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<arcnmx> There is https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/2236 which potentially interacts or may naturally help with the problem if implemented, but I hadn't found any real specific mention of it in issues or documentation.
<{^_^}> nix#2236 (by lheckemann, 45 weeks ago, open): Treat remote builders as substituters?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60551 → godot: 3.1 -> 3.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZOE
<pie_> just explains more about what one can do with access
<pie_> arcnmx, yeah ok i dont see an issue either with a quick skim, you could try opening one
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<arcnmx> Yeah I did find that, though it only asks about shell access. It seems to be a reasonable enough question, how to constrain RCE of build users to nix daemon/sandboxed operations. The problem being if the user needs to be trusted by the daemon, you're basically giving away root to machines and even advised that they keys be stored on disks without a passphrase. At that point limiting ssh doesn't mean much ._.
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<pie_> i mean, code exec is code exec
<pie_> that seems to be the general thing with computers
<arcnmx> (the answer anyway there probably is to keep build machines isolated/virtualized/etc. for various reasons, but you still have the problem that all build users with access to the same build server have to also implicitly trust each other)
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<pie_> I dont know enough about how this stuff works to say anything
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<arcnmx> Mm, well, it probably at least could use an issue and some mention in documentation. It currently seems unclear that naively/casually setting up a build machine requires giving up more control than one would expect from the way the nix daemon works with local users.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #60552 → binutils: apply patch when cross compiling from darwin → https://git.io/fjZOP
<pie_> please do
* arcnmx nods
<gchristensen> hrm I thought it was documented pretty nicely in the "trusted-users" docs?
<gchristensen> (by all means yes)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #60553 → pythonPackages.asyncssh: 1.15.1 -> 1.16.1, fixing build with some caveats around ec25519 support → https://git.io/fjZOD
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<arcnmx> gchristensen: trusted-users is indeed documented fine, what was unclear to me is that remote builders need to be trusted to begin with, which seems to change the security expectations of remote building a fair bit. The docs and wiki do not seem to mention this at all.
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<arcnmx> (the wiki has a troubleshooting footnote that says "If on NixOS, make sure your account is in nix.trustedUsers in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix" but isn't clear whether it's referring to the "local" machine where this is reasonable and expected, or the "remote" account, which to me is surprising and unnecessary)
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<gchristensen> hrm indeed I suppose https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#chap-distributed-builds isn't clear
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60554 → nanum-gothic-coding: move to where most fonts are (NFCI) → https://git.io/fjZOF
<arcnmx> My assumption was that since untrusted/allowed local users can initiate builds through the daemon, doing so over ssh with the distributed build functionality would work the same way without having to change to a less secure configuration.
<clever> yeah
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60555 → gromacs: 2019.1 -> 2019.2 → https://git.io/fjZOb
<arcnmx> I understood there would be drawbacks to setting it up that way without trusting the user (preventing remote users from supplying binary substitutes for example), but did not expect that it would be disallowed and prevented entirely. The subsequent error message was also unclear to me, since the user does indeed have permission to build derivations under normal circumstances.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60560 → haproxy: 1.9.6 -> 1.9.7 → https://git.io/fjZ3C
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<fresheyeball> anyone out there know how to force comonad to not depend on doctest so it can build with ghcjs?
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<matthewbauer> fresheyeball: i think the best you can do is set ```doctest = null```
<fresheyeball> matthewbauer: where would I do that? Can you be more explicit?
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<matthewbauer> fresheyeball: adding ```doctest = null``` to the haskell overrides like so: https://github.com/reflex-frp/reflex-platform/blob/f9adac0b6aef75e856387a4ebb533511a2079146/haskell-overlays/ghcjs.nix#L64
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<matthewbauer> fresheyeball: it's a bad hack but it handles cases like comonad where setup-depends in includes doctest
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<fresheyeball> matthewbauer: trying this out
<fresheyeball> I don't understand why things like this are not upstreamed
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60564 → help2man: 1.47.9 -> 1.47.10 → https://git.io/fjZ36
<fresheyeball> matthewbauer: ok so that got it a wee bit further for sure
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<mog> any chance this will get fixed soon? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/57062
<{^_^}> #57062 (by SchrodingerZhu, 7 weeks ago, open): nvidia building failure for linux 5
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<arcnmx> What is a {memory:} gcroot?
<arcnmx> presumably the memory of... the daemon? something else?
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<parsnip> hmm, strange i could freely change the nixos configuration file from a set to a function
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<roconnor> Hi everyone, recently (last month or so) I have a problem where using Alt-Tab to switch windows in KDE causes 'kwin_x11' to crash.
<roconnor> I tried reverting to an older generation of NixOS but now the old generation has kwin_x11 crash immediately on startup.
<roconnor> Presumably it is some sort of qt upgrage thing gone awry. Is there some way I should be nuking my personal kde folders/setting to reset everything? Would that help?
<roconnor> Even starting sddm required me to remove /var/lib/sddm/.cache
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #60550 → ginac: 1.7.5 -> 1.7.6 → https://git.io/fjZYu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #60547 → geany: 1.34.1 -> 1.35 → https://git.io/fjZYJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #60532 → flrig: 1.3.42 -> 1.3.43 → https://git.io/fjZtE
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<samueldr> arcnmx: anything that has the store path in memory... it's assuming you want it rooted. Most likely something running referencing a library
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #60566 → pythonPackages.pyfakefs: fix build → https://git.io/fjZsU
<roconnor> Hmm, also the "present windows" corner effect doesn't seem to be working.
<arcnmx> samueldr: I guess my question is what is "anything" in this case, is it scanning /proc/*/mem for the system, and what does the number represent?
<samueldr> no idea about the number, but yes, memory
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<samueldr> though uh, [citation needed] on "yes, memory"
* samueldr digs through source
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<iqubic> Audio troubles plauge me today
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZsI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c merged pull request #60528 → solvespace: 2.3-20180906 -> 2.3-20190422 → https://git.io/fjZtY
<iqubic> I just launched my voice recorder, it ain't picking up my computer's built in microphone.
<iqubic> And when I open up pavucontrol and go to the input devices tab, I see nothing.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @booxter opened pull request #60568 → Add support for Epson network scanners → https://git.io/fjZsq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60569 → vnstat: 2.1 -> 2.2 → https://git.io/fjZsO
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<iqubic> The only input device I have is "Monitor of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo" and the line under it is not moving a bit.
<{^_^}> [nix] @samueldr opened pull request #2790 → findRootsNoTemp: fixes comment about findRuntimeRoots → https://git.io/fjZsc
<iqubic> 7C:A1:5D:6E:3A:DD
<iqubic> ignore that first thing.
<samueldr> arcnmx: a lot to take in, but it's more subtle than "all memory" https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/83f2b110cecf50877ce1585c698dbed6dd225562/src/libstore/gc.cc#L387-L481
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #60570 → binutils: add gettext → https://git.io/fjZs4
<arcnmx> samueldr: interesting, thanks!
<iqubic> Well, I have no idea why my built in microphone decided to screw up. But it isn't working right now.
<samueldr> the main idea is: don't pull the rug from under a running program
<samueldr> imagine if a dependency tree disappeared for a running program!
<iqubic> I blame 19.03 for screwing this up, as I updated to 19.03 a few days ago, and that's when my microphone decided to stop working.
<iqubic> I should note that I'm running Nixos on a laptop, if it wasn't clear.
<iqubic> The Dell Latitude 5480.
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<roconnor> seems nuking my ~/.cache directory has helped my kwin_x11 issues.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 3 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjZs0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60571 → infamousPlugins: 0.2.04 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/fjZsz
<iqubic> Also, different question: I'm staying usually live in the PST time zone, but I'm going to be vacationing for a week in the EST timezone. My Nixos laptop hasn't updated the time to the correct timezone. Should I do that myself or what?
<arcnmx> samueldr: makes sense, I was mostly curious because I was trying to --delete/query a store path and it was the delete command itself including the path in its command line that was getting caught as a live reference!
<clever> arcnmx: nix-store --delete /nix/store/foo will not depend on foo, for obvious reasons
<clever> but, sudo nix-store --delete /nix/store/foo, will result in sudo "using" it, so it can never be deleted
<arcnmx> clever: yeah, the problem looks like findRuntimeRoots checks environ vars of all processes and sudo exports its commandline as SUDO_COMMAND so got flagged as a reference
<clever> it also checks the argv
<clever> but you dont need sudo to delete paths
<clever> so just dont sudo it
<roconnor> iqubic: FWIW, kde's clock application can be configured to have the middle mouse wheel scroll between different displayed timezones. That is usuallly good enough for me, but the system timezone is defined in you configuration.nix file.
<clever> roconnor: i can also reconfigure the xfce clock to show any 1 timezone, and i can put multiple clocks onto a single taskbar
<clever> so i have 4 clocks on-screen, each showing a different timezone
<arcnmx> clever: hm, does it? cmdline isn't referenced there from a cursory glance, and I didn't see the same behaviour with any tool other than sudo
<clever> arcnmx: i think its because the nix deleting the path will exclude itself from the gcroots, but the sudo that started it isnt excluded
<arcnmx> and yeah, easy to work around once I realised why it was happening, just needed a user with daemon access and was curious
<iqubic> roconnor: I'm running EXWM.
<iqubic> But also, it's just a single week, I'm not sure how bad it will be to have the wrong time for a week.
<roconnor> ah well. The larger point is that you can probably configure your clock to display your visiting timezone; but commands like `ls` won't be affected unless you reconfigure your systems timezone in configuration.nix.
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<iqubic> Should I reconfigure my timezone in configuration.nix?
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<iqubic> Will this cause lasting system damage?
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<samueldr> how often do you use your computer's clock as your main clock?
<samueldr> or how likely are you to use it during the trip?
<iqubic> Well, when I'm at home it's almost 100% my main clock. While I'm on my trip, I won't be using my computer except late at night.
<samueldr> probably no need to futz with timezones anywhere, I'd bet
<iqubic> I won't change the timezone, it's fine.
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<roconnor> iqubic: internally Linux uses UTC for everything, so changing the system time generally only changes how things are displayed. There should be no lasting effect if you choose this.
<iqubic> That is the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
<clever> iqubic: you can even `export TZ=America/Halifax` to affect only the programs in one shell
<iqubic> Well, I'd chose TZ=America/Montreal, as that's where I am.
<iqubic> On trip. But I get your point.
<iqubic> I assume this is a list of valid values. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones
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<roconnor> it changes over time, but that is presumably a current list.
<yuken> Is the Adopt OpenJDK-JRE IBM's JRE?
<yuken> I see OpenJ9, I believe that's IBM's, but I'm not sure.
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<iqubic> So does anyone know what's up with my laptop
<iqubic> the built in microphone isn't working at all, but other microphones I plug in do work.
<iqubic> Is that an issue to be concerned about?
