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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/958eef35331 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62180 → openssl: 1.1.1c, 1.0.2s → https://git.io/fj0eF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62181 → newt: 0.52.20 -> 0.52.21 → https://git.io/fj0eN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62182 → moosefs: 3.0.104 -> 3.0.105 → https://git.io/fj0eA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62183 → earlyoom: 1.2 -> 1.3 → https://git.io/fj0ep
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #62184 → libcanberra: add patch to stop crashing on wayland → https://git.io/fj0vt
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* hodapp stabs OpenCV in the face.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62185 → libqalculate,qalculate-gtk: 3.1.0 -> 3.2.0 → https://git.io/fj0vq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62186 → firejail: 0.9.58.2 -> 0.9.60 → https://git.io/fj0vY
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fj0vn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62187 → yubikey-manager: 2.1.0 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/fj0vc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62188 → iptables: 1.8.2 -> 1.8.3, libnftnl: 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3 → https://git.io/fj0vC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62189 → e2fsprogs: 1.45.1 -> 1.45.2 → https://git.io/fj0vl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62190 → fonttools: 3.41.0 -> 3.42.0 → https://git.io/fj0v8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62191 → joplin-desktop: 1.0.143 -> 1.0.158 → https://git.io/fj0vB
<hodapp> I appear to have found a Python package that claims to require the Python package opencv-python, which I can't really install, and it ignores the presence of opencv3
<hodapp> not sure what I can do about this. I don't see a requirements.txt I can edit requirements in
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<thomasd> hi all, I'm coming from ubuntu 16/18 and am very used to gnome-terminal. which terminal (or shell, or terminal emulator) might be best for me w/ XMonad on NixOS?
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<jackdk> thomasd: I'm using one called "termite" with a different lightweight WM. I don't have strong feelings about it in either direction
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<thomasd> im so used to stuff like ctrl+shift-c and ctrl-shift-v for copy/paste respectively, but in xterm it's all different
<thomasd> maybe I can configure xterm some way
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<gchristensen> gnome terminal is fine t,,
<iqubic> jackdk: I also use termite.
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<gchristensen> too*
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<thomasd> gchristiansen: I'm very new to nix... how would I go about telling configuration.nix that I want to use gnome-terminal? Something like this: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/desktops/gnome-3/core/gnome-terminal? do I need `gnome-terminal-server` too? I guess it's up to me to figure it out! whoo boy.
<gchristensen> add gnome3.gnome-terminal to your environment.systemPackages
<thomasd> done. how might I go about telling the system to use gnome-terminal instead of xterm once I've add the gnome3-terminal to my systemPackages?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62192 → mplus-outline-fonts: 063 -> 063a → https://git.io/fj0va
<gchristensen> hmm not sure, I don't know xmonad :)
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<thomasd> ahh, gotcha, so it's not a nixos thing. I now must configure xmonad.
<thomasd> that's half the battle, knowing that ;)
<thomasd> thanks!
<samueldr> nixos pretty much leaves the user software configuration to the end user, most of the time
<thomasd> right, I can still configure my user env w/o nix files and simply using the filesystem, like you normally do in other linux distros
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<samueldr> that's a possibility, from there the sky's the limit
<samueldr> there's also home-manager that's pretty popular
<thomasd> yeah, I've seen it mentioned in passing. thanks for the link!
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<samueldr> I personally started (early wip) to put all configuration in /etc/ as global configurations, when the software natively supports it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62193 → setroot: 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2 → https://git.io/fj0vP
<samueldr> let me rephrase: I generate it in my system configuration so it goes to /etc/ where the software might be using it
<samueldr> and for some leaf packages (without too much dependents) I sometimes patch it
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<samueldr> (the goal being to have as few programs writing and configuring themselves into my home)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62194 → xonsh: 0.9.0 -> 0.9.4 → https://git.io/fj0vS
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<thomasd> samueldr: sounds like you are on the next level of system specification
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62195 → mno16: init at 1.0 → https://git.io/fj0vH
<samueldr> nah, the next level is doing something similar, but having root and home on tmpfs except for "working" directories :)
<samueldr> so that if anything stateful tries to write on non whitelisted paths it's lost on reboot
<gchristensen> (although I'd suggest / on a tmpfs is needlessly ramhungry :))
<samueldr> yeah, on some temporary storage elsewhere I guess :)
<samueldr> like some kind of pool on some kind of zed fs, maybe
<gchristensen> something like that where you can easily/safely/quickly roll back the filesystem state
<andi-> i wonder what kind of state there still is and if it cant be dealt with differently..
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<samueldr> you mean directly on /tmpfs? no idea
<samueldr> but the advantage of doing it through a backing storage, is you could auto-increment on boot
<andi-> i mean why not just mount everython r/o except for the working dirs.
<samueldr> e.g. tmproot-0001, tmproot-0002 and fish back accidentally stateful things
<gchristensen> things like to write to /var
<samueldr> oh, I guess a bunch of those things would end up whitelisted in my use case anyway
<samueldr> I like logs
<aanderse> etu has been playing around with tmpfs file systems recently
<aanderse> anyone remember what he said he was running? his configs are posted somewhere
<andi-> I wasn't meaning /var, was thinking more regarding /home/ where only a few parts would be writeable
<aanderse> yeah thats the commit
<aanderse> "hosts/kodi: Migrate to tmpfs as root"
<samueldr> andi-: for ~ I was even thinking of declaring dotfiles bankruptcy and have it something like /Users/samuel/Configuration/Legacy and set XDG_CONFIG (or the right one) to /Users/samuel/Configuration
<samueldr> the only annoying thing in that situation is how the "home" buttons now don't mean home anymore :/
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<andi-> you mean in file pickers?
