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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjR65
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<mankyKitty>
what is the process for investigating why a haskell package has been marked as broken?
<DigitalKiwi>
i'm guessing here but maybe set allowBroken true and try building it and see what happens
<mankyKitty>
I was curious about logs or even automated issues somewhere, I'm not sure "worked on my machine" or the contrary is sufficient to flip the flag. So I was hoping for something more agnostic ? I guess.. .oh well
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<mankyKitty>
because at the moment it seems like most of the hw-* haskell packages have been marked as broken, and root cause analysis would have been simpler if I could see even a machine pointing at a reason.. sigh, lunch first
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<kalbasit>
Do we have a Slack team? both nixos.slack.com and nix.slack.com seems to exist
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<hhefesto>
What would be the best way to install ghc-8.4.4? What I've tried is adding older channels (like `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-16.03 && nix-channel --update`), but no new versions seem to be added to `nix-env -qa ghc` (ghc-8.6.4 and ghc-8.6.5 only).
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<hhefesto>
Would it be correct to say that adding older nix-channels (i.e. `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-<old> && nix-channel --update`) should add older available versions (i.e. `nix-env -qa ghc` increments)?
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<li_matrix>
anyone know how to get runtime deps of a derivaton during evluation?
<clever>
li_matrix: you cant
<clever>
li_matrix: the runtime deps are based on the subset of buildtime deps, found in the built result
<li_matrix>
right and I cant evaluate build results
<li_matrix>
thats what ai thought. thanks a lot for comfirming
<li_matrix>
well I need to change that
<clever>
li_matrix: what do you need that list for?
<li_matrix>
been looking at a lot of PRs and RFCs
<li_matrix>
to create a FS namespace
<li_matrix>
limit a container to only the runtime deps of the closure
<clever>
li_matrix: you can get that list at build-time
<clever>
li_matrix: one min
<simpson>
li_matrix: How are you building your comtainer?
<jonge[m]>
is there a quick way to set up build slaves for a hydra instance if those build slaves can directly reach the hydra, but hydra cannot reach the slaves? (e.g. becuase the slaves are normal computers at home)
<jonge[m]>
yorick: So your suggestion is: make the hydra server also a wireguard server. make all build slaves automatically connect to the wireguard server after boot. the hydra server can then see the slaves like local machines, and if they are up it will use them as build slaves. correct?
<yorick>
jonge[m]: yes
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<jonge[m]>
yorick: sounds awesome. thx
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[nix] @CSVdB opened pull request #2896 → Added nonFlakeRequires test → https://git.io/fjRDt
<dminuoso>
cf6b88f: The reason is that the word "a" does not make sense to me in that sentence.
<tobiasBora>
I'd like to know, does nix provides some low-weight docker-like features to isolate a process? I'd like to run some scripts but I don't fully trust them (they may have security issues that could let malwares in), but running a full docker is a bit heavy on my small rasp
<immae>
tobiasBora: nix doesn’t provide it "as nix", but you can use tools like bwrap (bubblewrap)
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<cf6b88f>
dminuoso: The things you create by running nixos-rebuild -p name switch
<dminuoso>
cf6b88f: those are generations
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<cf6b88f>
dminuoso: Yeah, I created a couple of different -p name things, now I want to rework and consolidate them. I tried running nix-env -p /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-profiles/checkpoint2 --delete-generations 1 but this fails with "cannot delete current generation".
<cf6b88f>
dminuoso: The (current) is not entirely true as I've booted into another one.
<cf6b88f>
dminuoso: It's just the only generation with that tag, so I suppose something needs to be current.
<immae>
tobiasBora according to the documentation: "Warning: Currently, NixOS containers are not perfectly isolated from the host system. This means that a user with root access to the container can do things that affect the host. So you should not give container root access to untrusted users. "
<dminuoso>
cf6b88f: Delete the directory and then GC.
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<dminuoso>
(Or I guess you can skip the GC and defer that)
<tobiasBora>
immae: yep, but if it's not for security, I'm not sure to see what other use case we have from these containers. What is the typical usecase of them?
<immae>
I think the main issue is that they’re still in development
<cf6b88f>
dminuoso: Thanks, that seems to not have broken anything.
<tobiasBora>
immae: so you mean that for now they don't really have specific use case, but in few years they should be secure, and then useful?