<clever> iqubic: run alsamixer, select the non-pulse device with f6, and then play with the mute and volume levels on the capture page
<iqubic> How do I mute/unmute something from the alsamixer TUI?
<clever> m
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60573 → openblas: 0.3.5 -> 0.3.6 → https://git.io/fjZs5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #60494 → cvs_fast_export: 1.47 -> 1.48 → https://git.io/fjZJa
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<iqubic> I don't know what I did with Alsamixer, but now nothing is working. My laptop's built in microphone isn't working, and neither is the external one I had connected by bluetooth.
<iqubic> The external bluetooth mic was working until literally a moment ago.
<clever> keep doing things!
<iqubic> Wait... No. That wasn't working before either.
<iqubic> Weird stuff is happening.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60574 → ipopt: 3.12.12 -> 3.12.13 → https://git.io/fjZsA
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<iqubic> If I ask Pavucontrol to show me all the hardware input devices, it shows me a blank list.
<iqubic> Is that bad?
<iqubic> clever: ^^^
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<infinisil> Did you try turning it off and on again
<iqubic> Turning what off and on again?
<clever> iqubic: check the device profiles on the configuration tab
<iqubic> What profile do I want to set for my Built-In Audio?
<clever> try all of them!
<iqubic> That's a long long long list of options.
<iqubic> First option I tried was the right one.
<iqubic> I had a profile set that gave me only the output.
<iqubic> And that solves that problem.
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<srl295> Open j9 was developed by ibm yes
<srl295> ^ yuken
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #60554 → nanum-gothic-coding: move to where most fonts are (NFCI) → https://git.io/fjZOF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill reopened pull request #60562 → harfbuzz: 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0 → https://git.io/fjZ30
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<zen_monk> could someone help me with a weechat error really quick ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60585 → lgogdownloader: 3.4 -> 3.5 → https://git.io/fjZZu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60586 → libbluray: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZZ2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #60587 → makemkv: 1.14.1 -> 1.14.3 → https://git.io/fjZZV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60588 → libcdio: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fjZZK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60589 → libdrm: 2.4.97 -> 2.4.98 → https://git.io/fjZZX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #60590 → buck: fix build → https://git.io/fjZZM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60592 → libgit2-glib: 0.27.8 -> 0.28.0.1 → https://git.io/fjZZp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60593 → libiconvReal: 1.15 -> 1.16 → https://git.io/fjZne
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60595 → libmediainfo: 18.12 -> 19.04 → https://git.io/fjZnZ
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<jybs> Hi all - somehow I've managed to pollute my nixos host with some containers I can't remove
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<jybs> nixos-container destroy doesn't work, I see nothing in the containers directory - yet list shows them
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60597 → libmwaw: 0.3.14 -> 0.3.15 → https://git.io/fjZnR
<jybs> I think it has something to do with . not being valid in container names :(
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<jybs> ah. quoted out the name check, works now
<jasongrossman> Does anyone have any experience with connecting a USB (or FireWire) audio interface to a NixOS machine? I'm about to buy one. (The former, not the latter.)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60599 → libqalculate: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/fjZnD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60600 → libqmi: 1.22.2 -> 1.22.4 → https://git.io/fjZnd
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<kaliumxyz> ping
<kaliumxyz> how do you guys monitor your cloudboxes?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #60587 → makemkv: 1.14.1 -> 1.14.3 → https://git.io/fjZZV
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<bifunc2> Please search webpage for "macOS": https://nixos.org/nixos/nix-pills/generic-builders.html
<bifunc2> There are no instructions there at all. Why?
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<bifunc2> "by using this modified version of hello.nix:" But nothing follows :S
<bifunc2> Has anyone gotten this to work on macOS?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60601 → librealsense: 2.20.0 -> 2.21.0 → https://git.io/fjZcT
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<kaliumxyz> ping
<kaliumxyz> wtf my dns is down?
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<sphalerite> bifunc2: oh, hm, seems like something went wrong with the formatting there! I'll open a PR to fix it. In the meantime, you can find the modified version at https://github.com/NixOS/nix-pills/blob/master/pills/08/hello-nix-darwin.txt
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ffc8ac2fad3 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60602 → libxmlb: 0.1.7 -> 0.1.8 → https://git.io/fjZcQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #60566 → pythonPackages.pyfakefs: fix build → https://git.io/fjZsU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZc5
<srhb> Is there a nice way to add a cert to the java pki chain? (Also, why the hell do they reimplement the entire thing...)
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<Taneb> Is there a tool to pretty-print a .drv file?
<srhb> Taneb: nix show-derivation
<Taneb> srhb++
<{^_^}> srhb's karma got increased to 53
<Taneb> Thanks, that worked!
<srhb> :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZcA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner closed pull request #60599 → libqalculate: 3.0.0 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/fjZnD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60603 → libx86emu: 2.2 -> 2.3 → https://git.io/fjZch
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60604 → lidarr: 0.6.0.815 -> 0.6.1.830 → https://git.io/fjZCq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #60605 → pythonPackages.reportlab: 3.5.13 -> 3.5.20 → https://git.io/fjZCm
<{^_^}> [nix-pills] @lheckemann opened pull request #112 → 08: Fix display of darwin-specific code → https://git.io/fjZCO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60606 → live555: 2019.03.06 -> 2019.04.24 → https://git.io/fjZCr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @glesica opened pull request #60607 → dart: 2.0.0 -> 2.2.0 → https://git.io/fjZCo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 3 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/fjZC6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60608 → log4cplus: 2.0.3 -> 2.0.4 → https://git.io/fjZC1
<bifunc2> sphalerite thanks, that works :D
<{^_^}> nix-pills#112 (by lheckemann, 21 minutes ago, open): 08: Fix display of darwin-specific code
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60602 → libxmlb: 0.1.7 -> 0.1.8 → https://git.io/fjZcQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60601 → librealsense: 2.20.0 -> 2.21.0 → https://git.io/fjZcT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60600 → libqmi: 1.22.2 -> 1.22.4 → https://git.io/fjZnd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to staging « libqmi: 1.22.2 -> 1.22.4 »: https://git.io/fjZC9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60598 → libpst: 0.6.71 -> 0.6.72 → https://git.io/fjZnV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « libpst: 0.6.71 -> 0.6.72 »: https://git.io/fjZCH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60597 → libmwaw: 0.3.14 -> 0.3.15 → https://git.io/fjZnR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edef1c pushed to master « solvespace: 2.3-20190422 -> 2.3-20190501 »: https://git.io/fjZCd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60595 → libmediainfo: 18.12 -> 19.04 → https://git.io/fjZnZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60593 → libiconvReal: 1.15 -> 1.16 → https://git.io/fjZne
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60592 → libgit2-glib: 0.27.8 -> 0.28.0.1 → https://git.io/fjZZp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « libgit2-glib: 0.27.8 -> 0.28.0.1 »: https://git.io/fjZCA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60589 → libdrm: 2.4.97 -> 2.4.98 → https://git.io/fjZZX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60586 → libbluray: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZZ2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60585 → lgogdownloader: 3.4 -> 3.5 → https://git.io/fjZZu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60583 → ktlint: 0.31.0 -> 0.32.0 → https://git.io/fjZZT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60582 → kotlin: 1.3.30 -> 1.3.31 → https://git.io/fjZZv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60580 → jmol: 14.29.36 -> 14.29.40 → https://git.io/fjZG6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « jmol: 14.29.36 -> 14.29.40 »: https://git.io/fjZWv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60579 → jmeter: 5.1 -> 5.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZGw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60577 → jetty: 9.4.14.v20181114 -> 9.4.16.v20190411 → https://git.io/fjZGE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub merged pull request #60564 → help2man: 1.47.9 -> 1.47.10 → https://git.io/fjZ36
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pSub pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjZWU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60576 → jackett: 0.11.170 -> 0.11.256 → https://git.io/fjZGC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60574 → ipopt: 3.12.12 -> 3.12.13 → https://git.io/fjZsA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60572 → itk: 4.13.1 -> 4.13.2 → https://git.io/fjZsH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60571 → infamousPlugins: 0.2.04 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/fjZsz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60567 → icingaweb2: 2.6.2 -> 2.6.3 → https://git.io/fjZsk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60563 → hebcal: 4.16 -> 4.18 → https://git.io/fjZ3u
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « hebcal: 4.16 -> 4.18 »: https://git.io/fjZWO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60560 → haproxy: 1.9.6 -> 1.9.7 → https://git.io/fjZ3C
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « haproxy: 1.9.6 -> 1.9.7 »: https://git.io/fjZW3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60555 → gromacs: 2019.1 -> 2019.2 → https://git.io/fjZOb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « gromacs: 2019.1 -> 2019.2 »: https://git.io/fjZWs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60551 → godot: 3.1 -> 3.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZOE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « godot: 3.1 -> 3.1.1 »: https://git.io/fjZWG
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar pushed to master « Add 2019/08 »: https://git.io/fjZWZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60549 → gede: 2.12.3 -> 2.13.1 → https://git.io/fjZYL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « gede: 2.12.3 -> 2.13.1 »: https://git.io/fjZWn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60542 → galen: 2.3.7 -> 2.4.4 → https://git.io/fjZm6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60540 → fwup: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1 → https://git.io/fjZmu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60536 → folly: 2019.03.18.00 -> 2019.04.22.00 → https://git.io/fjZqJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60526 → flexget: 2.20.17 -> 2.20.22 → https://git.io/fjZtT
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60481 → c-blosc: 1.16.2 -> 1.16.3 → https://git.io/fjGjN
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60501 → drumkv1: 0.9.6 -> 0.9.7 → https://git.io/fjZTi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60489 → commandergenius: 2.3.2 -> 2.3.3 → https://git.io/fjZf3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60476 → bowtie2: 2.3.5 -> 2.3.5.1 → https://git.io/fjGhX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SRGOM opened pull request #60610 → Edited description → https://git.io/fjZWg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60530 → fldigi: 4.1.01 -> 4.1.03 → https://git.io/fjZtn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60523 → fasm-bin: 1.73.10 -> 1.73.11 → https://git.io/fjZL2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60604 → lidarr: 0.6.0.815 -> 0.6.1.830 → https://git.io/fjZCq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60537 → fontforge: 20190317 -> 20190413 → https://git.io/fjZqo
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<Taneb> How can I debug my local Hydra not performing a build? The log for hydra-queue-runner says "loading" for it but not anything after
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60455 → aravis: 0.6.1 -> 0.6.2 → https://git.io/fjGdd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner opened pull request #60611 → kicad: 5.0.2 -> 5.1.2 → https://git.io/fjZWX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60612 → lynis: 2.7.3 -> 2.7.4 → https://git.io/fjZW1
<teto> gchristensen: I have an XPS like you do. Did you manage to upgrade the bios by copying the .exe to /boot/EFI ? or by using fwup. I am looking at your blog and will go the usb-key way for now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60457 → at-spi2-core: 2.32.0 -> 2.32.1 → https://git.io/fjGFO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60522 → facter: 3.13.1 -> 3.13.2 → https://git.io/fjZLu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60487 → cogl: 1.22.2 -> 1.22.4 → https://git.io/fjZvF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60483 → calibre: 3.41.3 -> 3.42.0 → https://git.io/fjZeR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « calibre: 3.41.3 -> 3.42.0 »: https://git.io/fjZWA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60479 → btrbk: 0.27.2 -> 0.28.0 → https://git.io/fjGj0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « btrbk: 0.27.2 -> 0.28.0 »: https://git.io/fjZWx
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<andi-> srhb: not sure if it is of much use but I have this in my home-manager config to add a custom root CA to gradle: https://gist.github.com/andir/e1bb148aea02a98b8b18376cb8b7321c
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<rycee> srhb: You mean system level certificates? Like through `security.pki.certificateFiles`…
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aethelz opened pull request #60616 → docui: init at 1.0.3 → https://git.io/fjZlB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nyanloutre opened pull request #60617 → Jellyfin 10 3 2 → https://git.io/fjZlR
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<klntsky> How to build a rust crate that requires nightly compiler features?
