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<evils> m3thos: like `nix-env --delete-generations 10 11 14` ?
<kandinski> hmm, I'd like for someone else to check this, because I'm not very good, but I think nixos-rebuild is not correctly restarting avahi and flushing caches on test, switch commands.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #70971 → devilutionx: unstable-2019-07-28 -> 0.5.0 → https://git.io/Jel4D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed commit from @karolchmist to master « devilutionx: unstable-2019-07-28 -> 0.5.0 (#70971) »: https://git.io/JeReG
<kandinski> (by which I mean I don't want to write an issue if I'm mistaken, but it seems to me this is what is happening: I solved my issue by manually restarting avahi)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #71456 → nixos release notes: interfaces might get renamed → https://git.io/JeBF0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeReC
<elux> clever: btw, so i downgraded from nixos-unstable to nixos-19.09 and now everything works fine.. i guess i'll stick on this version
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @vcunat to release-19.09 « nixos release notes: interfaces might get renamed »: https://git.io/JeRe4
<clever> elux: could be a bug in unstable
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #71351 → emacsPackages.evil-escape: fix build → https://git.io/JeBsu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRe2
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<octe> i want to set it to packages that are not python packages
<clever> octe: the [] is just an empty list
<octe> yes, but what does ps: do?
<clever> octe: the default value is a function, that takes a set of python packages, and then returns a list of things
<clever> defines a function that takes 1 argument
<octe> i tried setting it to = ps: [ pkgs.jq ]
<clever> it will probably only add those packages to the PYTHONPATH
<octe> but that doesnt seem to do what i want :)
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<octe> yea
<clever> so it wont wind up in the normal PATH
<octe> it should i think
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<octe> the service is set later to
<octe> path = (with pkgs; [ gawk curl ]) ++ lib.optional cfg.python.enable
<octe> (pkgs.python3.withPackages cfg.python.extraPackages);
<clever> octe: you can set that .path again, and nixos will merge things
<octe> oh cool
<clever> systemd.services.netdata.path = [ pkgs.jq ];
<octe> awesome, thanks :)
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<oscarvarto> Hi! I would like to use mermaid-cli to make documentation using emacs. Mermaid is not in the nixpkgs. If I start nix-shell with node, then install mermaid.cli, how can I connect to emacs daemon started outside the shell?
<hodapp> odd... anyone else noticed after upgrading to 19.09 that DPMS standy/suspend no longer happens?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #71337 → nixos/networkmanager: remove networking.networkmanager.dynamicHosts → https://git.io/JeBTZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeReP
<hodapp> I can 'xset dpms force standby' but the screensaver now never triggers it for some reason
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #71067 → nixos/httpd: remove deprecated extraSubservices option → https://git.io/Jelp8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeReD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @das-g opened pull request #71477 → kmymoney: 5.0.5 -> 5.0.7 → https://git.io/JeReN
<elux> im building my own nixos image for Google Cloud (https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Install_NixOS_on_GCE), and it works great. except, even after i checkout the release branch and run the ./nixos/maintainers/scripts/gce/create-gce.sh command, it it only ever builds from the nixos-unstable master head.. any suggestions?
<clever> elux: that just builds whatever <nixpkgs> from NIX_PATH maps to
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<clever> elux: so you need to `NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=. nixos/maintainers/scripts/gce/create-gce.sh`
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<elux> clever: thanks for the tip
<elux> works :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #71478 → postgresqlPackages.postgis: 2.5.3 -> 3.0.0 → https://git.io/JeRvk
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<Domains> Need cmd and cp mods for new site http://godlikelunatics.freeforums.net/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71248 → pythonPackages.phik: init at 0.9.8 → https://git.io/Je4lp
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eadwu opened pull request #71481 → bcachefs: update 10 → https://git.io/JeRvy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eadwu opened pull request #71482 → vscode-extensions: update 2 → https://git.io/JeRvS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eadwu opened pull request #71483 → sourcehut: update 2 → https://git.io/JeRv9
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<inkbottle> When I look at the .drv file from "nix pills, 6.2", it looks like a "set" containing one function, whose parameter is called "/nix/store/z3hhlxbckx4g3n9sw91nnvlkjvyw754p-myname.drv".
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<inkbottle> That seems weird.
<inkbottle> Not only because the identifier would be between double quotes.
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<inkbottle> But fwik, colon is only used for lambda abstraction, so a function it should be
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @purcell opened pull request #71484 → fly: 5.4.1 -> 5.6.0 → https://git.io/JeRvF
<samueldr> drv files are not nix expressions
<inkbottle> now that you say it...
<inkbottle> ok then
* samueldr has a blank
<samueldr> IIRC it uses a known file format
<clever> i believe it was pp-aterm
<samueldr> well, lesser-known I should say
<samueldr> yeah
<samueldr> but I can't find proof of it, and searches online are blanking me
<inkbottle> By the way, I guessed that the term "out path" is related to the compiler;s output format, a.out?
<samueldr> might be simpler, output path
<clever> 2015-09-14 22:21:18< Mathnerd314> McEnroe_: why do you need the configuration.nix? just use pp-aterm -i $(nix-store -q --deriver /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-<n>-link)
<clever> 2016-03-05 19:24:22< Sonarpulse> I did a diff <(pp-aterm $(nix-instantiate ...) <(ditto)
<clever> 2016-01-23 20:26:57< roconnor> Sonarpulse: /nix/store/198lcy5p71xz2396ahvs1gsrsp0d4kym-strategoxt-1.8pre24429/bin/pp-aterm
<clever> 2016-08-31 12:07:25< clever> Seichi: ah, found it in an older chat log, nix-env -iA nixos.aterm ; pp-aterm -i foo.drv
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> look at that
<samueldr> search engines now find the results now that I added strategoxt
<samueldr> I hate the current devolution of search engines *ends rant*
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71485 → amazon-ecs-cli: 1.16.0 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JeRvA
<inkbottle> The important point is that it is not a nix expression. (.drv files)
<inkbottle> thanks
<{^_^}> [nix] @earksiinni opened pull request #3159 → Document import <path> syntax → https://git.io/JeRvp
<clever> there is now a `nix show-derivation /nix/store/foo.drv` to pretty-print things
<inkbottle> yes, it is in the nix pills
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRfv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #71152 → musl: 1.1.2x -> 1.1.24 → https://git.io/Je8ok
<inkbottle> (still have 14 pills to pop, have to hurry)
<samueldr> I'm now curious as to historic reasons for using ATerm
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<slack1256> Does anyone use `nix repl` on emacs? and if you do, how?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chessai opened pull request #71486 → forge: add → https://git.io/JeRfG
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<selfsymmetric-mu> slack1256: I do.