<immae>
I have no idea, I don’t make the roadmap of nixos :) but that’s how I understand the "currently, (...)"
<tobiasBora>
ok thanks ^^
<goibhniu1>
tobiasBora: they're super useful for defining an isolated environment with various services e.g. for web development
<goibhniu1>
IIUC they're not less secure than docker containers
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<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: what do you mean by isolated?
<tobiasBora>
you mean that it could be useful to have two running instances of, say, postgresql?
<dminuoso>
tobiasBora: What about just plain lxc?
<goibhniu1>
I use them a lot. For example, I have containers with nginx, varnish, ldap, postgres and various python services that I'm developing.
<tobiasBora>
dminuoso: lxc is secure?
<goibhniu1>
it makes it easy to maintain the containers separately from my host system
<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: so you mean you develop them on your laptop, run them on your laptop, and when it's good you push them to the server?
<goibhniu1>
exactly
<tobiasBora>
interesting
<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: and you can deal with ssl that way?
<goibhniu1>
Being able to define them declaratively is very convenient. I can easily spin up a new one.
<goibhniu1>
I don't generally worry about SSL for development (not sure if I understand the question completely)
<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: ok. It's just that for security I prefer to allow only ssl, but then for testing it's not practical because I don't know how to provide them as nixos automatically generate them from this great website I forgot the name
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<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: and also, on the server you actually run a container also, or you copy the content of the container only? (if you run the container I guess you need to do something to share some partitions...)
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<tobiasBora>
goibhniu1: and if you have any references for that kind of deployment, or even git examples, I'd be interested!
<goibhniu1>
yeah, you could use containers for deployment too. I believe NixOps supports deploying to containers
<magherus>
hello, I'm trying to install some packages from the https://hydra.dhall-lang.org/jobset/dhall-haskell/master/channel/latest channel and always getting an error like $ nix-env -i dhall-lsp-server installing 'dhall-lsp-server-0.1.0.1' error: path '/nix/store/n0v4z0a82yms75ng4s3v34chkl5d3aps-dhall-lsp-server-0.1.0.1' does not exist and cannot be created
<magherus>
am I missing anything?
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[rfcs] @globin pushed commit from @shlevy to master « [RFC 0044] Disband the Nix Core Team (#44) »: https://git.io/fjRy2
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[rfcs] @globin merged pull request #44 → [RFC 0044] Disband the Nix Core Team → https://git.io/fjs4i
<goibhniu1>
tobiasBora: BTW, I have a rather old screencast on how I use nixos containers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pAsTRZBMvM (I haven't changed my setup since then)
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[nixpkgs] @timokau pushed to master « tridactyl-native: init at 1.14.9 (#61703) »: https://git.io/fjR9e
<jonge[m]>
i have a problem on nixos 19.03 here... i configured a wireguard server according to https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Wireguard - and after a reboot the log says `modprobe: FATAL: Module wireguard not found in directory /lib/modules/5.0.3`. shouldn't the modules be in place just by activating wireguard via the module expression?
<arianvp>
I could enable RemainAfterExit=true but that seems to be a bit of a hack
<Baughn>
Hmm. Well, the quick and dirty fix would be to add a second unit which does nothing, but which doesn't exit, which is set to run after your oneshot.
<Baughn>
Or that.
<gchristensen>
arianvp: is the unit RemainAFterExit?
<arianvp>
gchristensen: not it isnt
<arianvp>
the unit is fired periodically by a timer unit, and I think that doesnt work if I enable RemainAfterExit, no?
<gchristensen>
I think it must for it to be "active", and thus to wait for it
<gchristensen>
hmmm
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[nixpkgs] @WilliButz opened pull request #62153 → avahi: set service directory and refactor module → https://git.io/fjR9b
* arianvp
is very tempted to rewrite Machine.pm to use the systemd dbus API so I could just listen to dbus events
<LnL>
you can wait for a port to open up
<gchristensen>
arianvp: that would be incredible...!
<arianvp>
LnL: the oneshot service doesnt allocate any ports
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<arianvp>
gchristensen: yes, fun one for on a hackathon
<LnL>
sure but whatever is serving the endpoint is
<arianvp>
LnL:Yes, nginx.service is running, but it gets reloaded by the oneshot once the certs have been requested
<LnL>
or does it start without certs?