<samueldr> the main example
<samueldr> file browsers, `cd` etc.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62196 → harfbuzz: 2.3.1 -> 2.5.0 → https://git.io/fj0v5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62197 → agave: 009 -> v10 → https://git.io/fj0vd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62198 → wireshark: 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 → https://git.io/fj0vp
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/eb9a9bb22aa (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<tobiasBora> Hello,
<tobiasBora> I don't get something about ldap:
<tobiasBora> (well about ldap on nixos)
<tobiasBora> I setup the rootpw file via services.openldap.rootpwFile = "/secrets/openldap/rootpw.conf";
<markasoftware> with import <nixpkgs> {};
<markasoftware> what's the purpose of the last {} here?
<markasoftware> i get an error without it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62199 → dedup: 1.0 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/fj0fO
<markasoftware> is it the set of arguments to the nixpkgs expression?
<andi-> `import <nixpkgs>` imports the default.nix from your nixpkgs channel. The `{}` applies an empty set of attributes/parameters to it. E.g. you call the result of default.nix (which is a function) with no additional attributes.
<andi-> yes
<markasoftware> ah
<andi-> > import <nixpkgs>
<{^_^}> <LAMBDA>
<andi-> > :p import <nixpkgs>
<{^_^}> <LAMBDA>
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<markasoftware> do all nix expressions take a set as an argument?
<markasoftware> it's not possible to write a nix expression with no arguments?
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<andi-> > f = { foo ? 1 }: "value: ${toString foo}"
<{^_^}> f defined
<andi-> > f
<{^_^}> <LAMBDA>
<andi-> > f {}
<{^_^}> "value: 1"
<andi-> > f { foo = 100; }
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<{^_^}> "value: 100"
<andi-> only lambdas that have this form ({ ... }: …) take a set
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<clever> > let f = x: x.a; in f { a = 42; }
<{^_^}> 42
<clever> this form can accept any type, including a set
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<clever> it all depends on what is done with x
<clever> > let f = { a }: a; in f { a = 42; }
<{^_^}> 42
<clever> and this forces it to be a set, and unpacks the attrs for you
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<clever> > let f = { a }: 5; in f 6
<{^_^}> value is an integer while a set was expected, at (string):254:22
<clever> and even if you never use the `a`, it still fails
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #62200 → nodejs-10_x: 10.15.3 -> 10.16.0 → https://git.io/fj0fs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed to master « foundationdb: default to 6.1.8 (from 6.0.18) »: https://git.io/fj0fn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #62145 → protonmail-bridge: 1.1.4 -> 1.1.5 → https://git.io/fjRST
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0f0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62201 → feedreader: 2.8.2 -> 2.9.2 → https://git.io/fj0fE
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<markasoftware> can I skip the install phase of mkDerivation?
<jackdk> installPhase = ""; # <- how about this?
<markasoftware> huh, i missed the *Phase variables, thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62202 → gnupg: 2.2.15 -> 2.2.16 → https://git.io/fj0fV
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<tobiasBora> Hum, with extrausers.me.passwordFile, I cannot use a non-encrypted file?
<markasoftware> when i specify a `builder` for derivation, it looks in the path of the nix expression that called it?
<markasoftware> (if i pass a string)
<clever> markasoftware: in general, you want to use buildPhase or buildCommand, not builder, and then you can just give it a chunk of bash script
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<clever> markasoftware: using builder directly results in PATH not even being setup, and more work for you
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<markasoftware> yeah, i want to know builtins.derivation right now, i got that stdenv.mkDerivation should always be used in nixpkgs
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<markasoftware> let me get this straight -- a package's runtime dependencies are determined by literally grepping through the binary??
<markasoftware> s/literally/almost literally/
<clever> markasoftware: yeah
<clever> markasoftware: technically, it will turn $out into a NAR (nix-store --dump /nix/store/foo) and then grep that bytestream
<markasoftware> that's clever ;)
<clever> markasoftware: and when suing derivation directly, builder must be an absolute path, and its ran with args
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<clever> markasoftware: https://github.com/cleverca22/nix-tests/blob/master/bare-env.nix is an example i made 3 years ago, there is a .txt of the same name, with the output of it
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<clever> markasoftware: a second example i made more recently, where i'm directly using ghc as the builder, no stdenv, no generic-builder.nix
<clever> no cabal, no stack!
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<markasoftware> i see
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #62203 → matrix-synapse: 0.95.5 -> 0.95.5.1 → https://git.io/fj0fM
<clever> though in both cases, i'm cheating a bit, by using things like writeText, fetchFromGitHub, and haskellPackages.ghcWithPackages
<clever> its more of an example of how to do a specific task, rather then re-implementing all of nixpkgs!
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<markasoftware> is it possible to explicitly list additional runtime dependencies?
<clever> markasoftware: refer to them somehow in your output
<markasoftware> so i could make a txt with just one derivation per line and that would add them as dependencies?
<clever> yep
<markasoftware> noice
<clever> but the program itself wont know where to find those things at runtime
<clever> enless it knows to read that file
<markasoftware> yeah, forgot about that
<clever> mruntime
<markasoftware> will you look at that, all-packages.nix has exactly 1,000 contributors!
<clever> ,runtime
<clever> markasoftware: github probably has a cap on how many it will report
<clever> ,runtimedeps
<{^_^}> In order of preference: Patch source OR ((if it uses PATH -> wrap with new $PATH) AND (if it uses dlopen, (patchelf --set-rpath in postFixup OR wrap with new LD_LIBRARY_PATH)))
<jchw> maybe the SDL2 package would be a good reference here? SDL2 dlopens a lot of dependencies at runtime lazily
<clever> depends on if its PATH or library
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed to master « liburing: 1.0.0pre118_2e719820 -> 1.0.0pre131_b422aa11cc »: https://git.io/fj0Je
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #62204 → quaternion: 0.0.9.4 -> 0.0.9.4c → https://git.io/fj0Jq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #62161 → qView: init at 2.0 → https://git.io/fjRNw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0J8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr merged pull request #62178 → Enables systemd-boot for ARM + fixes meson cpu families → https://git.io/fj0ef
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr pushed 4 commits to staging: https://git.io/fj0J0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr merged pull request #61652 → u-boot: 2018.09 -> 2019.04 (+ ATF update and boards) → https://git.io/fj0Jz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0Jg
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<mjrosenb> can someone help me come up with a nix expr that will build two separate targets? I want two things to be visible inside of a nix-shell.
