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<nh2> clever: hmm, so far I have no luck on the OVH server. Even the normal NixOS install doesn't work. In EFI boot mode, it claims nothing is found. In LEGACY boot mode, I get just a black screen.
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<clever> nh2: what is boot.loader.grub.device set to?
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<nh2> clever: `boot.loader.grub.devices = ["/dev/sda""/dev/sdb""/dev/sdc""/dev/sdd"];`
<nh2> (with proper spaces in between)
<clever> nh2: have you tried it with just one entry, on the same device as a single /boot partition?
<nh2> clever: actually, now that you say it, I forgot to include the SSD I'm using as `/` (and `/boot` on the same partition) :| Would still be surprised why that would matter, as usually installing Grub to a different device than what's / or /boot works, but certainly not intended
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<clever> nh2: where are you getting a black screen, how are you looking at the monitor?
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<nh2> clever: with the server's IPMI KVM
<clever> ah
<clever> no kvm access on my ovh box
<nh2> (alias web- or java- based remote VGA)
<clever> ive had to use activex *barf* based KVM before, lol
<nh2> clever: by now OVH has at least 4 offerings that I know of: normal OVH (what I'm using now), Kimsufi, Soyoustart and OVH Cloud
<clever> i think i'm on soyoustart
<nh2> they are all wonderfully French, e.g. the rescue mode is like "Pas de carte raid dans le serveur"
<samueldr> what's the issue with that? ;)
<clever> nh2: why are you setting the grub device to 4 different drives? and what is special with / and /boot ?
<samueldr> with kimsufi I had to make my own kvm with qemu and vnc(+ssh) to install nixos
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<samueldr> it's so nice how Linux doesn't really care on what hardware it runs
<nh2> nothing, it's just very entertaining because of this mix. For example, there's this half-French-English boot screen in an unquittable pager of a file named /tmp/do_it_for_me.out :D
<clever> samueldr: i once moved a win95 machine to a nearly identical laptop, and it never ran right since
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<nh2> also, the decision of whether they send you things like the rescue mode's password email in English or French seems to be made by a random number generator
<nh2> the first 10 such emails I got were English, now it's suddenly French
<samueldr> weird, though I never used OVH outright, it always ends up in english in my e-mails (I think)
<samueldr> though sometimes it's hard to tell :/
<zeta_0> hello guys, how do i setup use-package correctly in .emacs being that i installed emacs with nix? i am a little confused on the instructions: https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package
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<zeta_0> so basically i just need to remove this line right?
<zeta_0> (add-to-list 'load-path "<path where use-package is installed>")
<clever> nh2: what FS is / on? is there any raid involved?
<pie_> raid decides whether the emails are english or french
<nh2> clever: currently not. This machine has 1 SSD + 4 HDs. I put on the HDs (partitions -> mdadm RAID -> LUKS -> LVM -> ext4), but the SSD is just a plain (partitions -> ext4).
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<clever> nh2: i would try adding the SSD to the devices
<nh2> clever: yes that's what I'm currently doing, now rebooting with best hopes
<samueldr> hmmm... confused about the output of why-depends here https://gist.github.com/samueldr/97ae4c4075b241b47134d7df1710f4ae
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<jackdk> zeta_0: Personally the emacs I have installed was the result of an emacsWithPackages call, including use-package and whatever else I like. then I turn on the package system here: https://git.sr.ht/~jack/nix-overlay/tree/master/jack-emacs/default.el/default.nix#L24
<clever> samueldr: the paths of the inputs appear within the disk image file, so the disk image depends on its inputs
<nh2> I really wonder what these server boards are doing to boot this slowly, on most of my servers it's like 2 minutes at the "BIOS screen"
<samueldr> hmmm... yeah... though I would have expected to see the tree leading to the need for python
* samueldr spies --all in --help
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<samueldr> right, much better
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<zeta_0> jackdk: so from what line to what line are the configuration settings for use-package?
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<jackdk> 26-30 I think. it should already be in load-path if you did an emacsWithPackages to build your emacs
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<zeta_0> jackdk: well, i just installed emacs and installed use-package in home.nix: https://hastebin.com/podisotemi.pl
<mac10688> hi all. I want to create a dual boot for my system76 linux machine to run nixos. I was wondering what steps I need to take. I believe I need to make sure I have a second partition and grub right?
<clever> mac10688: what is the other OS?
<mac10688> ubuntu
<mac10688> I know there are lots of guides out there for this kind of stuff but I just want a high level idea of what i'm about to do before I start going through google searches.
<mac10688> I think my plan is good. I can use gparted to make sure i have partitioned space and then liveboot with the usb and install on that partition
<mac10688> and to install on that partition it looks like I'll have to read quite a bit from the manual because I saw someone do it on youtube and it didn't look so newbie friendly
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<nh2> clever: dammit still no luck. It boots the rEFInd boot manager, which says "Chain on hard drive failed. Next". But the output also suggests it's pulling that manager via PXE, which isn't really my understanding of the OVH web panel's option box "Boot from hard disk". The BIOS boot menu doesn't list the SSD as all, only the 4 HDs.
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<samueldr> refind means it's UEFI booting
<samueldr> you were installing as legacy IIRC, wouldn't that be an issue?
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<clever> nh2: yeah, sounds like you want to go into the bios, and turn off efi booting
<nh2> yes, I did that, unfortunately the SSD doesn't appear as a boot device at all
<clever> nh2: what type of ssd is it?
<nh2> clever: /dev/nvme0n1, so probably some PCIe device
<clever> nh2: nvme cant boot via legacy, only efi
<clever> nh2: also, if you put grub on the non-nvme disk, it cant access a nvme /boot while booting
<clever> that likely explains all of your problems
<clever> grub technically doesnt support nvme, it relies on the EFI firmware to provide nvme drivers
<clever> but if your booting in legacy, it cant access the EFI firmware
<nh2> clever: yeah, that makes sense. I'd still expect the legacy mode to be able to at least load grub from the SATA HDs, but I guess I'll try a full EFI setup first
<clever> so you need a /boot partition on the non-nvme disk, or switch to efi
<clever> the grub on in the bios-boot-partition will fail to load the bulk of grub, and drop you into a rescue shell with very limited capability
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<nh2> clever: that's not what I get though, only black screen so far. Also, is having a 1MB BIOS boot partition not enough to make the grub work normally?
