it's more complicated than that on nixpkgs master where you'd have to patch things with addOpenGLRunpath (grep nixpkgs)
<clever> rihardsk[m]: so its simplest if you just use nixos with cuda
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<ivan> I didn't see the Ubuntu part so what I said is not particularly relevant
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<ivan> rihardsk[m]: nvidia-uvm kernel module should be loaded for CUDA to work
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<rihardsk[m]> ivan: oh, ok. so i would just have to ensure that the `cudatoolkit` version in `nixpkgs` matches the kernel driver on Ubuntu, as clever said, right?
<clever> rihardsk[m]: you might need overrides to enforce that, and it will break when ubuntu updates things
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<rsa> what is the best practice for installing luarocks packages? just use luarocks or write nix-expressions?
<Mic92> rsa: teto can probably give you the answer.
<rihardsk[m]> clever: overrides, as in using the different versions of cuda - `cudatoolkit_10_0`, `cudatoolkit_9_2` and such?
<clever> rihardsk[m]: the problem is that the version you need might not be in nixpkgs
<rsa> ty Mic92
<clever> rihardsk[m]: and it will break every time ubuntu updates things
<clever> rihardsk[m]: nixos avoids that problem, by using the same file to configure both the driver and libraries, so they always match
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<rihardsk[m]> clever: yeah, that's what i might be seing on my system. there's cuda 10.1 installed on the system, so i guess the driver is compatible with that. the latest cuda version i'm seeing in `nixpkgs` is 10.0, so that might be the problem
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeshH
<clever> rihardsk[m]: hence, the need for an override, lookup overrides in the nixpkgs manual
<rihardsk[m]> @clever but that kindof contradicts what i've seen on Ubuntu otherwise - there multiple different versions of cuda tend to work side by side. i can install cuda 9.2, 10.0 and 10.1 from the nvidia repos, and i think they can peacefuly coexist
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<clever> rihardsk[m]: its not specifically the cuda libraries, but the nvidia libraries
<clever> rihardsk[m]: those have a version# in the 300's
<rihardsk[m]> clever: yes, i've already taken a look into packaging cuda 10.1, but, unfortunatelly, nvidia packages it differently than 10.0 and as a result it seems to be a bigger undertaking than i'd want. i guess that's why `cudatoolkit_10_1` isn't already available in nixpkgs
<rihardsk[m]> but regardles, thank's for the information. i'll have more things to check
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<rihardsk[m]> i'd be using nixos to avoid all these problems, but i'm not the only user of the system. it'd be relatively easy to convince the other users to try Nix alone. not so much to switch from using Ubuntu to an entirely unfamiliar environment
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<sonercirit[m]> hi, I'm getting the following error when trying to install to a VM, does anyone know why? ```[nixos@nixos:~]$ nixos-install
<sonercirit[m]> building the configuration in /mnt/etc/nixos/configuration.nix...
<sonercirit[m]> /run/current-system/sw/bin/nixos-install: line 99: 5069 Killed nix build --out-link "$outLink" --store "$mountPoint" "${extraBuildFlags[@]}" --extra-substituters "$sub" -f '<nixpkgs/nixos>' system -I "nixos-config=$NIXOS_CONFIG"```
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<symphorien> looks like the oom killer
<symphorien> add swap and retry
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<sonercirit[m]> It might actually be architechture problem symphorien machine had 1 core and the image was 64bit
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<symphorien> its possible. You can look at dmesg to know which of the two hypothesis is correct.
<symphorien> anyway, nix is known to be rather memory hungry
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<sonercirit[m]> I've deleted the VM but didn't thought the result would be in dmesg
<sonercirit[m]> I'll keep that in mind, can I ping you if I run into another problem? My experience was mainly in desktop
<sonercirit[m]> * I'll keep that in mind, can I ping you if I run into another problem? My nixos experience was mainly in desktop
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<symphorien> I was about to leave, but feel free to just post a message here, I'm sure someone can help you
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<werner291> So... I'm back, having once again broken something (sorry about that). For some reason, my NixOS VPS won't boot, an error occurred in stage 1 of the boot process. If I mount /dev/sda2 I can see my files. It says it timed out while waiting for some device to appear.