<LnL>
ah :/
<arianvp>
LnL: yes starts without certs
<arianvp>
because it needs to be running to do the acme handshake :P
<arianvp>
heh. this is a fun one
<LnL>
I thought it would start but not listen util everything is sorted out
<arianvp>
LnL: it needs to listen to the letsencrypt api requesting .well-known/acme-challenge
<gchristensen>
doesn't it start with snakeoil certs?
<arianvp>
gchristensen: yes
<arianvp>
we trick nginx in starting early with snakeoils
<arianvp>
hmmph
<arianvp>
before, the tests relied on a .target to be activated, but that isn't reliable (that's the whole thing im fixing)
<arianvp>
so cant do that either
<arianvp>
well maybe I could make a .target per cert. bit hacky, but could work
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<arianvp>
but that would just be to work around the test suite not being expressive enough, whilst cluttering code. not sure if that's the best approach
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[nixpkgs] @markuskowa opened pull request #62154 → halide: fix to llvm6 → https://git.io/fjRHk
<pie___>
aswanson, you around? maybe you can help: I want to use an sql database from R, but library(odbc); library(DBI); odbcListDrivers() gives me an empty list :C
* pie___
shrugs needs more nix integration i guess
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<pie___>
,locate libodbcmyS.so
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Couldn't find in any packages
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<pie___>
man configurung this odbc stuff sucks
<ajs124>
pie__, what do you need it for?
<pie___>
trying to query an sql server with R
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<aanderse>
pie___: i thought odbc was pretty straight forward to use on nixos... what is your issue?
<pie___>
aanderse, i probabyl jsut dont know how to use it
<pie___>
none of the odbc stuff i tried lists anything
<pie___>
i guess i need to just set the global config option, that seems super stupid though
<aanderse>
yeah it isn't great as far as isolation goes, but that might be more an issue with the actual software
<aanderse>
simply adding environment.unixODBCDrivers = with pkgs.unixODBCDrivers; [ whatever-driver-you-need ]; sets it up nicely though
<pie___>
yeah i just tried that and it worked
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<pie___>
also installing RMariaDB for R fails for some reason but thats a sidenote :/
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[nixpkgs] @Lassulus opened pull request #62157 → nixos/syncthing: run init only if a declarative option was set → https://git.io/fjR7a
<Zer0xp>
Hey, does anyone here know how to install i3lock ?
<Zer0xp>
With a key binding
<pie___>
aanderse, thanks for reminding me to just try the config optuion
<aanderse>
np
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<pie___>
aanderse,
<pie___>
Error: nanodbc/nanodbc.cpp:950: 01000: [unixODBC][Driver Manager]Can't open lib '/nix/store/9gs33drc41pv9bi9f01dqqc7r5h2xg5r-mariadb-connector-odbc-2.0.10/lib/libmaodbc.so' : file not found
<pie___>
id also try RMariaDB but that doesnt build >:(
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<pie___>
well this yealds a ton of results for various different things but how do i solve my problem >:( unixodbc "open lib"
<pie___>
i mean googlinv unixodbc "open lib"
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[nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #62158 → swig: use pname and standardize meta → https://git.io/fjRdl
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<pie___>
,locate mysql.h
<{^_^}>
Found in packages: mariadb, mysql55, mysql57, libmysql, kodestudio, percona-server, haxePackages.hxcpp
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<Guanin>
Hi, I've got a strange issue with home-managers zsh module. I want to use oh-my-zshs amuse theme, but still get the current working directory from the vanilla "walters" prompt (which seems to be the default one?) on the right side
<gchristensen>
wucke13: it was shut down like 2 years ago, and since then nixos.wiki has come up
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<wucke13>
gchristensen: Ahrg. Ok ok. Googling "nixos wiki" yield two dead links for me but no to the new wiki on the first page. What a shame. Anyway, thanks :)
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[nixpkgs] @fgaz opened pull request #62160 → nixos/mlmmj: add more list headers → https://git.io/fjRdp
<gchristensen>
ouch
<gchristensen>
that is unfortunate ...
<aanderse>
gchristensen: did you start doing office hours yet?
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<gchristensen>
mmm no, I have sucked at following through on that :/ I think I'm trying to make it in to something too big -- and should just do anything
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<aanderse>
mhm mhm
<aanderse>
anything > nothing
<gchristensen>
yeah :|
<aanderse>
i'm still contemplating your "bbq hours" offer ;-)
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<gchristensen>
I think that would be great fun
<aanderse>
it would!