<clever> nh2: i think it only needs ~30kb
<clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26K Sep 17 2018 /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img
<clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.9K Sep 17 2018 /boot/grub/i386-pc/ext2.mod
<clever> nh2: basically, grub will merge the core and the driver for the /boot fs, then write the merged result into the bios-boot-partition
<clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Sep 17 2018 /boot/grub/i386-pc/boot.img
<clever> nh2: and then it will merge boot.img and your MBR together, and update the offset/length that refer to the bios-boot-partition
<clever> combined, that is enough to find /boot, and read more files at runtime
<clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 113K Sep 17 2018 /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod
<clever> nh2: then it loads the normal module, which upgrades grub from the bare-bones rescue mode, to a fairly fully functioning grub (adds help, and tab completion)
<clever> after that, its all fairly obvious stuff, based on insmod cmds in grub.cfg
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<habbah> I want to build my project with a dependency for a library which uses an older version of aeson, but I personally want to use the newer version in my own code. Is this possible with nix?
<clever> habbah: haskell.lib.doJailbreak
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<kaliumxyz> whats your opinion, running kali in a vm vs running it using docker?
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<emptyflask> I can't seem to find any info on adding a self-signed SSL cert for *.localhost development. ACME seems to only be useful for real domains...
<emptyflask> is there a declarative way to do this?
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<emptyflask> maybe just security.pki.certificateFiles = ["${pkgs.cacert}/etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt" "other.crt"]
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<emptyflask> not sure about the certificate keys though. perhaps I should just dump the files somewhere and point nginx to them manually
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a5d19a22b5e (from 61 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<fresheyeball> {pkgs,...}: works
<fresheyeball> but x: x.pkgs doesn't?
<fresheyeball> what am I missing?
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<immae> fresheyeball: are you using it with callPackage? If so, it "studies" the function arguments, so it’s not exactly equivalent
<immae> (and maybe other function do that too)
<fresheyeball> I mean just from a syntax perspective
<fresheyeball> I would expec
<fresheyeball> {pkgs}: pkgs
<fresheyeball> and
<fresheyeball> x: x.pkgs
<fresheyeball> to be the same statement
<fresheyeball> err expression
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<immae> There are ways to look (and override) arguments, so it’s not equivalent actually
<immae> in particular callPackage, which is used in many places, will look at all the elements of the first argument and add them automatically
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<dminuoso> What is the exact semantic difference? If I apply some Haskell thinking I'd guess that `{pkgs}: pkgs` is strict in its argument, but `x: x.pkgs` is not - though this exactly is lacking to demonstrate the difference.
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<fresheyeball> right they should be the same
<immae> dminuoso: fresheyeball the content is the same. You can look at the callPackage definition (lib/customization.nix) but it’s not very easy to read. To sum up, if you have a nix expression of the form "{a, b}: (...)", then `callPackage thatExpr {}` will inspect that expression, see the a and b, and make as if you called thatExpr with {a=pkgs.a; b=pkgs.b}
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<immae> so it’s not equivalent to having `x: (...)`, in which case callPackage is not able to inspect x
<immae> though `thatExpr { a = "something"; b = "something" }` is exactly equivalent wether you wrote it as `{ a, b, ... }:` or `x:`
<immae> It’s only some functions that will inspect the arguments, and callPackage is the one that is used almost everywhere
<fresheyeball> so lets say I have
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<fresheyeball> ok I think I see
<fresheyeball> actually yeah ok
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<immae> dminuoso: the difference with haskell is that the arguments are opaque. To find a remote analogy, in haskell you cannot know from a caller point of view if the function you’re calling was defined as `foo Bar{..} = (use Bar’s elements)` or as `foo bar = (call some functions on bar)`, and it usually doesn’t make sense to wonder about that. In nix you can
<dminuoso> immae: Curious
<dminuoso> immae: Doesn't the ability to make that distinction break referential transparency?
<immae> dminuoso: maybe, but I don’t know the term "referential transparency" :)
<bahamas> is there a quick way to see a function's definition?
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<immae> dminuoso: according to the wikipedia definition, yes you cannot refactor a nix expression in any way you want (in particular, the arguments)
<immae> so you don’t have referential transparency
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<immae> if you replace `{ nodejs }: (use nodejs here)` with `{ glibc }: (use glibc here)` then you’ll end up with a completely different result
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<dminuoso> immae: The wikipedia definition is particularly bad, sadly.
<immae> ok
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<dminuoso> immae: A consequence of (not a definition) referential transparency is being able to replace any term with its definition.
<immae> well, in that case you can
<vmandela> how to I get the .deb file for nixpkgs installation on a ubuntu system. https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/nix_2.2.1-2.html does not have a download link
<dminuoso> immae: In case you are curious by the way, this gives a compact summary of what referential transparency is, and where you can read more about it: https://stackoverflow.com/a/9859966
<immae> dminuoso: The function will always return the same thing if you call it with same arguments (as far as I know), the only problem is that the variable names in the argument of the function arguments are important
<immae> thanks I’ll have a look
<dminuoso> immae: No it's about something different.
<dminuoso> immae: What you refer to is purity, and that's somewhat orthogonal to referential transparency
<immae> (in fresheyeball’s question, it’s the caller that is calling the expression with different arguments)
<dminuoso> You can have one without the other. :)
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<dminuoso> immae: well if a caller can inspect how a term is implemented, then you lose some referential transparency.
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<johnw> is Timo Kaufmann here?
<immae> dminuoso: then yes it breaks referential transparency
<dminuoso> immae: If we extend the examples from the SO answer, you'd get: "The first letter of the term <The capital of Scotland> is T"
<dminuoso> And that's obviously a different sentence from "The first letter of the term <Edinburgh> is T"
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<immae> yes
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<bahamas> is there a way to see the source of a derivation (in an easy to read manner)?
<immae> bahamas: is looking at its source not sufficient?
<bahamas> immae: you mean the source on my machine or on nixpgks-channels? I remembered just now about the latter option
<bahamas> immae: ideally, I would want to see the source of the derivation that nix is trying to build on my computer and that it's failing
<li_matrix> the nix code source or the derivation's `src` attribute?