<clever> werner291: while waiting for which device to appear?
<werner291> "Waiting for device /mnt-root/old-root/nixos"
<werner291> I used NixOS inplace to install it.
<werner291> Mount then fails with "no such file or directory"
<clever> werner291: can you gist the hardware-configuration.nix and configuration.nix files?
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<werner291> I'm sure I can do that...
<infinisil> werner291: Did something change since last time you rebooted successfully?
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<werner291> I tried (and apparently miserably failed) to install a Synapse server (for Matrix)
<clever> werner291: i have no idea how you broke it this badly, lol
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<werner291> XD I seem to have a talent for it.
<clever> werner291: can you just boot an older generation from the grub menu?
<werner291> Nope
<werner291> All give that same error.
<werner291> Perhaps my hosting provider's recovery tool screwed something up, though it's not supposed to touch the hard drive.
<clever> are you able to access the grub menu?
<werner291> Yes
<clever> i'll need to see the config files then
<werner291> configuration.nix and hardware-configuration.nix? I'll try to recover those.
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<werner291> Have to do it through a VNC connection... One sec.
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<waleee-cl> What have one done to incur the wrath of nix compiling qtbase 5.12.3 from source, even if you change all suspected packages to the nixos-channel?
<clever> waleee-cl: overrides and overlays
<waleee-cl> well, if 2bwm counts, but that doesn't have a whiff of qt in its dependencies
<clever> waleee-cl: comment it out and see if any changes happen
<werner291> Here's configuration.nix, nothing terribly suspicious in there. I'll do the other config files next. https://surfdrive.surf.nl/files/index.php/s/hLeANjJa83qDfTy
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<werner291> Here's the nixos-in-place.nix https://surfdrive.surf.nl/files/index.php/s/hTwnzSDKCZNo4GH Nothing terribly interesting in the other config files as far as I can see.
<werner291> clever: That last one is the only one that mentions filesystems and directories, whatever caused this was probably introduced earlier and only shows up now that I rebooted.
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<werner291> old-root doesn't have a nixos directory in it
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<clever> werner291: https://termbin.com/
<werner291> Oh that's useful, thanks.
<waleee-cl> ... unstable.go-mtfps, what the f*ck. How can that trigger a rebuild of c/c++-libraries
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<clever> waleee-cl: no clue
<werner291> ...no network
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<clever> werner291: then youll need to get the network up first, using something like dhclient or dhcpcd, or ip
<werner291> How do I trigger stage 2 of the boot if I'm in the interactive prompt?
<werner291> Thanks
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<alexarice[m]> sonercirit: This is fixed on master I think
<alexarice[m]> unfortunately unstable hasn't updated in 3 days again so it's not on unstable yet
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<sonercirit[m]> I'll wait thx a lot alexarice :)
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<werner291> Ok, I think that it should be mounting sda2 instead of sda1. Everything it needs is in sda2. Is it possible for those two to get swapped somehow?
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<werner291> Because the "nixos" directory lives on sda2 but it's trying to mount sda1
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<qyliss> werner291: yes, you shouldn't really on those names
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<qyliss> use /dev/disk/ instead
<werner291> I shouldn't what?
<qyliss> /dev/sd* are assigned in the order they're initialized
<Taneb> werner291: rely on them
<qyliss> sorry, you shouldn't rely on those names
<werner291> Oh those CAN get swapped?
<gchristensen> sda{1,2,3..} will always keep that order but sda could be come sdb
<exarkun> is it an error to run stack2nix from one version of nixpkgs and then evaluate the expression with a different version of nixpkgs?
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<Taneb> ...what happens if you have more than 26 drives?