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<qyliss^work> klntsky: check out the mozilla rust overlay
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<klntsky> qyliss^work: ah, I didn't mention that I wanted to contribute a package to nixpkgs. And I don't see any packages using nixpkgs-mozilla out there.
<qyliss^work> Oh
<qyliss^work> I don't believe there's a good way of doing that
<Taneb> klntsky: what are you trying to package?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bachp opened pull request #60620 → gitlab-runner: 11.9.2 -> 11.10.1 → https://git.io/fjZlD
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<fendor> What is the state of localization in nixos? E.g. I am having troubles using unicode on NixOs 19.03 KDE. I can not seem to enter them into konsole, neither kitty, and the latter is definitely capable of using unicode.
<fendor> Thus, sometimes applications die if they output unicodepoints
<FRidh> glibc on 19.03 has support for C.UTF-8
<FRidh> other locales can be added through glibcLocales. Did you check https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#locale ?
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<fendor> FRidh, not more than just C.UTF-8?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #60611 → kicad: 5.0.2 -> 5.1.2 → https://git.io/fjZWX
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<fendor> FRidh, I didnt review my console font, that might change it!
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<andi-> klntsky: never done that but that but there is a newer argument to buildRustCrate that allows you to pass additional compiler flags. Maybe you can enable nightly features with that? (extraRustcOpts that is)
<teto> first time using fwupd, gosh that's cool ! was getting mad at dell for the seemingly no instructions for linux whereas XPS is advertised as linux friendly
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #60621 → stlink: fix Darwin build → https://git.io/fjZlh
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<jakkn> hi, I just lost network on a fresh nixos install on a laptop using NetworkManager. It was working before I lost power (no low power notification) but now I find no networks. ifconfig reports only interface 'lo'. NM logs end with "No agents were available for this request." Any ideas?
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<jakkn> no new software installed or configs changed
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee pushed commit from @jansol to release-19.03 « pycdio: fix build »: https://git.io/fjZ8C
<AlexRice[m]> Does your laptop have a button to turn off the wifi controller?
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<AlexRice[m]> mine does and I always accidently press it and wonder for ages why i can't connect to anything
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #60623 → openocd: update libftdi dependency, fix Darwin build → https://git.io/fjZ8l
<jakkn> it's a Lenovo Yoga 710-14IKB. There's an airplane mode key, but I have no drivers for the special keys so I assume they do not work
<jakkn> they're all fn keys
<AlexRice[m]> Could try pressing it anyway
<jakkn> no effect
<AlexRice[m]> My special keys worked without any setup
<AlexRice[m]> was worth a try
<jakkn> scratch that, the logs say different
<jakkn> state now 'unblocked'
<AlexRice[m]> does nmcli just have lo?
<jakkn> yes
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<AlexRice[m]> Ah, I really don't know then, sorry
<Twey> How do I generate Gemfile.lock for bundlerApp?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60624 → masterpdfeditor: 5.3.22 -> 5.4.04 → https://git.io/fjZ8u
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<adisbladis> Twey: It should already be in the upstream sources?
<Twey> adisbladis: I want to add a dependency… I'm trying to create a version of asciidoctor that has https://github.com/riboseinc/asciidoctor-bibliography . That package says I just need to add a thing to my Gemfile, but I guess I then need to update Gemfile.lock
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60625 → mbedtls: 2.16.0 -> 2.17.0 → https://git.io/fjZ8a
<Twey> https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Packaging/Ruby just says ‘# generate Gemfile.lock’ which doesn't help me :þ I presume there's some kind of Ruby command that creates a Gemfile.lock given a Gemfile, but I don't know what it is
<adisbladis> Twey: Then I guess you're gonna have to do a `bundle install`
<Twey> `bundle update` doesn't seem to work on NixOS — it expects some store directory to be writeable
<Twey> Same with `bundle install`
<fendor> can I allow broken for a single invocation of nix-shell?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60626 → mbpfan: 2.1.0 -> 2.1.1 → https://git.io/fjZ8K
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<buffet> hey, just making sure: magick++ (c++ library, part of imagemagick) isnt packaged, right?
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar merged pull request #91 → Call for Content: 2019/08 → https://git.io/fjYi0
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar pushed 5 commits to production: https://git.io/fjZ8M
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar pushed to master « Call for Conent: 2019/09 »: https://git.io/fjZ8S
<{^_^}> [nixos-weekly] @domenkozar opened pull request #93 → Call for Conent: 2019/09 → https://git.io/fjZ89
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60627 → mediainfo-gui: 18.12 -> 19.04 → https://git.io/fjZ87
<Taneb> domenkozar[m]++
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #60628 → texlive.bin.core-big: fix build → https://git.io/fjZ8N
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<gchristensen> teto: I never tried copying it to /boot/EFI -- didn't know you could!
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<gchristensen> domenkozar++
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<sondr3> I'm having some trouble creating shell completions from a CLI tool I'm packaging, when I try to run it and generate shell completions I get `bug: mkdir /homeless-shelter: permission denied`, any idea what that means?
<gchristensen> it is trying to write data at $HOME which does not exist
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #60630 → emby: Drop package and module and refer to jellyfin → https://git.io/fjZ4t
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #60618 → python.pkgs.pyasn1-modules: fix python2 tests → https://git.io/fjZlV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau pushed to staging-next « python.pkgs.pyasn1-modules: fix python2 tests (#60618) »: https://git.io/fjZ4m
<sondr3> oh, okay, then I'll just create a temporary home
<sondr3> thanks gchristensen, that worked like a charm
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<teto> gchristensen: well I tried copying in various places but during the "Flash from file" prompt it doesn't see any of the file. fwupd worked just perfectly
<gchristensen> nice
<teto> now trying to disable the "Dynamic Backlight Control" that drives me crazy but looks like it is not possible from linux
<gchristensen> I took another route for updates, too, which is just booting Win10 off a USB disk and installing from that
<gchristensen> you have the 9380?
<gchristensen> that is changable from the firmware interface
<teto> 9365 2 in 1 but the "DBC" has been here for long
<gchristensen> ah
<teto> how could anyone find this thing useful ? like you open a menu and the whole screen color changes ffs xD
<gchristensen> ...no idea.
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<gchristensen> I tried for a week to get used to it, just in case it was a "thing I'm grumpy about but is actually pretty cool" thing ... but I couldn't.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed to master « emacs-libvterm: unstable-2018-11-16 -> unstable-2019-04-28 »: https://git.io/fjZ4Z
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<gchristensen> qyliss^work: fwiw there are some xhyve tools in https://github.com/nix-community/linuxkit-nix
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<qyliss^work> ooooooooh
<gchristensen> you probably don't want to go the linuxkit-nix route for your system overall, but some of the tools in there are likely useful
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sondr3 opened pull request #60631 → jump: init at 0.23.0 → https://git.io/fjZ4C
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #60617 → jellyfin: 10.3.1 -> 10.3.2 → https://git.io/fjZlR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZ4R
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<cmacrae> colemickens: Yo! H
<cmacrae>
<cmacrae> [Wed May 1 2019]
<cmacrae>
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<cmacrae> *** Topic for #nixos: NixOS stable: 19.03 \o/
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<sondr3> wut
<andi-> that was swift action.. Still tried to figure out what was going on
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<gchristensen> I've made that mistake enough times to know exactly what happened :P
<emilsp> is the passff-host package broken? My firefox's pass plugin can't reach pass.
<sondr3> as an IRC noob, what happened?
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<gchristensen> they use a text-based IRC client and accidentally copy-pasted the channel text to the input
<cmacrae> Argh! sorry about the paste, people
<gchristensen> it happens from time to time :)
<cmacrae> Fat-fingered my message, haha
<gchristensen> no worries!
<andi-> for weechat: /set weechat.look.paste_max_lines 0
<andi-> requires confirmation of even 1 line pastes
<gchristensen> wow! nice!
<cmacrae> I use ERC in Emacs. I'm sure there's a similar setting
<cmacrae> Thanks for the reminder andi-
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<gchristensen> oh yeah, ERC ... I am especially good at making that mistake in ERC :)
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<cmacrae> I was sat there thinking "Why is all the text in my buffer white? That's weird... oh well"
<cmacrae> *hits enter*
<cmacrae> D:
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<cmacrae> Anyway! What I came here to ask colemickens; hope you don't mind the tag! I saw you mentioned on a HN thread somewhere that you were working on Wayland Chromium builds. Did you have any derivations up anywhere, or any sort of working examples?
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<talqu_> hi, i used this example https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/#module-security-acme-nginx to set up acme. The first time nixos-rebuilt switch worked, but all of the following ones throw an error Failed to start Renew ACME Certificate for my-example-domain.com
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<yorick> is bjornfor on irc somewhere?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60632 → mixxx: 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1 → https://git.io/fjZBf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60633 → mkp224o: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/fjZBk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60634 → spectral: 2019-03-03 -> 603 → https://git.io/fjZB3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #60635 → [19.03] virtualbox: 5.2.26 -> 5.2.28 → https://git.io/fjZBG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60636 → mosquitto: 1.6 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/fjZBc
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-19.03-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/82eade85f8e (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-19.03-darwin)
<genesis> $ nix-env -f ~/devel/nixpkgs -iK pydf
<genesis> error: selector 'pydf' matches no derivations
<genesis> same for you ? seems to be a pb with python3
<genesis> python3Packages.buildPythonPackage
<genesis> ( nix-env (Nix) 2.2.2 )
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #59456 → rust-cbindgen: 0.8.0 -> 0.8.3 → https://git.io/fjm2S
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZBu
<andi-> > pydf
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/awnj92syrq909c5xvjamws8f2kxajjzd-python3.7-pydf-12.drv>"
<genesis> oO, i don't understand, if i build hello it's ok.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #60624 → masterpdfeditor: 5.3.22 -> 5.4.10 → https://git.io/fjZ8u
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #60624 → masterpdfeditor: 5.3.22 -> 5.4.10 → https://git.io/fjZ8u
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZBa
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<emilsp> hrm, must I reboot my machine for zbar to work or is this package borked too? It seems that it does not scan QR codes at all.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 3 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjZBV
<andi-> genesis: what nixpkgs revisio have you checked out?