<li_matrix> you can `nix build nixpkgs.hello.src` to see the latter
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<fresheyeball> oh lovely
<fresheyeball> my configuration.nix is now just a builtins.fetchGit
<li_matrix> the former is just a big repo which you ought to navigate
<li_matrix> well, nixpkgs is big anyhow
<bahamas> li_matrix: the nix code source
<bahamas> li_matrix: if you're looking for a specific version of a derivation, how do you do it?
<immae> bahamas: you can see the derivation itself with nix show-derivation /nix/store/the-derivation-that-failed.drv
<li_matrix> you could probably return that programmatically from nix but I just search the tree
<li_matrix> there ya go ^
<bahamas> immae: aha. I didn't know about nix show-derivation. thanks!
<immae> otherwise, if you’re building say package foo, you can see where it is in the nix repl by looking at foo.meta
<immae> It will give you a path to the file that lead to that derivation
<li_matrix> since I usually end up editing it, Ill open my dev tree
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<bahamas> immae: you mean the "position" field of the set returned by .meta? I tried it on pkgs.haskellPackages.mtl
<immae> I meant that yes bahamas but it may not work everywhere
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<immae> (mtl is empty for me, so it has no "meta")
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<immae> But for instance pkgs.haskellPackages.mtl-c.meta.position says that it is in /nix/store/80mja9vp5x1akvwk4b54hs8mcm8zvdyq-nixexprs.tar.xz/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix:155857 in my case
<bahamas> immae: yeah, the output looks similar for me. namely, a line number in hackage-packages.nix.
<immae> yep
<immae> Isn’t it what you wanted bahamas?
<bahamas> immae: yes, it is. thank you.
<immae> cool
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<bahamas> so, here's my situation. the project that I'm trying to build relies indirectly on a library called jvm-batching. it's a mixed (Haskell and Java) library. the build process of the library relies on gradle. I assume that the derivation should have gradle in "inputDrvs", no? it doesn't currently
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<immae> bahamas: I don’t know about gradle/java in particular, but many "package manager" in nix have a packagemanager2nix utility that will build an expression that permits to build derivations without that package manager
<immae> you should check in that direction for gradle, maybe that’s why it’s absent
<bahamas> immae: in this particular case, the build fails because `cabal` can't find the `gradle` executable.
<bahamas> so I'm assuming the binary needs to be present
<immae> Ok, then just add it. It may be needed for other tasks than just building the derivation (seems to be the case for you)
<immae> but it’s also possible that cabal shouldn’t call gradle at all, you’ll have to dig into that
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<immae> (that’s very dependent on what you’re trying to build here)
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<bahamas> immae: basically, I'm trying to use this project https://github.com/tweag/sparkle (it allows you to run Haskell code on Apache Spark). the way it currently works, it forces you to put your project inside `sparkle` and it builds it with stack. I want to make my project build standalone and only specify sparkle as a dependency
<bahamas> the build error might have something to do with the fact that sparkle is using a custom build setup.
<immae> Hmm I already heard someone talking (and I tried to help) about sparkle on this chan, could you have a look at the logs maybe?
<immae> (not sure it is relevant, but it’s worth trying :p )
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<bahamas> immae: I see a question from 2016, but no one answered it
<immae> much more recent, I’m only a few months old nix user :p
<immae> Ah it was already you, at the beginning of the month
<bahamas> immae: I seem to have found a way around that issue. now the situation is that I have to use a more recent version for a bunch of libraries. is my only option to create a nix file for each or is there something easier?
<arianvp> The authors of sparkle are heavy nix users and are even in this channel iirc
<bahamas> they all have the same version, because they're autogenerated from the same repo.
<bahamas> arianvp: I guess they're just busy or maybe in different timezones
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vdemeester opened pull request #62286 → minishift: 1.33.0 -> 1.34.0 → https://git.io/fj05f
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<immae> bahamas: you can override existing libraries if you want, but it’s probably easier to rewrite them. There may be tools that make that easy, though
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<hyper_ch2> gchristensen: howdy
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<kaliumxyz> what if I let nix manage the users of my service?
<kaliumxyz> is there some way to add new users by just building without having to rebuild?
<kaliumxyz> if modules can do it it should be plausable.
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj05q
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #2903 → Add "nix flake check" → https://git.io/fj0lx
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 11 commits to flakes: https://git.io/fj05m
<kaliumxyz> slightly related: what are some ideas for using nixops with a team?
<kaliumxyz> I was thinking of just using a nixops user on a builder VPS.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vdemeester opened pull request #62287 → skopeo: 0.1.35 -> 0.1.36 → https://git.io/fj05O
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<bahamas> immae: what do you mean by rewriting them?
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #2904 → Rename requires -> inputs, provides -> outputs → https://git.io/fj084
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<immae> bahamas: I meant taking the libraries from their original location, and adjusting them to upgrade the version. From what I saw the haskell libraries derivations are very succint
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<bahamas> immae: ok. that's what I did, namely I created nix files for all of them. I thought maybe you meant something else
<immae> No, I don’t have a better suggestion
<bahamas> it's ok. it works. I'm now back to my build failing because of gradle
<immae> bahamas: Is cabal trying to use gradle to build the package? If so, you should modify it to not build it, since it is already
<immae> (If I understood correctly your attempt)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #61485 → neovim-unwrapped: don't fix cmake → https://git.io/fjWbc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed to master « neovim-unwrapped: don't fix cmake »: https://git.io/fj05c
<bahamas> immae: it's not built already. it needs to build it, because it's a dependency
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<immae> but the dependency is a nix derivation?
<immae> bahamas:^
<bahamas> immae: yes
<immae> and it’s that dependency that fails, not the parent one, right?
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<bahamas> immae: sparkle needs jvm-streaming which needs jvm-batching. the last one fails
<bahamas> maybe jvm-streaming will fail as well, but I haven't gotten that far :)
<immae> I can try to have a look if you share your jvm-batching derivation (and its dependencies), but I never built any java thing so far so I cannot promise I’ll be able to help
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<bahamas> immae: ok, I made gradle available in the jvm-batching derivation and it moved past that step. now it's a different error
<bahamas> thank you for trying to help
<immae> you’re welcome :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 closed pull request #56184 → systemd: 239.20190219 -> 241.20190221 → https://git.io/fj05X
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #62290 → php: 7.1.29 -> 7.1.30, 7.2.18 -> 7.2.19, 7.3.5 -> 7.3.6 → https://git.io/fj051
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<colemickens> I need to run something with LD_PRELOAD=... libasan.so, how do I do that in NixOS?
