worldofpeace changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS 20.09 Nightingale ✨ https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-release/9668 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 20.09 RMs: worldofpeace, jonringer | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<das_j> s/some work/a rewrite/g
<gchristensen> I don't typically believe in rewrites :P
<das_j> Well at some point it's too late for refactoring
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<abathur> rewrites based on lessons learned are probably worth believing in
<abathur> rewrites of uncommented code also probably not worth believing in
<sterni> incredible that lines up
<abathur> I was impressed, too
<abathur> I thought maybe I was speaking into the void this much later, so I was just admiring it quietly
<abathur> <3 sterni
<{^_^}> sterni's karma got increased to 8
<sterni> for what it's worth I'd believe in rewrites of uncommented code as long as the rewrite is well commented
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<abathur> well
<abathur> I'll believe their heart is in the right place at least :D
<sterni> worry about their sanity…
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<gchristensen> g'night y'all
<gchristensen> hopefully hydra gets a 20.09 channel bump out in my dreams
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<siraben> darwin cache is still going, heh
<siraben> looks like I can't run nixpkgs-review anytime soon
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<sterni> gchristensen just needs to sleep for 3 jobs more
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<{^_^}> Solo5/solo5#494 (by mato, 2 weeks ago, open): New packaging, toolchain, cross-compilation support
<{^_^}> mirage/ocaml-freestanding#92 (by TheLortex, 2 weeks ago, open): ocaml-freestanding becomes a cross-compiler: take 2
<sterni> I've got a working ocaml-freestanding package as well now, so I'm looking to try to build a xen mirageos unikernel one of these days
<Profpatsch> roberth: saw your source combinators PR, exciting.
<Profpatsch> I hope I can take a first look this weekend
<Profpatsch> tis a chonker
<Profpatsch> sterni: go go go
<sterni> really looking forward to mirageos 4.0 statically linked unikernels for unix would be also extremly cool imo
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<roberth> Profpatsch: that'd be great!
<siraben> yay we have the four color theorem in nixpkgs now 🎉 #116078
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/116078 (by siraben, 1 week ago, merged): coqPackages.fourcolor: init at 1.2.3
<siraben> maybe the Fiet-Thompson odd-order theorem could be added
<Synthetica> What is the preferred naming scheme for fixed-version derivations? foo-1-2-3 or something else?
<sterni> Synthetica: tl;dr foo-<major>-<minor>
<sterni> although the actuall application of this in nixpkgs is _very_ inconsistent
<sterni> in a lot of places underscores are used
<sterni> gcc is gcc10 gcc49 etc
<Synthetica> Yeah, I wasn't sure if there even was official guidance on that
<Synthetica> But there is, best stick to that then
<Synthetica> (maybe make all the "wrong" ones that exist now aliases with a warning?)
<sterni> nope, the are no right aliases for gcc for example
<sterni> I think implementing this policy is also not possible 100%
<sterni> for example i think haskellPackages uses underscores because they are not allow in hackage package names
<symphorien[m]> speaking of versionned aliases of gcc, maybe you have an opinion on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/115288
<{^_^}> #115288 (by symphorien, 2 weeks ago, open): Make versionned llvm packages discoverable
<sterni> so we can be sure there won't be a (unlikely) name collision
<sterni> symphorien[m]: I'm all for recurseIntoAttrs for llvmPackages*, but I'm not sure if we should rather phase out clangStdenv in favor of llvmPackages.stdenv
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<sterni> on a related note, I'd love to have pkgsClang
<symphorien[m]> mmh I see your point.
<gchristensen> The channels nixos-20.09-small and nixos-unstable-small both have the openssl upgrade in place. If you're looking to patch, use these channels for now.
<qyliss> +1 for pkgsClang
<supersandro2000> the firefox for aarch64 is outtiming a lot https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/firefox-unwrapped.aarch64-linux#tabs-status
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<sterni> qyliss: maybe I should sit down and just do it at some point, I was just wondering if there was a reason for it not existing
<sterni> seems like a pretty obvious thing to me
<qyliss> there usually isn't
<qyliss> in my broad nixpkgs experience
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<Synthetica> I just learned of the existence of the rebase workflow, would we also want a backport workflow?
<hexa-> ideally, yes
<Synthetica> I'll create an issue and see if I can build something, would probably be a good intro to github workflows
<{^_^}> #104594 (by FRidh, 17 weeks ago, open): GitHub Actions needed for in Nixpkgs
<Synthetica> Ah cool, I'll look into it
<Ericson2314> sterni: very cool!
<gchristensen> nixos-20.09's tested job finished, but there are 8,000 jobs remaining before the channel will davance. I'm considering killing the remaining jobs, letting the channel advance, and then restarting the jobs to backfill the channel. rude, or worth it?
<supersandro2000> something will probably break
<gchristensen> what makes you say that?
<supersandro2000> you never know
<gchristensen> okay, well this is something we've done before so
<gchristensen> :)
<supersandro2000> then maybe nothing will break
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<Ericson2314> sterni: I left a comment
<Ericson2314> on the solo5 thing
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<sterni> Ericson2314: oh good point! read over the pkg-config thing
<sterni> I'm a bit confused what the same prefix thing means for bindings though, I've asked. We currently install all bindings to $out in solo5
<Ericson2314> sterni: oh good
<Ericson2314> oh I htink "all abis" means like multi-target
<Ericson2314> but yes I am not sure
<sterni> maybe they mean without sub dirs?
<sterni> currently it's lib/solo5-bindings-<target> and include/solo5-bindings-<target>
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<gchristensen> oh cool!
<gchristensen> thanks :D
<abathur> :}
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<supersandro2000> Can someone take a look at, please? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107977
<{^_^}> #107977 (by corngood, 12 weeks ago, open): msbuild / omnisharp-roslyn updates
<supersandro2000> a PR for people comfortable with modules https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113918
<{^_^}> #113918 (by felschr, 4 weeks ago, open): nixos/etebase-server: replace customIni with more flexible extraConfig
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<supersandro2000> can someone look at the new test in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/101423 ?
<{^_^}> #101423 (by wamserma, 22 weeks ago, open): ghdl: fix llvm backend, add passthru.tests
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<rmcgibbo[m]> Do we have a formal policy for the python27 EOL anywhere (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/117718 // should "python27Packages.xyz doesn't work" issues be automatically #wontfix, or...)?
<{^_^}> #117718 (by applike-ss, 1 hour ago, open): python2.7-pluggy not buildable
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<aanderse> rmcgibbo: probably marked by "won't be fixed by anyone... unless they need it or it is important"
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<Synthetica> Yeah, wontfix feels like we also wouldn't merge a PR that fixes it nicely... Maybe a "low priority" label?
<sterni> well it wouldn't be wrong
<sterni> python 2 fixes are not always merged
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<aanderse> sterni: yeah sometimes they are refused but not always
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<supersandro2000> maybe https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/101964 is a bit related
<{^_^}> #101964 (by jonringer, 21 weeks ago, open): Convert remaining python2 applications over to python3