<selfsymmetric-mu> slack1256: I use this. https://github.com/NixOS/nix-mode
<Flambe> Could someone help me out with getting steamvr working?
<selfsymmetric-mu> slack1256: It provides `M-x nix-repl`.
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<selfsymmetric-mu> Flambe: What's not working? Do you have `hardware.steam-hardware.enable = true`?
<Flambe> selfsymmetric-mu I do, but the vrmonitor keeps mentioning that it needs superuser access to complete its install, but it does not pop up a zenity instance.
<Flambe> In addition reading /tmp/SteamVRLauncherSetup.log repeatedly mentions the error, "Error: setcap of vrcompositor-launcher failed." every time I start it up
<clever> Flambe: due to how the steam fhs env works, it cant access sudo
<Flambe> clever: Any workarounds?
<selfsymmetric-mu> This looks like a useful bit of troubleshooting: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamVR-for-Linux/issues/203#issuecomment-511864060
<clever> Flambe: figure out what permissions its trying to adjust, and fix them manually
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<slack1256> selfsymmetric-mu: Nice, thank you.
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<mog> what is the right way to do envrionment varables for a systemd.user.services ?
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<selfsymmetric-mu> mog: Maybe `environment.variables.FOO = ...`?
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<AmandaC> WEll that's certinely something: `nix: src/libexpr/attr-set.hh:54: void nix::Bindings::push_back(const nix::Attr&): Assertion `size_ < capacity_' failed.\nAborted (core dumped)` whenever I try and run `nix search foo`
<{^_^}> nix#3140 (by Ninlives, 1 week ago, open): `nix run` crash in 2.3.1
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<AmandaC> Seems to espically be hitting nixos, I've not noticed any such issues on my mac, just on an nixos VM I set up to toy with some stuff while I wait for my laptop to come back to me
<Flambe> Well, I tried finding the permission steamvr was looking for and setting it manually, but that failed too
<clever> AmandaC: basically, the problem is when you have more entries in `nix-channel --list` then in `$NIX_PATH
<AmandaC> I see
<AmandaC> so solution: add a couple of empty dirs to NIX_PATH
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<clever> AmandaC: yeah, until its fixed
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<mog> https://pastebin.com/TYXPEHji it builds the environment tag but its not being picked up?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71489 → arb: 2.16.0 -> 2.17.0 → https://git.io/JeRJz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71490 → avro-tools: 1.9.0 -> 1.9.1 → https://git.io/JeRJV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #71281 → suricata: 4.1.5 -> 5.0.0 → https://git.io/Je4wD
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<slack1256> How do I install npm packages globally? `npm install -g firebase-tools` fails.
<slack1256> It says it cannot write /nix/store , and with good reason, but maybe it should place it on a user path?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71491 → bind: 9.14.6 -> 9.14.7 → https://git.io/JeRU4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71492 → birdfont: 2.27.0 -> 2.28.0 → https://git.io/JeRUV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71493 → aws-c-common: 0.3.11 -> 0.4.12 → https://git.io/JeRTZ
<cjpbirkbeck> does anybody here use udiskie?
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<wedens[m]> yes
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<cjpbirkbeck> wedens[m]:okay, i was going to ask a question, but i fixed it to my satification already, so never mind
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71496 → armadillo: 9.700.2 -> 9.800.1 → https://git.io/JeRkU
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<asymmetric> is anyone else's magit slow on the nixpkgs repo, esp when displaying the log?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71497 → airsonic: 10.4.0 -> 10.4.1 → https://git.io/JeRkG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chessai opened pull request #71498 → libxsmm: add → https://git.io/JeRkZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #71104 → ocamlPackages.duff: init at 0.2 → https://git.io/Je8Gn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71499 → buck: 2019.09.12.01 -> 2019.10.17.01 → https://git.io/JeRk4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #71426 → gtk3: Enable separated debug info on Linux → https://git.io/JeBM6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71500 → mod_wsgi: 4.6.7 -> 4.6.8 → https://git.io/JeRkR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #71501 → ocamlPackages.decompress: 0.6 →0.9.0; ocamlPackages.git: 1.11.5 → 2.10 → https://git.io/JeRk0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #71158 → lxqt.qps: 1.10.20 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/Je8K7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRk2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71503 → bitwarden: 1.16.4 -> 1.16.6 → https://git.io/JeRkV
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<hyper_ch2> finally got guacamole running.... in the end I used docker. Next, how to connect to Nixos/KDE using vnc or rdp :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh closed pull request #71470 → botocore, boto3, awscli: upgrade to latest release → https://git.io/JeBxF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « checkstyle: 8.24 -> 8.25 »: https://git.io/JeRIU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71503 → bitwarden: 1.16.4 -> 1.16.6 → https://git.io/JeRkV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « bitwarden: 1.16.4 -> 1.16.6 »: https://git.io/JeRIT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71502 → bitwarden_rs-vault: 2.11.0 -> 2.12.0 → https://git.io/JeRkz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « bitwarden_rs-vault: 2.11.0 -> 2.12.0 »: https://git.io/JeRIk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71500 → mod_wsgi: 4.6.7 -> 4.6.8 → https://git.io/JeRkR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « mod_wsgi: 4.6.7 -> 4.6.8 »: https://git.io/JeRII
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71499 → buck: 2019.09.12.01 -> 2019.10.17.01 → https://git.io/JeRk4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « buck: 2019.09.12.01 -> 2019.10.17.01 »: https://git.io/JeRIL
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<wedens[m]> how do I upgrade $PGDATA to a new postgres version?
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<wedens[m]> I should probably just reference previous postgresql version location in the store in `pg_upgrade` command, now that I think of it
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<arianvp> anybody ehre have experience with ghcide?
<arianvp> i treid setting it up in vscode. The progress bar keeps saying "processing 100/100000" and the counter resets every time you hover over a piece of code
<arianvp> and it never finishes
<arianvp> and then the number on the right hand side increases
<arianvp> and it continues "Processing"
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<chessai> arianvp: this is #nixos, perhaps you mean #haskell?
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<arianvp> oops
<arianvp> danke
<karetsu> I updated my lightdm and now (with the same config) it no longer shows the users and we have to manually input usernames, was there a change in the settings?
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<arianvp> :)
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<worldofpeace> karetsu: what's the content of the files at /var/lib/AccountsService/users/* ?
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<annadane> hi, anyone know if, if i run the nix package manager on top of an existing linux, whether its configuration files will be separate from other programs installed in the system? like if i have emacs installed in debian but also install the newer one from nix, i can keep the two separate?
