worldofpeace changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS 20.09 Nightingale ✨ https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-release/9668 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 20.09 RMs: worldofpeace, jonringer | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<siraben> How often is the unstable documentation on the website rebuilt?
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<siraben> I just noticed my updated conversion of the cross-compilation section is live; https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/unstable/#chap-cross
<samueldr> siraben: ASAP
<samueldr> literally "as soon as possible" :)
<siraben> ah
<samueldr> whenever nixpkgs-unstable is updated, and the website follows through in ~1 hour
<qyliss> nice :D
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<Gaelan> Has anyone looked into moving kernel modules into separate derivations, so we only need to build the ones we're actually using?
<andi-> You mean one derivation per module?
<Gaelan> yes
<andi-> If so you'll have to somehow generate the dependency graph of your module
<andi-> like which other modules it requires etc.. and right now we do not have that information available and it will likely require some sort of read/import from derivation
<Gaelan> ah, darn.
<JJJollyjim> gosh, it's really frustrating how many packages aren't updatable via overrides, usually cos they do things with `rec` and `version`
<siraben> when you override an attribute does the change propagate to other references in a recursive attr set?
<andi-> no
<siraben> as in, are identifiers references or values
<siraben> ah
<JJJollyjim> no:(:(
<siraben> I saw someone on the discourse have a requirement to have specific versions of packages
<siraben> seems somewhat painful since overriding doesn't always work and nixpkgs doesn't have every version ever
<ivan> my LPT is to git rebase your own nixpkgs with your changes
<andi-> we could have something like { stdenv, pkgSpecificatoin ? { name = "foo"; version = "42"; } }: stdenv.mkDerivation as pattern to work around such issues. Not sure what the downsides of that are (besids bein hacky)
<siraben> also why is drawing the store graph with graphviz so slow? is it really that computationally intensive to try to draw a planar graph?
<siraben> yeah
<JJJollyjim> planar as in producing a 2d image?
<JJJollyjim> instead of a 3d one? :P
<siraben> nix-store -q --graph $(nix-build -A foo) | dot -Tpng | display
<siraben> planar as in planar graph
<siraben> well not always possible here because of cross edges and so on
<siraben> but that `dot -Tpng` command is slow for large graphs
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<siraben> How do I run the tests in pkgs/test?
<sphalerite> andi-: you also need to take a source parameter or similar
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<andi-> sphalerite: well that is something you can usually override easily but in a perfect solution yes. At that point we might even consider using JSON for specification of a package instead of Nix.
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<jtojnar> siraben: yeah graphviz is really slow https://gitlab.com/graphviz/graphviz/-/issues/1284
<siraben> Jan Tojnar: Is there a faster alternative?
<siraben> especially for the kind of graph nix store would generate
<jtojnar> maybe try a different layout engine first
<drakonis> happy holidays, everyone.
<siraben> happy holidays!
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<ajs124> whatever happened to the dashboards on https://monitoring.nix.ci/?
<hexa-> pretty sure -> #nixos-borg :)
<hexa-> I asked the same a few days ago
<hexa-> 21:44 <gchristensen> gone to the bit bucket
<ajs124> guess that's one more channel to add to the endless collection of nix and nixos related channels
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<gchristensen> ultra low throughput and not generally interesting
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<V> oh no
<V> I relied on those constantly
<V> lol
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* V mutters something about "workflows" and storms off
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<gchristensen> we can get them back, but the server they were on was not backed up and turned on for the last time
<gchristensen> s/get them back/build them again/
<gchristensen> went to the server farm up state
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<hexa-> is that code for "cloud"?
<gchristensen> lol, no, but the server did go to the big datacenter in the sky
<gchristensen> (even more cloud-ey...)
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