<leo_>
Or setup with `environment.etc."/nixos/overlays-compat/overlays.nix" = ...`?
<leo_>
Bad practice or would break something?
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<leo_>
Or ok?
<hyperfekt>
leo_: If it's a store directory you don't have mutability, at which point you could just set nixpkgs.overlays (save for nix-env being special and not looking at that iirc)
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<leo_>
Mutability is needed in this case?
<leo_>
So what about the second option, `environment.etc`?
<hyperfekt>
leo_: No, it is not needed. I was just saying, that if you're using a store path you could just skip manually writing to a file altogether.
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<jd823592>
Is it possible to set nix-channel to the nixpks master branch on github? I do not seek nixos updates very often but whenever a new package grabs my attention it never is in the latest official release. Alternatively, the .nix file from the nixpkgs often contains a function to make a derivation, nix-env -i however expects only the derivation, is
<jd823592>
there some straightforward way how to simulate the population of the arguments the derivation depends (to be able to download the newly added .nix file - let's say next-gtk-webkit/default.nix and install it manually - although in this case it also depends on other packages that are not in the release I locally have)
<teto>
jd823592: I would recommand you to have a local checkout of nixpkgs, add it to your NIX_PATH
<teto>
jd823592: then you can cherry-pick packages as you see fit
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<jd823592>
teto: thank you, that seems to be what I am looking for, could you expand a little about the "cherry-pick"ing part?
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<teto>
if you can wait a few days, you can add the unstable channel to your nix-channel list and choose to install software via unstable.next-gtk-webkit instead of nixpkgs.gtk-webkit for instance
<teto>
jd823592: while on a local checkout, you can do "git cherry-pick <COMMIT_THAT_INTRODUCES_WHAT_I_WANT>"
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[rfcs] @CrystalGamma opened pull request #54 → [RFC 0054] Support levels and tiers → https://git.io/JeclJ
<jd823592>
teto: could the local checkout be turned into a channel so that I can say local.next-gtk-webkit instead of relying on NIX_PATH which I assume flattens the alternative sources into a single hierarchy
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<teto>
jd823592: nope, a git repository is not a channel because channels have some metadata with them. But you can still add your local checkout in NIX_PATH under the name "local"
<teto>
you just can't do nix--channel --add /home/dj82/nixpkgs
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[nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to master « cachix: fix build on darwin »: https://git.io/JeclO
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<jd823592>
teto: thanks a bunch, I will try this
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[nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @elohmeier to release-19.09 « pythonPackages.bleach: add implicit setuptools dependency »: https://git.io/JeclR
<cinimod`>
I think I might be the only person in the world who has used callCabal2nixWithOptions with "--subpath ..." - at leat google reveals no other usage afaics
<alexarice[m]>
I think in general nixpkgs-unstable tends to advance quicker
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<kaba00>
alexarice[m]: Thanks!
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<alexarice[m]>
kaba00: I don't think there is much difference though so I'd recommend nixos-unstable if you are running nixos and nixpkgs-unstable otherwise
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<kaba00>
Did anyone experience problems with setting the screen brightness on laptops in nixos-unstable? I have a thinkpad t480 laptop and I could change it with the hotkeys without any additional config, but it doesn't work on unstable. Were there any sort of change that may have touched this part of the OS?
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<kaba00>
alex``: nix-prefetch-url can be used I think
<alex``>
how
<kaba00>
``
<kaba00>
``nix-prefetch-url https://dl.suckless.org/surf/surf-2.0.tar.gz[0.0 MiB DL]path is '/nix/store/idrh9nhg3yr0kkw9knvvv2pqprh2mv4h-surf-2.0.tar.gz'07cmajyafljigy10d21kkyvv5jf3hxkx06pz3rwwk3y3c9x4rvps``
<alex``>
sha256 is before -surf-2.0?
<kaba00>
sorry, I didn`t manage to write it out nice, but simply enter the new url and it will download it and add it to your nix store. And will output the hash at the end.
<alex``>
thanks
<alex``>
the sha256 is generated from the url field
<alex``>
?
<shyim>
no from nix-prefetch-url
<alex``>
yes, but what make it change is the url field no?
<shyim>
Just nix-prefetch-url the download url, and add it to the nix file
<kaba00>
With the given nix file you try to edit, there you (likely) have to change the version
<alex``>
thanks
<alex``>
how to get https working on surf?
