sphalerite changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS 19.09 now in beta! https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-19-09-feature-freeze/3707 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 19.09 RMs: disasm, sphalerite | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<edef> hmm. i feel we should just leave nix.maxJobs's default at "auto"
<Taneb> Well, by marking hundreds of packages as broken we've achieved sub-300 Hydra failures on 19.09
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<sphalerite> Taneb: yeah the idea is to mark everything that's broken as broken before the release for ZHF.
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<sphalerite> I think we failed to do that last time.
<sphalerite> Well, we also screwed it up a bit yesterday and I'm fixing it now.
<Taneb> We could get one fewer failure if someone reviews https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/70614
<{^_^}> #70614 (by Taneb, 21 hours ago, open): intecture-cli: use openssl 1.0.2
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<ajs124> sphalerite: I saw that, how/why did some things that were actually building fine (like kscreen, libguestfs and kicad) get marked as broken?
<worldofpeace> tap tap, reverse dependencies ajs124
<sphalerite> in the case of kscreen, I think we mistakenly marked it as broken based on https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1547176 libsForQt511.libkscreen not building
<sphalerite> libguestfs was… an odd case https://hydra.nixos.org/build/102667669
<sphalerite> and we failed to consider that some expressions are accessible through multiple attrpaths
<worldofpeace> sphalerite: i did notice these things when reviewing the pr
<sphalerite> Great :p
<sphalerite> Anyway, I think we need to document the ZHF process a bit more, because there were some things I think I knew and disasm didn't, and there are probably also quite a few that I don't know but previous RMs do >_<
<worldofpeace> totally, perhaps there even should be a tool to mark the packages as broken
<sphalerite> niksnut: the 19.09 job is failing to evaluate, I think it's getting OOM killed. Is there anything I can do about it, and if not, is there anything you can do about it?
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<jonge[m]> hi there. i am trying to run commands like `nix-env -i -f https://foobar.com/bla.zip -A somePackage`, but the host's certificate is a custom one that i would somehow need to install so that `nix-env` can consume it... how would i do that? the system knows this cert already, but nix-env doesn't appear to use it.
<jonge[m]> the error message is `warning: unable to download 'https://...': SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60); retrying in x ms`. i already installed the `cacert` package via nix, but that also doesn't seem to help nix use system certs
<ryantm> The Final Comment Period for RFC 0052, Away from Static IDs, has started and, barring any blocking issues, will be merged after 2019-10-18. Your opinions, comments, and approvals are welcome! https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/52
<{^_^}> rfcs#52 (by Infinisil, 4 weeks ago, open): [RFC 0052] Away from static IDs
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<sphalerite> jonge[m]: nix uses the NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE environment variable to find its certificates. Also, that's more of a #nixos question :)
<jonge[m]> well on my nixos machines i just set the right env vars in the /etc/nixos/configuration.nix and that's it. but that won't work on my darwin machines. what's the best way to have that on darwin?
<jonge[m]> when i set `NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE=/etc/ssl/certs/company-root.pem nix-env -i -f ...` it doesn't work eitehr unfortunately.
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<niksnut> sphalerite: I reduced the number of concurrent evals to 1, maybe that helps
<sphalerite> niksnut: thanks
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<gchristensen> Udbuntu 19.10's GUI installer will have an experimental "install with ZFS" option
<worldofpeace> lol, omgubuntu comments "I believe this is the first distro to offer ZFS as an option"
<worldofpeace> meanwhile... NixOS. Look at this smirk on my face now 🙂
<gchristensen> hehe
<gchristensen> ubuntu has supported ZFS for some time now I think, but it wasn't a clicky-option
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<samueldr> I prefer toggly bits in configuration than a clicky option
<cransom> cdd
<cransom> oops. ww
<worldofpeace> ubiquity? everyone knows the new-ness is clearly https://github.com/elementary/installer/wiki
<drakonis_> elementary is shamelessly a osx UI clone
<worldofpeace> it totally isn't
<worldofpeace> (gathers supporting info) note I'm biased as I maintain Pantheon in nixpkgs
<drakonis_> it just needs the same shades of color
<drakonis_> then it is a carbon copy
<drakonis_> hmm
<drakonis_> i suppose it isnt their goal but it does look a lot like it
<drakonis_> it looks heckin nice tho
<worldofpeace> there's literally no transparency or blur
<drakonis_> i should say i have used a osx UI for no more than 1 hour
<drakonis_> in my life
<drakonis_> yet it has somehow left a strong visual impression
<gchristensen> what a great palette! https://elementary.io/brand
<worldofpeace> yeah, 15 years + and its left an impression
<gchristensen> it does look an awful law like macos :)
<gchristensen> (which is fine)
<worldofpeace> lol, there's not even traffic light buttons
<drakonis_> it is entirely fine and good because macos looks great.
<samueldr> rounded rectangles, gray "graydients"
<gchristensen> +1
<drakonis_> does it have theming though?
<samueldr> if we'd stopped ourselves at "it looks a lot" we wouldn't have progressed past the xerox star
<samueldr> a lot like*
<drakonis_> windows looks way too much like kde
<drakonis_> vista looks like a prettier kde 3
<samueldr> (and this discussion is probably better suited for #nixos-chat)
<worldofpeace> lol, totally
<drakonis_> agreed
<drakonis_> a discussion suited for here
<worldofpeace> linux users suddenly talking about desktops is a running problem
<drakonis_> when are the secrets getting dealt with?
<drakonis_> there were a few complaints on the internet regarding nixos having no way to handle secrets
<worldofpeace> uhh, I know any search for that will bring up long running discussions without resolve. which is unfortunate.
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<drakonis_> very.
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<worldofpeace> i'd say mention that it's a long running issue for us to support that. and I guess there's workarounds available to mention
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<q3k> anyone feels like a sweet and simple new package revieew? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/70749
<{^_^}> #70749 (by q3k, 7 hours ago, open): evdevremapkeys: init at 0.1.0
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<globin> matthewbauer: https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/commit/5ba8c04ae51b915a18dabf2cb7d75d8a4611de4d broke the linux stdenvBootstrapTools, could you check that?
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