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/36516712916 (from 10 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03)
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<jb55> mjrosenb: nix-shell -p pkg1 pkg2 ?
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<clacke_movim> Is there a trivial way to make non-NixOS (e.g. Debian) command-not-found work with nixpkgs command-not-found data?
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<clacke_movim> Or is the simple thing to just install nixpkgs c-n-f and make sure it gets the shell hooks?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #62109 → genymotion: refactor src from requireFile to fetchurl → https://git.io/fjRCC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0Up
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/61f0936d1cd (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<ploupiboulba[m]> is it possible to generate a node environment with packages similar to python ? the doc is very scarce. Grepping nixpkgs, I see nodeEnv but no actual use of it
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<Miyu-saki> ploupiboulba[m]: node2nkx?
<ploupiboulba[m]> Miyu-saki: I want to create a neovim node environemnt with packages required by the different plugins. Does it mean I will have to write the json myself ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #62205 → phpPackages.phpstan: 0.11.7 -> 0.11.8 → https://git.io/fj0TY
<ploupiboulba[m]> there doesn t seem to be a callNode2nix like there is callCabal2nix :'(
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<ploupiboulba[m]> like for instance does this script have to be called manually on remarkjs update pkgs/development/web/remarkjs/generate.sh ?!
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<marek> is there a way in hydra to specify an additional rpath that will be applied to all binaries?
<marek> like we want to add FHS rpaths to the binaries produces
<marek> so the testers can run it on other distros too
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #62187 → yubikey-manager: 2.1.0 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/fj0vc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0Tz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #61832 → ocamlPackages.earley: 1.0.2 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/fj4an
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « ocamlPackages.earley: 1.0.2 -> 2.0.0 »: https://git.io/fj0Tg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #62194 → xonsh: 0.9.0 -> 0.9.4 → https://git.io/fj0vS
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<adamantium> Hey-- So i'm trying to use services.xserver.displayManager.startx.enable = true; and "startx" to run my wm without a dm / and as a regular user. But i keep getting the error: (EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied)
<adamantium> Works as root, though...
<adamantium> Does anyone know how to make this work?
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<etu> adamantium: Whats the permissions on /dev/tty0?
<adamantium> crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 1 May 28 23:30 /dev/tty1
<etu> Hmm, and I assume that you're not in the tty group or so. So that's why you can't write to it. But you shouldn't need to be in that group either.
<adamantium> just users wheel disk audio video networkmanager systemd-journal libvirtd
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<adamantium> sorry, i disconnected.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #62185 → libqalculate,qalculate-gtk: 3.1.0 -> 3.2.0 → https://git.io/fj0vq
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<{^_^}> [patchelf] @lkollar opened pull request #171 → Remove zeroing out logic in modifySoname → https://git.io/fj0kk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #62198 → wireshark: 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 → https://git.io/fj0vp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @dtzWill to master « wireshark: 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 »: https://git.io/fj0km
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir closed pull request #46313 → watchexec: darwin support → https://git.io/fAzNP
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<v0id72[m]> hi just wondering if someone could point me where to read more about using nix-shell on macOS? As I have read the info on the site. But are there any real world scenario articles? From what I understand it kinda sandboxes the apps from my macOS, is this correct? Looking to do dev in nix-shell and keep all of it isolated from my macOS - as I mess it up constantly. :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #62139 → cargo-make: 0.19.2 -> 0.19.3 → https://git.io/fjRiZ
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<rauno> When using pname in package, how make sure it will have support for older systems also which require name ?
<rauno> name = "${pname}-${version}";
<rauno> pname = "NetworkManager-strongswan"; ?
<rauno> is this correct way ?
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<{^_^}> [nix] @dingxiangfei2009 opened pull request #2902 → Bump cpptoml to v0.1.1 → https://git.io/fj0L4
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<EdLin> I've been having problems installing nixos (in a boxes vm for testing prior to full installation). It keeps giving me syntax errors about a semi-colon and equals sign being in unexpected places
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<johanot> the systemd module doesn't have a reloadTriggers? I have a case, where I want to trigger reload, but I still want service restarts for other changes.
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<johanot> EdLin: can you paste your config somewhere?
<EdLin> that's going to be kind of hard... it's in a VM with no IRC installed.
<EdLin> not sure how to share files from boxes
<EdLin> I just uncommented a few of the examples in the example config
<johanot> can't you c/p the config out of the vm and into a github gist on your host system or something?
<etu> cat configuration.nix | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
<EdLin> what's a github gist?
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<etu> Will paste that file and you get a short link that it's easy to type here
<johanot> what etu says :) it's probably easier (if your vm is online)
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<etu> johanot: Should be to be able to install things :)
<EdLin> that should be my nixos config
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<johanot> looks like a missing semicolon on line 37
<EdLin> worked!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #61999 → neovim: Allow passing packages to add to PATH → https://git.io/fjBrl
<EdLin> thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @Jomik to master « neovim: Allow passing extra makeWrapperArgs »: https://git.io/fj0L7
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<johanot> EdLin: anytime.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #62100 → uefi-firmware-parser: init at 1.8 → https://git.io/fjRGM
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<romildo> NIxOS unstable is failing to rebuild. I am getting the message:
<romildo> Any clues on a fix for it?