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<kaliumxyz> I cant seem to put stuff under /var/ with a one-shot systemd script
<kaliumxyz> whats the solution for this again?
<infinisil> annadane: You can keep the installations seperate, but not necessarily the configuration
<karetsu> worldofpeace: it has a [User] block for each, no Language or Session but XSession, Icon and SystemAccount for each are as expected
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<infinisil> annadane: Emacs for example reads from ~/.emacsd, no matter how you installed it
<edef> worldofpeace: heya! i'm blocked on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/71335#issuecomment-544267790, i'd like to get this out of my queue soon
<annadane> i guess emacs is a bad example because it's always going to be "backwards compatible"
<infinisil> kaliumxyz: What are you using this for?
<annadane> but yeah
<edef> worldofpeace: no real rush, just curious if there's any repro details to be had
<kaliumxyz> infinisil enterprise java stuff, am using the jboss module in nixpkgs as example
<kaliumxyz> its jboss based so makes sense.
<kaliumxyz> they have not changed much in the past 5 years either
<kaliumxyz> lol
<kaliumxyz> anyways, I'm trying to create /var/jboss
<worldofpeace> karetsu: but what's the value of SystemAccount?
<infinisil> kaliumxyz: If you have a systemd service, the best way is to set systemd.services.*.serviceConfig.StateDirectory = "jboss"
<edef> kaliumxyz: you can use StateDir in the systemd unit for that easily, if you're making a service
<karetsu> worldofpeace: true for my admin account, false for my day to day one
<edef> hah, jinx
<infinisil> kaliumxyz:Which will create /var/lib/jboss
<kaliumxyz> okay, great c:
<kaliumxyz> thanks.
<worldofpeace> edef: the issue I had there was weird, I think I might test it in a nixos qemu vm
<worldofpeace> (can do this now too 👍️)
<adisbladis> annadane: No, nothing makes software built with nix use different config files.
<infinisil> adisbladis: Well there are things like vim_configurable which do exactly that
<adisbladis> infinisil: Yes, but those are special cases :)
<adisbladis> Nothing inherent with Nix
<edef> worldofpeace: would be v appreciated, but no rush
<worldofpeace> ummm, karetsu what's an "admin" account? does that mean you're a member of wheel? I believe SystemAccounts are always hidden
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<karetsu> worldofpeace: I have two accounts for myself, one in wheel and one that my wife can use without threatening the universe - no account is shown in the list
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c merged pull request #71338 → nixos/nix-daemon: don't refer to deprecated option aliases → https://git.io/JeBTr
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<edef> getting married so i can be the wife who threatens nixpkgs (and by extension, the universe)
<chloekek> I have default.nix which evaluates to a list of packages: "let pkgs = ...; in [pkgs.cargo pkgs.gcc]". Now I can use "nix run -ic ..." to run commands with PATH set to bin folders of those packages. But besides PATH I would like to set additional environment variables in default.nix, for "nix run -ic" to expose to the command. Is this possible with
<chloekek> nix run?
<chloekek> In particular I want to set the environment variable CCI_QEMU to "${pkgs.qemu}".
<worldofpeace> karetsu: so I believe there's like a running bug with logind that accountsservice tries to workaround, and basically you end up with null xsession and systemaccount=true.
<worldofpeace> karetsu: I think, you can just edit the file to SystemAccount=False, or nuke the files and reboot.
<karetsu> great
<karetsu> thanks :)
<worldofpeace> And I think I only know this because on upgrades/downgrades its happened to me at least once
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<matt74> hi all
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<karetsu> worldofpeace: no dice, I can live with it though, its only a few seconds of extra time - thanks for the help
<worldofpeace> you did reboot karetsu ?
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<worldofpeace> edef: ^
<karetsu> yes, nuked the files and rebooted, its fine, my username isn't long :D
<edef> worldofpeace: lgtm
<edef> worldofpeace: my best guess is that your regular system's .Xauthority is somehow broken
<kaliumxyz> getting /tmp is not writable, cant services use /tmp?
<worldofpeace> edef: I ran plover.dev fine in a vm with xterm, I'm going to try gnome next. since that's where the issue was
<matt74> Hi does anyone use "devede" from nix repo?
<infinisil> matt74: Not me, but I recommend asking directly what you're coming here for
<kaliumxyz> moving to a different oflder for temp worked
<kaliumxyz> c: more errros c:
<edef> you can set PrivateTmp alternatively
<kaliumxyz> okay, how do I do that?
<edef> so the service gets its own /tmp
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<kaliumxyz> I don't have code completion on nix expressions, or any other good way to discover attributes.
<kaliumxyz> :c
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<infinisil> chloekek: You should be able to define a `pkgs.mkShell { buildInputs = [ <your packages> ]; CCI_QEMU = pkgs.qemu; }`
<edef> systemd.services.*.serviceConfig.PrivateTmp = "yes"; i think
<kaliumxyz> Thanks c:
<edef> systemd.services.*.serviceConfig.PrivateTmp = true should work, even
<worldofpeace> edef: yeah my .Xauthority is broken, will merge since I've confirmed it's not a gnome issue either.
<edef> worldofpeace: sweet :3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #71335 → Add missing Plover deps → https://git.io/JeBTq
<edef> ^_^
<chloekek> infinisil: That would work with nix-shell, but not with Nix run: " This derivation is not meant to be built, aborting"
<worldofpeace> edef: you're welcome, thanks for the timely reminder.
<kaliumxyz> how do you do discovery of attributed edef?
<infinisil> chloekek: Ugh, I'm not a fan of these new commands, especially because of the low amount of docs on tehm
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<edef> kaliumxyz: the manual has them, though i tend to read the systemd manpages for these
<infinisil> chloekek: It might be impossible to set env vars with nix run
<edef> kaliumxyz: `man configuration.nix` and `man systemd.service`, respectively
<edef> kaliumxyz: or, well, the configuration manual just points you at the systemd manpage
<kaliumxyz> :c thats so in efficient, we need proper IDE plugins as a community.
<kaliumxyz> the emacs plugins are good but are broken with the latest versions.
<kaliumxyz> sadly
<kaliumxyz> that or I have things misconfigured.
<kaliumxyz> specificially meaning for code suggestion, a lot of things do work.
<infinisil> kaliumxyz: I have thought about how to make a good IDE experience for Nix with proper autocompletion and stuff, but it's really not simple because of Nix
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<edef> we can walk options at least
<edef> in the context of NixOS modules it's fairly easy imo
<edef> it's just hard to figure out whether something is a module
<kaliumxyz> Yea, there is an emacs plugin for that, its not done complete though.