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<exarkun> Taneb: sdaa of course
<Taneb> exarkun: I see
<clever> Taneb: i saw a blog, where a guy tried making 20,000 drives, just to see what would break first
<clever> and performance began to suffer massively, because one of the layers had a plain array, and searched it one by one
<exarkun> The expression stack2nix generated is failing to evaluate because "called without required argument 'text'"
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<foxmean> Hello, I have a little problem to ask for help. The problem is I cannot initialise pdf-tools with: (pdf-tools-install). I am using Steve Purcell’s setup. My machine is install Void GNU/Linux with co-using nix & xbps package manager. This is compilation https://paste.debian.net/1102372/. And this is Backtrace https://paste.debian.net/1102374/. I think I need to do something to add Nix search path. And I alredy know that I have to "add it
<foxmean> using $NIX_PATH or -I" but I don't know where to run this command.
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<LnL> gchristensen: yeah I like it, feels easier to navigate then the giant page
<gchristensen> LnL: awesome :D
<gchristensen> LnL: some minor problems (building docs takes too long long probably, for example) but hopefully we'll merge this release
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<mdash> foxmean: i wouldn't expect any install function like that to work with nix-installed packages
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<LnL> gchristensen: hmm, would it be possible to split up the pages into separate builds?
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<gchristensen> yeah, but that isn't the source of the problem: calculating the ToC on all the pages is very lows
<gchristensen> slow*
<Athas> What's the best way of keeping my configuration.nix under version control? Just symlink it to something in my home directory?
<tilpner> Athas: Checkout your repo anywhere, point nixos-rebuild at it via NIX_PATH
<tilpner> NIX_PATH=nixos-config=/path/to/your/checkout is one way
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<Athas> I'm not particularly enthusiastic about having to remember typing that for every nixos command, nor to define yet another set of aliases. ISn't there a smoother way?
<tilpner> Athas: The symlink you mentioned will just work
<tilpner> Athas: But you only have to set NIX_PATH once every time you change it
<tilpner> Athas: The other times, you will have set it globally in the options nix.nixPath
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<Athas> tilpner: I don't follow. NIX_PATH is an environment variable, so I will have to make sure it is set whenever I run a nixos-* command. nix.nixPath is a configuration for overlays to nixpkgs, right?
<tilpner> Athas: nix.nixPath will set NIX_PATH globally (may require a re-login)
<tilpner> Athas: So you don't need to manually provide NIX_PATH, except for the transitions
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<Athas> Ah. I guess that may work. Any advantage over symlinking all of configuration.nix?
<tilpner> (Because the config can only become active after building and switching, but you need it before)
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<tilpner> Athas: Oh, one more. You can also just git init in /etc/nixos
<Athas> I can change the owner of the files in there without trouble?
<tilpner> Sure, that should be fine
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<gchristensen> just make sure only users you want to be able to change it, can change it :)
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<tilpner> gchristensen: If they chown to their primary user, all three methods are about equally vulnerable
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<gchristensen> heh
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<tilpner> If someone can change the link (from presumably their home directory), they can probably also change NIX_PATH in the users shell
<Athas> Hm, if I symlink just configuration.nix, then it looks like hardware-configuration.nix is looked up at the symlink destination, rather than in /etc/nixos.
<clever> Athas: what i do, is add `imports = [ /home/clever/nixos-configs/whatever.nix ];` to configuration.nix
<clever> and leave configuration.nix in /etc/nixos/
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<Athas> clever: that sounds reasonable, actually.
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<Athas> clever: thanks, that seems to be exactly what I needed.
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<tilpner> And now your config is not portable :/
<Athas> In what sense?
<inkbottle> sgdisk -o -n 1:2048:$((2047+(1<<20))) -c 1:ESP -t 1:ef00 -N 2 -c 2:LUKS -t 2:8300 /dev/sda ("it's a start" - https://gist.github.com/martijnvermaat/76f2e24d0239470dd71050358b4d5134)
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<inkbottle> clever: Is it a sort of "installer"?
<clever> inkbottle: yep
<clever> inkbottle: you literally just ssh into the installer, and run justdoit, and it does it
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<inkbottle> So you need a running NixOS?