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<Shoubit> colemickens, one way is to use makeWrapper/wrapProgram
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<kaliumxyz> can I use an alternative port for ssh with nixops?
<colemickens> in this case, it's a on etime thing, so I'm hoping for something like `LD_PRELOAD="$(nix-instantiate .... gcc) command"`
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<cinimod> the package cmdstan is defined twice: once as pkgs/development/compilers/cmdstan/default.nix and once as pkgs/applications/science/stats/cmdstan/default.nix
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<tilpner> cinimod: There is no pkgs/applications/science/stats
<immae> kaliumxyz: there is a targetPort config, but the port 22 is hardcoded in many places in nixops so I wouldn’t recommend changing it
<immae> (some of those hardcoded places are to check when the machine is up, for instance)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #62291 → [19.03] php: 7.1.29 -> 7.1.30, 7.2.18 -> 7.2.19, 7.3.5 -> 7.3.6 → https://git.io/fj0dv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #62292 → [18.09] php: 7.1.29 -> 7.1.30, 7.2.18 -> 7.2.19 → https://git.io/fj0df
<cinimod> tilpner: my bad: there was a pkgs/applications/science/stats and it still seems to be sitting in my copy of nixpkgs
<cinimod> I am happy to hear there is only one - a new release of stan is out 2.19.1 and I am now just building it
<cinimod> Do I submit a PR to update nixpkgs (assuming it builds of course)?
<etu> cinimod: Yep, feel free to make a PR :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #62293 → gitea: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/fj0dc
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<Alling> OK, I'm lost again, chat. :P
<Alling> I'll present my thesis the upcoming Wednesday. Overleaf has decided not to work, so I'd like to work on my laptop instead. I have LaTeX working. But I can't get more than 1024x768 on my Asus Swift PG278Q.
<goibhniu1> Alling: are you sure you're using the right GPU?
<Alling> It worked on an identical monitor, like, two days ago, but I've rebuilt NixOS since and maybe that changed something. At least xrandr says XWAYLAND2 instead of DP1 like before. The xrandr commands I used to add 2560x1440 as a resolution do not work anymore. I found a guide for Wayland though:
<Alling> https://blogs.nologin.es/rickyepoderi/index.php?/archives/149-Custom-mode-lines-in-Wayland.html
<Alling> goibhniu1: Yeah, my laptop has only Intel HD 620.
<goibhniu1> ah, cool
<Alling> But the guide says I should copy files to /lib/firmware/edid, which does not exist in NixOS. What should I do instead?
<Alling> Or, more generally: How do I get 1440p on a PG278Q on Intel HD 620 with Wayland on NixOS? :D
<yorick> should callCabal2Nix be super or self?
<marek> how to allowUnfree in hydra for the builds?
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<srhb> marek: hydra.nixos.org? That will not happen.
<srhb> yorick: Or, in other words, if it does the same thing as callPackage, use self.
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<srhb> yorick: Wait, other way around.
<srhb> :P
<marek> srhb: no, an internal hydra instance
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<srhb> marek: Ah, just import your nixpkgs with config.allowUnfree = true
<marek> pkgs = import ./.. {config = { allowUnfree = true; }; };
<marek> I'm doing this but it fails with
<marek> Failed to evaluate «name-missing»: «unfree»: has an unfree license (‘unfree’)
<srhb> marek: Need more context probably :) Looks right from a first glance.
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<yorick> srhb: thanks?
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<marek> and I'm trying to rebuild exodus
<__monty__> ./..?
<marek> I got that from an example somewhere:)
<marek> but it works fine so far
<__monty__> Then I'm sure it's fine, just used to seeing ./.
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<marek> I have tried pkgs = import ./.. {config.allowUnfree = true;};
<marek> as well as pkgs = import ./.. {config = { allowUnfree = true; }; };
<srhb> marek: One thing I notice is that you don't seem to be using pkgs for anything but lib
<srhb> marek: So the one place where you've allowed unfree is in lib -- which is irrelevant.
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<srhb> marek: The expression is a bit convoluted (I'd simplify from scratch if I were you) but I think you're getting all the packages from your nixos' attrset, so that's where you want to allow unfree.
<srhb> Or, hm, maybe from nixpkgs'
<srhb> Not sure :)
<srhb> Try using nixpkgsArgs in the import for nixpkgs'.
<Shoubit> How do I load configuration.nix in a user nix repl?
<dminuoso> Shoubit: configuration.nix is a nixos module, what do you expect that to do?
<dminuoso> (or at least its the filename of a common nixos module, and I assume you refer to /etc/nixos/configuration.nix)
<srhb> Something like... nixos = import <nixpkgs/nixos/lib/eval-config.nix> { modules = [ (import /etc/nixos/configuration.nix) ]; }
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<srhb> But yeah, curious what you're trying to achieve as well :)
<Shoubit> I just want to explore all the configured options
<Shoubit> Thanks :)
<srhb> Shoubit: nixos-option is more handy for that
<srhb> Especially if you set up tab completion
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<yorick> if I use --builders, it seem that it only does 1 job on the builder
<yorick> is there a way to do more?
<Shoubit> Oh I'm just inspecting systemd.units for some examples. I want to resolve a painful bug with gnome-terminal not respecting ulimits in the NixOS way, I need a high LimitNOFILE to get stuff working. I didn't know about nixos-option though, that's cool.
<yorick> oh, --builders with extra space arguments
<manveru> yorick: yeah... the manpages don't tell you how to use it at all
<yorick> it's still using only 1 core per job now
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<manveru> i think the nix.conf on the remote might need it too?
<manveru> though that should be 0 by default
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<manveru> see nix.buildMachines nixos option
<yorick> it's specifying -j4, I have no idea why
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<avn_> Folks, can anyone remind me -- what parameter in services.systemd.... force service to reload if path changed on update?
