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oilshell/oil#914 (by andychu, 12 minutes ago, open): return $x is too strict for libtool
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gchristensen >
oh cool, thanks, abathur!
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ekleog >
Anyone knows if FRidh is responsive to github issues, and if not how I should contact them? (about
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/117542 , I bisected to figure out where the change came from but even now can't figure out the intended meaning of the commit)
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{^_^} >
#117542 (by Ekleog, 48 seconds ago, open): kdeApplications was removed without release notes (for the 21.05 release)
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hexa- >
ekleog: just give him more than one minute :p
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ekleog >
yeah of course, I'm just starting from the basic idea of “people just don't read issues pings”, which may be mistaken but… ^^'
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hexa- >
I believe he does :)
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ekleog >
(esp. FRidh who's codeowner on basically all of python and thus must receive
_lots_ of notifications)
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ekleog >
oh that's cool then, thank you :)
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supersandro2000 >
ekleog: I am somewhat sure he makes a difference between notifications and pings
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supersandro2000 >
to my tired eyes it looks like kdeApplications was replaced with plasma5Packages
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supersandro2000 >
probably just needs an alias
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ekleog >
yeah it looks like that to me too, but I'd rather just verify before, because I'm unclear on whether the objective was to rename, to duplicate or to remove, as none of the options is (AFAICT) clear in the commit messages :/ (and FRidh probably knows best what kind of cleanup they were doing at the time
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ekleog >
I'll probably add a `throw`-ing alias if there's no answer :)
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you can already do that PR if you like
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supersandro2000 >
siraben: propagate the three libraries?
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aminechikhaoui >
Anyone wants to hit the merge button for #117021 if it looks good ?
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supersandro2000 >
I thought packages should never be null and now we bake this in a big style into python packages and break python 2 even more than it already is
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sterni >
supersandro2000: I think a throw "typing has been removed" is nicer in this case
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sterni >
which also lets downstream users of the attribute know what happened
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sterni >
should we try to restart the texlive build on hydra or is it better to hope it doesn't happen later today?
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supersandro2000 >
> out after 30 seconds
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{^_^} >
undefined variable 'out' at (string):492:1
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supersandro2000 >
that is a bit short tbh
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siraben >
supersandro2000: how should I do that?
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siraben >
propagate the three libraries
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supersandro2000 >
propagatedBuildInputs
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supersandro2000 >
at least thats what I try
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supersandro2000 >
*I would try
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gchristensen >
anyone available to look in to this 20.09 channel blocker: anonymous function at /build/source/pkgs/development/compilers/adoptopenjdk-bin/jdk-linux-base.nix:1:1 called without required argument 'sourcePerArch', at /build/source/pkgs/development/compilers/adoptopenjdk-bin/jdk14-linux.nix:5:17
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gchristensen >
while evaluating the attribute 'jdk-hotspot' at /build/source/pkgs/development/compilers/adoptopenjdk-bin/jdk14-linux.nix:5:3:
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gchristensen >
we need this green ASAP for openssl
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{^_^} >
#117191 (by roberth, 3 days ago, merged): [20.09] Staging
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supersandro2000 >
the download should drop in about 10m IIRC
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supersandro2000 >
but the PR does not even touch openjdk...
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arianvp >
dumb question maybe. but how do I make nix flake build show logs in CI?
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arianvp >
it just doesn't seem to print anything at all
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supersandro2000 >
globin: please do not backport commits by directly pushing them to the branch. Creating a PR first can catch eval errors before they are in the branch
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siraben >
arianvp: nix build -L
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siraben >
Wow, it's still not documented in the nix build man page
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gchristensen >
thanks siraben
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gchristensen >
thanks supersandro2000*
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supersandro2000 >
I think I also hit the empty build log yesterday
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gchristensen >
supersandro2000: can you PR reverts?
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sterni >
is it openssl time already?
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siraben >
what's openssl time?
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supersandro2000 >
gimme 3 minutes
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sterni >
got back from the train jit
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siraben >
sterni: btw I updated the PR to use buildPackages.stdenv.cc
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#117586 (by SuperSandro2000, 7 seconds ago, open): Fix eval 20.09
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supersandro2000 >
but please wait for ofborg. I did not test this.
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gchristensen >
I'm not sure ofborg will give useful results
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supersandro2000 >
:/
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gchristensen >
let's find out :)
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arianvp >
siraben: because it's not a nix build option but a global option
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arianvp >
I see it in the `nix` manpage now
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siraben >
arianvp: ah, ok.
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gchristensen >
probably should at least be a hint to look elsewhere, or include those global options there
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arianvp >
but I'd add it to the other too if I were me :P
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supersandro2000 >
nix-env -qaP -f . --show-trace fails in release-20.09 but in my PR it works
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supersandro2000 >
so I am somewhat confident that this issue will be fixed
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sterni >
I guess I can try to build the tarball locally
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sterni >
gchristensen: does ofborg build the wrong tarball or what makes you say that?