<alex``>
with the default package, surf, https links work
<alex``>
but not when I try to compile in the git repo
<kaba00>
nix-env -iA nixos.surf and it works for me with https
<alexarice[m]>
I just use fail on first attempt to get sha256
<shyim>
yep now for me too
<alex``>
kaba00: I know
<shyim>
WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 surf https://github.com works for me
<alex``>
but surf 2.0 is too old
<etu>
alex``: you probably need to use nix-shell to get the deps if you build it yourself.
<alex``>
I want to compile from git
<etu>
,libraries alex``
<{^_^}>
alex``: Don't install libraries through nix-env or systemPackages, use nix-shell instead. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Libraries for details.
<alex``>
and here https doesn't work
<etu>
alex``: But preferred way would be to update the package
<alex``>
there is no version > 2.0 (2017)
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<alex``>
etu: I didn't
<etu>
If they are still developing it but not making releases it could be worth updating it anyways to pinned git commits and set the version to "unstable-<date-of-commit>"
<shyim>
has someone an idea why this overideAttr is not working? https://dpaste.de/daOZ . Error is attribute 'overrideAttrs' missing. I did excactly the same for phpstorm it is working there....
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<freeman42x>
I enabled bluetooth on NixOS. I managed to connect my headphones, worked great. Next day... trying to connect them again and nothing: https://i.imgur.com/ucgzANE.png
<freeman42x>
I tried repairing but nothing, still does not connect. Same headphones
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[nixpkgs] @nmattia opened pull request #70321 → libcxxabi: don't depend on libunwind → https://git.io/Jec0z
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[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @WilliButz to release-19.09 « grafana: 6.4.0 -> 6.4.1 »: https://git.io/Jec0g
<edcragg>
i have a freeze on "waiting for locks or build slots..." when building a previously interrupted rustPlatform.buildRustPackage build, not sure where these locks might be, any ideas?
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<leo_>
So having the SSH keys for root in the state file is one more secret to manage.
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[nixpkgs] @marsam pushed commit from @jonringer to release-19.09 « racerd: 2019-03-20 -> 2019-09-02 »: https://git.io/JecuZ
<elvishjerricco>
I thought nixops *did* persist secrets in the state file
<elvishjerricco>
You can check with nixops export
<leo_>
elvishjerrico: even deployment keys?
<gchristensen>
elvishjerricco: some secrets like the private ssh key, but not deployment.keys I think?
<leo_>
Yeah.
<leo_>
I was reading the code.
<leo_>
And that was my impression.
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #70323 → gtk3: correct version in .pc file → https://git.io/Jecun
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<leo_>
gchristensen: no problem the keys being generated by NixOps, it's just that if I'm setting a `users.users... key` it's unnecessary for nixops create to do it
<gchristensen>
the key isn't for you, though, it is used by nixops
<leo_>
Yeah.
<gchristensen>
so anyone with the state file is able to deploy. (this may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on perspective)
<elvishjerricco>
gchristensen, leo_: Just checked mine. Looks like deployment.keys secrets *are* in the state file
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<leo_>
elvishjerrico: And how are you handling the state file?
<leo_>
In the article you don't mention it. :s
<elvishjerricco>
leo_: What do you mean? I just let it sit in my home directory and make sure to back it up :P
<leo_>
With git-crypt or something?
<leo_>
I mean how you'd go about sharing it.
<elvishjerricco>
leo_: I don't.
<elvishjerricco>
Haven't had a need for that yet
<elvishjerricco>
Though it's certainly a weak point of nixops
<elvishjerricco>
git-crypt is a bad choice though
<elvishjerricco>
Git is all about branching, and you really don't want to branch your state file
<elvishjerricco>
I'd probably use a bastion server before anything else
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<leo_>
Hm.
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<leo_>
Thanks Will Fencer!
<leo_>
(that's your name right? hehe)
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<leo_>
I'll dabble with it. Try to come up with a hack.
<elvishjerricco>
leo_: Just a thought: You probably want something where the state file is never decrypted on developer's machines. It's better to only have one place the secret could be stolen from rather than a bunch.
<elvishjerricco>
leo_: Yea I'm Will Fancher :)
<leo_>
Mind opening.
<leo_>
Sorry for the typo.
