<DigitalKiwi>
next step is flash your phone from another phone
<DigitalKiwi>
and develop android apps on a tablet
<danielrf[m]>
I do kindof want to try flashing a phone from another phone--if only for the bragging rights :)
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<samueldr>
danielrf[m]: amazing
<samueldr>
danielrf[m]: it shouldn't be hard to do, just... do it
<samueldr>
hmm, there might be one issue
<samueldr>
how do you determine which is the host and which is the guest if you don't have a hub?
<samueldr>
(but trivial if you use a usb hub)
<DigitalKiwi>
have a hub
<samueldr>
but just having the tools for aarch64 is nice
<samueldr>
did it take a long time to build?
<DigitalKiwi>
can it go in nixpkgs
<danielrf[m]>
I was hoping the "USB controlled by" setting under the android "USB preferences" would be sufficient to say which device would be the host
<danielrf[m]>
The other issue I have is that my phones are currently unrooted--so no direct USB access
<danielrf[m]>
termux has a "termux-usb" thing which should allow access on unrooted systems, but it didn't seem to work for me
<danielrf[m]>
samueldr: I built it originally on the community builder--pretty quick. I also later did it on my phone using nix-on-droid--quite a bit slower
<danielrf[m]>
my hacky soongnix build scripts don't have any parallelism currently--I'll probably generate makefiles or .ninja files like the real "soong" for parallelism
<samueldr>
danielrf[m]: see, my mobile nixos phones don't have a usb preferences menu :)
<danielrf[m]>
building from source would mean we wouldn't have to require the user to accept the SDK license.
<danielrf[m]>
samueldr: haha, true :)
<samueldr>
(and I don't remember that from any phones)
<samueldr>
oh, just found it, and there's nothing that looks host enough :/
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<DigitalKiwi>
does cellular service work on mobile nixos
<DigitalKiwi>
and can you make calls
<samueldr>
not yet
<DigitalKiwi>
oh
<DigitalKiwi>
just wifi then?
<DigitalKiwi>
does cellular work on any linux device
<DigitalKiwi>
like that surface pro x has a built in 4g modem does linux support stuff like that?
<samueldr>
yes cellular can work on linux devices
<samueldr>
and it's a goal of the project
<samueldr>
AFAIK it's all possible, though there may be some caveats for android-based hardware
<samueldr>
though the pinephone (and anything made-for-mainline) should work just fine at some point
<DigitalKiwi>
time for vague question o clock
<DigitalKiwi>
i saw a laptop that looked interesting
<DigitalKiwi>
and now i can't find it
<DigitalKiwi>
that's all i can remember
<DigitalKiwi>
do you know which one it is? :P
<samueldr>
looked interesting how? and in what year? new?
<samueldr>
open hardware? aarch64?
<DigitalKiwi>
ok there is more i think it had a lot of ram and was like something i hadn't heard of and it may or may not have had open hardware possibly aarch64 but not maybe not
<DigitalKiwi>
like i was probably looking for open devices and/or laptops with a lot of ram
<samueldr>
lots of ram almost rules out aarch64 because AFAIK there's nothing for consumers with lots of ram really
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* colemickens
has a spare refurb pixel 3 and a pinephone on the way
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<samueldr>
nice
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<Thra11>
When are they going to do a "NixOS edition" pinephone? :)
<samueldr>
no one spoke with me about that
<samueldr>
I figure two issues
<DigitalKiwi>
in the mean time there is nix-on-droid
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<DigitalKiwi>
wait
<samueldr>
(1) the user base is much smaller than those other projects
<DigitalKiwi>
is pinephone android
<samueldr>
no
<DigitalKiwi>
rip
<samueldr>
btw, "NixOS edition" is about printing on the back panel + community contribution
<samueldr>
Mobile NixOS already works (to parity+) on the Pinephone
<samueldr>
(2) most NixOS users I know of that had interest in the device already will have one
<samueldr>
maybe I could get in touch with them and see if they're more interested in producing only replacement backs?
<samueldr>
though I guess the community size would make it or break it
<samueldr>
I figure that, other than the upgraded ram version, there is no reason anyone with a pinephone would buy a second one only for the NixOS edition branding
<DigitalKiwi>
does pinephone support cellular or is it wifi only too
<samueldr>
the support hasn't been worked on yet
<samueldr>
though that should only be a formailty
<samueldr>
formality*
<DigitalKiwi>
that's some galaxy brain right there for them to release a phone that doesn't even phone
<samueldr>
support in Mobile NixOS
<DigitalKiwi>
oic
<DigitalKiwi>
sorry yeah that was imprecise i meant w/e os pinephone ships with
<samueldr>
galaxy brained of them: they don't really ship an OS :)
<DigitalKiwi>
well now i feel less dumb
<DigitalKiwi>
so like what os does support it with cellular
<samueldr>
though some mobile distros with more regular person-hours do have it working already without issues
<samueldr>
AFAIK "upstream" postmarketOS and UBPorts do
<samueldr>
and I believe there's an archlinux forklet by an individual with good support for it
<DigitalKiwi>
arch of course lol
<samueldr>
there could be other distros with support, I don't know them off the top of my head if there are
<DigitalKiwi>
wow there's no pinephone wiki page though that's a shock
<DigitalKiwi>
arch*wiki page
<samueldr>
yeah, there shouldn't be either since archlinux doesn't support ARM/aarch64
<DigitalKiwi>
well there is a page for arm that basically says that but go here
<DigitalKiwi>
so far it has been a major failure :( not a complete failure but a failure
<DigitalKiwi>
oh
<DigitalKiwi>
i should uh write that post and send it to domenkozar
<DigitalKiwi>
for nixos weekly
<DigitalKiwi>
is there a nixos for aarch64 logo
<samueldr>
no, and there's no need for it since it's part of the main distro :)
<DigitalKiwi>
but we could sticker them on the back of pinephone
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<colemickens>
alright clever I have to ask, I feel like there's a chance... you don't have a Nix expression for building the rpi4 uefi firmware do you?
<colemickens>
I kind of want to build it with the 3GB limit off so I can serve that over netboot.
<colemickens>
I guess there's probably a way to apply that settings to the nvram file?
<colemickens>
Or, big brain, I could do it on an SD card, then copy out the FD nvram file and use it. That should work.
<clever>
colemickens: i havent looked into building uefi with nix yet