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sterni >
oh target branch yeah
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gchristensen >
my expectation is it will try to evaluate the target branch, see it is broken, and say it can't really validate this PR because it can't compare it to th etarget branch
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arianvp >
siraben: still nothing gets printed in CI :/
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siraben >
arianvp: that's strange, which CI is this?
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arianvp >
github-actions
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siraben >
ah the log may not be printed right away, has it finished?
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arianvp >
nope not yet. So nix build doesn't print anymore what will be fetched and what will be built prior to a build?
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arianvp >
that's a very large UX downgrade :'(
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sterni >
supersandro2000: nix-build nixos/release-small.nix -A nixpkgs.tarball doesn't fail on i686-linux like it does on hydra with your PR, so that is a good sign, will commit as soon as the build is finished completely
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gchristensen >
thanks everybody for the help on keeping the branches green for the openssl patch
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sterni >
this feels like the longest checking eval-release.nix of my entire life
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gchristensen >
dying.nix
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gchristensen >
okay, yeah, it did exactly what I expected. I'm going to merge that.
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sterni >
fwiw all three architecture checks succeed with that PR
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sterni >
for the tarball
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gchristensen >
nice
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sterni >
and it failed on the first one on hydra
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sterni >
so seems safe™ enough
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supersandro2000 >
succeeded for me > nix-build nixos/release-small.nix -A nixpkgs.tarball
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sterni >
you clearly have more RAM than me :p
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sterni >
why don't we have pkgsClang btw, would be kinda cool
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sterni >
okay release-small tarball also succeeds for me
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sterni >
it is openssl time!
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sterni >
we don't have a stunnel test :(
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hexa- >
tested s_client for a bit
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siraben >
sterni: what's openssl time?
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hexa- >
siraben: #117588
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hexa- >
basically the world stops breathing for a moment
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hexa- >
and then starts crying because of things like this: Fixed an issue where an OpenSSL TLS server may crash if sent a maliciously crafted renegotiation ClientHello message from a client (CVE-2021-3449)
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Synthetica >
There should be a way to tell ofborg "no, this is more important, let it jump the queue"
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siraben >
Wait how can this be merged into master?
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siraben >
gchristensen: yeah, i didn't quite get it
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siraben >
it's still a mass rebuild, no?
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gchristensen >
it is, yes
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siraben >
or hydra's pace will soon make it irrelevant?
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gchristensen >
hydra can handle a mass rebuild quite quickly
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siraben >
impressive, also for darwin?
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gchristensen >
under the right circumstances, yeah
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gchristensen >
staging is so mass rebuilds don't hit the main branches continuously, and major upgrades to important utilities don't break everything
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sterni >
it is a mass rebuild we hope breaks nothing and we need to get in the channel as soon as possible
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hexa- >
A server is only vulnerable if it has TLSv1.2 and renegotiation enabled (which
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hexa- >
is the default configuration).
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sterni >
at least it's “only” a crash
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hexa- >
of course things could always be worse
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gchristensen >
you know what
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gchristensen >
that lib tests check is doing builds. this is exactly why I didn't want to do builds in ofborg: mass rebuilds like this one completely gum it up.
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gchristensen >
I'm merging
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* sterni
nervously opens hydra
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hexa- >
3000 open jobs
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hexa- >
basically idle
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hexa-: I stopped most things
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hexa- >
yep, you mentioned me in the coordination issue
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hexa- >
and queueing happens after the eval is complete?
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gchristensen >
right
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so everyone's stopping merges?
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not necessarily
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abathur: could you please remove the @ sign from the mentions in the commit messages? Otherwise GitHub spams me each time you rebase.
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annoying github has not fixed that
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abathur >
of course! sorry about that :)
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"79254 builds have been bumped to the front of the queue."
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sterni >
we can be happy that we have fixed output derivations
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sterni >
like… openssl bump would be a world rebuild otherwise
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sterni >
openssl -> curl -> every source
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sterni >
gchristensen: still have pending evaluations for nixos:release-20.09{,-small}, nixos:unstable-small though…
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gchristensen >
yeah, evalution takes Some time
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gchristensen >
they're prioritized and working though, I'm watching
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gchristensen >
note that distros typically try to get these releases out in 7 days
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sterni >
I thought pending meant not started yet in contrast to running since?!
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gchristensen >
yes, pending means not yet started
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nixos:trunk-combined is evaluating now
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gchristensen: crazy actually if you think about the fact that they can rely on ABI stability and don't need to rebuild so much?
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gchristensen: nixpkgs:trunk is already starting to build :)
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gchristensen >
great :)
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sterni >
79254 queued jobs
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sterni >
there it is
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sterni: depends on which machine/remote builder
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sterni >
supersandro2000: I figured you for someone running > 16GB ram everywhere tbh
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supersandro2000 >
my phone has less :/
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in the future we should start by evaluating the -small variants which evaluate quickly and get to building the choke points of the build graph faster, and those can build while the very large evaluations run
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de facto that happened right with nixpkgs finishing first?