<kaliumxyz> also currently broken with latest version of emacs.
<edef> i'd like to figure out how to do LSP for that
<kaliumxyz> you can get it working by changing how it parses the symbols, I'll make a PR for that in a bit.
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<infinisil> edef: It's not that easy, because depending on where you are in the file, different completions are possible
<infinisil> E.g if you use a `mkMerge` it should also work within
<infinisil> Or if you use `systemd.services = mapAttrs (...) ...`
<edef> mkMerge is a well-known function
<edef> other stuff gets trickier
<infinisil> It would be really ugly and brittle to hardcode all these cases
<kaliumxyz> thats what a parser does tho.
<edef> something brittle is better than nothing
<infinisil> kaliumxyz: Yeah this would have to tie into the Nix parser and evaluator
<infinisil> And some more stuff is needed too
<edef> like, if we start out with "we must solve the halting problem", there's just not going to be much morale
<kaliumxyz> Depends on what you want.
<infinisil> I want the best IDE experience possible!
<edef> if you get to play with a working but brittle thing and see the promise of it, that's a much more exciting starting point
<kaliumxyz> If you just want it to suggest attributes in a sane way, thats not impossible. Covering all the edge-cases is going to be hell.
<edef> we both want the same end goal, but i think i'm unlikely to reach it on my own
<infinisil> Maybe I'll try to hack on this during NixCon's hackday :D
<edef> and gathering folks willing to work on stuff like this requires gathering enthusiasm first
<kaliumxyz> c:
<kaliumxyz> we can do this c:
<kaliumxyz> there is already a lot of work done.
<edef> infinisil: sgtm, i'll be there
<kaliumxyz> There is actually a nix company mode which relies on nix-shell, its just broken right now.
<infinisil> s/nix-shell/???
<kaliumxyz> oh, I mean nix repl
<kaliumxyz> :d
<kaliumxyz> a shell is a repl
<infinisil> nix repl is broken?
<infinisil> Ohh
<kaliumxyz> no, it just changed.
<infinisil> I understand "there is a nix company which relies on ..."
<kaliumxyz> Its not broken but it changed slightly afaik
<infinisil> s/understand/understood
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<kaliumxyz> There is also nixos-options company mode which works if you change it a bit.
<kaliumxyz> Though its not scope aware at all.
<kaliumxyz> it just parses the symbol under your cursor.
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<kaliumxyz> I'll hit you guys up if I make real progress with getting the `nix repl` based one working
<kaliumxyz> I might be better off just extracting relevant code from nix instead of working with emacs lisp though, I'm much more used to C like languages
<kaliumxyz> lo
<kaliumxyz> lol*
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<chloekek> infinisil: thanks, I will do something else for now.
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<Ariakenom> I installed openvpn. for other installs there are openvpn example files in /usr/share/doc/packages/openvpn. where can I find them?
<Taneb> $ ls $(nix-build "<nixpkgs>" -A openvpn --no-out-link)/share/doc/openvpn/examples/
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<Ariakenom> Taneb: ah makes sense thanks
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<garbas> any idea what changes in service.printing in last 2 months? i don't have an option to print pdf or to see my printer anymore?
<garbas> s/changes/changed/
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* garbas runs ... tig nixos/modules/services/printing
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<infinisil> garbas: I only know of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/55510
<{^_^}> #55510 (by florianjacob, 36 weeks ago, merged): nixos/printers: declarative configuration
<etu> garbas: I can se "print to file" in my printing dialog, and I can see my printer as well using the declarative configuration linked above
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<garbas> infinisil: etu: i think i foung somebody with similar problems https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/69559
<{^_^}> #69559 (by wkral, 3 weeks ago, closed): CUPS Printers not found in GTK applications
* garbas jst started reading that bug
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<etu> garbas: Interesting, I printed my nixcon/travel documents from firefox and evince today :D
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<garbas> etu: this is exactly what i am doing :)
<manveru> hmm
<manveru> is my config, if you're interested
<manveru> and it works in firefox at least
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71527 → chirp: 20190905 -> 20190925 → https://git.io/JeROR
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<manveru> curious :)
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<Henson> hello everyone, I just upgraded to NixOS 19.09 and now power management in KDE doesn't work. I looked online a bit and came across issues with PowerDevil and needing to remove some lines from ~/.config/ksmsservrc, but that didn't help. Any suggestions?
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<hyper_ch2> the only thing I isually set is not to sleep/hibernation when notebook lid is closed and there's ac power supply
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<worldofpeace> Henson: I believe there's issues open on github about this problem
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<DigitalKiwi> oh yeah i've been having problems with power management too :<
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<DigitalKiwi> can't adjust screen brightness anymore not sure when it happened i went back to my oldest boot i still had and that didn't work either...not sure when it started
<DigitalKiwi> worldofpeace: that's why i wasn't on nixos-unstable for a bit :P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #71519 → cutelyst: 2.8.0 -> 2.9.0 → https://git.io/JeRmX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « cutelyst: 2.8.0 -> 2.9.0 (#71519) »: https://git.io/JeR3q
<slack1256> Hi, I think I am missing the idea on how to use 'npm install -g' on nixos. Could somebody checkout this log of 'npm install -g firebase-tools'? https://pastebin.com/hh87BiVD
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<slack1256> It says it tries to install the package on a node_modules onto /nix/store. There should be a way to tell it to install on the $HOME.
<flokli> hmm… anybody else experiencing huuge lags on current master, when firefox triggers a notification?
<flokli> Then there's a .firefox-wrappe[10126]: Failed to connect to proxy message in the user journal
<flokli> ^ angerman
<flokli> ^ andi-
<slack1256> flokli: Me, I activated telegram notifications and got lag but only the first time.
<flokli> slack1256: I see the same hangs with nm-applet, and maybe slack
<slack1256> Latter notification trigger correctly and don't take too much time.
<slack1256> Oh but nm-applet it's its own thing, what DE are you using?
<slack1256> KDE has it's own way to show popup/notifications.
<flokli> that's i3
<flokli> interesting, can trigger via notify-send too
<mdash> slack1256: `-g` means to not do that
* flokli fires up strace
<AmandaC> flokli: I'm guessing dunst is taking a while to launch up, or not launching at all
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to flakes « Don't ignore revs/refs of local flakerefs »: https://git.io/JeR3O
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<mdash> slack1256: so just use it without that
<flokli> yeah, there's dunst in the mix
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<AmandaC> I've noticed similar hangs when dunst was misconfugred and immediately died upon launching
<flokli> and I remember some hackery in home-manager
<{^_^}> rycee/home-manager#162 (by flokli, 1 year ago, closed): WIP: Restart dunst on configuration changes
<andi-> flokli: not here.