<romildo> builder for '/nix/store/smn1ncc5mfh7c0758g4nqx0zmyfxwfbv-perl5.28.2-ddclient-3.9.0.drv' failed with exit code 127
<romildo> /nix/store/gxrn3ij3xisrx95gbvv7b713sl6sfdwh-builder.sh: line 19: --replace: command not found
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<arianvp> how do I get an EMACS with AGda support + agda stdlib in nixos?
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<tobiasBora> Hello,
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #62201 → feedreader: 2.8.2 -> 2.9.2 → https://git.io/fj0fE
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<tobiasBora> I would need the adb executable. Some people say it should be in androidsdk. However, I tried to add "androidsdk" in my systemPackages, and I've an error "unknow variable androidsdk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #62191 → joplin-desktop: 1.0.143 -> 1.0.158 → https://git.io/fj0vB
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<adisbladis> tobiasBora: It's in androidenv.androidPkgs_9_0.platform-tools
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #62206 → watchexec: 1.10.1 -> 1.10.2 → https://git.io/fj0kP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @d3rped opened pull request #62212 → [WIP] krita: 4.1.8 -> 4.2.0 → https://git.io/fj0m3
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<Miyu-saki> Oh shit what the
<Miyu-saki> PinePhone has first-class support for NixOS, apparently https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
<gchristensen> thanks to the great work of #nixos-aarch64 :)
<andi-> Can't wait to have one in my hands :D
<goibhniu2> wow!! <3
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<FireFly> huh
<adisbladis> When can you get a devkit? :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #61979 → vnote: init at 2.5 → https://git.io/fjBRs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0mw
<andi-> I think samueldr has a devkit and is working on it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #62183 → earlyoom: 1.2 -> 1.3 → https://git.io/fj0ep
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0mi
<eddyb> has anyone looked at VSCode "Insiders" (i.e. their unstable flavor) and the new remote mode, where it SSHes onto a server and runs a version of itself there?
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<eddyb> someone is jumping the gun a bit after getting access to a NixOS server and I suspect there might be a lot of work to be done before anything works
<tobiasBora> adisbladis: whoo thanks, but why such a complicated path? Also, I found programs.adb.enable = true; is it supposed to let the user use adb, or to let people from outside connect to the device using adb?
<adisbladis> tobiasBora: That option adds androidenv.androidPkgs_9_0.platform-tools to environment.systemPackages and sets up udev rules to let users use adb.
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<adisbladis> I dont remember.. Upstream packaging used to be simpler around this.
<tobiasBora> adisbladis: oh, so it's the recommended way to install adb I guess?
<adisbladis> Yes for sure go with programs.adb.enable :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @saschagrunert opened pull request #62213 → conmon: 0.0.1pre52_6905a4d -> 0.2.0 → https://git.io/fj0mN
<tobiasBora> adisbladis: oh ok, I guess that's why androidenv.androidPkgs_9.XXX is so long
<tobiasBora> it's a pity this is not written more clearly in the documentation.
<tobiasBora> (and on some wiki)
<DigitalKiwi> thanks for answering the question i had the other day but didn't ask
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<DigitalKiwi> (about how to get adb)
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<cyris212> Does someone have spotify desktop notifications working or is just my setup broken?
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<dhess> Anyone here going to be at Zurihac? Or Monadic Party?
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<gchristensen> I'll be at Zurihac
<dhess> gchristensen: yay!
<gchristensen> yea =)
<dhess> I owe you some {beers,your-choice-of-beverage}
<dhess> gchristensen: are you living in Europe now?
<gchristensen> no (bbl, 50min)
<dhess> no worries, just idle chat. See you at Zurihac!
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<domenkozar[m]> I'll be at ZuriHac :)
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<dhess> domenkozar: yay! I also owe you some beverages. :)
<dhess> your NixOps stuff for Snabb helped me sooo much when I was a n00b.
<domenkozar[m]> <3
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<domenkozar[m]> beers shall be served :)
<dhess> excellent :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @karolchmist opened pull request #62214 → mill: 0.3.6 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/fj0O0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ktf opened pull request #62215 → igprof: init at v5.9.16 → https://git.io/fj0Oa
<turion> Since lately, my `services.cassandra` doesn't start up properly anymore. journalctl says:
<turion> Mai 29 09:39:10 nixos systemd[1]: cassandra.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
<turion> Mai 29 09:39:10 nixos systemd[1]: cassandra.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=126/n/a
<turion> Mai 29 09:39:10 nixos cassandra[1020]: /nix/store/97gl5mlbfj91n1b64bp5lngnp8cig13n-cassandra-3.11.3/bin/cassandra: line 5: /nix/store/97gl5mlbfj91n1b64bp5lngnp8cig13n-cassandra-3.11.3/bin/cassandra: Argument list too long
<turion> Mai 29 09:39:09 nixos systemd[1]: Started Apache Cassandra service.
<turion> When I look at systemctl show cassandra, I can notice a few long lines, but nothing exceptionally long
<turion> ARG_MAX=999999999 systemctl restart cassandra doesn't help
<turion> The last line of /nix/store/97gl5mlbfj91n1b64bp5lngnp8cig13n-cassandra-3.11.3/bin/cassandra reads: exec "/nix/store/97gl5mlbfj91n1b64bp5lngnp8cig13n-cassandra-3.11.3/bin/cassandra"  "${extraFlagsArray[@]}" "$@"
<turion> So I'm suspecting that extraFlagsArray is somehow too long? Or whatever $@ is?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #62069 → nixos: Make 'nesting.clone' work in NixOS tests → https://git.io/fjRfE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0Oo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #62176 → nodePackages: init openstf → https://git.io/fjRjq
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<bgamari> is anyone else seeing random timeouts when downloading from cache.nixos.org?