<emilsp> huh, no, zbar works on a _test_ qr code :(
<Taneb> Figured out why my Hydra build was stuck, it was a requried system dependency issue again
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<genesis> andi- : was on a 3cf719f605506eb4cccaf996ed299d15e64e8e3d
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<andi-> genesis: I can build that package in a nix shell of that revision
<genesis> let's try on tip.
* andi- never uses nix-env
<genesis> i still use it, you prefer nix-build ?
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<genesis> nix-build -I nixpkgs=~/devel/nixpkgs -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; pydf' works
<gchristensen> how about -iKA pydf
<genesis> i update nix recently, i wouldn't surprise.
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<genesis> gchristensen : oki with that
<genesis> but i don't use A when i use -f
<gchristensen> ,-iA
<genesis> and usually it works.
<gchristensen> ,-A
<{^_^}> You'll usually want to use nix-env -i with -A. It's faster and more precise. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/nix-env_-iA for details.
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<genesis> yeap i know, but since i use -f ... and usually it's work, it stop working with nix upgrade.
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<tdammers> is there a language reference for the nix language anywhere? all I can find are a few tutorial-style chapters in https://nixos.org/nix/manual/
<tdammers> that's a reference for the standard library functions, not for the language
<gchristensen> I'm not sure what you're seeing exists, but can you be more specific about what you'd like to know?
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<tdammers> https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#chap-writing-nix-expressions this is probably the closest, but it's inconvenient in that you have to read through the whole thing to extract the syntax rules
<tdammers> so what I would like is an exhaustive list of Nix syntax constructs
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<genesis> i wonder if there is not a chapter in the eelco thesis ?
<genesis> https://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/phd-thesis.pdf look there perharps
<genesis> he should write a o'reilly book :D
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<genesis> nix in a nixshell
<genesis> :')
<gchristensen> tdammers: can you link me to another langauge's documentation similar to what you'd like to see for Nix?
<manveru> my favorite is https://golang.org/ref/spec
<emilsp> anyone got a udev rule handy for setting the io scheduler of nvme drives to something other than deadline?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #60637 → gitlab: 11.9.8 -> 11.9.11 → https://git.io/fjZBy
<gchristensen> nice
<gchristensen> I imagine Nix's would be ... much, much shorter
<tdammers> gchristensen: https://json.org/ works well enough. https://yaml.org/spec/1.2/spec.html is a bit harder to digest, but otherwise pretty good still.
<manveru> yeah... :)
<jgt> how do I update a package with nix-darwin? I have pkgs.weechat in my environment.systemPackages, and that means weechat is at version 2.3. I'd like to be on a newer version.
<tdammers> I suspect that as far as complexity goes, Nix would sit somewhere in the middle between the two
<manveru> yaml spec is the stuff of nightmares :P
<tdammers> manveru: I'm not talking about the complexity of the language itself; the way it's presented is still pretty good
<manveru> true
<tdammers> manveru: say about yaml what you want, the language spec is exhaustive and fairly solid
<jgt> if I install weechat outside of nix-darwin with `nix-env -i weechat`, I get version 2.4
<jgt> but with nix-darwin, I only get 2.3
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<gchristensen> I have a deep appreciation the YAML group to include JSON as a formal subset
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<Guest13> anyone one?
<andi-> hi
<manveru> jgt: they're using different channels
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<manveru> so if it was a recent update, darwin might not be up to date yet
<jgt> manveru: ah, so does that mean 2.3 is the latest version of weechat on the darwin channel?
<jgt> (I don't think 2.4 is a recent update)
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<manveru> hmm, doesn't look like it
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<Guest13> I installed the package manager using the curl command in the website but when i tried to use any command such as nix-env it doesn't work
<jgt> weechat 2.4 was released 2019-02-17
<manveru> darwin is pretty much up to date
<rihardsk[m]> hi, is there a way to force runtime dependencies in a nix package? im trying to package a node.js app which calls out to python via require("child_process").spawn('python3', ['stuff']). i was hoping that it'd be enough to add python to the package's propagatedBuildInputs but it seems it's not the case - when i doo nix-store -q -tree for the packages store path there's no sight of python3 there
<Guest13> `fish: nix-env: command not found...`
<manveru> jgt: `nix run nixpkgs.nix-info -c nix-info` on both machines?
<andi-> rihardsk[m]: usually wrapProgram is used or that
<manveru> Guest13: maybe https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1512 helps
<{^_^}> nix#1512 (by cbarrett, 1 year ago, open): Installing doesnt work under fish shell
<jgt> manveru: I only have one machine. Should I paste the output of that command?
<manveru> jgt: sure
<jgt> manveru: system: "x86_64-darwin", multi-user?: yes, version: nix-env (Nix) 2.1.3, channels(jgt): "darwin, nixpkgs-19.09pre170739.1a95a36dbf1", channels(root): "nixpkgs-19.03pre157721.7d24cf8ea99", nixpkgs: /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixpkgs
<Guest13> manveru: looks good will update once i try it
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<manveru> so, yeah, different channels jgt :)
<manveru> make sure you update both
<jgt> I'm now running `nix-channel --update` which I assume updates all channels
<manveru> with sudo?
<jgt> without
<manveru> in your case, you need both
<jgt> I see
<Guest13> is the current version of the package manager 2.2.2?
<manveru> since you have a channel in both root and as jgt
<rihardsk[m]> andi: oh, this is exactly what i'm looking for, thanks
<manveru> Guest13: yeah
<jgt> manveru: I don't think that's intentional. I think I just set it up wrong because I'm a dummy.
<Guest13> noice
<rihardsk[m]> i meant andi- :)
<andi-> rihardsk[m]: I have highlights for both ;-)
<jgt> oh wow, now it's doing stuff. Thanks manveru!
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<Guest13> hmmm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #60635 → [19.03] virtualbox: 5.2.26 -> 5.2.28 → https://git.io/fjZBG
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<fendor> can I use nix-shell with a pinned version of nixpkgs?
<qyliss^work> nix-shell -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/$SHA.tar.gz
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<fendor> qyliss^work, thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #60521 → bitwarden_rs: fix cargoSha256 → https://git.io/fjZIp
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<genesis> is allowed to put a new python-module in a PR for update another python package ?
<genesis> really fast and short to review
<andi-> genesis: if it is a dependency of the update that should be fine
<genesis> yep, oki let do that
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60320 → wine{unstable,staging}: 4.6 -> 4.7 → https://git.io/fjGJd
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<andi-> ,locate llvm-objdump
<{^_^}> Found in packages: llvm, llvm_4, llvm_6, llvm_7, llvm_8, llvm_35, llvm_37, llvm_38, llvm_39, llvm-polly, emscriptenfastcomp, rustPlatform.rustcSrc
<andi-> rustcSrc o.O interesting
<gchristensen> O.o
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60639 → neovim-unwrapped: 0.3.4 -> 0.3.5 → https://git.io/fjZRu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bignaux opened pull request #60640 → photon: 1.0.7 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/fjZRz
<genesis> :)
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<zen_monk> openssl and tor are not in nix packages? how do i get them?
<qyliss^work> ,locate bin tor
<qyliss^work> ,locate bin openssl
<simpson> > [ openssl tor ]
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<{^_^}> [ <CODE> <CODE> ]
<{^_^}> Found in packages: tor
<{^_^}> Found in packages: openssl.bin, openssl_1_1.bin, libressl_2_7.bin, libressl_2_9.bin, netcat-openbsd.bin, openssl-chacha.bin
<simpson> zen_monk: What have you tried so far?
<zen_monk> simpson: i just checked nixos packages
<gchristensen> anyone want to patch whahtever needs to be patched to make a missing interpreter not error with the same thing as if the file being executed didn't exist?
<Taneb> zen_monk: https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html lists both openssl and tor
<clever> gchristensen: i think that would be a kernel level patch
<gchristensen> sure
<clever> gchristensen: and libc would also need to be extended to translate the error corectly
<clever> the libc in the parent process
<clever> so when execve returns a new error code, it gives a sane msg
<zen_monk> ok so if i add `openssl` and `tor` to `home.packages` will they install(i don't see them in: `nixos packages`)?
<clever> zen_monk: yes, but that wont run a tor node on its own
<qyliss^work> zen_monk: where are you looking that you don't see them?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60644 → nx-libs: 3.5.99.19 -> 3.5.99.20 → https://git.io/fjZ0g
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<zen_monk> clever: ok, is there links(documentation) for setting up openssl and tor with nix ?
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<zen_monk> Taneb: thanks
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<zen_monk> Taneb++
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<qyliss^work> zen_monk: they're sorted alphabetically. If you click through the pages you'll see it.
<qyliss^work> The search could certainly be better
<qyliss^work> But it is there
<zen_monk> qyliss^work: oh
<zen_monk> qyliss^work++
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<Ben_> I am having problems running nix in a GitLab CI server.
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<Ben_> It rebuilds all packages from scratch which is quite a lot (tex-live full).
<Ben_> It's an amd server. Could that matter?
<Taneb> I don't think AMD vs Intel should matter
<Ben_> Okay, thanks.
<Ben_> I just doesn't seem to use nix-cache at all.
<Ben_> Here's my .gitlab-ci.yml if that helps: https://pastebin.com/Tw6kF4jS
<simpson> Is your CI image configured to use the binary cache? Is networking to the cache enabled?
<simpson> Oh. Setting NIX_STORE_DIR will make existing binary caches useless.
<Ben_> Is there a way around that?
<Ben_> The thing is that I want to cache the store on the build server bewteen builds but populate it from the nix cache.
<symphorien> Ben_: is /nix writable ?
<adisbladis> Ben_: I've been using docker volumes for this purpose.
<simpson> Ben_: I don't know much about Gitlab, but on Travis, one simply goes for it and doesn't worry about redownloading packages into /nix/store.
<zen_monk> `services.weechat.enable = true;` , this code does not work when i place it in: `home.nix` ? will weechat work without this `code` or do i need to place it in: `configuration.nix` for weechat to work ?
<Ben_> I don't know about writing to /nix. I am using the nixos/nix docker container.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kmicklas opened pull request #60645 → Fix Android NDK for 19.03 → https://git.io/fjZ0F
<gchristensen> b
<gchristensen> oops
<adisbladis> Ben_: Are you using your own runners?
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<Ben_> Yep, I have my own runner.
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<adisbladis> Ben_: Ok, then I suggest going down the route of configuring /nix as a docker volume.