<elvishjerricco>
I bet fencer is a common autocomplete for my name :P
<elvishjerricco>
alex``: Easiest to just build the attribute from the nixpkgs tree. `nix build -f . opera`
<alex``>
`nix build -f . opera` from the git root directory of nixpkgs?
<cransom>
i do `nix-build -E "with import <nixpkgs> { }; callPackage ./default.nix {}"` when building locally
<elvishjerricco>
alex``: Yea, from the nixpkgs root
<alex``>
elvishjerricco: what does `-f .` mean?
<alex``>
what would it do without it
<alex``>
and where does it build the package
<alex``>
for `-f .` I would have expected to navigate inside the opera/ directory
<elvishjerricco>
alex``: With the shorthand `nix` command, `-f` tells it what file to read for the Nix expression to evaluate
<elvishjerricco>
So it'd just evaluate nixpkgs normally, using your working checkout
<alex``>
I don't understand how it finds `pkgs/applications/networking/browsers/opera/default.nix'
<elvishjerricco>
And the positional argument tells it what attribute name to use
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[nixpkgs] @stigtsp opened pull request #70324 → perlPackages.SmartComments: init at 1.06 → https://git.io/JecuK
<alex``>
nix build -f . scan recursively from the current dir?
<cransom>
. pulls in default.nix
<elvishjerricco>
alex``: The root directory's default.nix evaluates to a giant attribute set with all the packages as elements. This is specified by the pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix file
<elvishjerricco>
It's the Nixpkgs code that defines what's available, not the Nix tool itself
<elvishjerricco>
Unfortunately, understanding the code path between default.nix and all-packages.nix is absurdly complicated
<alex``>
where I can see the result of the build?
<alex``>
to use the new opera
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #70325 → NetworkManager, ModemManager: move all symlinks to alias, add alias for modem-manager.service → https://git.io/JecuD
<elvishjerricco>
alex``: `nix build` will place a `result` symlink in the working directory. You can choose a different name for the symlink with `-o`. You can also use `nix run` instead to just get a shell where the package is installed.
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<gchristensen>
I wonder if we should add environment.etc."ipsec.secrets" = { mode = "0600"; text = ""; }; to the default system, otherwise l2tp VPN connections don't work
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @derchrisuk opened pull request #70326 → Ansible: version bump for 2.6/2.7 and current 2.8 → https://git.io/Jecu7
<teto>
gchristensen: that is if you use ipsec :p
<teto>
we were spaking about a networkmanager knob to add it IIRC
<exarkun>
graphviz fails on macOS, on this: assert stdenv.isDarwin -> ApplicationServices != null;
<elvishjerricco>
barrucadu: It's not the default in any channel yet, but it's available in 19.09 and unstable at the attribute `haskell.compiler.ghc881`.
<Taneb>
disasm or sphalerite may have more information
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<disasm>
hello :)
<disasm>
we had some delays in the freeze
<disasm>
and there's still a number of issues left in the milestone to resolve. sphalerite and I will be going through those this week and start weeding out the nice-to-haves from the must-haves.
<disasm>
I'd like to encourage everyone to start using 19.09 and reporting issues if you haven't already :)
<Taneb>
disasm: is there much I can do to help?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #70329 → opera: use autoPatchelfHook, use wrapGAppsHook → https://git.io/JeczO
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jec2w
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @abbradar opened pull request #70336 → matrix-synapse service: blacklist local IPv6 addresses by default → https://git.io/Jec2r
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to release-19.09 « opera: use autoPatchelfHook, use wrapGAppsHook »: https://git.io/Jec26
<trevthedev>
error: anonymous function at /nix/store/97bjr3da57nkirpqh6nvwyawkqmacwc8-nixos-19.09beta596.77b5a1965fc/nixos/pkgs/applications/misc/blender/default.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument 'pythonPackages', at /nix/store/97bjr3da57nkirpqh6nvwyawkqmacwc8-nixos-19.09beta596.77b5a1965fc/nixos/lib/customisation.nix:69:12
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<elvishjerricco>
Oh. Didn't realize 19.09 hadn't been released :P I thought that if it had a channel in the nixpkgs-channels repo, then it was released, and that unreleased versions were just developed on the main nixpkgs release-ab.xy branch.
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<l33>
worldofpeace : i just set the enviroment var ... export QEMU_NET_OPTS="hostfwd=tcp::2222-:22" , dunno if that's correct..but it worked... your didn't work for me... but thanks anyhow!