<inkbottle> I only have a memory-stick so far
<clever> inkbottle: the kexec.nix in the same dir, lets you boot nixos from ram, from another os
<clever> inkbottle: you can also generate a usb image, that has justdoit pre-installed
<inkbottle> For the present I'll stick to what I'm doing; but what you're doing can be very helpful
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* foxmean mention
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<inkbottle> clever: You use Bios? "21686148-6449-6E6F-744E-656564454649" (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GPT_fdisk#Partition_type)
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<clever> inkbottle: thats only used if cfg.efi == false
<clever> it allows bios booting on gpt
<inkbottle> I was looking for where you format the ESP partition, which I didn't found
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<clever> ${lib.optionalString (cfg.bootType != "zfs") "1 : size=${toString (2048 * cfg.bootSize)}, type=0FC63DAF-8483-4772-8E79-3D69D8477DE4"}
<clever> ${mkBootTable.${cfg.bootType}}
<clever> inkbottle: and line 54
<clever> vfat = "mkfs.vfat $NIXOS_BOOT -n NIXOS_BOOT";
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<clever> inkbottle: this script supports /boot being vfat, ext4, or just a directory on / (which is zfs)
<clever> /boot being on zfs "works" but all attempts to debug it claim it shouldnt
<clever> which means that when it does fail, all attempts to debug it will fail
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<inkbottle> I was looking for on of the 2 strings: ef00, C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B
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<clever> inkbottle: ef00 is shorthand for a longer uuid
<inkbottle> yes, but the second string is that longer uuid
<clever> now that you mention it.....
<clever> i'm using the wrong uuid type on /boot!
<clever> both root and /boot have "Linux filesystem data"
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<werner291> So... assuming that sda1 and sda2 device labels got swapped, is it possible to edit the init script just so I can get the system to boot once so I can fix my config?
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<gchristensen> sda1 and sda2 won't get swapped, as they are not separate devices
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<gchristensen> (sda and sdb might swap)
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<werner291> Well, it does appear to somehow have happened. My system is complaining about not finding old-root/nixos after mounting sda1, but I can see that file in sda2.
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<__monty__> clever: Do any tools actually change behavior based on the fs type?
<clever> __monty__: the bios is supposed to only boot from a correctly tagged esp partition...
<clever> but with how sloppy every motherboard firmware is....
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<__monty__> Yes, the abundance of fs types just seems much ado about nothing. Which is too bad, I'm sure there's efficiency to be had if you can identify a partition by its fs type.
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<emily> __monty__: yes. systemd.
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<emily> it uses them for automounting
<emily> clever: btw, you're meant to use "Solaris root" for zfs.
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<clever> emily: i mostly just ignore the partition type codes, and trust blkid instead
<gchristensen> emily: would you be interested in helping ZoL do more frequent releases, to support more current kernels?
<emily> doesn't sound inherently uninteresting, but between being completely unfamiliar with both mammoth C codebases involved (the kernel and OpenZFS) it sounds somewhat daunting
<gchristensen> aye
<emily> (ok, I guess I've read a few kernel drivers in my time, but it's mostly a mystery)
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<Stuck_> hi, I want to use a vim plugin that is not in nixos19.03 vimPlugins, how can I do it in a nix way?
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<waleee-cl> Stuck_: search for buildVimPluginFrom2Nix
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<Stuck_> thank you I think this is what I'm looking for
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<inkbottle> Since I have a graphic live-cd, with network-manager... I don't think I have to do wpa_supplicant thing (https://gist.github.com/martijnvermaat/76f2e24d0239470dd71050358b4d5134)
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<inkbottle> Therefore: nixos-generate-config --root /mnt
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<clever> inkbottle: if you can open google in a browser, then your network is already working
<inkbottle> Tx
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<clever> inkbottle: you just need to make sure the configuration.nix your installing can access wifi after the install is done and youve booted it up
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<inkbottle> clever: I believe there are plenty of modifications I have to make on configuration.nix *before* reboot
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<clever> inkbottle: yeah
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<yorick> it seems like network-interfaces-systemd doesn't support only ipv4 over dhcp
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<exarkun> does installing Haskell.nix nix-tools involve building every Haskell package on Hackage
<yorick> yes
<yorick> well, basically
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<exarkun> ughhh
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<exarkun> that seems absurd.