<adisbladis> There is https://gitlab.com/arianvp/nixos-gitlab-runner you can use (or do it manually)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dasJ opened pull request #60646 → nixos/nginx: Sandbox the service using systemd → https://git.io/fjZEf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « signing-party: 2.9 -> 2.10 (security, CVE-2019-11627) »: https://git.io/fjZEJ
<adisbladis> Ben_: You'll also want to pass through the nix-daemon socket
<gchristensen> I'd like to refer to a nix store path absolutely in an expression, like this: MYTHING = /nix/store/fr9k1x5m5m3r5866z76d8i60cfp9rbrw-bash; but when this gets made in to a derivation it is copied in to the store, and MYTHING becomes /nix/store/bsnl4z6drx3dz7f9g4y0my7f10s55sqa-fr9k1x5m5m3r5866z76d8i60cfp9rbrw-bash. is there a way for it to not be copied?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60627 → mediainfo-gui: 18.12 -> 19.04 → https://git.io/fjZ87
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZET
<Ben_> There is https://gitlab.com/arianvp/nixos-gitlab-runner you can use (or do it manually) -> Would that work on a non-nixos machine though?
<adisbladis> Ben_: Nope. I have a plain gitlab-runner config you can get and customise
<adisbladis> gchristensen: Wouldn't that be fixed by MYTHING being a string?
<Ben_> The config sounds awesome!
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<Ben_> Would setting volumes = ["/nix"] in the runners config work?
<gchristensen> adisbladis: yeah but also I want it to appear as an input source
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #60636 → mosquitto: 1.6 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/fjZBc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZEY
<adisbladis> Ben_: http://ix.io/1HKh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #60647 → [19.03] Security backport for signing-party → https://git.io/fjZEO
<Ben_> Thanks a lot!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @asymmetric opened pull request #60648 → nixos/modules/networking/wg-quick Add wg-quick options support → https://git.io/fjZE3
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<FRidh> think you'll need ot consider it as a fixed-output derivation and provide a hash
<gchristensen> :/ hrm
<gchristensen> something strange is going on here, I don't understand.
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<aminechikhaoui> gchristensen aren't you looking for builtins.storePath ?
<gchristensen> I think I am..!
<gchristensen> you are the best!
<aanderse-work> well it looks like declarative cron doesn't work :\ found that out the hard way :(
<gchristensen> I haven't used cron since switching to nixos
<gchristensen> systemd timers have replaced it for me
<aanderse-work> which is exactly why it doesn't work :p
<aanderse-work> no one in nixos uses cron!
<aanderse-work> but some of us work places where people don't like change T_T
<gchristensen> I'm not sure when I'd want to use cron over systemd timers
<aanderse-work> ha ha ha
<aanderse-work> using nixops i have a cron job setup in services.cron.systemCronJobs
<aanderse-work> something very simple
<aanderse-work> ""* * * * * root cd /opt && ls -ltr && echo foobar"
<aanderse-work> few random commands to demonstrate
<aanderse-work> i deploy
<aanderse-work> cron is not reloaded
<aanderse-work> cron job executes once....
<aanderse-work> cron is reloaded
<aanderse-work> so the second time it executes the changes are picked up
<gchristensen> not to be insulting, but did you services.cron.enable = true?
<gchristensen> ahk
<aanderse-work> lol, yes, but that is a fair question :)
<Taneb> ...I'm using cron on NixOS
<aanderse-work> Taneb: declarative?
<aanderse-work> nixops also has nice output to say what services are start, stop, reload, restart
<aanderse-work> cron is never mentioned when i deploy after a change to my declarative cron
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<aanderse-work> since i'm running the job every minute the second time it fires no problem
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<manveru> hmm
<Taneb> aanderse-work: yes
<aanderse-work> but it took me some head scratching to figure out why my cron job which only executed once every 20 days wasn't working
<manveru> i guess the unit needs some love then
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<aanderse-work> i believe simply adding reloadIfChanged = true; is enough to fix
<manveru> jup
<aanderse-work> gonna test and then fix
<aanderse-work> manveru: thanks for confirmation :)
<manveru> atm it only restarts when you change timezone :P
<aanderse-work> yeah well thats a full restart
<manveru> i don't think it knows how to reload either
<manveru> hmm
<aanderse-work> yeah i see a few things that could use some care in here
<manveru> "Additionally, cron checks each minute to see if its spool directory's modtime (or the modtime on /etc/crontab) has changed,"
<manveru> i don't think that'll work...
<aanderse-work> only the reloadIfChaged probably needs a backport
<aanderse-work> so starting with that
<manveru> cool :)
<manveru> sorry, haven't used cron in ages either
<aanderse-work> mhm mhm
<aanderse-work> fair
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed 3 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjZE6
<manveru> at work we actually use a ruby cron daemon :P
<MichaelRaskin> I stopped using cron later than I stopped using NixOS mainline
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<aanderse-work> i wanted to make this a systemd service... but i've already pushed enough change on the guys at work over the past 6 months with the introduction of nixops :p
<manveru> well, nothing wrong with cron if it works :P
<manveru> it was just a PITA to get nix to build a docker image that runs cron, so i rewrote that
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #60645 → Fix Android NDK for 19.03 → https://git.io/fjZ0F
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed 7 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjZEP
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<Taneb> aanderse-work: keep the momentum goign!
<manveru> aanderse-work++
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<zen_monk> i want to setup protonvpn, would this be hard to do with nixos?
<gchristensen> openvpn is always hard
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<zen_monk> by openvpn did you mean protonvpn?
<gchristensen> oops ... I am too scarred by openvpn to have read protovpn
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<zen_monk> i'll give it a try this afternoon, i got to finish setting up weechat first
<averell> technically they use openvpn, i think you can even download a set of config files for each site
<zen_monk> oh
<gchristensen> sorry, it shouldn't be a problem -- if you were setting up openvpn from scratch my comments would have applied
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60628 → texlive.bin.core-big: fix build → https://git.io/fjZ8N
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<zen_monk> ok, sounds good i'll give it a try this afternoon
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #60650 → nixos/cron: force restart when the declarative crontab has changed → https://git.io/fjZuO
<MichaelRaskin> What's so bad about openvpn?
<gchristensen> I didn't call it bad! :)
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<lordcirth__> openvpn is not the easiest to configure, and not the fastest, either. But it works fine and is supported by tons of things
<MichaelRaskin> You install easyrsa from Nixpkgs…
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<lordcirth__> MichaelRaskin, the certs are not the only part of configuring openvpn
<nh2> Can somebody with permissions start an OSX build for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/54398 ?
<{^_^}> #54398 (by nh2, 14 weeks ago, open): gstreamer-1.16.0
<MichaelRaskin> I think my config is ~ 30 lines
<MichaelRaskin> More specifically, wc -l thinks it is exactly 30 lines
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<adisbladis> nh2: Sure, done.
<nh2> adisbladis: thanks!
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<gchristensen> 6
<gchristensen> (oops)
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<nh2> `libnice/default.nix:57 is not supported on ‘x86_64-apple-darwin’, refusing to evaluate`
<nh2> hmm, it's not evaluating:
<nh2> Did this work before? I didn't add the libnice dependency
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « nx-libs: 3.5.99.19 -> 3.5.99.20 »: https://git.io/fjZuw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60590 → buck: fix build → https://git.io/fjZZM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZur
<gchristensen> must be a transitive dependencie, nh2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #60596 → libmbim: 1.18.0 -> 1.18.2 → https://git.io/fjZnc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @r-ryantm to staging « libmbim: 1.18.0 -> 1.18.2 »: https://git.io/fjZuK
<gchristensen> because yeah, gstreamer does currently build for darwin -- https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/gstreamer.x86_64-darwin
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<davlum> hullo
<davlum> I'm searching for some aid. I would like to use this version of keepassx https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/misc/keepassx/community.nix
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<davlum> instead of the default
<nh2> gchristensen: how to read that? The most recent entry has a green tick
<gchristensen> your changes must have introduced libnice via a transitive dependency
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<gchristensen> or maybe made libnice non-darwin by mistake
<nh2> gchristensen: ah sorry, I misread what you wrote as "does not build". But what you've linked doesn't seem to be the right gstreamer version, that's gstreamer-0.10, not the 1.* series
<genesis> i try to fix my .travis.yml to make it build my default.nix but without modify it from a nixpkgs version, would it be possible ?
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<nh2> hmm `The server at hydra.nixos.org is taking too long to respond`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #60615 → electron-cash: 3.3.6 -> 4.0.2 → https://git.io/fjZlU
<genesis> something like : script: nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; magick2cpc'
<gchristensen> nh2:ah, right, then maybe it doesn't build -- you'd have to find the jobset for hydra and see if it does
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<immae> genesis: can you explain a bit more what you’re trying to do? You have a default.nix in your repo, and you want to build some derivation in it via travis, but you cannot use nix-build for that because (???)
<nh2> davlum: all-packages.nix has: `keepassxc = libsForQt5.callPackage ../applications/misc/keepassx/community.nix { };` so you can try `nix-env -i keepassxc`
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<genesis> immae : i would if i put with import <nixpkgs>{}; as explain here https://github.com/kamilchm/go2nix/issues/39#issuecomment-256004701 but i wonder if i could modify the .travis.yml instead, to keep this file same as in nixpkgs
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<genesis> but don't find some examples of that way
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<nh2> gchristensen: so https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-19.03/nixpkgs.gst_all_1.gstreamer.x86_64-linux exists but replacing the last part by `-darwin` shows up no results -- does that mean that it doesn't currently work on Darwin? What's a good way to find out if it ever did?
<immae> genesis: oh, you have a default.nix of the form `{ nixpkgs }: (rest of it)`, is that it?
<gchristensen> seems likely, nh2
<genesis> yes
<immae> if so, you can do something like nix-build -E 'import ./. { nixpkgs = import <nixpkgs> {}; }'
<nh2> how can I simulate evaluating for darwin so that I can iterate on it?
<nh2> (I'm not sure I want to do that right now but could do it if it's quick to fix)
<gchristensen> nix-instantiate . -A hello --system x86_64-darwin
<genesis> immae error: anonymous function at /home/genesis/devel/Magick2CPC/default.nix:1:1 called without required argument 'stdenv', at (string):1:1 , same pb
<nh2> gchristensen: thanks!
