<eyJhb>
Nvm, it got fixed. Anyone able to start the new queued build?
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<manveru>
any ideas why `import (toFile ...)` is not allowed in flakes?
<manveru>
or, to be more accurate, `(import (readFile (toFile ./something))` :)
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<Mic92>
Ericson2314: do we really want this MMIX architecture?
<Mic92>
I see value in the architectures but what is mmix useful for. It does not appear to have any ambitions to be a real target.
<domenkozar[m]>
morning
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<ehmry>
Mic92: sure, we'll run it in webassembly
<ehmry>
seriously though, I don't see a reason to stop adding platforms, and if we did, it would be good to make it possible to define platforms externally
<{^_^}>
#102946 (by roberth, 18 hours ago, open): tzdata: revert to fat format
<roberth>
review very much appreciated
<roberth>
dusty unix alert though
<gchristensen>
I think those tests are useful to us to see it is packaged correctly
<roberth>
the go_boot stuff isn't "production" code though, so it didn't quite feel right to bother the go maintainers with that. Perhaps we should duplicate it and call it go-tzdata-canary?
<roberth>
idk how often the tzdata default format changes, but it seems quite rare
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<Ericson2314>
Mic92: I would say no but for it using stack gcc newlib binutils etc. That minimizes the footprint. There's still the emulator, but someone might legitamately want that for teaching
<Mic92>
Ericson2314: would it not be better than to have a way to define those platforms outside of nixpkgs?
<Mic92>
This allows those platform maintainers also to pin nixpkgs and update it in their own speed.
<Mic92>
I mean nixpkgs also supported hurd for some time but at some point I removed it again because it was broken and abandoned and it took time to refactor expression because of conditionals based on hurd
<Ericson2314>
Mic92: well hurd had a lot more conditionals than this does?
<Ericson2314>
(and I don't really seeing them growing since very little software will compile with it?)
<ryantm>
Maybe we can encourage people on Discord to use Matrix. I've been using Element and Discord in parallel and it is about the same user experience.
<ryantm>
samueldr: Hm7 on Discord
<samueldr>
hm
<samueldr>
(heh)
<ryantm>
Scrollback on Element on my phone is much worse than Discord.
<samueldr>
it's relatively annoying: my goal is not to cut avenues of communication, but rather as a community to not endorse that kind of platform
<samueldr>
if the bridge were individual IRC users being connected, and joining channels, I wouldn't have much of an issue other than the endorsing thing
<samueldr>
but the "one user is all users" kind of bridge is a big opaque wall for irc and matrix users
<samueldr>
it makes the experience markedly worse
<samueldr>
I've been in bigger channels with a bunch of traffic from such bridges and it was hard to bear with on the IRC side
<ryantm>
I'm not sure you can have it both ways: not cut communication with people and not endorse other platforms.
<ryantm>
Yeah, I agree that the bridge sucks technically. We should look into other options.
<ryantm>
There's 258 people online on the Discord server, with 48 people regularly active.
<samueldr>
yeah, that's exactly why it's annoying; since you end up cutting an avenue of communication if you don't allow it to be bridged... but they are not two sides of the same coin
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<ryantm>
Oh, it's #nixos-jvm not #nixos-java, and also #nixos-ruby is being bridged
<ryantm>
If Matrix were the central/official, I suspect the user experience could be better. For example, there is a supposedly a Matrix-Discord bridge that supports "Puppeting" https://matrix.org/bridges/#discord.
<ryantm>
were the central/official chat platform*
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<ryantm>
Thinking about it more, you'd probably have to establish credentials with all the "spokes" to make it work seamlessly, which seems like a big pain.
<ryantm>
samueldr: I referenced a link to your logs about your objections to the bridging in the Discord admins chat.
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<ryantm>
Rather, the objections, not just yours.
<supersandro2000>
ryantm: Only Elements is slower and uses a lot of battery