<clever> exarkun: stack2nix has the same limitation
<yorick> exarkun: it generates different nix expressions for the haskell
<clever> exarkun: the problem is that you are no longer obeying nixpkgs, and are instead obeying a stackage snapshot
<exarkun> is "building" ambiguous?
<clever> exarkun: did you use -A to tell it what to build?
<exarkun> why do those things mean that all of the Haskell on Hackage has to get compiled? maybe my project doesn't use anything from Hackage at all.
<clever> exarkun: if you dont, it will just build EVERYTHING, rather then just what you depend on
<exarkun> I did what it said to install nix-tools, `nix build -f https://github.com/input-output-hk/haskell.nix/archive/master.tar.gz nix-tools -o nt`
<exarkun> it put 600 things on the build queue
<exarkun> I guess. I don't exactly know how to read `nix build` output.
<clever> oh, thats the build of nix-tools itself
<clever> you likely want to use the iohk binary cache
* exarkun tries
<exarkun> thanks
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<clever> exarkun: you will also want to double-check /etc/nix/nix.conf and confirm if cache.nixos.org is still in the config
<exarkun> hmh darn it's not
<clever> its the default value
<clever> so if you set that option to anything at all, the default vanishes
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<exarkun> is there smart merging for that value? or if I set it once do I have to make sure the value includes everything I want?
<clever> its a list type, so if you set it several times, it will concat the lists
<exarkun> interestingly the key is still there, only the substituter address itself is gone. not sure if that's because of something else I did or not.
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<clever> ahh
<clever> because the key isnt set as default!
<clever> the key is a non-default entry, so it will merge with your key definitions
<clever> but the cache itself is a default entry, so your config overwrites it, and then merges with others
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<inkbottle> Is that line still up to date: "fileSystems."/".options = [ "noatime" "nodiratime" "discard" ];"
<infinisil> inkbottle: I don't see anything wrong with it
<inkbottle> OK, still useful for ssd so?
<inkbottle> How do I get my usual desktop environment in just one go?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chkno opened pull request #69370 → makeWrapper: Remove unused extraFlagsArray feature → https://git.io/JeGJj
<clever> inkbottle: services.xserver.enable = true; services.desktop-manager.xfce.enable = true;
<inkbottle> ok
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dasJ opened pull request #69371 → nixos/memcached: Switch to a system user → https://git.io/JeGUv
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<enteee> Does somebody know how to disable APIPA (after failed dhcp) on a networkmanager / modemanager managed gsm interface (ip config happens over ppp)? Or why nixos tries dhcp on such an interface in the first place?
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<exarkun> Okay stack-to-nix looks like it might be nice. it's certainly a lot faster and generates more succinct output than stack2nix. I still can't figure out how to use its output, though. What I think should be a derivation, nix-build complains is a set...
<clever> exarkun: run `nix repl` on that file
<clever> exarkun: oh, and first, `import ./that-file` in nix repl
<vaibhavsagar> Is there a `nub` for lists in nixpkgs.lib?
<exarkun> clever: it imports. The expression I thought would be a derivation is instead `{ cabalFile = null; components = { ... }; identifier = { ... }; isHaskell = true; setup = «derivation /nix/store/4h8h63a9zc1a5nzxjn8iv0p5r8zswjlk-default-Setup.drv»; }`. So ... something about the `setup` attribute?
<clever> exarkun: thats just the Setup.hs file
<exarkun> ah
<clever> exarkun: what is in the components set?
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<exarkun> clever: some good looking stuff, I guess. like an `exes` set with the exe I was looking for as an attribute
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<clever> exarkun: yep
<exarkun> thanks
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<clever> exarkun: haskell.nix supports per-component derivations
<exarkun> that's pretty nice
<clever> exarkun: so you can build just one executable from the cabal file, even if the others fail to build or are slow to build
<clever> nix can also build each executable on a different machine, in parallel, if you have build slaves
<tilpner> vaibhavsagar: lib.unique
<vaibhavsagar> tilpner: thanks!