<immae> if so, you can do something like nix-build -E 'import ./. { nixpkgs = import <nixpkgs> {}; }'. If it’s things from nixpkgs (sort of like what you can find in pkgs/ in nixpkgs), you should use instead 'nix-build -E callPackage ./. {}'
<immae> oups my message did something strange
<immae> genesis: if you have other arguments in your default.nix you need to provide them all. If it’s things from nixpkgs (sort of like what you can find in pkgs/ in nixpkgs), you should use instead 'nix-build -E callPackage ./. {}'
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<ar> ,locate bin readelf
<{^_^}> Found in packages: binutils-unwrapped
<immae> genesis: sorry, incomplete again: nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; callPackage ./. {}'
<genesis> here we are :)
<immae> this will provide "automatically" every argument it can provide to the default.nix
<genesis> thanks a lot immae i'll try that
<immae> you’re welcome
<genesis> i resucite a 10 years old project ;)
<nh2> gchristensen: ah, I think my mistake is to try evaluate `gst_all_1`. Some of the subpackages are not supported on darwin. So my ofborg invocation probably does not make sense. What do I have to call to tell it to only build those packages from it that are supposed to work ok darwin / the respective platforms?
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<genesis> immae works perfectly on travis
<immae> cool
<immae> good luck with your project resurrection then ;)
<genesis> immae++
<{^_^}> immae's karma got increased to 4
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<gchristensen> nh2: ofborg can't do that right now
<nh2> gchristensen: so I should instead tell it to build the individual packages?
<gchristensen> yeah
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<gchristensen> you can do it all as one command and it'll partition them based on evaluability
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZzs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #60643 → pythonPackages.pythonocc-core: init at 0.18.1 → https://git.io/fjZ0Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60608 → log4cplus: 2.0.3 -> 2.0.4 → https://git.io/fjZC1
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<genesis> immae : drawback is that it's fetching with revision, instead of build current directory of course
<immae> genesis: if I may suggest, you’re "stuck" here with whatever travis defines as "<nixpkgs>", it can be an unstable version, or an outdated one, etc (maybe you can configure it in your travis account, I have no idea). I don’t know the conventionnal way it is done on travis, but you have ways to force the nixpkgs version that you like if you need it:
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 3 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjZzZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #58611 → gnutls: respect NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE, remove 3.5.10 on darwin → https://git.io/fjkwR
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<genesis> immae : but the idea was to compiled the git tip, whatever, i think it's not possible to not write a special nix file for that instead use the nixpkgs in his project repository
<genesis> nix-build will not ignore fetchFromGitHub ...
<immae> ah if you want to build the tip of the branch I guess you have to checkout before building, I don’t know how to do that (it’s travis configuration here)
<genesis> travis checkout for you, perharps i could trick it removing fetch instruction, i donno.
<genesis> (tricks nix-build)
<immae> I cannot help you with travis, sorry :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60652 → opencascade-occt: 7.3.0p2 -> 7.3.0p3 → https://git.io/fjZza
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<emilsp> ,help
<{^_^}> Use `,` to list all commands, `,foo = Foo!` to define foo as "Foo!", `,foo =` to undefine it, `,foo` to output "Foo!", `,foo somebody` to send "Foo!" to the nick somebody
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<pie_> help xD
<pie_> (lib.traceValSeqFn (v: "debugopts: ${v}" v) (defaultOpts.debug // debug))
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<pie_> cannot coerce set to string
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<gchristensen> you could try ${builtins.toJSON v}
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<pie_> oh, thats an idea
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<pie_> thanks
<pie_> feels kind of unintuitive but it makes sense
<gchristensen> another better option is to not stringify v
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<pie_> I want to prepend a string to it though so its unavoidable?
<gchristensen> you could do two traces
<pie_> eh, i guess i could compose two traces
<pie_> (?)
<gchristensen> (builtins.trace "debugopts:" v)
<pie_> doesnt that just print "debugopts:"
<pie_> huh
<pie_> meh, adds an extraneous newline but ok, that works different than i thought it did
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<pie_> ill keep that around for later
<gchristensen> (lib.traceValSeqFn (v: (builtins.trace "debugopts:" v) (defaultOpts.debug // debug)) <- builtins.trace will print debug.opts:, and then presumably lib.traceValSeqFn will print the v
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<pie_> i dont suppose theres a pretty printed version of tojson? :p
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<clever> pie_: pipe it thru jq?
<clever> use IFD to write it to a file, then pipe it thru jq, and readfile it back in, then trace that!!!
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<pie_> clever, eh, then i just wont do it probably, i figured it might be nice to just dump some extra debug info because why not, but that sounds a bit heavy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @burke closed pull request #60439 → [wip] Bump most apple-source-releases to macOS 10.14.1 → https://git.io/fjGQi
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<infinisil> I vote we should change builtins.trace to support arbitrary values, and it should make a good effort to convert it to a string by default
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<gchristensen> it does
<pie_> hm topretty doesnt add indentation, ah well :p
<gchristensen> the problem here was from trying to stringify it by hand
<pie_> whelp, guess I have a bug somewhere https://bpaste.net/show/f13ad9aa51ab i dont think that should be evaluated that many times
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60212 → gitAndTools.gita: 0.8.2 -> 0.9.2 → https://git.io/fjsB1
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<pbb> does anyone here use the initrd-ssh module?
* tilpner does
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<thefloweringash> I even use it in an 802.1x environment!
<pbb> nice
<pbb> how do you get the host keys in the initrd?
<pbb> my host keys are not copied
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<thefloweringash> if you set boot.initrd.network.ssh.hostECDSAKey, then the initrd-ssh module will configure them as boot.initrd.secrets
<thefloweringash> but when I set this up, grub didn't support initrd secrets, so I made my own initrd with the keys in and specified it in boot.loader.grub.extraInitrd
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<nh2> jtojnar: look slike we're finding all upstream gstreamer bugs: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/54398#discussion_r280148002
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<gchristensen> interesting :) what is the deal with -good -bad plugins?
<jtojnar> gchristensen: licenses and implementation quality
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<pbb> thefloweringash: your configuration is not public by chance?
<infinisil> gchristensen: Oh it really does, why did I not know that
<infinisil> (regarding builtins.trace)
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<gchristensen> nix-repl> builtins.trace { foo = "bar"; } "hi"
<gchristensen> trace: { foo = "bar"; }
<gchristensen> "hi"
<pbb> I am using systemd-boot, but I guess it doesn't support initrd secrets either? I can not see any part in initrd-ssh.nix that would touch boot.initrd.secrets. It should land in extra-utils?
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<thefloweringash> looks like systemd supports initrd secrets
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<{^_^}> [nix-pills] @globin merged pull request #112 → 08: Fix display of darwin-specific code → https://git.io/fjZCO
<{^_^}> [nix-pills] @globin pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZ2J
<pbb> thanks thefloweringash, I was looking at a fork of nixpkgs m)
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<pbb> do I get this right? I can not see the hostkey files in the initrd image, but they are somehow in there?
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<emilsp> is it possible to have a setup where I can ssh into a machine to unlock it's root partition on boot that doesn't require zfs ?
<thefloweringash> initrds can be composed by cacatenation, and the secrets are added this way. what are you using to inspect the contents?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #60659 → thin-provisioning-tools: fix patch url → https://git.io/fjZ20
<pbb> gzip -d initrd.efi; cpio -i < initrd.efi
<emilsp> and what's the status of encryption with zfs - is luks still my best option ?
<pbb> seems like the networking in initrd did not work as expected, I just rebooted to the new installation with networking and sshd in initrd, but it doesn't renew the lease
<pbb> will have to wait until someone gets there, lost remote access now
<thefloweringash> pbb: after some experimentation, gzip seems to extract cacatenated files, but cpio only sees the first archive
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<pbb> that explains why I could not see the files. I now assume they are there, but with dead networking it will not help
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<genesis> ,locate optparse.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: swiProlog, pythonDocs.html.python27
<AlexRice[m]> does anyone use ghcjs and know if there is a solution round #47437
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/47437 (by tg-x, 30 weeks ago, closed): haskell.packages.ghcjs.doctest build failure
<ajs124> emilsp, there is zfs native encryption, but as far as I remember, not in any stable release.
<{^_^}> [nixops] @asymmetric opened pull request #1140 → nixos-infect: update channel to 19.03 → https://git.io/fjZ27
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #60183 → testssl: 2.9.5-7 -> 3.0rc5 → https://git.io/fjsmr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60380 → rambox-pro: init at 1.1.2 → https://git.io/fjG4b
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed commit from @cawilliamson to master « rambox-pro: init at 1.1.2 (#60380) »: https://git.io/fjZ2F
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #60561 → wasmtime: fix hash → https://git.io/fjZ3B
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<jtojnar> nh2++
<{^_^}> nh2's karma got increased to 9
<gchristensen> nh2++
<{^_^}> nh2's karma got increased to 10
<gchristensen> jtojnar++
<{^_^}> jtojnar's karma got increased to 11
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alexarice opened pull request #60660 → Init: Variant Ant gtk themes 1.3.0 → https://git.io/fjZaY
<pie_> wow
<pie_> looks like i found some weird file path bug in something
<pie_> either that or the directory needs to be named in a specific way
<gchristensen> what's up?
<pie_> and i was just trying to make it look nicer before i figured out the real problem
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<pie_> its an app thing not a nix thing, idk i had to rename a symlink from ${plugin} to ${nameOf plugin} where nameOf means /wehatever/hash-name -> name
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<pie_> err, i was running baseNameOf on it in both cases i mean
<pie_> integration tests are important kids
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<zen_monk> i finally setup sasl for weechat
<zen_monk> hello
<zen_monk> is sasl fine or should i setup: vpn and tor as well?
<gchristensen> it depends on what you're trying to do, but sasl should be just fine
<zen_monk> cool, is there a way to switch between channels fast ? i have autojoin setup so three channels are loaded automatically when i boot weechat
<zen_monk> in weechat ?
<gchristensen> you will probably find better support in #weechaht :)
<gchristensen> #weechat *
<zen_monk> ok
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed to master « CODEOWNERS: Change me from all NixOS modules to just new ones »: https://git.io/fjZau
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<infinisil> It's about time ^^
<dftxbs3e> hi, the nixos idea looks really nice, what would it take to port it to powerpc64le?
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<lordcirth__> dftxbs3e, well, the Linux kernel runs on it, so there's hope. Porting a distro is a lot of work, though.
<gchristensen> dftxbs3e: interesting, what would you run which is ppc64le?
<dftxbs3e> I have a Talos II Workstation
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60283 → mopidy-iris: 3.36.0 -> 3.37.0 → https://git.io/fjs5k
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<gchristensen> is it for a home system, or like a bigger environment?
<dftxbs3e> I'm at home but it's a quite big system aha
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<dftxbs3e> I run lots of stuff on it, I plan to move my machine to a place where it'll run VMs and folks there have great interest in Guix/Nix kind of systems
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<lordcirth__> dftxbs3e, ooh, the Talos systems seem pretty cool
<dftxbs3e> So eventually a shared machine where several people have various VMs on it
<dftxbs3e> and they would really like to run nixOS on it
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<dftxbs3e> lordcirth__: thanks : )
<gchristensen> cool
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<lordcirth__> If you can get nix packages for the bare minimum required to get a shell, you might attract some helpers
<dftxbs3e> lordcirth__: alright, getting to work : - )
<infinisil> What work is there to do for porting NixOS though? I'd imagine just fixing packages to build on that arch, but I don't think there's anything NixOS specific
<infinisil> s/arch/platform
<dftxbs3e> most important stuff has powerpc64le support by now
<dftxbs3e> I imagine just boot stuff
<dftxbs3e> for iso
<infinisil> As long as grub and such compile, I don't see what could cause problems. But I'm not a very crossy guy in that sense, so maybe I'm missing something
<dftxbs3e> yes I think it's not that much work either
<dftxbs3e> it has a source based mode right?