<yorick> that would by my local system cores
<yorick> but it's doing it even if I add --cores 24
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<yorick> I will set my local system cores to 0
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<yorick> no, cores=0 and it still happens
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<alexarice[m]> Is it possible to get the output directory from inside stdenv.mkDerivation
<{^_^}> #53665 (by ElvishJerricco, 20 weeks ago, closed): Parallel Haskell build time regression with high core counts
<marek> srhb: with my config I pasted, any idea how to include a python package in that list to build? for everything with dot I get: error: syntax error, unexpected '.', at [1m/nix/store/fr1jpfcpdzqkxddmacrxmwl5v4xskg2z-source/nixos/release-myos.nix[0m:81:14
<palo> g/o krebs
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<srhb> alexarice[m]: Yes, with placeholder
<srhb> alexarice[m]: eg `placeholder "out"`
<alexarice[m]> srhb: thanks
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<lukego> Hey have the cool kids all switched to 'nix' from 'nix-shell' and 'nix-build' already, or is it still too experimental?
<marek> https://gist.github.com/mmahut/031ad411228196c4627459258e753bd2 <- this is my hydra package list within release.nix, how should I properly add python37.package to it? :/
<michaelpj> anyone know much about restricted mode? I'm a little confused as to what I can and can't do. In particular, I don't appear to be able to use even `builtins.filterSource` on a path
<michaelpj> so if I try to fetchgit something with a default.nix and build it, the IFD is fine, but if it uses `filterSource` on its source then it won't work
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #62301 → gitAndTools.lab: 0.15.3 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/fj0Nz
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<marek> but it is still not getting picked up by hydra :/ damn
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<bahamas> how do you get the store path of a specific package, say openjdk? I'm already in nix shell
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #62299 → vimPlugins: update → https://git.io/fj0FG
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<Shoubit> bahamas, start a `nix repl '<nixpkgs>'` and type `openjdk.outPath`. You can use tab-complete to see what properties a set (e.g. `openjdk`) has
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<bahamas> Shoubit: that worked. thank you!
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<clacke_movim> bahamas: builtins.toString openjdk should work too
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<bahamas> clacke_movim: thanks
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<clacke_movim> or simply "${openjdk}" even
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<arianvp> aszlig: are you around? I have a question about systemd confinement
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<__monty__> bahamas, Shoubit: You can also use `env EDITOR=echo nix edit -f '<nixpkgs>' openjdk`
<__monty__> No, wait. That's for the path in nixpkgs.
<__monty__> Apologies.
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<arianvp> aszlig: nevermind. found the answer already :)
<immae> __monty__: wow I didn’t know about this one
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<__monty__> immae: Yeah, picked it up here recently : )
<clacke_movim> __monty__: hah, nice hack
<Orbstheorem> Hello ^^/ Where can I read about the policy on accepting static bootstrap
<Orbstheorem> (for new packages, i.e. compilers)
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<bricewge> Writing a PR to fix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/31611. What is the recommended way to inform that there is a breaking change?
<{^_^}> #31611 (by wmertens, 1 year ago, open): pam_ssh_agent_auth allowing users to define own ssh pubkey
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62304 → libsodium: 1.0.17 -> 1.0.18 → https://git.io/fj0x2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62305 → azimuth: 1.0.2 -> 1.0.3 → https://git.io/fj0x6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62306 → uhd: 3.13.0.1 -> 3.14.0.0 → https://git.io/fj0xX
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<gchristensen> bricewge: write up release notes in nixos/doc/manual/release-notes
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62307 → qtcreator: 4.6.2 -> 4.9.1 → https://git.io/fj0xd
<mpickering> how can I debug nix hanging when trying to fetch a url?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62308 → armadillo: 9.300.2 -> 9.400.4 → https://git.io/fj0xN
<mpickering> wget works
<infinisil> mpickering: Have you tried adding a bunch of -vvv?
<mpickering> nix-prefetch-url appears to be downloading it
<mpickering> so I'll try that
<mpickering> and then -vvvv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62309 → lab: 0.15.3 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/fj0pe
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<bricewge> gchristensen: Thanks!
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<mpickering> infinisil: It seems that it does download it but veryyy slowly
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #62287 → skopeo: 0.1.35 -> 0.1.36 → https://git.io/fj05O
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0pG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #62310 → matrix-synapse: 0.99.5.1 -> 0.99.5.2 → https://git.io/fj0pc
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/2c347116b5b (from 77 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<genesis> https://gist.github.com/bignaux/c3c2ab741b170c22848babbbe71bef2f i try to have a shell env with this shell.nix, but python is taking setuptool from 2.7
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<genesis> don't find deeper info, so if someone has an idea.
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<filedesless> hey I'm trying to get offlineimap to call a python script that uses libkeepass, but it complains it cannot find it
<filedesless> how can I present the lib to it?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #62293 → gitea: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/fj0dc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0pE
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<bricewge> gchristensen: My breaking change may lock some people out of their systems (it's PAM related), does `mkRenamedOptionModule` and writing in the release note is sufficent?
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<gchristensen> bricewge: hrm... not sure ...
<gchristensen> bricewge: sounds scarcy :P
<bricewge> gchristensen: Yup :/ but it prevent a possible privilege escalation via `sudo`.
<gchristensen> I hear that
<gchristensen> needs doing
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<filedesless> can't you make nixos-rebuild fail with a warning?
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<bricewge> Yes I need to make `nixos-rebuild` fail when the deprecated option is used but I don't know what will do: `warning`, `assertion`, `mkRemovedOptionModule` (even if it's only renamed)?
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<Baughn> bricewge: Neat. I will now scan nixpkgs for pull requests from you, to see what you're doing and reverse-engineer an exploit.
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<filedesless> Baughn: lol, don't forget to give credits where due ;)
<bricewge> Baughn: It's not a secret, take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/31611, the "exploit" is already there.
<{^_^}> #31611 (by wmertens, 1 year ago, open): pam_ssh_agent_auth allowing users to define own ssh pubkey
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<Baughn> bricewge: Ah. So this only lets you bypass entering a sudo password, at most?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Baughn closed pull request #21930 → pam: Support Google Authenticator for OTPs → https://git.io/vMoEP
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<bricewge> Yes if you get access to a `wheel`, it's in a way the same as if `NOPASSWD` is used in sudoers.