<aanderse>
the only consideration is logistics of the trip
<gchristensen>
right
<samueldr>
north america is huge
<aanderse>
my wife generally isn't a fan of me telling her "going on 16 hour road trip and bbq... be back at some point. ps. good luck with the kids"
<gchristensen>
lol
<gchristensen>
bring them along I guess :P lots of fun things to do in the area. for a rural county, we have remarkable art (MASS MoCA, The Clark, Berkshire Museum, among others) and musical events (like Tanglewood)
<aanderse>
yeah my wife has almost never been to the states so a trip might be fun
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<wucke13>
Is someone here using the matrix-synape module with the webclient?
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<nixy>
wucke13: What are you trying to do?
<wucke13>
Starting it with the webclient available
<nixy>
What problems are you having? The web client isn't great IMO. You'd probably be better serving riot-web for riot's web interface
<wucke13>
Hmmh ok
<wucke13>
How do I create an account on the local server?
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<nixy>
You need to use the `register_new_matrix_user` command that comes with matrix-synapse. Easiest way to get the version that your instance is using is to pull the /nix/stores/....matrix-synapse.../ path out of `systemctl status matrix-synapse`
<Miyu-saki>
error: i686 Linux package set can only be used with the x86 family.
<Miyu-saki>
tilpner: It's a nixpkgs thing.
<Miyu-saki>
pkgsi686Linux = if stdenv.hostPlatform.isLinux && stdenv.hostPlatform.isx86 then nixpkgsFun {
<Miyu-saki>
Line 156 on my local copy.
<Miyu-saki>
I could always just use `system`
<tilpner>
Yes, I was going to suggest that
<Miyu-saki>
It's been a month since I've worked on Nix, what is the proper system?
<Miyu-saki>
There's system and platform, and localSystem
<Miyu-saki>
Not sure which to pass to.
<emilsp>
is npm2nix broken?
<Miyu-saki>
I guess lib.systems.examples is a start.
<Miyu-saki>
Oh wait, I actually have nfi.
<Miyu-saki>
Because seems like we have 2 things which says "system"
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<Miyu-saki>
IIRC, system is a string?
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<Miyu-saki>
miyu@localhost:~$ NIXPKGS_ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM=1 nix run '(with (let x = import <nixpkgs> { system = "i686-linux"; }; in x); pkgs.wine)'
<Miyu-saki>
(Don't mind the fixpoint "attempt" there
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<Miyu-saki>
But yeah, that seems to work.
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<Miyu-saki>
For the curious. I got a phone and now want to qemu wine.
<infinisil>
Btw you can also do `import <nixpkgs> { config.allowUnsupportedSystem = true; }`
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<Jonathan__>
Quick question. Is there some sort of spread operator in Nix Expressions?
<azazel>
not that i'm aware of
<Jonathan__>
I wand to import a list and use it to extend another list. I also want to import a set and use it to extend another set. Is there a good way to do that?
<azazel>
but you have head/tail
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<infinee_>
any Rust programmers have a shell.nix for dev environment? Are you still using the mozilla overlay? I have rustc+cargo working but when I install racer and rust-src, I can't figure out how to set RUST_SRC_PATH for racer
<Yaniel>
I have just rustup from nixpkgs nowadays
<infinee_>
Yaniel: so you just hardwire the /nix/store location of rustlib? for RUST_SRC_PATH?
<Yaniel>
no
<kuznero[m]>
Hi All! Question about VPN: does anybody have a good/convenient solution that works in NixOS? I have rather combersome setup based on systemd openvpn services to different regions. But having an app that could allow me switching from one region to another would be interesting.
<Yaniel>
just let rustup do its thing in $HOME/.cargo like everywhere else
<Yaniel>
I
<Yaniel>
*
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<infinee_>
ok, maybe I'm trying to do too much in my shell.nix
<Yaniel>
thing is, I want stuff to work in atom, which I don't start from nix-shell
<Yaniel>
so I actually have rustup set outside of shell.nix
<infinee_>
yeah that's what I figured you were doing
<Yaniel>
if I was going to actually package something that's a different story of course
<{^_^}>
[nixops] @selaux opened pull request #1157 → Do not require a valid activation in order to use ssh key → https://git.io/fjRAg
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<kuznero[m]>
Is there a way to convert deb to nix package somehow?