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<flokli> it smells like a dunst problem when switching to a new configuration
<flokli> killed dunst and it seems to have recovered. Let's see
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidak opened pull request #71528 → xzoom: fix version → https://git.io/JeR38
<slack1256> mdash: I was wondering why I didn't have the executable when installing without the -g flag. It seems it was under node_modules/.bin .
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @exFalso opened pull request #71529 → Add SGX packages → https://git.io/JeR34
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71530 → cmakeWithGui: 3.15.1 -> 3.15.4 → https://git.io/JeR3R
<slack1256> Thanks mdash
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp opened pull request #71531 → perlPackages.MojoRedis: init at 3.24 → https://git.io/JeR3z
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus closed pull request #71443 → ammonite: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.4 → https://git.io/JeBQ1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71532 → dcm2niix: 1.0.20190410 -> 1.0.20190902 → https://git.io/JeR3i
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<inkbottle> "wacom.enabled"; "xsetwacom --list dev" returns nothing; "lsusb" OK; digitizer is working, but using it break my other mouse; no button or click events are working
<inkbottle> breaks*
<inkbottle> lsusb -> Bus 002 Device 012: ID 056a:0018 Wacom Co., Ltd CTE-650 [Bamboo Fun (medium)]
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #71522 → nodejs-12_x: 12.12.0 -> 12.13.0 → https://git.io/JeRYo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeR3b
<inkbottle> If I use the stylus, hovering is detected as left click (by applications), and my other mouse buttons stop functioning
<infinisil> You mean "services.xserver.wacom.enable = true"?
<inkbottle> yes
<infinisil> Here's my wacom config, maybe you need similar udev rules: https://github.com/Infinisil/system/blob/master/config/new-modules/drawing.nix
<inkbottle> awesome
<infinisil> Although it seems to be detected somewhat already, so maybe not
<infinisil> Potentially also search online for your tablet on linux
<inkbottle> yes, I'm now reading some ubuntu post
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71533 → cimg: 2.7.1 -> 2.7.4 → https://git.io/JeR3j
<inkbottle> It's detected by xinput alright; is the command really "xsetwacom --list dev"?
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<inkbottle> C-A-f1 then C-A-f7 does restart the x-server?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 165 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JeRsT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @BrianHicks opened pull request #71534 → [WIP] elmPackages.elm: 0.19.0 -> 0.19.1 → https://git.io/JeRsk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71535 → bvi: 1.4.0 -> 1.4.1 → https://git.io/JeRsB
<{^_^}> [systemd] @worldofpeace opened pull request #33 → Additonal logind fixes → https://git.io/JeRs0
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 merged pull request #115 → Replace ad hoc throttling fix with throttled → https://git.io/fjMeZ
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRsE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #69124 → Update to NetBeans 11.1 → https://git.io/Je32w
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRsQ
<inkbottle> What is the "name" of that package: it is not listed with "nix search wacom". And I don't know how to find package names when they are not found by "nix search"
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<hyper_ch2> I use "nox" usually
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71536 → catch2: 2.9.2 -> 2.10.0 → https://git.io/JeRs5
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<user1234> Hello everyone! Need help. Why i cant login as root in minimal installation CD? NixOS 19.09
<manveru> inkbottle: `nix search` won't show unfree packages by default
<user1234> and root account not have empty password btw
<manveru> user1234: i think that was changed recently
<inkbottle> hyper_ch2: tx, looking into it
<inkbottle> manveru: how do you know that package is unfree?
<manveru> user1234: ` The installer now uses a less privileged nixos user whereas before we logged in as root. To gain root privileges use sudo -i without a password. `
<hyper_ch2> user1234: ?
<user1234> manveru , thank u very much!
<manveru> inkbottle: i don't know which package you're talking about, was just guessing :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #70509 → snzip: init at 1.0.4 → https://git.io/JeC8A
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRsN
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<inkbottle> hyper_ch2: "nix-shell -p nox"; the search command would be "nox wacom"?
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<hyper_ch2> inkbottle: yes
<inkbottle> ok
<hyper_ch2> inkbottle: what ar eyou trying to do with wacom?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71537 → cfr: 0.146 -> 0.147 → https://git.io/JeRGf
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<inkbottle> hyper_ch2: my wacom bamboo fun is recognized by lsusb and xinput but not xsetwacom; when I use it (stylus) it puts a mess in my other pointing devices -> click events stop working; (tablet click event is like "left click always on")
<inkbottle> Maybe it's work better after next reboot
<hyper_ch2> you did enable wacom in the configuration.nix?
<inkbottle> yes
<hyper_ch2> I see two wacom packages with no
<hyper_ch2> nox
<inkbottle> hyper_ch2: they are installed the moment you set "enable"
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<hyper_ch2> no idea
<inkbottle> nice
<inkbottle> I'll put a pin on it for the present
<inkbottle> have to resume more scheduled activities
<inkbottle> tx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to elm-19.1 « WIP elm-0.19.1 »: https://git.io/JeRG0
<{^_^}> [systemd] @Mic92 merged pull request #33 → Additional logind fixes → https://git.io/JeRs0
<{^_^}> [systemd] @Mic92 pushed 4 commits to nixos-v243: https://git.io/JeRGE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar opened pull request #71538 → WIP elm-0.19.1 → https://git.io/JeRGa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71539 → flexget: 2.21.19 -> 2.21.25 → https://git.io/JeRGV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to elm-19.1 « WIP elm-0.19.1 »: https://git.io/JeRGP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71540 → drawio: 11.3.0 -> 12.1.0 → https://git.io/JeRGX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @davidak opened pull request #71541 → reuse: add homepage → https://git.io/JeRG7
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<uc> hi. when i make a derivation in `nix-shell` i can add `shellHook` to run some script before entering `nix-shell`. is there any such a hook for exiting nix-shell?
<uc> like to cleanup something when i press ^D for instance
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71542 → diffoscope: 125 -> 126 → https://git.io/JeRZf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed to master « mbedtls: disable auto updates »: https://git.io/JeRZk
<mdash> uc: bash supports running code on exit
<mdash> uc: so you can put `trap my_exit_cleanup_stuff EXIT` in shellHook
<uc> mdash, like to add a `trap smth EXIT`?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to elm-19.1 « WIP elm-0.19.1 »: https://git.io/JeRZY
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<uc> mdash, i had thoughts about it but was wondering whether something kinda built-in
<AmandaC> How could I use something like fetchFromTarball to pin something like home-manager in my nixos/nix-darwin config?