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* infinisil has no idea what that is
<gchristensen> I'd love to get NixOS running on POWER etc.
<dftxbs3e> infinisil: it means that the package manager isnt just downloading binaries, it compiles from source
<dftxbs3e> I think that might get nix running out of the box
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thiagokokada opened pull request #60661 → misc: Add bemenu package → https://git.io/fjZaQ
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<__monty__> dftxbs3e: Yep, it only downloads binaries if they're in the cache.
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<dftxbs3e> nope it didnt because it downloads binaries directly
<dftxbs3e> ill build
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<__monty__> You can disable the cache.
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<myme> Howdy! I've enabled gnupg.agent (+ssh) and it's working great in my shell (konsole+zsh). However, it seems like Emacs (started directly from KDE) isn't able to find the agent (there's no SSH_AUTH_SOCK in env). Running emacs from the shell works though.
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<myme> I thought I'd ask if that's something "familiar" before I start digging some more.
<tilpner> myme: Did you restart KDE after enabling that?
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<tilpner> (Logout and login again?)
<myme> tilpner: I've booted several times, yes. This is an annoying "papercut" I've been having over the course of some weeks.
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<myme> It's the same if I launch emacs through Plasma's launcher, or rofi. I'm using I3 as my window manager though (might be relevant).
<nyanloutre[m]> hello, I frequently see arguments in favor of not using static uid/gid for services. Would it be advisable to cleanup services that don't need it ?
<tilpner> What are arguments in favor of individually allocated ids?
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<zen_monk> i just installed the weechat emacs pkg in home.nix, where is the path to weechat.el ? i cannot find it ?
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<{^_^}> #56254 (by shosti, 9 weeks ago, merged): nixos/gnupg: set SSH_AUTH_SOCK in non-interactive settings
<myme> infinisil: Hmm, that sounds quite promising.
<myme> Thanks!
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<infinisil> myme: That change is in stable by now, so updating your channel should get you that, let me know if it worked
<myme> infinisil: I'll do it immediately. Brb, hopefully...
<infinisil> :)
<zen_monk> where is: `weechat.el` ? , i need it for instructions here: https://github.com/the-kenny/weechat.el
<zen_monk> Download this directory to your system and add it to the load-path:
<zen_monk> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "path/to/weechat.el/"))
<zen_monk>
<zen_monk> Load weechat.el
<zen_monk> (require 'weechat)
<zen_monk>
<myme> infinisil: Worked beyond my *wildest* expectations! ;-)
<myme> Thanks a bunch.
<infinisil> Noice
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<infinisil> zen_monk: What are you using to configure your emacs packages?
<zen_monk> once i find that path then i can copy and paste the code into ~/.emacs , i just don't knom where nixos installed `emacs.el`, my goal is to get weechat to run within emacs.
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<infinisil> zen_monk: So this is your first time using emacs?
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<zen_monk> infinisil: i installed and configured my emacs packages in home.nix, i don't knom where nixos installed weechat.el, i need the path for it ?
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<infinisil> zen_monk: So home-manager?
<zen_monk> yes
<infinisil> zen_monk: How does your home.nix look like? How did you include other packages?
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<infinisil> I mean, you can get the path to .el files through pkgs.emacsPackagesNg.weechat
<infinisil> But really, weechat should be installable like any other package
<zen_monk> infinisil: hastebin.com is not working, is there a gitlab link to pastebin ? i just created a gitlab account yesterday ?
<dftxbs3e> any ideas? "doc/manual/local.mk:24: recipe for target 'doc/manual/manual.xmli' failed"
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<zen_monk> infinisil: https://pastebin.com/A0hzAGjT
<qyliss> zen_monk: there are plenty of online pastebin services
<infinisil> ,paste zen_monk
<{^_^}> zen_monk: Use a website such as [ https://gist.github.com/ http://ix.io/ https://hastebin.com/ https://paste.ee/ ] or similar services to share anything that's longer than a couple lines.
<dftxbs3e> (btw the error is when building nix)
<infinisil> (pastebin is a bit hated by a lot of people fyi)
<zen_monk> ok pastebin has too much crap, i'll use gist
<infinisil> zen_monk: So what's exactly the problem? You added weechat to emacs packages, can you not load it or?
<dftxbs3e> okay I'm missing libxml2-utlis
<pie_> aszlig, o/ Profpatsch said I should ask you to review my first proper PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/60664/files
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<dftxbs3e> o.O
<dftxbs3e> is that normal?
<dftxbs3e> I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.org/xml/5.0/rng/docbook.rng
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<dftxbs3e> xml external entities are enabled during build process
<dftxbs3e> under HTTP
<dftxbs3e> danger
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<infinisil> zen_monk: I asked you something
<qyliss> zen_monk: can’t you just skip the first line?
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<martyet-o> umm, how is it possible to declare error log path for nginx?
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<dftxbs3e> woohoo, nix is building on powerpc64le
<martyet-o> when i declare it in configuration.nix as "error_log = "/var/log/error.log";" on one line, its not working
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<qyliss> martyet-o: services.nginx.logError
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<martyet-o> qyliss: where i can find these strings? like services.nginx.<anything> ?
<dftxbs3e> lordcirth__: alright so I got nix built, what do I do now?
<dftxbs3e> its built and works
<martyet-o> some kind of manual?
<dftxbs3e> under Ubuntu Bionic for ppc64le
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<zen_monk> infinisil: well I think i just need the path to `weechat.el`, do i need to add what you said earlier: infinisil I mean, you can get the path to .el files through pkgs.emacsPackagesNg.weechat
<martyet-o> omg, thanks.. that saves me :) qyliss
<lordcirth__> dftxbs3e, I would modify the nixpkg for the linux kernel and build that.
<infinisil> zen_monk: Yes I know and yes I know, try just adding (require 'weechat) to your emacs init
<AlexRice[m]> dftxbs3e: were you trying to build nixos?
<infinisil> zen_monk: As qyliss suggested, you don't need to have the path
<lordcirth__> AlexRice[m], he's trying to get nixos running on his powerpc64le Talos workstation
<zen_monk> infinisil: ok, lets see if it works
<infinisil> And who put paste.ee in that ,paste list, it needs javascript to do syntax highlighting and it doesn't even have syntax highlighting for nix!
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<zen_monk> infinisil: it's not automating anything, do i have to do everything manually ?
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<zen_monk> :(
<samueldr> sorry infinisil, looks like it was me, I was the one to add a mix of services instead of suggesting a specific one
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<dftxbs3e> AlexRice[m]: yup, just as they said. lordcirth__: Alright, doing this now!
<samueldr> (IIRC I looked at a list of paste services used here but didn't vet them much :/)
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<zen_monk> those instructions suck
<infinisil> zen_monk: Maybe weechat.el isn't the right thing for you then
<infinisil> samueldr: Hehe no problem, it seems hard to find decent paste services for some reason
<samueldr> definitely is, and wanted to show a mix of misc services to suggest we don't do any favoritism
<zen_monk> nope, i give up, maybe ill try again later when i have more time
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<zen_monk> later guys
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<infinisil> samueldr: For some reason hastebin doesn't let me save a gist :/
<infinisil> s/gist/haste
<samueldr> well, <del>gists are on github</del>
<infinisil> :P
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<infinisil> samueldr: Does it work for you right now?
<samueldr> didn't check
<manveru> does the world need more pastebins?
<infinisil> manveru: More *good* pastebins!
<samueldr> can't seem to write anything in hastebin
<infinisil> I can write stuff in hastebin, but not save it
<infinisil> Oh well
<samueldr> I would show favoritism towards github's gists, but anonymous use is probably a nice feature that it doesn't have
<infinisil> gist does have anonymous gists though, right?
<qyliss> I was going to suggest paste.sr.ht, but same issue
<zeta> damn hastebin
<qyliss> Not any more
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<qyliss> People were abusing it
<infinisil> Oh I see
<qyliss> Debian/Ubuntu/etc all have their own pastebind
<qyliss> Maybe we need the same :P
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<infinisil> http://ix.io works I guess, but it's not https, and it clears your pastes over time
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<gchristensen> and you can accidentaly send secrets by mistake
<infinisil> qyliss: There once was one at http://nixpaste.lbr.uno/
<manveru> https://ghostbin.com/ was nice... but apparently they die soon :(
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<samueldr> one of the annoying things with owning a pastebin, is that they're often used for "nefarious" purposes
<manveru> i like that irccloud has a pastebin built-in, but that's not for normal users either
<samueldr> most likely the reason behind gists dropping anonymous usage
<qyliss> That’s what they said iirc
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<infinisil> manveru: Matrix has built in pastebins too I think
<manveru> jup
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<manveru> still think we should move more stuff to matrix :)
<infinisil> How about using IPFS, and have a couple Nix people pin every IPFS paste that gets posted here :P
<samueldr> you write a nixos module for that :3
<infinisil> I guess you'd need some web frontend too, so ehhh
<infinisil> To make it be used at all
<manveru> don't see how that makes things simpler...
<gchristensen> then we have a nicely distributed problem of nefarious users :P
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<manveru> maybe a paste-bot that hands out paste urls that you can write in? :)
<infinisil> manveru: Well it would solve the anonymity problem somewhat, and solve the "we won't allow you to post silly things" thing as well
<samueldr> the trick is to do it right the first time, no need to pastebin your issues (/me gets out)
<infinisil> People pinning the IPFS content could decide what they want to keep or not
<qyliss> I’ve used https://bin.disroot.org/, but it needs js because it’s client-side encrypted
<infinisil> manveru: And because IPFS is content-addressed, you know you get what the other user posted
<infinisil> I think that's actually a pretty neat use for IPFS
<manveru> https://hardbin.com there you go
<simpson> infinisil: These are all ideas about content-addressed storage in general; be careful not to mistake IPFS with the designs that IPFS enables.
<infinisil> manveru: Hehe neat
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<manveru> but no syntax highlighting :(
<infinisil> Yeah darn
<infinisil> manveru: And you need javascript which is meh
<infinisil> ANd you can't curl it directly
<kalbasit> hardbin: The world's most secure encrypted pastebin, guaranteed * (* this is not a guarantee)
<kalbasit> lol
<manveru> i'd love to use IPFS, but last time i tried it, it started scanning our whole company network and the admins kicked me thinking it's some malware :P
<infinisil> haha
<infinisil> manveru: Ah, that would be `services.ipfs.localDiscovery` you'd have to turn off
<manveru> thanks for the info :)
<infinisil> > option "services.ipfs.localDiscovery"
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<infinisil> Any second now
<{^_^}> "Whether to enable local discovery for the ipfs daemon.\n This will allow ipfs to scan ports on your local network. Some hosting services will ban you if you do this.\n"
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<manveru> is that even good for something?