<gchristensen> can you send me logs of what you're seeing?
<bgamari> the download seems to progress a few dozen megabytes and then stalls
<bgamari> gchristensen, what in particular would you like to see?
<gchristensen> any logs you can send me where the error takes place :)
<dhess> Yay, finally got my Hydra to build NixOps deployments!
<gchristensen> nice!
<dhess> last bit of build stuff that wasn't fully automated
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<bgamari> gchristensen, at the moment all I have is https://gist.github.com/bgamari/07ebce53f01d8fd82cc4570c6cfe6c37
<bgamari> gchristensen, in each of those commands the download progressed quickly until it didn't
<bgamari> it just hung
<gchristensen> hrm
<bgamari> so I killed it and tried again
<gchristensen> can you access https://www.fastly-debug.com/ ?
<bgamari> it seems to get stuck at a different point every time
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<bgamari> it always seems to be downloading ghc-8.6.4 however
<bgamari> not sure is this is causal or not, however
<bgamari> it seems to be taking its time collecting data
<bgamari> gchristensen, the page loads but it also seems to hang with "Collecting data please wait..."
<gchristensen> hrm ... here too ... I'll ping fastly.
<bgamari> gchristensen, looking at the console it appears that the script failed to load due to CORS
<bgamari> Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at https://1559134948001-xm1c6p3xlh.u.fastly-analytics.com/debug_resolver. (Reason: CORS request did not succeed).[Learn More]
<bgamari> Loading failed for the <script> with source “https://www.fastly-analytics.com/js/fastlydebug/fastly.js?cb=resultsCallback”.
<gchristensen> oh you have to disable ublock origin
<bgamari> heh, sigh
<bgamari> yes, it works with chromium
<bgamari> so I guess that explains it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @CohenCyril opened pull request #62217 → recurseIntoAttrs of coqPackages → https://git.io/fj038
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<yorick> does... nix log only work on succesful builds?
<andi-> no, but it usually only works for local builds
<yorick> how do I get the nix log for a failed build?
<andi-> let me verify what I just said.. 1 sec
<yorick> I've seen nix-store --query-failed-builds
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<andi-> works for me `nix log /nix/store/....-foo.drv`
<Shados> yorick, andi-: 'nix log /nix/store/stuff....drv' should work for remote builders too, assuming they're in nix.conf or you specify them with --builders in the nix log command
<andi-> Shados: ahh yes, it was -K which never worked and I always wnated that to copy it to my machine
<yorick> "error: build log of '/nix/store/asdf.drv' is not available"
<yorick> oh, only the directly failing builds
<Shados> yorick: Failures due to transitive dependency failures don't generate a log to begin with -- the logs are the output from the builder, which never runs if the dependencies aren't satisfied :)
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<Shados> andi-: Yeah, that one is a bit annoying. Doing `--keep-failed --builders ''` works, but then you don't have your remote builders doing the heavy lifting...
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<andi-> yep
<andi-> while generally super happy with "magical" remote builds (imporive my notebooks battery time by a lot) those are the little things.. Especially painful if I did compile for >30min and failed..
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<ilmu> hey I was following the wiki description of how to set up a initscript for psql in config.nix
<ilmu> and it doesn't seem to run the script? is the wiki outdated or should I reboot into the new config or something?
<klntsky> How can I install haskell-overridez using an overlay? The proposed installation method is to use nix-env: https://github.com/adetokunbo/haskell-overridez#installation
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthew-piziak opened pull request #62221 → nodePackages: regenerate → https://git.io/fj0Gg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #62162 → trezord-go: 2.0.26 -> 2.0.27 → https://git.io/fjRNi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #62173 → grafana: 6.2.0 -> 6.2.1 → https://git.io/fjRhY
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #62192 → mplus-outline-fonts: 063 -> 063a → https://git.io/fj0va
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<pie___> why does the cran integration work so well
<pie___> or did i just not run into something that has system level deps yet
<pie___> ah wait thats not true i guess
<pie___> ah but, ive not run into anything missing like...header files or stuff like that yet
<pie___> oh wait i guess i did with RMariaDB...
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<neonfuz2> so uhhh
<neonfuz2> > sage@e6420:~$ readlink .nix-profile
<neonfuz2> > yaxg
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected URI, expecting '{', at (string):254:6
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/daygj8r7fcz880nylzjhmjwymb8fy625-yaxg-unstable-2018-05-03.drv>"
<neonfuz2> how did this happen? lol
<clever> neonfuz2: do you have existing things in your profile, or is it empty?
<neonfuz2> I had things in my nix-profile
<neonfuz2> I'm still running a firefox from my nix-profile
<neonfuz2> so this must have been recent
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 opened pull request #62222 → zfsUnstable: 0.8.0-rc5 -> 0.8.0 → https://git.io/fj0Zu
<neonfuz2> I tried nix-env -i yaxg
<neonfuz2> said yaxg not found, I guess nixpkgs doesn't have it
<neonfuz2> but idk how this happened
<neonfuz2> ohhhh, I think I did a typo earlier
<neonfuz2> yep, accidentally wrote nix-env -S yaxg at some point
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<neonfuz2> is this okay?: ln -s /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/sage/profile .nix-profile
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<goibhniu2> neonfuz2 yep
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bricewge opened pull request #62223 → zbar: 0.22 -> 0.23 → https://git.io/fj0Z6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bricewge opened pull request #62225 → xbanish: 1.5 -> 1.6 → https://git.io/fj0nR
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<yorick> is there a nix copy --include-outputs?
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<yorick> andi-: this gives "command too long" sorts of errors
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<andi-> use xargs instead of the subshell?
<yorick> ew.
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<yorick> include-outputs worked well and even skipped missing outputs
<delroth> after an upgrade+reboot cycle (on master) I can't get nix to eval my nixops config anymore, "out of memory". Before I spend more time looking into what's going on, is that a known issue already?
