<pie_> hmm. not that i ever actually got around to trying to run talon-voice, but it might be interesting to try running it on nix-on-droid
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<Ke> sphalerite: I wish, but there would be no guarantee it would be accepted, also I don't even know, what exactly is in ucm, only the vague idea
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<ehmry> what is the procedure for dealing with packages that don't build for aarch64 and for which one does not have time to fix? mark broken?
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<samueldr> that should be fine, if there's a discussion (e.g. bug or PR comment) it's nice to also link to it in a comment
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<zeta_0> i'm finally able to get nixos to build on my raspberry pi 4, but for some reason, i'm struggling to get a desktop environment working, xmonad threw build errors, next i'm going to try gnome and plasma, have any been able to get a desktop environment working with this setup?
<zeta_0> samueldr: ^
<samueldr> a few months back I was
<samueldr> but, first, before even playing around with desktop environments, please work on getting ssh working in a way you can just copy/paste things on the pi
<samueldr> you're going to work way faster on the problem rather than copy/pasting things by hand
<zeta_0> samueldr: i got ssh working last night and copied and pasted everything, but now when i try to ssh again it asks for a password, which i don't remember setting one up, so that's strange.
<samueldr> let me guess at your issue
<samueldr> you had the ssh key set in the config for the sd image build
<zeta_0> samueldr: emacs's tramp package sound good, but i couldn't get it to work.
<samueldr> but you did not configure it in the configuration.nix on the device
<zeta_0> samueldr: let me double check on that, one second !
<zeta_0> samueldr: in configuration.nix for openssh.authorizedKeys.keys = [ "ssh-ed25519 ..." ]; i substituted ... with my ed key.
<zeta_0> samueldr: i think i'm close though, one i can get xmonad and xorg for my kyb layout, the rest shouldn't be too difficult to setup, then i'll be good to go.
<samueldr> then I wouldn't know, sorry, too many possibilities
<zeta_0> samueldr: do you know of anyone that has a similar setup to mine? that way they can show me the way they set it up.
<samueldr> I don't know of any
<zeta_0> samueldr: by when will the support for nixos on raspberry pi 4 be better, currently it still seems very experimental !
<samueldr> that's a loaded question :/
<samueldr> first of all, the current images are using the raspberry pi foundation's kernel fork because *they* don't support mainline linux
<samueldr> and then I'm pretty sure your issues are not raspberry pi specific, at least the build issues are simply aarch64-linux specific
<samueldr> and the general answer is "whenever someone gets around to it"
<samueldr> AFAIK there is no one employed by the NixOS distribution to work on support for aarch64 linux desktop
<samueldr> so, to answer the complete question, there will not be "support" for nixos on raspberry pi for the near term
<zeta_0> samueldr: oh ok, i see, well i'm going to try to at least get any desktop environment working on my nixos pi setup, and then from there, i'll tinker with it and try to get xmonad working on it.
<samueldr> also note that until recently the raspberry pi foundation only supported 32 bit linux
<samueldr> and their 64 bit support is still experimental
<zeta_0> samueldr: i think my sd card has 4 gigs of memory, is that enough memory for my setup?
<samueldr> storage space, unlikely to be enough, that's real tight
<zeta_0> because for xmonad, gcc threw an out of memory error.
<samueldr> but out of memory is different than out of disk space
<zeta_0> samueldr: so will running nixos-collect-garbage -d every once in a while and setting the nix garbage collector service to do this once a month help keep my pi from running out of memory, because 4 gigs does not seem like much for an os like nixos on a pi.
<samueldr> 4GB of disk space is likely not going to cut it, even with garbage collection
<samueldr> you would be hard pressed to fit two generations after a stdenv rebuild
<zeta_0> samueldr: ok, well i guess i'm going to have to order another sd card soon.
<zeta_0> samueldr: i ran raspbian on my pi for 6 months on my pi without any issues, so i don't see why nixos would give me issues, but ya a bunch of generations will hog up a lot of memory !
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<colemickens> maybe if I get administrative nonsense done today I'll come back to rpi4+uefi experiments.
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<samueldr> colemickens: I expect uefi+rpi4 to (at some point) just work, I guess the issues I had the last time were because I tried to boot of usb
<samueldr> and lots changed since
<samueldr> what I'd like to see is u-boot+rpi4, even with their kernel fork
<colemickens> will uboot fit in rpi4 spi?
<samueldr> probably not
<colemickens> that would be appealing, maybe even more so than the uefi...
<samueldr> I'm talking about a setup just like the raspberry pi 3
<samueldr> IIRC the SPI is ridiculously small
* colemickens nods
<samueldr> but I agree, if they had put something like a 16MiB SPI for hacker's purposes, that would have been amazing
<samueldr> it would have elevated the rpi4 from "don't bother" to "good"
<samueldr> (I *really* dislike their custom boot chain, which is a form of vendor lock-in)
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* colemickens nods
<colemickens> at least there's Nix to bind all of the pieces together.
<colemickens> In fact, I can't imagine trying to get something cohesive out the door without NIx, just in terms of managing patchsets, which uboot+kernels are compatible, et.c