<freeman42xx>
trying to use dpkg on NixOS and getting: dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory
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<emily>
...are you sure you want to be using dpkg on NixOS?
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<emily>
don't get me wrong, it sounds like fun, just also kind of terrifying
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<freeman42xxx>
emily, chrome remote desktop gives you a .deb file
<slabity>
In my `/etc/nix/nix.conf` I see the line "trusted-users = @wheel" and I can confirm my user is in the wheel group. However, when I try to `nixos-rebuild switch`, I get a bunch of warnings of the following:
<slabity>
warning: ignoring the user-specified setting 'extra-builtins-file', because it is a restricted setting and you are not a trusted user
<slabity>
Any idea why it says I'm not a trusted user? Is it because of sudo?
<clever>
gnidorah: instead of using wrapProgram and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it would be better to keep it in the rpath
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<clever>
gnidorah: the build tools might already do that, but patchelf --shrink breaks it
<clever>
gnidorah: if you remove the wrapProgram and set dontPatchELF = true;, does it still work?
<clever>
gnidorah: and related to your steamcmd stuff, i recently discovered `steam steam://nav/console`, that opens a console, directly in the steam UI
<gnidorah>
clever: ok i've added because there is SDL_LoadObject library loading code in game
<gnidorah>
clever: just keeping it in RPATH (as by default) didn't help
<clever>
gnidorah: ahh, it would probably have to be in SDL's rpath then, which isnt easy
<clever>
gnidorah: id just leave the PR as it is then
<clever>
tetdim: here is a basic derivation you can run, if you supply uour own binaries for ps, env, id, and cat, you can run that without a single reference to <nixpkgs> and stdenv
<Ericson2314>
tetdim: congrats!
<tetdim>
i haven't even started on post compilation yet :||||
<tetdim>
it ligit only compiles core
<tetdim>
no tests no nothing sigh
<tetdim>
clever, you mean get a base system installed into nix
<tetdim>
as in the core package groups
<tetdim>
Ericson2314, ty <3
<clever>
tetdim: the stdenv contains gcc, ld, make, and basic tools like cp/rm
<clever>
tetdim: busybox is used to unpack those tools, and line 29 will patchelf the patchelf
<tetdim>
surely that would be better
<clever>
tetdim: the gcc tools tar, is basically the lfs /tools/ dir
<clever>
tetdim: unpack-bootstrap-tools.sh will unpack that tar to $out, and re-patchelf it (with the patchelf inside the tar) to expect all of its libs in $out/lib/
<tetdim>
"path /root/nixpkgs is not in the nix store" clever
<clever>
exarkun: if you provide the old hash, nixos finds the old copy in /nix/store and doesnt care that upstream borked things
<clever>
tetdim: you may need to turn off restricted mode and the sandbox
<tetdim>
wassat
<clever>
exarkun: if you use the "darwin" hash on nixos, then it should just work everywhere
<clever>
exarkun: you can blame somebody on the rust package management end, for changing a source tar without changing the version
<exarkun>
clever: is there some strategy for dealing with this case - the case where /nix/store has the "wrong" hash (wrong in the sense that you would never be able to reproduce it if it weren't in your /nix/store already)
<clever>
exarkun: set the hash wrong, on all machines, and see if the new hash they come up with matches, on all machines
<zfnmxt>
I'm trying to package up a Python application via `buildPythonApplication`. It has a variable `__variety_data_directory__` that is supposed to be set during the install phase in `setup.py`, but I guess `buildPythonApplication` doesn't seem to do this (and I'm naive about how it works). The variable in question is here:
<tilpner>
freeman42xxx: It's in binutils-unwrapped, at least
<clever>
tetdim: and you already cloned nixpkgs to ~/nixpkgs ?
<freeman42xxx>
tilpner, thank you tilpner++
<{^_^}>
tilpner's karma got increased to 44
* clever
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<tilpner>
freeman42xxx: Install nix-index and use nix-locate for next time :)
<tilpner>
freeman42xxx: nix-locate -r '/ranlib$' is the invocation you want
<tetdim>
clever, yep
<freeman42xxx>
tilpner, but if I do that I don't get to give you guys reputation anymore...
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<exarkun>
tilpner: nix-store --realise --check?