<delroth> (that same nixops config had no issue building on nixpkgs master from 7 days ago, afaict)
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<delroth> also it takes less than a second to tell me it's OOM, which is kinda suspicious on a 16GB RAM machine, and I don't see any memory consumption peak
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/57c3da07eb8 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<delroth> ok, it's not actually OOMing, it's segfaulting, nixops is just lying to me
<delroth> (as in, nix-build is segfaulting)
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<delroth> ah no, sometimes it is going OOM.
<delroth> evaluating file '/home/delroth/work/nixpkgs/pkgs/development/haskell-modules/hackage-packages.nix'
<delroth> error: out of memory
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<lordcirth> delroth, do you have any swap?
<{^_^}> #60187 (by joachifm, 4 weeks ago, merged): nixos: configurable system-wide malloc
<lordcirth> Ah, hardening. It always breaks something.
<delroth> well, not usually :)
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<delroth> I kind of expected it to be some hardening change since the problem was clearly not super widespread... but that one was better hidden than the others :p
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<zeta_0> hello guys, how do i setup the aspell `nix` package with emacs? am i good with just the `aspell` package or will i need `aspellDicts.en`(for english) package as well?
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<zeta_0> and will this work with emacs out of the box or will i need add some elisp to .emacs?
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<davidak> is there a way to use the ip of eth0 (DHCP) in the webserver config (caddy) using configuration.nix?
<riottest000[m]> Can anybody help me? I get `error: cannot auto-call function that has an argument with a default value ('stdenv')` when running nix-build
<andi-> yorick: whats the state of gnat? :D (I am trying to compile coreboot…)
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<adisbladis> I looked at it a few months ago (also to build coreboot) and gave up
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<infinisil> ,callPackage riottest000[m]
<{^_^}> riottest000[m]: If a Nix file foo.nix starts with something like `{ stdenv, cmake }:`, you can build it with `nix-build -E '(import <nixpkgs> {}).callPackage ./foo.nix {}'`
<andi-> I am currently building it on a 17.09 channel version..
<andi-> Hope that works
<riottest000[m]> <=7b^_^=7d "riottest000: If a Nix file foo.n"> Hmm, how can I integrate that in my default.nix?
<riottest000[m]> So I don't have to use a long command just to build my thingy
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<infinisil> riottest000[m]: Instead of taking arguments as { stdenv, ... }, make it `import <nixpkgs> {}`
<infinisil> I mean
<infinisil> `with import <nixpkgs> {};`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lukebfox opened pull request #62226 → colorls: init at 1.2.0 → https://git.io/fj0cw
<infinisil> Would be easiest
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<yorick> andi-: the roommate is still working on it one day per week
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @delroth opened pull request #62227 → nixos/malloc: add scudo from LLVM compiler-rt → https://git.io/fj0cx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #62180 → openssl: 1.1.1c, 1.0.2s → https://git.io/fj0eF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 4 commits to staging: https://git.io/fj0cp
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<zeta_0> hello guys in: ~/.cabal/config there is a nix option, what is it for?
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<__monty__> Cabal "integrates" with nix by running builds in a nix-shell *if* there's a shell.nix present.
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<zeta_0> __monty__: ok, i'll set that option to True, thanks
<zeta_0> __monty__++
<{^_^}> __monty__'s karma got increased to 4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #62227 → nixos/malloc: add scudo from LLVM compiler-rt → https://git.io/fj0cx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #62224 → ddclient: fix fallout from #62068 → https://git.io/fj0nt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed to master « liburing: 1.0.0pre131_b422aa11cc -> 1.0.0pre132_f8865bc6 »: https://git.io/fj0W1
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/d9d5c8d7dc7 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<cransom> i seem to have stumbled on missing resize2fs in stage1 for amazon images when i build from 19.03, anyone else stumble across that?
<gchristensen> amine did
<gchristensen> but I thought he fixed it
<gchristensen> dhess: `round?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil opened pull request #62229 → tahoe-lafs: Fix build → https://git.io/fj0lJ
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<marek> how often is unstable channel updated in hydra?
<marek> (and therefore pushed out?)
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<gchristensen> marek: http://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html has some info no thaht
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<stphrolland> hi. When I launch nix-shell on a shell.nix file with buildInputs = [glibc], the binaries of glibc are exposed in my $PATH . But the includes are not exposed. I can see in my nix-store that the files are here (for example the file I need to access is ...glibc-...-dev/include/features.h), but the include directory is not part of the $PATH enriched by nix-shell. it's not the same guid used also. Any hint on what to include in buildI
<marek> gchristensen: thank you! that's an awesome graph :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #61994 → cpp-gsl: remove in favor of microsoft_gsl → https://git.io/fjBVX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0lm
<gchristensen> thanks :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0l3
<marek> we should make "nixos bookmarks" as every day I'm discovering a new awesome link with something interesting
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<stphrolland> what is strange is that for ncurses, AFAIR I had not to make any distinction between the binaries and the headers, they were available just doing buildInputs = [ncurses]. It does not seem to be the same behaviour with [glibc]
<gchristensen> marek: that is a cool idea
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<symphorien> stphrolland: glibc is already in stdenc you shouldn't have to add it to buildInputs
<symphorien> Export NIX_DEBUG=1 to see what flags are added by the cc wrapper to cc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #61821 → Datadog: update packages → https://git.io/fj4zC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @joachifm merged pull request #61823 → Cgminer cleanup → https://git.io/fj4zd
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<stphrolland> @symphorien with NIX_DEBUG=1, which command should I launch to check cc-wrappers flag? using nix-shell, I can only the initial and modified final $PATH.
<symphorien> Call the compiler
<catern> Does /dev/stdout exist in the Nix build sandbox?