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<kraem> is the SF pro font from apple copyrighted in a way we can't include it in nixpkgs?
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<Yaniel> heck, you aren't even allowed to use it on macOS
<Yaniel> except in GUI widgets
<Yaniel> it's literally not in the font list
<clever> fun!, lol
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<exarkun> is there a tool that will do some decent rendering or visualization of the dependencies (including transitive) of a given derivation?
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<exarkun> runtime
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<kraem> rnhmjoj, Yaniel thanks!
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<rnhmjoj> kraem: btw, if you want to use it personally just use fetchGit with https://git.io/JeGUz in your configuration
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<tilpner> exarkun: Although you can just use the dot output directly
<exarkun> ah I thought there was some dot emitter but I couldn't find it. thanks.
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<tobiasBora> Hello,
<tobiasBora> I'm thinking to package talkyard as I may need it in one project https://github.com/debiki/talkyard-prod-one
<tobiasBora> (it is a stackoverflow-like software that can be self hosted)
<tobiasBora> However, I'm not sure to know how to install it "the nix way"
<tobiasBora> It relies indeed in docker to run elasticsearch and the JVM of the server
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<tobiasBora> so what would be "the good way" to integrate talkyard into NixOs?
<tobiasBora> Should I just use docker-compose and create some scripts that run docker-compose manually as services?
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<tobiasBora> or is it better to read docker-compose file and write a full nix expression for it?
<kraem> rnhmjoj: thanks - might be introducing unnecessary dependencies and being too complex for a font package but this pulls the official download https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=otf-san-francisco-pro
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<ilyagotfryd> Have a Python and distutils in NixOS question. I have an application that I am building a package for in NixOS. When I create Python application package from a local folder it runs setup.py and creates a package perfectly fine. HOwever when I fetch the same package from GitLabb and use that retrieved source code as the source fo my package I get an issue during isntallation phase of package building
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<ilyagotfryd> it is unable to find suitable package version for my packages, as if it is not connecting to pypi
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<ilyagotfryd> I know I should ideally be using Nix to manage my Python packages, but I am trying to solve one problem at a time
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<exarkun> ilyagotfryd: does the python packaging look at .git to figure out the version? like, using setuptools_scm or something?
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<ilyagotfryd> @exarkun: I am not sure. How would you verify that?
<ilyagotfryd> I am pulling in all of the packages that are on Pypi
<ilyagotfryd> none of them are installed through git themselves
<exarkun> What do you mean by this, exactly? "HOwever when I fetch the same package from GitLabb and use that retrieved source code as the source fo my package"
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<ilyagotfryd> So my Python app is in GitLab repository.
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<ilyagotfryd> To create app packaging initially I used local copy of it in a folder and used that folder as a `src`
<ilyagotfryd> once I got that packaging to work I switch the `src` over to fetch data from GitLab (I had to create my own modification to fetch from a private repo)
<ilyagotfryd> so once I started getting this from my private repo it would build OK but then it would run install to verify package contents and it would fail with the following error:
<ilyagotfryd> ```
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<ilyagotfryd> ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement ultra-config (from bvla-engine==0.0.7) (from versions: none)
<ilyagotfryd> ERROR: No matching distribution found for ultra-config (from bvla-engine==0.0.7)
<ilyagotfryd> ultra-config is just a package in pypi, I also tried to remove that package to see if it is that one in particular, it simply moves on to fail on another package
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<exarkun> You could nix-build it before?
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<exarkun> ultra-config is not packaged in nixos. I would expect that you would need to package it. And whichever other python packages this project has as a dependency which aren't packaged in nixos.
<ilyagotfryd> so nix-build sourcing a local folder goes over swimingly with all of these packages being pulled from pypi and not nixpkgs
<ilyagotfryd> also when I am removing ultra-config it fails on the next one.
<ilyagotfryd> It looks like the error is coming from pip or easyinstall and not nix per se
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<exarkun> I don't understand how or why it would be downloading packages from pypi and succeeding.
<exarkun> That is not compatible with my understanding of how the Python support in Nixpkgs works.