<Baughn> Which I always do.
<Baughn> Rather have to, as my users generally don't have passwords.
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<filedesless> how come?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @costrouc opened pull request #62311 → pythonPackages.datasette: 0.27 -> 0.28 → https://git.io/fj0hB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0hR
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<emptyflask> I've got self-signed SSL certificates for web app development working for nginx (just specified files in /root/ssl/) but they're still not trusted by the system (chrome, curl, etc). I appended the cert to `security.pki.certificateFiles` and see it in /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt, but no dice
<ar> speaking of nginx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #62273 → Add treewide bad platforms → https://git.io/fj09Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0hF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #62272 → emacsqlite: strip binary → https://git.io/fj09T
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0hb
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<bricewge> Trying to test my changes before writing a PR, how can I disable `nixos/modules/rename.nix`? `disabledModules ` doesn't affect it.
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<LnL> disabledModules can only be used when the changes are nicely contained
<LnL> use nixos-rebuild build-vm -I nixpkgs=./nixpkgs -I nixos-config=foo.nix to test it in a vm instead
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr merged pull request #62281 → dbeaver: 6.0.4 -> 6.0.5 → https://git.io/fj09S
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0ju
<bricewge> Thank you LnL!
<genesis> any idea how i could get off python mixup with setuptool ?
<genesis> "Fatal Python error: initsite: Failed to import the site module" when i call python in my nix-shell
<genesis> (or even when i evoke nix-shell)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0jy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 5 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fj0j9
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lucus16 opened pull request #62314 → WIP init gnat at 9.1 → https://git.io/fj0jb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #62315 → nixos/pulseaudio: Set speex-float-5 as default resample-method → https://git.io/fj0jA
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<adisbladis> andi-: You asked about gnat the other day https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/62314
<{^_^}> #62314 (by Lucus16, 6 minutes ago, open): WIP init gnat at 9.1
<yorick> adisbladis:it still doesn't work :/
<LnL> genesis: you're mixing python 2.7 and 3 dependencies
<adisbladis> yorick: At least it's some progress on gnat :)
<genesis> LnL : how prevent that ? i just want python3 version of the dependancie
<adisbladis> genesis: Don't use `pythonPackages`
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<adisbladis> Either use python3Packages or python.pkgs
<LnL> avoid what's pulling in 2.7 then
<genesis> i use already python3Packages
<adisbladis> I think the latter is preferable
<adisbladis> genesis: You mind pasting the expression?
<LnL> genesis: avoid with import <nixpkgs {}; that will shadow any subsequent with statemements for attributes that are exposed toplevel
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #62316 → python.pkgs.pip: 9.0.3 -> 9.1.1 → https://git.io/fjEeJ
<adisbladis> Also buildPythonApplication provides python3 and setuptools(?)
<adisbladis> But I don't see anything that would cause mixing versions in that expression
<LnL> > with { foo = 1; }; with { foo = 2; bar = 3; }; { inherit foo bar; }
<{^_^}> { bar = <CODE>; foo = <CODE>; }
<genesis> yes, i just try to enforce here adisbladis
<genesis> since it takes python2 setuptool
<adisbladis> Oh right
<adisbladis> I think it's mercurial that's the culprit
<adisbladis> Yes that's it
<genesis> ho oO
<LnL> genesis: this might help, if you're using unstable https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/56907
<{^_^}> #56907 (by LnL7, 12 weeks ago, merged): python: make it possible to disable the python setup-hook
<genesis> i see
<LnL> the way python dependencies propagate is a bit broken IMHO, you can't mix versions even if you just want a binary
<genesis> sure something is broken here
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<genesis> thanks for help, let's try
<LnL> another solution might be to enable strictDeps and split the dependencies over nativeBuildInputs and buildInputs
<LnL> not sure if that's enough to git rid of the native inputs in PYTHONPATH
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<catern> is there some explicit way in which Nix builds for different architectures are differentiated and so end up at different paths? or is it all purely a consequence of different arguments passed to the builders? this is purely theoretical, I'm just wondering if it's meaningful to say "Nix doesn't explicitly differentiate binaries for different archs, instead they're just built differently due to build arguments"
<catern> (i.e. if we had some flag variable ARCH being passed to some root derivation for a given architecture)
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<maurer> catern: My understanding is that package separation is entirely a matter of build inputs here. nixpkgs *itself* has a "system" parameter which selects what system to build for, but Nix doesn't have any such thing
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<gchristensen> (Nix does actually)
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<maurer> Oh, nevermind. What is it?
<gchristensen> «system»
<maurer> ...is that not defined in nixpkgs?
<gchristensen> it is
<gchristensen> but it is also required by fundamental `derivation` function
<gchristensen> https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#ssec-derivation first bullet point
<maurer> Ah, but that is not a build *for* that sytem, it's a build *on* that system
<maurer> e.g. in build/host/target, that system parameter describes "build", but I think catern was asking about "host"
<maurer> (I may also have misread the question)
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<gchristensen> well
<gchristensen> if system = i686-linux, Nix sets the kernel's mode to be 32 bit only
<gchristensen> I'm not sure what we're talking about exactly :P
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<clever> catern: if you have 2 nearly identical derivations, for the same thing, but on 32 and 64bit, they will still differ in many ways: the system attribute, the storepath for all of its inputs (32 or 64bit version, which each have the same difference casdading)
<clever> well, 2 if you only look at the first level, but it casdades up the tree
<LnL> but in theory the system parameter isn't necessary, the outputs will be different because the root (bootstrap-tools) will be different depending on the platform
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<clacke_movim> catern: So, in summary, "yes". :-)
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<clacke_movim> (Build system is explicit, but host system is implicit -- but in practice they concur, so in practice the answer kind of happens to be "no, it is kind of explicit")
<drakonis> hmm, i'm having a moment of confusion, i can't seem to figure out how to update my channels
<weebull[m]> My memory is failing me. I'm using nix on MacOS and I think I've switched something to allow expressions which are broken on darwin to install. Any ideas what I've changed? (My google-fu is failing me)
<drakonis> i don't quite understand how to update
<clacke_movim> weebull[m]: allowBroken = true
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<clacke_movim> In your ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix
<weebull[m]> clacke_movim: Thanks. Now to find where I hid it 🙂
<weebull[m]> Ah
<clacke_movim> drakonis: What does `nix-channel --update` do for you?