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<clever> catern: nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; runCommand "name" {} "ls /dev/stdout"'
<clever> lrwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 15 May 29 20:23 /dev/stdout -> /proc/self/fd/1
<clever> adding -l reveals its a symlink to fd1 on yourself
<catern> Yeah I just did that test, but here's the weird thing
<stphrolland> @symphorien I'm trying to use cling, which is based on clang. I have no trace when launching cling. But when I launch the compiler clang, I clearly see the the flag -B/nix-store/...-glibc-...-dev/include
<catern> "echo foo > /dev/stdout" fails
<symphorien> Is cling wrapped ?
<clever> catern: that will be the stdout of the bash that is running echo
<clever> catern: which would be identical to just `echo foo`
<catern> clever: sure, nevertheless it should still work
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<catern> but instead: /build/.attr-0: line 1: /dev/stdout: Permission denied
<clever> nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; runCommand "name" {} "echo foo > /dev/stdout"'
<clever> /build/.attr-0: line 1: /dev/stdout: Permission denied
<clever> same
<catern> Are there really no builds in nixpkgs which reopen /dev/stdout?
<symphorien> If it is not, there is a function wrapCC in nixpkgs do so, iirc
<catern> I'm packaging something new which uses /dev/stdout
<catern> I can scarcely believe that this is the first application to do so...
<clever> catern: libredirect
<stphrolland> I'm using a nix file almost identical to https://github.com/tweag/jupyterWith/blob/master/kernels/xeus-cling/cling.nix , which is not part of nixpkgs yet. I'm not sure to understand what you mean by wrapping. I have to read about it. What is the concept ?
<catern> clever: what?! that's way too big of a hammer to use
<catern> we shouldn't immediately jump to libredirect because something uses /dev/stdout
<catern> instead we should fix the broken nix sandbox...
<symphorien> stphrolland: try to open $(which gcc) in a nix shell
<symphorien> With a text editor
<clever> catern: i suspect its namespace problems, ive had similar trouble with nix-collect-garbage in a namespace
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<catern> Oh ugh!
<symphorien> Gcc is in fact a shell script adding some flags and the calling the real gcc
<catern> Is the Nix sandbox /proc not set up correctly?
<symphorien> Such a script is called a wrapper
<clever> catern: i think stdout being a pipe made by something outside the sandbox is part of the problem
<clever> catern: what if you | cat the problem program?
<stphrolland> @symphorien I am in the script, the wrapper
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil closed pull request #62171 → python2Packages.cmd2_8: 0.8.0 -> 0.8.9, fix build → https://git.io/fjRpg
<catern> clever: It's specifically a test in this program which asserts that it can open /dev/stdout
<clever> nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; runCommand "name" {} "sh -c \"echo foo > /dev/stdout\" | cat"'
<clever> catern: this works
<catern> Hm
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<clever> catern: now /dev/stdout is the | that sh made, and it still leads to nix
<catern> clever: ok, sure, that makes sense, but I'd rather fix it
<symphorien> stphrolland: what do you mean ?
<catern> (the program is version 4 of supervisord, btw)
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<clever> catern: the kernel may not allow it, due to how the pipe was made
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 10 commits to check-flake: https://git.io/fj0l7
<catern> clever: sure, so we need to fix it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fj0l5
<stphrolland> @symphorien but in the case of cling, I am almost sure it will use the clang compiler. WHat I mean to be in the wrapper ? I have opened the files by which gcc, and which clang. Currently trying to figure out what they do superficially
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #62225 → xbanish: 1.5 -> 1.6 → https://git.io/fj0nR
<catern> possibly by working around it in some way
<catern> (alas, my previous commits to fix things in the nix sandbox have all been ignored)
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<symphorien> stphrolland: this is a complicated part of nixpkgs, but there is a function in nixpkgs to wrap a compiler "automatically"
<symphorien> > wrapCc
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'wrapCc' at (string):254:1
<symphorien> Well I can't remember its name
<srk> > wrapCC
<{^_^}> <LAMBDA>
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #2903 → Add "nix flake check" → https://git.io/fj0lx
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<stphrolland> @symphorien I think you point me in a good direction. What I've briefly seen from this post is interesting: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/working-on-compilers-in-nixos/2566 it deals about calling clang without the proper wrapper. I come back after some reading..
<catern> clever: here's a non-nix reproducer if you care: sudo unshare --fork -U -p --mount-proc sh -c 'ls -l /proc/self/fd/; echo > /proc/self/fd/1'
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<niksnut> catern: this happens to be fixed by https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2878
<{^_^}> nix#2878 (by edolstra, 1 week ago, open): Run builds in a pseudo-terminal
<catern> niksnut: aha! awesome!
<clever> ah, nice!
<catern> niksnut: do you know that for a fact? because I don't think this is necessarily related to running with a pipe rather than a pty; that reproducer fails even in a pty
<niksnut> yes, I just tested it
<catern> rad!
<niksnut> btw apparently docker has a similar issue: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/31243
<{^_^}> moby/moby#31243 (by kbrwn, 2 years ago, open): `/dev/stdout` is inaccessible by an unprivileged user in a container started as root
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<catern> Oh, nice find
<catern> In that case I think the program I'm packaging will probably want to workaround this upstream - they currently check if /dev/stdout exists before running the /dev/stdout tests, probably they want to also check that they can write to stdout
<clever> catern: ls and stat claim you can write to it, so that will be difficult to test, without just checking for errors
<catern> clever: access(2) should reject it, which is how you should check
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<clever> catern: ah, that sounds good
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to flake-terminology « Rename requires -> inputs, provides -> outputs »: https://git.io/fj08W
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra opened pull request #2904 → Rename requires -> inputs, provides -> outputs → https://git.io/fj084
<stphrolland> @srk @symphorien I have not managed to understand how to use the wrapCC function. Should I use it to modify clang in my shell.nix file?