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<exarkun> Maybe you can paste your setup.py and .nix file somewhere
<arianvp> has anybody else had nix copy hang before?
<arianvp> I can download and upload just fine to my server but nix copy hangs after copying around 5 MB
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<ilyagotfryd> exarkun you can either pull packages into environmet by importing them into build configuration and passing them through to buildPythonApplication or you can include them into setup.py as you normally would and it will just fetch them for you at install time.
<ilyagotfryd> At least that is what it does for me when installed from local folder.
<exarkun> Yes. I don't think that's true.
<ilyagotfryd> It is recommended to do through nixpkgs but it is not mandatory
<exarkun> I do not believe you can package Python software for NixOS by just letting pip download a raft of crap from PyPI.
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<exarkun> I don't know where the contradiction comes from. Possibly I could tell by looking at your nix expressions, though I'm far from an expert so there's hardly a guarantee there.
<emily> pypi2nix can do it
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<exarkun> Also, it is now end-of-day here now so I'm off.
<ilyagotfryd> exarkun thank you for talking to me.
<ilyagotfryd> I'll keep digging
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<ilyagotfryd> emily: do you know anything regarding this odd problem I am having.
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<ivan> https://gist.github.com/ivan/98f2b395ec8f0d3c5143f96e31a55454 does anyone know what the kernel build process is trying to tell me here?
<emily> ilyagotfryd: sorry, I don't
<ivan> I set INET_DIAG INET_TCP_DIAG INET_UDP_DIAG INET_RAW_DIAG INET_DIAG_DESTROY to yes
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<ivan> oh maybe I need = module;
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<ilyagotfryd> emily: NP, thanks.
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<samueldr> I have this systemd unit that I want to disable/mask, but can't just disable the option, and setting wantedBy to [] is not enough since other units wants = [ it.service ]
<samueldr> do we have a fancy way to disable or "mask" a service that will exist?
<samueldr> ah
<samueldr> .enable duh I guess
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<tobiasBora> Hello,
<tobiasBora> I'd like to know, does nix provides a way to setup discourse on a server?
<tobiasBora> (I can see that the community uses discourse, so I'd expect to find this kind of integration inside nix, but I can't find any, even by searching nixpkgs)
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<tilpner> $ dig +short discourse.nixos.org CNAME
<tilpner> nixos1.hosted-by-discourse.com.
<tilpner> It's not selfhosted
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: ping
<gchristensen> andi-: ^ I decided not to work on more metrics for now, figured this is a start :P
<LnL> which plugin mechanism are you using?
<LnL> oops
<tobiasBora> tilpner: so it's not possible to selfhost it from a nixos server?
<tobiasBora> How could I do something like that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg closed pull request #69380 → dxx-rebirth: build with gcc6 as gcc8 is not supported → https://git.io/JeGk7
<infinisil> tilpner: tobiasBora: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/59981
<{^_^}> #59981 (by adisbladis, 22 weeks ago, open): WIP: Add discourse package & nixos module
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg reopened pull request #69380 → dxx-rebirth: build with gcc6 as gcc8 is not supported → https://git.io/JeGk7
<esclear> Can anyone here confirm that the vlc from nixos-unstable is working with UPNP? I hoped that I could work around the missing sftp support that way.
<tobiasBora> infinisil: oh, that' great!
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<andi-> gchristensen: probably better then nothing :-)
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<LnL> gchristensen: I case you didn't know yet, hydra does export some metrics to statsd
<gchristensen> LnL: yeah, what do you think about re-exporting those to prom?
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<LnL> not sure what's in there exactly but might be nice to include (some) of those
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #68540 → trojita: 0.7 -> 0.7.20190618 → https://git.io/JeGIz
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<tobiasBora> infinisil: if I wanted to self host it without this PR, is it still possible to rely on docker directly?(I'm asking because I may be interested by Talkyard, which does not have any module, even in PR)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69299 → hyperv-daemons: fix binary location to stop error log spam → https://git.io/JesKy
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<infinisil> tobiasBora: No idea, I guess if discourse had a docker thing it might be possible
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #69383 → dxx-rebirth: build with gcc6 as gcc8 is not supported → https://git.io/JeGtB
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<tobiasBora> infinisil: ok thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69336 → pythonPackages.py-wmi-client: init at unstable-20160601 → https://git.io/Jes7P
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<aanderse> DigitalKiwi: hey, whats up?