<exarkun>
oh nix-build takes --check too
<exarkun>
just nix-build --help doesn't say so
<exarkun>
hey hmm "error: some outputs of '/nix/store/9vw243fa4y6v27l4kn74rgz52qa8c1vn-python2.7-privacypass-0.0.0.drv' are not valid, so checking is not possible" :/
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<exarkun>
okay my derivation's src is fine. guess I just work upstream from there
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<exarkun>
meh no I don't get it
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<tetdim>
clever, ("build users are not supported on this platform for security reasons");
<akavel>
what can I be doing wrong? what can I do to get the new one?
<akavel>
I tried `nix-env -e nim` and again `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.nim`, but still only 0.20.2
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<akavel>
can I check what is the commit that my channel is built from?
<Guest94>
Hi all, very weird question here. I'm running as minimal a possible nixos install as I can, but still when I leave my laptop idle for a few minutes the screen automatically turns off. I thought I had disabled anything like this. Does anyone know where an even like that might be logged so I can figure out what is triggering it?
<ivan>
Guest94: in your desktop environment's power/display/screensaver settings?
<Guest94>
Thing is I'm just running 2bwm as my WM, with no real DE
<freeman42xxx>
I installed hamachi and when I launch it nothing happens. What NixOS alternative for hamachi exists?
<akavel>
Guest94: possibly search for acpi settings as well
<Guest94>
so I think that wiki link is my best bet
<Guest94>
thanks akavel, will do
<akavel>
Guest94: I have some vague memory that it might require explicit disabling, that the basic nixos config tries to be helpful here and has such sleep enabled
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<Guest94>
I think you're right akavel, looking at my config I've had to disable some acpi stuff before. Might've missed a spot
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<akavel>
hmh, ok, somehow the commit from 4 days ago does *not* have the commit from 9 days ago, not sure why :/ was it merged only later?
<Guest94>
Okay, I think I found it. Seems DPMS is enabled by default if acpi is enabled. I still have acpi enabled for certain other events which means I'll need to explicitly disable DPMS in the monitor section of xorg conf
<Guest94>
Only thing I'm a little confused by is it seems like that's taken care of with nixos using the option "services.xserver.xrandrHeads.*.monitorConfig"
<Guest94>
In this case though I'm really not sure what the * should be
<Guest94>
Maybe I'll just use services.xserver.config instead
<freeman42xxx>
misuzu, so I need to install the package zerotierone and then log in there? how does that work?
<misuzu>
freeman42xxx: just create network via my.zerotier.com, set services.zerotierone.enable to true and add network id to services.zerotierone.joinNetworks
<l33>
'need to have something with a GUI'........
<l33>
get in the shell!!! :-)
<l33>
wow....zerottier has a nix package/service .... that's 'cool'
<freeman42xxx>
misuzu, this is done in configuration.nix? "set services.zerotierone.enable to true and add network id to services.zerotierone.joinNetworks"
<freeman42xxx>
where was this documented?
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<misuzu>
freeman42xxx: yes, as everything else in nixos
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<inkbottle>
Well, I'm not very comfortable with firewall; I'll try to understand how that works...; thanks for the code.
<manveru>
do you see the kdeconnect indicator in your systray?
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<tilpner>
alex``: Okay, I've put your repo on ignore twice now, and I'm still getting notifications. Next time you push, please edit me out of the commit message, thanks
<alienpirate5>
instead of having the proper include location, it tries to include from some random directoryu
<iqubic>
Do you have a shell.nix for this project?
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<alienpirate5>
which project?
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<alienpirate5>
this is a package in nixpkgs
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<iqubic>
I see.
<alienpirate5>
you can build it yourself by doing `nix-build -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).pkgsCross.armv7l-hf-multiplatform.xorg.libX11'`
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<alienpirate5>
or try to build it, i guess
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<arcnmx>
are there any docs/descriptions for what the default expression is for the "nix" subcommands when -f isn't provided? is there an actual file backing it? it it built-in somewhere? or magic?
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[nixpkgs] @samarthkeeptruckin opened pull request #70359 → Add vihag/terraform-provider-qubole to providers.txt → https://git.io/Jecib
<arcnmx>
hm, the answer seems to be that people are in disagreement about what it should even be doing (https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1929) so I guess not, and maybe flakes are relevant there?
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nix#1929 (by ElvishJerricco, 1 year ago, open): Nix 2.0: Default -f to ./default.nix when it exists