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<fresheyeball> hey out there
<fresheyeball> anyone able to use base32-bytestring?
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<mnoronha> I'm having trouble setting up X11 forwarding over ssh. Is anyone familiar with this?
<mnoronha> The message I see is `Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated`
<drakonis_> this looks like a ssh problem?
<gchristensen> your sshd config may prohibit X11 forwarding
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<mnoronha> gchristensen: Can I change this in configuration.nix?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #62232 → pythonPackages.curio: patch tests → https://git.io/fj0B3
<gchristensen> check https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#services.openssh for X11 related options
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<risson> Hi! How can I access lib.getBin inside nix repl ?
<gchristensen> (import <nixpkgs> {}).lib.getBin
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<risson> gchristensen: thanks :D
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<Ankhers> Do AppImage files work on NixOS. If so, how?
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<clever> Ankhers: appimage-run
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<Ankhers> clever: Thanks. I'll give that a go.
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<circ-user-dLdoV> How do I force to install a package from source, skip the binary cache?
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<mnoronha> Is there a python version I can get easily that includes tkinter? Sorry for the basic questions, fairly new still
<clever> circ-user-dLdoV: why do you want to bypass the cache?
<Ankhers> clever: How do I actually run the file? Assuming I am not making a nix derivation for it just yet.
<andi-> mnoronha: nix-shell -p python3.pkgs.tkinter --run python
<andi-> that will give you a python with the package
<mnoronha> andi-: Thanks!
<clever> Ankhers: just install appimage-run, and then run `appimage-run the-app-image` i think
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<Ankhers> clever: Thanks. I forgot to reload my shell after installation. Thank you!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #62233 → python3Packages.cython: 0.29.7 -> 0.29.9 → https://git.io/fj0Rm
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<circ-user-dLdoV> @clever, sorry I was AFK. I hit this issue (https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty/issues/2243) with alacritty from binary cache
<{^_^}> jwilm/alacritty#2243 (by doubleloop, 8 weeks ago, closed): Alacritty v0.3.0-rc2 does not start (Error creating GL context)
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<mnoronha> When I run `nix-channel --list`, I see nothing. What channel does this mean I'm using?
<mnoronha> I'm on nixos
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<circ-user-dLdoV> It was triggered by a bug in glutin. glutin is just part of the cargo.toml, not a explicit dependency in nix. So I thought, if I rebuild the source, it might pick the correct glutin version with the issue fixed.
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<clever> circ-user-dLdoV: even if you tell nix to rebuild from source, if you didnt add glutin, it will produce the same binary with the same problem
<clever> circ-user-dLdoV: if you tell nix to override things and add glutin, it will automatically build from source and not use the cache
<circ-user-dLdoV> there is no such package as glutin, I actually had a hard time to understand how it worked...
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<clever> circ-user-dLdoV: is glutin a cargo crate?
<circ-user-dLdoV> yes
<nh2> I'm installing NixOS on a new OVH dedicated server from the rescue system.
<nh2> It's throwing a Python stacktrace for `systemd-boot-builder.py` doing `.../bootctl", "--path=/boot", "install"`
<nh2> Can I use `nixos-install` without `/boot` partition?
<clever> nh2: is the efivars fs mounted?
<nh2> clever: would it appear in `mount | grep efi`? If so, then not
<clever> circ-user-dLdoV: then it just needs to be in the cargo.toml, and the cargosha256 has to be updated
<clever> nh2: then the problem is with /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, not /boot
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<nh2> clever: I don't quite understand. The last thing the script prints is `Failed to check file system type of "/boot": No such file or directory`. I have the dir `/sys/firmware/efi/efivars` but it's empty
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<clever> nh2: have you mounted /boot within the chroot?
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<nh2> clever: there is no chroot, I have just mounted the target root partition at `/mnt` (which is an empty file system tree), and run `PATH="$PATH" NIX_PATH="$NIX_PATH" `which nixos-install` --root /mnt` as per manual
<nh2> (I can mount `mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars` if that helps somehow)
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<clever> nh2: ah, you also need to mount the efi system partition to /mnt/boot/ in that case
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<nh2> clever: I don't have an EFI system partition, do I need one? I think i'd prefer to just do a normal single-partition install
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<clever> nh2: if you want a single-partition install, then you cant use EFI
<clever> nh2: and systemd-boot is EFI only, so you need to switch to grub.enable = true;
<clever> you will also need to ensue your using MBR partitioning, legacy on GPT needs another (unformatted) partition
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<nh2> clever: oh, I see. Indeed `nixos-generate-config` generated me a `systemd-boot.enable = true`. By what means did it choose to do that? Because my given `--root /mnt` is on a GPT disk?
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<clever> nh2: its based on the presense of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
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<nh2> clever: does that make sense even given that my `efivars` was empty because nothing was mounted there?
<clever> sysfs will only generate that dir if efi is enabled
<clever> but the efivars have to be mounted seperately
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e8cc0692fc1 (from 15 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03)
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<v0|d> how do one get a nix-shell with clang/llvm stdenv?
<clever> v0|d: clangStdenv
<clever> v0|d: if your using a normal default.nix/shell.nix, just change stdenv to clangStdenv
<circ-user-dLdoV> clever, thanks~ I will try to look into it.
<clever> v0|d: if your not, nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; clangStdenv.mkDerivation { name = "thing"; buildInputs = []; }'
<v0|d> clever: aha, last one is wonderful, thnx:)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hyphon81 opened pull request #62234 → pythonPackages.pysptk: init at 0.1.16 → https://git.io/fj0Rb
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<{^_^}> [cabal2nix] @chrissound opened pull request #420 → Section relates better to cabal2nix → https://git.io/fj0RN
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/f306e09bb8f (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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