<DigitalKiwi> did you figure out that error i get in matomo
<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: and what's the difference between callPackage and callPackages how come they both work
<aanderse> oh, didn't callPackage -> callPackages fix it?
<DigitalKiwi> hm i didn't try
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: no it didn't
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: which makes sense because adding the new package was the last thing i did and it didn't work before that so i don't know why it'd fix
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<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: is there a template/guide for how to make a nixops modulee?
<DigitalKiwi> by template i mean minimal example
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivan opened pull request #69388 → kernel/common-config: enable INET_{TCP,UDP,RAW}_DIAG and INET_DIAG_DE… → https://git.io/JeGqJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tokudan opened pull request #69389 → kicad: 5.1.2 -> 5.1.4 [WIP] → https://git.io/JeGqk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor opened pull request #69390 → retroarch: 1.7.5 -> 1.7.8.4 → https://git.io/JeGqL
<DigitalKiwi> if anyone else can try and figure this out that'd be great https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/69342#pullrequestreview-292315917
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69061 → djview: adopt, upd {descriptions, to qt5}, add features → https://git.io/Je3tW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeGqn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #69391 → dotnet-sdk: 2.2.401 -> 2.2.402 → https://git.io/JeGqc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #69392 → dotnet-sdk_3: init at 3.0.100 → https://git.io/JeGqu
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<pikajude> how often does nixpkgs-unstable actually update? seems pretty stable to me
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<samueldr> as often as it will, when tests pass
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<samueldr> though nixpkgs-stable needs both linux and darwin tests to pass
<samueldr> if you're using Linux only, even non-nixos, you may prefer to use nixos-unstable
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: yeah i just don't think you're allowed to use it there, nobody else has it in docs either, and another package fails when i modify it to have fpm.socket in a description
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* justan0theruser
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hlolli opened pull request #69393 → yakyak init at 1.5.4-beta-rolling and (patched) electron-packager init at 14.0.6 → https://git.io/JeGmO
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<energizer> is there somewhere that old versions of packages are kept? for example, if i wanted to get CPython 3.4
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<ivan> there is no CPython 3.4 in nixpkgs 19.09 but you could get it from an older release
<ivan> energizer: nix-env -f https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/release-18.09.tar.gz -iA python34
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<energizer> ivan: i see, thanks
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-19.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ebdc4419310 (from 87 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-19.03-darwin)
<energizer> that won't always work, right? new versions of nix may become incompatible with older releases of nixpkgs?
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<samueldr> it tries amazingly hard to stay compatible
<samueldr> and mostly succeeds!
<samueldr> nix-shell -I nixpkgs=channel:nixos-13.10 -p pkgs.hello --pure --run "hello"
<samueldr> nix-shell -I nixpkgs=channel:nixos-13.10 -p pkgs.gcc --pure --run "gcc --version"
<energizer> in that case, why remove old packages?
<samueldr> the *package set* itself is what is currently maintained
<samueldr> old gcc versions aren't maintained in the current package set
<samueldr> what is in nixpkgs is what is needed and used by nxpkgs and its users, and maintainers
<samueldr> its goal is not to become a library of all versions of all software at all times :)
<energizer> yeah i guess i'm asking "why not" :-)
<samueldr> though nix being stable, and working hard in staying compatible, makes it so it's easy to use older versions
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @esclear opened pull request #69394 → vlc: Add libssh2 as dependency to support sftp inputs → https://git.io/JeGmu
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: i don't even think it needs to be there anyway and what i have isn't necessarily the right path either since it could be changed so
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #69385 → nixos/pykms: log to journal → https://git.io/JeGt9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeGmi
* DigitalKiwi needs to change the -doc.xml too >.>
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