<uc> thanks anyway
<edef> AmandaC: you can fetchzip
<AmandaC> I'm not sure how I'd do it in a nix expression, edef. Ideally I'd like to be able to still use the nixos/nix-darwin modules.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71543 → folly: 2019.09.16.00 -> 2019.10.14.00 → https://git.io/JeRZ2
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<oscarvarto> Could someone take a look at my home.nix conf? I need some help to make ob-mermaid work. Apparently, it is configured, but I get no png output.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71546 → pantheon.elementary-camera: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5 → https://git.io/JeRZ1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hedning opened pull request #71547 → nixos/seahorse: Use seahorse's askpass by default → https://git.io/JeRnJ
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<inkbottle> Vocabulary: The ".drv" file, *is* the "derivation"?
<uc> if i created script via `nixpkgs.writeScriptBin` can i get its name after?
<uc> after i assigned it to a name, like `let foo = nixpkgs.writeScriptBin "bar" "..." in ...`
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<uc> is there any attribute of `foo` i could get `"bar"` by
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<dminuoso> Does anyone here run fail2ban successfully? Im starting to wonder whether its lacking some fundamental fixup work..
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<tetdim> h
<tetdim> Ericson2314, around? :D
<tilpner> dminuoso: Some people seem to: https://search.tx0.co/?q=fail2ban&i=nope&files=&repos=
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<dminuoso> tilpner: As far as I can tell, it doesnt actually work.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71549 → eagle: 9.5.0 -> 9.5.1 → https://git.io/JeRn2
<dminuoso> The logs suggest it works, but I cannot for my live make it actually modify iptables.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRna
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #70259 → rust introduce `checkFlags` to parametrize test execution → https://git.io/Jecks
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<grw> dminuoso: have you enabled any jails?
<dminuoso> grw: Yes.
<dminuoso> grw: They are triggering fine too, and fail2ban is listing offending IP addresses correctly, but no actual iptable entries get created.
<grw> hm, strange. all i can say is that it used to work (i have stopped use it now)
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<dminuoso> I have a feeling that the actions need to be patched up to know about absolute store paths.
<inkbottle> the "derivation" is what is returned by the "derivation" function, and it is a "plain set" (nix pill #6). The ".drv" file is not even a "nix" expression: so it sure is *not* the "derivation".
<dminuoso> grw: Did you ever actually verify that it actually changes firewall settings?
<grw> yes, hence my removing it after locking myself out one-too-many times :)
<dminuoso> grw: Curious. Did you ever explicitly specify a banaction?
<grw> was all i needed
<dminuoso> grw: Fair enough, that one lists an explicit banaction
<dminuoso> Oh wow!
<dminuoso> I think I just spotted my dumb and silly mistake.
<slack1256> When installing `nix-env -iA nixos.androidenv.androidPkgs_9_0.androidsdk` I get the message `by setting nixpkgs config option 'android_sdk.accept_license = true;`. Changing that on .nixpkgs/config has no effect, where should I put that?
<dminuoso> fail2ban is so relaxed.. its like JavaScript - it doesnt error out when it should, and when it should it silently does the wrong thing.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed to master « libechonest: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 (#71525) »: https://git.io/JeRni
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #71525 → libechonest: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 → https://git.io/JeRYp
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71551 → duo-unix: 1.11.2 -> 1.11.3 → https://git.io/JeRn5
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<AmandaC> ,locate lib/libstdc++.so.6
<{^_^}> Found in packages: robo3t, gcc-unwrapped.lib
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71526 → calcurse: 4.5.0 -> 4.5.1 → https://git.io/JeROt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « calcurse: 4.5.0 -> 4.5.1 »: https://git.io/JeRcZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71508 → podman: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 → https://git.io/JeRIg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @saschagrunert to master « podman: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 »: https://git.io/JeRcn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71512 → dbeaver: 6.2.2 -> 6.2.3 → https://git.io/JeRLI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @jojosch to master « dbeaver: 6.2.2 -> 6.2.3 »: https://git.io/JeRcC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71555 → tridactyl-native: 1.16.3 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JeRcW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus merged pull request #71386 → docker-runc: switch to OCI runc 1.0.0-rc8+dev (security) → https://git.io/JeB2G
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeRc8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to release-19.09 « Merge pull request #71386 from d-goldin/docker_runc_cve »: https://git.io/JeRcB
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<sb0> where does nix-build store the SSH host keys for remote hosts?
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<gchristensen> if you're using the nix daemon, it uses the root user's SSH config
<sb0> my remote build is failing with "cannot build on 'ssh://nix@rpi-2': cannot connect to 'nix@rpi-2': Host key verification failed." and I don't know where to edit the known_host files to fix that
<sb0> ah, ok
<sb0> and it does need an entry and doesn't add the keys by default
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<sb0> thz
<sb0> *thx
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<gchristensen> yep
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<Total17> Hello! Video thumbnails in Caja file manager not working, ffmpegthumbnailer installed. I need add ffmpegthumbnailer.thumbnailer manually?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed to master « libcutl: fix regex »: https://git.io/JeRci
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<tetdim> Ericson2314, clever, https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/3160 :^)
<{^_^}> nix#3160 (by p01arst0rm, 1 minute ago, open): added meson support
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<slack1256> Where should `android_sdk.accept_license = true;` be put?
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<iMatejC> slack1256: depends how you are installing, in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix if on NixOS and you are installing systemwide... or in ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix if you are installing with nix-env -i ...
<slack1256> Setting up on ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix didn't have an effect. I'll try global.
<{^_^}> [nixops-aws] @tewfik-ghariani opened pull request #5 → Tag ec2 snaps with deployment name #4 → https://git.io/JeRWC
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<iMatejC> slack1256: can you reveal to me how did you put the option in the config.nix?
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<slack1256> I'll paste, give me a sec
<iMatejC> do not paste here :P
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<slack1256> I am not that noob :-/
<slack1256> An android_sdk options doesn't appear on configuration.nix .
<iMatejC> that option seem to be in the right place
<iMatejC> how are you installing the android_sdk
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<slack1256> nix-env -iA nixos.androidenv.androidPkgs_9_0.androidsdk
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<leo_> Is it abuse to use nixops deployment.keys to set some config files (especially at HOME)?
<leo_> I don't want to use home-manager.
<leo_> e.g gitconfig, .ssh/config, ssh keys ...