<drakonis> it unpacks the channels i guess?
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<drakonis> nothing else is output
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bricewge opened pull request #62317 → nixos/pam: safe defaults for pam_ssh_agent_auth → https://git.io/fjEvU
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<fresheyeball> - You can not use networking.networkmanager with networking.wireless
<fresheyeball> I am not using networkmanager!
<fresheyeball> why!?
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<clever> fresheyeball: some things like gnome enable it automatically
<clever> fresheyeball: try grepping the nixpkgs src for networkmanager
<fresheyeball> oh hu, can I not use nix wireless AND gnome?
<gchristensen> is there a reason you want networking.wireless specifically?
<fresheyeball> I like having my wifi networks in code
<Mic92> fresheyeball: You can disable networkmanager again.
<Mic92> it is just a default value, which can be overwritten by `networking.networkmanager.enable = false;`
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<Shoubit> I think you can add a connection with `networking.networkmanager.extraConfig` in your configuration.nix as well
<fresheyeball> ok I am trying that
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<exarkun> what's the environment variable you set to fix "ValueError: ZIP does not support timestamps before 1980" w/ pip?
<exarkun> found it one time and then lost it
<fresheyeball> that worked, hurray!
<exarkun> ah SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
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<catern> maurer: gchristensen: clacke_movim: ah, cool, thanks, that is a great explanation: explicit for build, implicit for host
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<exarkun> wait no that didn't fix it all the way :/
<exarkun> oh or I didn't pick a large enough integer
<gchristensen> builtins.currentTime
<gchristensen> ;)
<exarkun> zomg
<gchristensen> please no
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<exarkun> now: struct.error: ushort format requires 0 <= number <= USHRT_MAX :/
<exarkun> that's new to me
<exarkun> (still from zipfile)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kmein opened pull request #62319 → maintainers: add kmein → https://git.io/fjEJv
<exarkun> okay, obvious interpretation, picked a _too big_ integer this time
<gchristensen> the goldilocks of compression formats
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<fresheyeball> hurray!
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* ris is trying to understand why we've still got 20140304 as our re2 version
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<ris> it's not like it's an obscure package
<ris> searching github issues doesn't really reveal anything
<gchristensen> we've been waiting for you to come updated it! =)
<ris> i mean, sure, but it just _feels_ like there must be a reason
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<ris> there's even this commit https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/60585392726ca829c7cf92d82c7c8908004acedd that acknowledges there's significantly more modern things going on with the library but ignores the opportunity to just upgrade it
<lordcirth> ris, well, if you update it, does everything break?
<ris> let's see...
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<ambro718> Which package has the KDE screenshot program?
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<ris> wow nox-review rebuilds for re2 are just nix-build -A grab-site -A re2 -A chromiumDev -A python27Packages.fb-re2 -A chromium -A openexrid-unstable -A python37Packages.fb-re2 -A sbt-with-scala-native -A gitlab -A dnsdist -A chromiumBeta -A clickhouse -A john -A cre2
<ris> clearly not as popular as i thought
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<matthewbauer> ambro718: i use spectacle - nixpkgs.kdeApplications.spectacle
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<chinarin> hi all! I'm new to nix (again! This time I'm staying tho ;) and I just can't find how to install python packages! :o I'm *not* a python developer; I just need to install a python library (namely b2) because a program (namely duplicity) requires it. What's a fool to do?
<bbarker> Hey all, I have a shellHook that has the line `source foo.sh` in it, which is great - if your CWD is that of the nix expression and the foo.sh. Is there an alternative that doesn't depend on absolute paths, even if it involves embedding the script in the nix expression (which would be desirable, but with shellHook I know some things are interpreted by nix within the string ... which I do not want here)?
<PyroLagus> chinarin: is installing duplicity via nix an option?
<bbarker> chinarin, are you using duplicity via a nix package?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #62144 → vokoscreen: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.8-beta → https://git.io/fjRy0
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<chinarin> Yes, I've installed duplicity via nix. Seems that its b2 backend is not included in the repos, though.
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<PyroLagus> huh
<bbarker> you'd probably need to override the duplicity nix expression to use it by some means, though I'm not well practiced in that
<tilpner> chinarin: duplicity.overrideAttrs (old: { propagatedBuildInputs = old.propagatedBuildInputs ++ [ pkgs.backblaze-b2 ]; })
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #62328 → [19.03] signal-desktop: 1.24.1 -> 1.25.0 (backport) → https://git.io/fjEUh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed 2 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjETl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #62136 → tmux module: Fix escaping in TMUX_TMPDIR → https://git.io/fjRKe
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<chinarin> tilpner: sorry I haven't learned nix lang yet. Where should I put that statement? Sticking it in configuration.nix in global scope gave a syntax error.
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<chrisabc> Any idea how I can get jack support with mpv? It's listed in the nix file but not sure how to get it built with that. I've trie installing `libjack2` which didn't make a difference. Here is the nix file: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/video/mpv/default.nix
<PyroLagus> chrisabc: i think it just goes in your environment.systemPackages with the rest
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<PyroLagus> sorry, wrong tab complete
<tilpner> chrisabc: Use that wherever you're currently using duplicity
<PyroLagus> i meant chinarin
<chrisabc> PyroLagus: Yeah that is what I tried - but still don't see a jack audio option with `mpv --ao=help`.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « androidStudioPackages.{dev,canary}: 3.6.0.1 -> 3.6.0.2 »: https://git.io/fjET2
<PyroLagus> chrisabc: i accidentally tab-completed your nick, sorry
<chrisabc> PyroLagus: I'll never forgive you!
<chrisabc> PyroLagus: no worries. Happy friday!
<PyroLagus> heh
<PyroLagus> you'll have to override jackaudioSupport to true
<bbarker> it seems that I can't put any possible string ''here'' within nix expressions, for instance - e.g. nix complains about a "*"
<chinarin> PyroLagus: nix threw-up at me for putting in with the other packages. Said it's "not of type 'package'"
<PyroLagus> hm, can you pastebin your nix file?
<chrisabc> PyroLagus: thanks that was it!