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sterni >
should be cheaper to evaluate without the test stuff
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no, because the -small variants evaluate in 10s of seconds to a couple minutes, but the non-small variants can take 10+ minutes to finish registering builds in the database
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because there are 43 jobs vs 43,000 jobs
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gchristensen: maybe something to add to the jobs coordination issue?
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link?
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{^_^} >
#117495 (by FRidh, 22 hours ago, open): hydra.nixos.org nixpkgs/nixos jobs coordination
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gchristensen >
cool
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or in a policy document of "how to do coordinated releases of critical security patches"
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sterni: lol I tried to run nixpkgs-review on my koka PR like two hours ago and it was trying to download thousands of paths
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I guess I'll have to wait for the cache to warm
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I wonder what distro(s) freenode's servers run on
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oops, off-by-one channel (should've been -chat)
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30s seems harsh, is there anything we can do about that? cc gchristensen
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gchristensen >
seems weird, I reran it.
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gchristensen >
20.09-small is about to update
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sterni >
gchristensen: it happened already earlier today I think, with the same error
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gchristensen >
okay, I'll take another look at that once release-20.09 is nearly done
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Hmm, was release-20.09 supposed to be running with the openssl commit? Or just -small for now?
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doxygen seems to be broken in release-20.09
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gchristensen >
oh no srhb
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gchristensen: Yeah, thought so. :P
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gchristensen >
hearty sigh.
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gchristensen >
I am guessing there was some input caching
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srhb >
Seems like it, yeah
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oh I see I just needed to build doxygen on a machine with less cpu load
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ivan >
gotta win the make races
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gchristensen: Hrm. Did the eval fail?
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gchristensen >
my brain is mush. what?
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Nevermind, I can look into it myself. Was just wondering because it was evalling after you aborted the old release-20.09, but now it isn't, yet no new evaluation in the list...
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gchristensen >
I think I need to step away because my brain is ??? right now, back in a bit :P
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ivan: are you sure? not finding a header doesn't feel like a flaky build due to load to me
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at least for me it was missing header configvalues.h
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/build/doxygen-1.8.19/src/config.h:22:10: fatal error: configvalues.h: No such file or directory
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sterni: isn't that the typical manifestation of a make -j problem? file doesn't exist because something else didn't finish yet
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ivan: oh huh, sounds about right
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#117081 (by jtojnar, 4 days ago, open): GNOME: 3.38 → 40
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jtojnar >
This GLib update broke more things than usual
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hydra#899 (by grahamc, 12 seconds ago, open): Projects, jobsets: order jobsets with disabled, hidden rows at the end
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good in principle
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samueldr >
also makes it easier to grok what you're looking at with "active" things grouped together
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yeah
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sterni >
guix was pretty fast with openssl
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sterni >
currently the list is pretty much alpine, exherbo, gentoo, void, guix who have already shipped the openssl fix
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gchristensen >
I messed up the shepherding of the 20.09 patches and, well, here we are.
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gchristensen >
we'll get it out soon. the standard big distros are held to is 7 days. not to say there's no pressure, just to say we're not outrageous here
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sterni >
what happened to 20.09? didn't follow it really
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gchristensen >
the jobset evaluated with an old revision of nixpkgs -- not the one we'd just merged. presumably due to repository caching
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gchristensen >
I'm going to take some measures to get some channels moved forward, like canceling jobs.
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abathur >
<3 gchristensen
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gchristensen's karma got increased to 444
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Mar 26 00:07:25 ceres hydra-queue-runner[821]: AWS error 'SlowDown' (Please reduce your request rate.), will retry in 0 ms
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supersandro2000 >
does that mean hydra can't upload to aws?
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supersandro2000 >
also why retry in 0ms?
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gchristensen >
it probably does a exponential backoff where the first backoff increment is [ms
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supersandro2000 >
is that something to worry about?
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hexa- >
is it time to restart other stuff?
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hexa- >
staging-next, staging, gnome, python-unstable
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hexa- >
staging-20.09*
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gchristensen: ^
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I guess not until unstable and stable channels gets their respective openssl bumps?
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I'll keep my eye on it tonight
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low priority I guess, but it'd be nice to have a "lockdown" mode to hydra where until select given evals are complete, no other evals gets worked on, but things still gets queued as usual
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samueldr >
different from "bump builds in front of the queue" in that if you were to "bump builds in front of the queue" in that mode it'd still bump them, but wouldn't be processed until the select evals are complete
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yeah that sounds really good
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gchristensen >
the queue runner's dispatcher could use some work, it is quite complicated
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gchristensen >
(is this my chance for TAGS?)