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<iMatejC> slack1256: investigating... wait
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<slack1256> iMatejC: Thank you, I am also reading the nixpkgs files
<iMatejC> slack1256: btw, in configuration.nix ... it should be... nixpkgs.config.android_sdk.accept_license = true; but imho it should work with home located config.nix
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71562 → fdk_aac: 2.0.0 -> 2.0.1 → https://git.io/JeRW1
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<iMatejC> slack1256: i have bad news for you, I replicated part of a part of an issue - the part that is not building if option is missing, but one I put the { android_sdk.accept_license = true; } in the .nixpkgs/config.nix... started building
<slack1256> Mmmm I will go by the configuration.nix path, and see if works
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<slack1256> Hey iMatejC, thank you.
<iMatejC> if you gonna put the option inside configuration.nix... then put the package to environment.systemPackages = [ ... ];
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #71564 → Backport of mupdf to address various CVEs → https://git.io/JeRW5
<iMatejC> slack1256: and rebuild switch
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<slack1256> Got it!
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<iMatejC> leo_: why no home-manager? :(
<iMatejC> leo_: btw I would like to see how you doing that with nixops
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<iMatejC> (I also do not use home-manager myself, because at the time when I needed that solution, there where no home-manager ... so I made my own)
<waleee-cl> anyone got a working ffmpeg configuration with nvenc/cuvid etc?
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<waleee-cl> My attempts have resulted in many a "libcuda.so.1 not found" at this point
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<leo_> iMatejC: I don't know
<leo_> Just a big dependency it seems.
<leo_> Maybe in the near future.
<leo_> I'll send you. :)
<leo_> Just a sec.
<iMatejC> ok
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<Yaniel> nilsirl[m]: still haven't had any gl problems with obs, and now I figured out the nvenc thing too
<Yaniel> had to add /run/opengl-driver/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
<Yaniel> so basically the addopenglrunpath thing again
<Ariakenom> whats the format used for i18n.consoleFont?
<Yaniel> nilsirl[m]: where did you try adding the runpath? it has to be added to the binary or library that actually tries to access the graphics driver libs
<iMatejC> Hey, people! I just moved to Finland/Helsinki (btw any Nix-ified Finnish people on this channel?) where I started a DevOps consultant job. And since I use Nix/NixOS I have to tell that to everyone, ... soooo... in January I will have an internal Nix hype or so called slide-show thingie infront of 300 employees.. and since not all are DevOps and not all can be present at the time, I am expecting at max 50people
<iMatejC> to be present and some more remotely... so my question is ... how can i get/buy some swag (stickers and stuff) for those people?
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<Yaniel> hey o/
<iMatejC> hey :)
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<iMatejC> Yaniel: you in Finland or just hey-ing for the sake of hey-ing?
<Yaniel> the former
<iMatejC> nice
<Yaniel> also did some stealth(ish) nixos stuff at a former job
<neminis> hello, during an install phase, a software requires a license to be accepted in terminal, but when nix builds the derivation i cannot scroll down and accept the license, how can i do that?
<Yaniel> neminis: it likely has a -y flag to auto-accept
<iMatejC> neminis: in any of build phases there is no interactive mode, at least it should not be
<dminuoso> iMatejC: You could just make them yourself I guess.
<red[m]> Howdy!
<iMatejC> dminuoso: you mean the 3d printer? I do not have it here in Finland, yet
<neminis> yeah that's the problem it's not made to be interactive so i cannot do anything it just hangs
<dminuoso> iMatejC: Heh Ive 3d printed some Haskell logos, great swag. :)
<dminuoso> iMatejC: I meant having stickers made is an easy task.
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<dminuoso> iMatejC: 3d printed swag is going to be very expensive mostly because all customer grade 3d printers have extremely low volume/time rates.
<iMatejC> red[m]: howdy is not Finnish so much? or I am missing something?
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<iMatejC> dminuoso: yeah
<dminuoso> iMatejC: Say I was willing to print some for you, it might be on the order of 5-10 bucks each (depending on size and multi-color) plus shipping.
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<iMatejC> dminuoso: you mean stickers?
<dminuoso> iMatejC: No I mean things like..
<dminuoso> iMatejC: Your thing https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2755596
<dminuoso> iMatejC: (This looks like it should be printed on a brim by the way)
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<dminuoso> Or is there bridges in between?
<iMatejC> they are bridges
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<dminuoso> Let me slice that
<leo_> iMatejC: This is how it looks like.
<iMatejC> when I printed that, came out perfectly without any brim or raft
<leo_> Just a sketch.
<dminuoso> iMatejC: Right
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<leo_> I'll add `deployment.keys.".gitconfig"` with `destDir = leoHome;` for instance
<leo_> Am I abusing it? D:
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<leo_> I'll also config a `ProxyCommand` in leo's ssh config to use 2fa with github ssh (instead of only the private key)
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<dminuoso> iMatejC: Ahh its much more harmless.
<infinisil> leo_: keys won't be in the system build
<infinisil> So if you roll back into another generation you won't have the old configs
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<leo_> !
<leo_> Good point.
<leo_> That's where home-manager shines, right?
<infinisil> Yeah, or you can also abuse `systemd.tmpfiles.rules` for this
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<neminis> what is the nix command to install only the dependencies of a package?
<dminuoso> Is that even possible?
<iMatejC> neminis: take a look at nix-shell
<neminis> idk
<neminis> okay ty
<infinisil> leo_: Something like `systemd.tmpfiles.rules = [ "L+ /dest/dir - - - - ${writeText ...}" ]`
<infinisil> (untested)
<dminuoso> iMatejC: Check pm by the way, I could print some if you want. :)
<leo_> infinisil: I'll dig that. .-.
<iMatejC> dminuoso: will check in a sec
<iMatejC> Yaniel: btw where are you located, I have an apartment in Espoo but is in /tmp?
<Yaniel> TRE
<iMatejC> TRE?
<leo_> infinisil: Any reason why keys are not deleted automatically with the corresponding config?
<leo_> Or as you mentioned, no "key rollback capability"? Too complex?
<leo_> Sorry for the newb questions.
<Yaniel> Tampere
<infinisil> Gotta put stuff in the nix store to have rollbacks
<infinisil> And the nix store is globally readable
<infinisil> Which is a no-go for secrets
<leo_> Got it.
<leo_> You're too eloquent. .-.
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<leo_> infinisil++
<{^_^}> infinisil's karma got increased to 151
<infinisil> :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71569 → fstrm: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JeR8E
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #71550 → ffmpegthumbnailer: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.2 → https://git.io/JeRnD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « ffmpegthumbnailer: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.2 »: https://git.io/JeR8z
<iMatejC> Yaniel: hmm, that is a bit far for me XD I do not have a car, I completely rely on public transport
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<blitzclone_> Anyone knows what's keeping the channels from updating?