<PyroLagus> np :)
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<tilpner> chinarin: Depending on where you put it, you may need to wrap it in parentheses
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<chinarin> tilpner: putting it in parens (in the systemPackages section) /did/ make it compile! Duplicity still fails with "B2 backend requires B2 Python APIs (pip install b2)," though.
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #2907 → Subdirectory improvements → https://git.io/fjETD
<tilpner> chinarin: You did a sudo nixos-rebuild switch? How are you starting duplicity?
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<chinarin> tilpner: yes, I did the rebuild/switch. cmdline is "duplicity restore b2://<account_id>:<app_key>@my_bucket/ my_file"
<tilpner> chinarin: And you removed the old duplicity from the list?
<chinarin> Oh, uh, actually I installed duplicity via nix-env -i. I thought that'd stick it in the config file. How to remove such things?
<tilpner> nix-env -e duplicity
<chinarin> tilpner: ok, did that, then rebuilt again, opened a new terminal, retried duplicity, yet the message persists.
<tilpner> chinarin: What does this print: which duplicity
<chinarin> /home/nic/.nix-profile/bin/duplicity
<tilpner> What about nix-env -q?
<tilpner> ,paste
<{^_^}> Use a website such as [ https://gist.github.com/ http://ix.io/ https://hastebin.com/ http://sprunge.us/ https://paste.ee/ ] or similar services to share anything that's longer than a couple lines.
<chinarin> tilpner: it gives duplicity-0.7.18.2
<tilpner> chinarin: Then you didn't uninstall the nix-env-installed duplicity
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<chinarin> tilpner: huh. OK so here's what happened: I'd assumed that I needed to run nix-env ops in sudo Xo Now everything's working correctly! Thanks so much for sticking with me to fix this.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #61589 → nixos/mysql: don't run parts of mysqld.service as root → https://git.io/fjl9d
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<bbarker> another question - I'm trying to patchelf java ... https://gist.github.com/bbarker/366940b3490acef8120ea2e77ce81dc1 - like that. However, as you can see, there is an Exec format error
<ivan> I would just run that kind of thing in an FHS environment
<bbarker> ivan, FHS?
<bbarker> ah, buildFHSUserEnv, looking
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<bbarker> ivan, cool thanks - i actually was able to run intellij alright in nix, though come to think that was nix on ubuntu (though intellij was installed via nix)
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<ddellacosta> hey folks, trying to build semantic (https://github.com/github/semantic) via nix-build, and having trouble understanding how to use source packages that are set up as git submodules (e.g. freer-cofreer https://github.com/robrix/freer-cofreer, which doesn't exist in hackage anyways). Can anyone point me at an example or docs for how to include source libs like this in a haskell package? Do I simply have to
<ddellacosta> define a default.nix for each one as with anything else, or are there shortcuts?
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<ddellacosta> I'm not sure if anything here fits this example, but I'd love to be shown otherwise: https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#users-guide-to-the-haskell-infrastructure
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #62214 → mill: 0.3.6 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/fj0O0
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<nefix> Hello! I'm trying to install NixOS in a Rock64 (https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM/PINE64_ROCK64). The thing is that I can't find the way to download the hydra build of U-Boot (https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/ubootRock64.aarch64-linux). I tried building it locally but it fails :S. Can someone point me how should I proceed?
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<fasd`> I've heard a few people say that grub with uefi doesn't work well on nixos. Is that still the case?
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<sm> g'day all. I have a haskell program installed with nix that seems unaware of the system locale. This doesn't happen when installing it in any other way. Can you think of what might cause this ?
<samueldr> fasd: never have known it as working badly, always worked fine for me
<samueldr> fasd: (thought there might be a really new issue with the really new upgrade of grub on nixos-unstable)
<clever> nefix: just run `nix-store -r /nix/store/hash-foo` on the storepath in hydras details page
<samueldr> though*
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<clever> nefix: you can do that on any arch with nix installed
<nefix> clever: thanks!
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<samueldr> hm, we probably should add the thing to make it downloadable through hydra to the u-boot build...
<nefix> That would be really helpful, since I downloaded the aarm64 image directly through Hydra
<clever> samueldr: hydra-build-products would make it a lot simpler
<samueldr> clever: yeah, that thing
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<nefix> By the way, is there any reason why the aarm64 image is still in the 18.09 release and not in the 19.03?
<samueldr> nefix: hm?
<samueldr> the link from the nixos wiki?
<samueldr> if so, because no one updated it
<nefix> No, hydra doesn't build it
<nefix> aarch64*
<samueldr> it's now part of the main release, not part of a separate channel
* samueldr is updating the link in the wiki page
<nefix> Oh, I see. Thanks!
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<DigitalKiwi> why does it always take longer to write the PR than the actual change :(
<samueldr> the curse of trivial changes
<DigitalKiwi> hmm i just noticed my pi is on 18.09 channel i thought it was not
<DigitalKiwi> ah, but i have been building the img with nixos-unstable
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<zeta_0> hello guys, when i tried to activate mpc in emacs to play music it through an error, apparently i need to setup mpd first to get mpc to work, in nix options i found mpd but i am not sure what options i need to setup to get it to work with mpc? https://hastebin.com/ebujeregev.rb https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#services.mpd
<zeta_0> i want to play music from within emacs, that is why i am setting this up
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<DigitalKiwi> samueldr: haha or it's not as trivial as i thought seems there's more to it
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<DigitalKiwi> matthewbauer: ping
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<adamantium> Hey, anyone know how to toggle the nixos redshift via shell command? I use the nixos redshift service, and the typical pkill -USR1 '^redshift$' just returns 1
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<DigitalKiwi> hey adamantium i noticed a way to solve that zfs errata thing more easily
<DigitalKiwi> (if you don't care about the past snapshots, which i didn't, you can just delete all of them, instead of copying all of them over)
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<adamantium> cool
<adamantium> DigitalKiwi: hopefully no more erratas for a long time to come :)
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<adamantium> Anyone use a desktop environment and just replace the WM with your favorite tiling? I use exwm and was considering trying this
<adamantium> If you do, which DE would be the best to try first?
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<nh2> adamantium: I use i3, and start only those gnome services in addition that I like, for example gnome-settings-daemon
<nh2> happy with this approach for the last 10 years
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