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<Yaniel>
yes
<Yaniel>
a bunch of packages download upstream debs and unpack them manually
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<kuznero[m]>
Yaniel: could you please point to any of the example of how is it done?
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<Yaniel>
the renoise package at least does this
<Yaniel>
but it's not the simplest example
<kuznero[m]>
I will try to find it and see. Thanks
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<Miyu-saki>
How do I use the nixpkgs version of home-manager?
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<Miyu-saki>
Disregard. I just lazed out and checked out home-manager lol
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<genesis>
i'm writing some derivation, and i call python3Packages.buildPythonApplication but it still warning : wxPython-3.0.2.0 not supported for interpreter python3.7
<Miyu-saki>
goibhniu1: Yes, and I hope that I'm not belittling his work, but it kind of made me realize that package managers are much more than the binaries.
<goibhniu1>
cool
<Miyu-saki>
FWIW, I'll be contributing to it.
<Miyu-saki>
But I can't just use it asa daily driver.
<Miyu-saki>
(I have Termux, UserLAnd and that intalled on my phone rn)
<Miyu-saki>
Just to check if I have to root or nay.
<Miyu-saki>
I think the problem is kind of alleviated if you use home-manager though, which from what I understand, nix-on-droid highly recommends using.
<dminuoso>
So how does one package a nix derivation and nix module together in such a way that you can distribute it via a nix channel? What documentation should I be looking at?
<dminuoso>
(Or can you tuck a nix module into a derivation?)
<dminuoso>
niksnut: So I guess I'd rather have some `foo` package and some `foo-real` where `foo` is a module that adds `foo-real` to the systemPackages?
<dminuoso>
(The reason I want the seperation is because not all our users have nixos, some just use nix)
<niksnut>
yes
<niksnut>
like how the dwarffs flake defines a dwarffs package and a dwarffs module
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<Zer0xp>
Hey, does anyone here use the google-authenticator package in NixOS ? I've been trying to figure out how to get it to work but so far, no luck. Can someone help me out ?
<dsx>
Would this «boot.kernelPatches = [ { name = "ipvs-ipv6-config"; patch = null; extraConfig = "IP_VS_IPV6 y"; } ];» be a good way to enable CONFIG_IP_VS_IPV6? Or there is a more better way to do that?
<dsx>
Also, who do I need to bribe to get that config option enabled by default? ;)
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<Zer0xp>
Hey, does anyone here use the google-authenticator package in NixOS ? I've been trying to figure out how to get it to work but so far, no luck. Can someone help me out ?
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<sobol>
ignore -channels #nixos * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
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[nixpkgs] @dsx opened pull request #62172 → kernel: Enable IPv6 support for IPVS (CONFIG_IP_VS_IPV6 y) → https://git.io/fjRhv
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<infinisil>
Zer0xp: Can you open an issue for that?
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<ris>
has anyone ever suggested making `makeOverridable` rename any _existing_ `override` attr to something like `overrideInner`?
<ris>
or would such a suggestion get one hanged as a lunatic
<ris>
?
<rfold>
When I type the name of a program that I do not have installed, NixOS tells me how to install it: "The program ‘sl’ is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: nix-env -iA nixos.sl"
<rfold>
Is there a way I can see this message for a given program, while I *do* have that program installed?
<samueldr>
command-not-found sl
<rfold>
Thanks, that works! :D
<samueldr>
you might also be interested in the nix-locate command of nix-index
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<Zer0xp>
Hey, does anyone here use the google-authenticator package in NixOS ? I've been trying to figure out how to get it to work but so far, no luck. Can someone help me out ?
<rfold>
I am writing a script that uses nix-shell to ensure a portable development environment, and I wanted to know which package prove(1) comes from so I can pass that to nix-shell -p
<infinisil>
Zer0xp: Don't spam your question, and I asked you something before, you didn't reply
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjRhI
<gchristensen>
I'd like to do: something (name: value: { "foo-${name}" = ...; "bar-${name}" = ...; }) { x = "hi"; y = "there";} and get out { "foo-x" = ...; "foo-y" = ...; "bar-x" = ...; "bar-y" = ...; } is there an existing function for this beyond some fold and map calls?
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[patchelf] @edolstra pushed to master « flake.nix: Set epoch »: https://git.io/fjRhZ
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