<manveru> just faster to find peers i guess
<infinisil> And I think it probably plays a big role to speed up networking. Because if two peers don't know about each other when they're really right next to each other, that would be very wasteful
<infinisil> Oh, I guess routing would still find them though
<infinisil> Eh, not sure
<manveru> i used it back in 2017 before that option was there
<infinisil> Probably just faster peer discovery yeah
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<pbb> Hi, the "tzinfo-1.2.5" gem fails to build with ruby 2.6. After commenting out the customization in gem-configs it builds, but uses /usr/share/zoneinfo. Any ideas?
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<camsbury> Currently working with a bunch of python package overlays - upgrading sqlalchemy via `overlays`, only to find that I have to rebuild `pandas` and `numpy`, which depend on `sqlalchemy`, as a result. Is there a way to forego lower level dependencies having such a big impact?
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<camsbury> Looking for something like an `overrideBuildInputs`, for which I could just put the old version in
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<__monty__> camsbury: You could put the overridden attributes in a seperate attrset. That way you have to specify when you want to depend on them.
<pie_> camsbury, if i understand correctly, no not really, thats the whole paradigm. you could try having two versions, one with the overlay, one not, and then take packages from the appropriate place
<pie_> right, what __monty__ said
<pie_> camsbury, hopefully you wont get any version mismatches
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<pie_> (depends on the library i guess)
<camsbury> thanks guys
<camsbury> yeah I guess the real problem I want to solve is rebuilding the world whenever *my library* depends on a newer version of a thing
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<infinisil> camsbury: You can do that with `self: super: { my-package = super.my-package.override { thing = self.thing_different_version; }; }`
<zeta> where is `nginx` in nixos manual, i can't seem to find it ?
<camsbury> ah great right
<infinisil> Or `self: super: { my-package = super.my-package.override { thing = self.thing.overrideAttrs (old: { version = ...; src = ...; }); }; }`
<camsbury> so my overlays can apply to the package I'm building as well
<camsbury> cool
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<pie_> probably nicer to add the self.thing_differentversion in the self: super: {...; ,,,}
<pie_> camsbury, see diagram https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Overlays
<infinisil> zeta: It doesn't have a section, but you still have the docs in the nixos options
<zeta> infinisil: oh, thanks
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<gchristensen> is burke on IRC?
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<pbb> it fails with ruby 2.6
<manveru> hmm
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<manveru> what happens if you don't use this config?
<pbb> with dontBuild=true and no preBuild it compiles fine, but I'm not sure if it will work as expected
<manveru> i don't remember why i did this... or what it even means :P
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<pbb> okay, I guess I'll just override it to {} for my ruby 2.6 build then
<manveru> i think you can make it optional if that helps
<pbb> I'm not sure if I understand the whole rubygems system yet. Does rubygems.org serve binaries / built versions?
<manveru> no
<pbb> so what does "dontBuild" do exactly then?
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<nand0p> infinisil: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/55422 should be ready to go. i addressed all comments as best i could. thanks!
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<pbb> ooh it's literally from mkDerivation
<pbb> so it just skips the phase
<pbb> too obvious :D
<manveru> :P
<manveru> i think usually it runs `gem build`
<pbb> what is the difference betwen gem install and gem build?
<zeta> Cannot send to nick/channel, i already setup my nick, why am i getting this error ?
<manveru> gem install will copy it to the gempath
<manveru> and also build it
<manveru> while gem build makes a gem from a project
<infinisil> nand0p: In line 7, you can just write `poolUrl = escapeShellArg "stratum1...";` instead
<pbb> so gem install takes a .gem file as input, while gem build takes a project folder as input?
<manveru> gem build takes a gemspec
<manveru> but yeah
<pbb> ok thanks a lot :-)
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<infinisil> nand0p: Looks good to merge after that
<nand0p> infinisil: ok thanks.... will do this asap
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<genesis> ,locate nix_run_setup
<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
<gchristensen> never heard of that ,what is that?
<camsbury> infinisil: still a bit confused I guess... using a `shell.nix` for a python project, where I am using the python packages I need in `buildInputs`
<camsbury> those are what become available to me when I `nix-shell`, and so I tried to just add the new version of the package to the list of `buildInputs`, but it still isn't working out. Any kind of overlay has me thinking it would still be injected in the others?
<camsbury> I guess they are available because I'm using `mkDerivation` with `env = buildEnv { name = name; paths = buildInputs; };`
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<clever> camsbury: do `echo $env` inside the shell?
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<camsbury> just gives the name of the derivation
<nand0p> infinisil: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/55422 ok `poolUrl` should be fixed up.
<{^_^}> #55422 (by nand0p, 11 weeks ago, open): ethminer: init at 0.18.0-rc.0
<nand0p> did a full rebuild to make sure :)
<clever> camsbury: the stdenv doesnt know what to do with env = ...; so it just becomes an env variable
<camsbury> ah okay
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<camsbury> maybe its supposed to have a .env
<clever> camsbury: you likely want to just directly give mkDerivation the buildInputs list, and ignore buildEnv
<camsbury> cool will try that
<camsbury> thanks
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<Rusty1> sudo apt-get -f install
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<Rusty1> oops
<dftxbs3e> lordcirth__: seems what I was doing wasnt sufficient, but then I saw nix already had support for ppc64le
<dftxbs3e> so how do you think I can run a nix-shell with the changes?
<{^_^}> #45340 (by CrystalGamma, 36 weeks ago, merged): [RFC] ppc64le enablement
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #60673 → [18.09] thin-provisioning-tools: fix patch url → https://git.io/fjZry
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed 2 commits to release-18.09: https://git.io/fjZop
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<colemickens> cmacrae ping, yes, I have something that will build chromium+ozone and "works"
<dftxbs3e> I really don't understand how nix works at all.
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<colemickens> haven't touched it in a while though, I've been waiting for at least a certain PR to land in chromium before bothering again
<colemickens> frankly, it wasn't really practically usable at all ~4-6 weeks ago
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @leotaku opened pull request #60681 → nixos/geoclue2: restructure module made by worldofpeace → https://git.io/fjZKC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c opened pull request #60682 → manual: rename to users and contributors manual, add some user notes … → https://git.io/fjZK4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill merged pull request #60671 → tetra-gtk-theme: 201903 -> 201905 → https://git.io/fjZwp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjZK0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #60570 → binutils: add gettext → https://git.io/fjZs4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60683 → papirus-icon-theme: 20190331 -> 20190501 → https://git.io/fjZKz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #60685 → bubblewrap: 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3 → https://git.io/fjZKw
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ecf59492c75 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #60401 → mate.mate-control-center: look up keyboard shortcuts in system data dirs → https://git.io/fjGg4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60686 → orc: 0.4.28 -> 0.4.29 → https://git.io/fjZKj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais merged pull request #60394 → ruby: rubygems 2.7.7 -> 3.0.3 → https://git.io/fjGEA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais pushed 3 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjZ6L
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #60688 → osinfo-db: 20190301 -> 20190319 → https://git.io/fjZ6Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #55422 → ethminer: init at 0.18.0-rc.0 → https://git.io/fhHt4
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<MmeQuignon> Hi !
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<azazel> hello MmeQuignon
<MmeQuignon> It's my first day with nixos. A teacher introduced it a few days ago and I liked it ! So I decided to give it a try but I have a question. Where could I find documentation about packages ? For example, I can customise vim from my .config/nixpkgs/config.nix but I can't find a list of modifiable packages nor a list of customisable options.
<MmeQuignon> Could someone help me about this ?
<jasongrossman> MmeQuignon: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html
<infinisil> jasongrossman: They're not talking about NixOS
<gchristensen> they're not?
<jasongrossman> "It's my first day with nixos."
<infinisil> Oh
<jasongrossman> Could be a question about Vim packages specifically?
<infinisil> They mentioned config.nix for customization
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<MmeQuignon> Yes, I've already found a list of nixos options
<jasongrossman> Yeah. I thought I'd answer the direct question. There may be other good questions waiting to be answered too.
<infinisil> I'm amazed a teacher introduced it :O
<jasongrossman> MmeQuignon: You can customise Vim in the same way you do on other OSes, if you want.
<MmeQuignon> Yes, I know
<jasongrossman> OK, good.
<MmeQuignon> Actually, I was searching for something about awesome wm
<gchristensen> very cool a teacher introduced it :)
<MmeQuignon> and other softwares
<MmeQuignon> yeah !
<jasongrossman> awesomewm is another thing that you can customise in the usual way, if you want.
<MmeQuignon> Yeah, I've already did it
<jasongrossman> Some programs need to be customised differently, as shown at the link above.
<MmeQuignon> actually, I kept my /home from my previous install
<MmeQuignon> and it worked out of the box
<jasongrossman> There's also home manager for customising some things, but that's not officially part of Nix or NixOS.
<MmeQuignon> But I would like an unique file for versioning
<MmeQuignon> that would be nice
<MmeQuignon> That's what I thought
<MmeQuignon> But, for other softwares, is there a way for me to find the answer by myself ?
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<jasongrossman> MmeQuignon: There's no complete list of the things that are NOT part of Nix or nixpkgs or NixOS. The only thing that springs to mind that you probably want to know about is home manager.
<MmeQuignon> I'll search about this
<MmeQuignon> thanks !
<jasongrossman> :-)
<MmeQuignon> nixos is NICE ! I used to configure most of my softwares in dotfiles, but not anymore !
<jackdk> yeah it's pretty amazing hey
<MmeQuignon> He finished to convince me when he explained how to build docker images from projects.
<gchristensen> nice :D
<MmeQuignon> Tired to reproduce dev environments.
<MmeQuignon> Well thank you for your answers !
<azazel> these modern teachers... mine taught me Z80 assembler ;-)
<siraben> azazel: +1 for the Z80
<MmeQuignon> I dont even know about this x')
<gchristensen> probably fine
<jasongrossman> It's so much fun when a new person groks NixOS. :-)
<genesis> z80 ! i updated caprice32 earlier ;)
<azazel> what's caprice32?
<genesis> a CPC emulator
<genesis> (so z80)
<azazel> Nooo... the Amstrad CPC :-D
<genesis> actually i did 2 packages for amstrad cpc : xcpc and caprice32
<genesis> have fun :)
<azazel> I never owned one, but a friend of mine did
<genesis> the 6128+ was a machine of future
<MmeQuignon> I do python. :D
<genesis> i'm compiling panda3d, big stuff, my computer is too old for this bullshit.
<azazel> MmeQuignon: probably your generation will learn only WASM as the most "low-level" instruction-set :-D