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<ShaRose> infinisil btw, after a while I did a bit of digging on that dnsdist issue: it seems like CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE isn't taking effect since ports over 1023 work fine. I also tried listening on different addresses (such as the actual main nic address).
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71570 → iosevka-bin: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.2 → https://git.io/JeR8V
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<ShaRose> OH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @d-goldin opened pull request #71571 → pango: 1.43.0 -> 1.44.6, fixes CVE-2019-1010238 → https://git.io/JeR8o
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<infinisil> ShaRose: I think above 1023 you don't need special privileges to bind ports
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<infinisil> So CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE shouldn't be needed there
<ShaRose> it's DNS, it should be on port 53
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<ShaRose> I figured it out though
<ShaRose> adding systemd.services.dnsdist.serviceConfig.AmbientCapabilities = "CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE"; fixes it
<ShaRose> I wasn't crazy!
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<infinisil> Huh, did you not have that already?
<ShaRose> it doesn't, no
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<ShaRose> it's in CapabilityBoundingSet but not Ambient
<infinisil> Ah, it was in CapabilityBoundingSet
<infinisil> Cool, glad you figured it out :D
<infinisil> I should read up on the difference between the two
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<ShaRose> dnsdist probably doesn't actually request the capability
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<ShaRose> with that all SAID, should I just open an issue or just a pull request for this now that I know exactly what the issue is?
<edef> if you have a fix, just a PR is fine
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<ShaRose> hmm. With this, is it something that needs extensive testing before the PR?
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<infinisil> ShaRose: Ah!
<infinisil> They're opposites, damn
<ShaRose> yeah, that's why I linked that post
<infinisil> Yeah I read it from there
<ShaRose> makes me curious if it actually needs CAP_SETGID or CAP_SETUID since as it is they aren't used
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<infinisil> I don't think they're needed because it's not running as root anyways, just as a normal DynamicUser
<infinisil> Not sure though
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<ShaRose> afaik those are used for when you pass --uid whatever
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<ShaRose> yep, seems it work
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<bsima> how am i getting 'makeWrapper: command not found' in an install phase?
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<clever> bsima: you have to add makeWrapper to your inputs
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<bsima> oh, i thought it was part of the regular environment
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<arcnmx> makeWrapper may not have been added to nativeBuildInputs?
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<infinisil> ShaRose: Does it make sense for it to be in both CapabilityBoundingSet and AmbientCapabilities?
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<arcnmx> https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#ssec-stdenv-functions is pretty misleading, because yeah iirc it's not actually a part of stdenv
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<arcnmx> (maybe it was in the past?)
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<ShaRose> infinisil not sure, I know the bounding set limits it but I'm not sure if ambient just assumes it's bounded or not
<ShaRose> figured it couldn't hurt
<ShaRose> like I said, I removed the stuff I KNOW isn't needed but if I'm not sure I left it alone
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #71570 → iosevka-bin: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.2 → https://git.io/JeR8V
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<{^_^}> [nix] @volth closed pull request #3093 → lexer: restrict escape sequences to only meaningful ones → https://git.io/JeRRW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71581 → fuse-overlayfs: 0.6.2 -> 0.6.4 → https://git.io/JeRR8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71559 → fanficfare: 3.11.0 -> 3.12.0 → https://git.io/JeRCh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #71555 → tridactyl-native: 1.16.3 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JeRcW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cpages merged pull request #71469 → openxcom: 1.0.0.2018.10.08 -> 1.0.0.2019.10.18 → https://git.io/JeBxR
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<buckley310> is it abnormal to use a FQDN as networking.hostName? it seems like this configuration conbined with the avahi defaults causes avahi to complain and die at bootup. I've applied this generalized workaround and it seems to make it happy: avahi.hostName = builtins.head (pkgs.lib.splitString "." config.networking.hostName);
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<buckley310> looks like i can acomplish the same by just setting the base name as the hostname, and then populating "networking.search", thats just not what i'm used to...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #71573 → unixODBCDrivers.msodbcsql17: add missing openssl dependency → https://git.io/JeR8N
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<symphorien> buckley310: there is networking.domain for the . part
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<buckley310> ahhh, okay
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #71542 → diffoscope: 125 -> 126 → https://git.io/JeRZf
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<judson_> I can't seem to get a nix-shell interpreter script to ignore the shell.nix present in the current directory.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #71561 → pantheon.elementary-wallpapers: 5.3 -> 5.4 → https://git.io/JeRW8
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<iMatejC> dminuoso: nixos keychain? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3929958
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<judson_> I'm on nix-shell 2.2.2 and I'm finding that it always loads shell.nix, regardless of arguments.
<judson_> I tried giving it a minimal file (nix-shell /tmp/empty.nix) and after parsing that (derivation { ... }) it then loads shell.nix anyway.
<judson_> It also does this in shebang mode, which is more troubling.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus opened pull request #71586 → Writers → https://git.io/JeR0D
<judson_> Or does the shellHook somehow linger?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71587 → gallery-dl: 1.10.3 -> 1.10.6 → https://git.io/JeR0y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth closed pull request #71582 → writeC: fix escape → https://git.io/JeRR4
<ivan> while looking into that I discovered that nix-shell segfaults if you give it an empty file
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #71546 → pantheon.elementary-camera: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5 → https://git.io/JeRZ1
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<ivan> judson_: not seeing that behavior when providing a filename on nix-shell (Nix) 2.3
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<judson_> Hm. I'm working on a project with a shellHook, which is what I'm seeing happen.
<judson_> I wonder if that isn't clearing somehow?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #71547 → nixos/seahorse: Use seahorse's askpass by default → https://git.io/JeRnJ
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<p01ar> Ericson2314 around?
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<alexherbo2> does Firefox packages default to the developer version or unbranded version?
<alexherbo2> in https://github.com/alexherbo2/krabby/issues/1 I'm able to install unsigned extensions so I didn’t notice Firefox needed one of the two versions
<{^_^}> alexherbo2/krabby#1 (by JJK96, 11 hours ago, open): [Firefox] installing unsigned extension requires developer version
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71590 → ginac: 1.7.7 -> 1.7.8 → https://git.io/JeREo
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<johnw> gchristensen: ping
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wamserma opened pull request #71591 → pythonPackages.sphinxcontrib-applehelp: init at 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JeRuO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #71596 → git-secret: 0.3.1 -> 0.3.2 → https://git.io/JeRuV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #71450 → zabbix: init at 4.4.0 → https://git.io/JeBdr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #71460 → softmaker-office: fix product unlock error → https://git.io/JeBbk
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