zimbatm changed the topic of #nixcon to: 25-27 October 2018 - London - https://nixos2018.org , organisation is on https://trello.com/nixcon
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<zimbatm> currently building the program in Google Calendar
<zimbatm> last year there was a weird mix of 15, 30 and 45min talks
<zimbatm> I am going to standardize to 30min for everyone
<zimbatm> if your talk doesn't fit 30min then it can go into the lightning talks
<goibhniu> nice
<zimbatm> it's going to be intense :)
<zimbatm> samueldr: did you chat with vcunat about doing the release manager talk yet?
<zimbatm> is 6 talks in the afternoon too much?
<zimbatm> 1h30 of talks - 15 min break - 1h30 of talks
<zimbatm> in the morning it's a bit more relaxed: 1h of talks - 15 min break - 1h of talks
<zimbatm> or I could add a second 1min break in the afternoon
<andi-> I think another break would be fine. I remember last year that during the afternoon a few people started to wander towards the coffee machine probably because concentration was fading
<samueldr> zimbatm: didn't yet
<goibhniu> zimbatm: ah, 30 mins includes questions and changing speakers ... is that a bit tight?
<goibhniu> we could also skip having questions
<goibhniu> a few mins between talks, to fiddle with mics and connecting laptops etc. are usually required
<goibhniu> maybe 5 mins would be enough, to prevent talks running over ... so the speakers could have 25 mins, and questions, but only if we're not running late
<zimbatm> yeah it's up to the speaker if he wants to handle the questions or not I guess
<zimbatm> we can also use the breaks to test the laptops
<zimbatm> I'll add another break so we only have to test 2 laptops at the same time
<goibhniu> no women speaking this year either, how embarrassing :/
<zimbatm> oh yeah :/
<zimbatm> should we invite someone?
<goibhniu> it would be awesome, Susan Potter would be great
<goibhniu> ah, she's in the states, I thought she was based in England
<goibhniu> (or Scotland?)
<zimbatm> I hope the community is not toxic to women
<zimbatm> it would be great to have her, do you know if she is aware of nixcon?
<zimbatm> one of my colleague at Tweag just asked me today when the call for paper was going to happen
<zimbatm> I assumed everybody knew about nixcon already!
<goibhniu> I don't know her personally, I've just noticed she raves about Nix frequently online, no idea if she's aware of nixcon
<goibhniu> I think there's a irish woman who was doing nix stuff, can't think of her nick though
<flokli> grr, why are the lambdas in the nix logo slanted? seems impure too me… :-/
<flokli> uploaded a new logo version at https://trello.com/c/TIXjBgMw/17-logo-design , which is even better printable, but the rooftop is a bit off the edge of the lambda, as the lambda itself is slanted
<flokli> feedback much appreciated :-)
<samueldr> flokli: I realized that too a small while back
<samueldr> I was mildly miffed by that fact
<samueldr> flokli: how should the bottom be cut?
<samueldr> always flush with the bottom of the nixos flake?
<samueldr> (just verifying this isn't an "artifact" from cropping the viewport)
<flokli> erm, I think the logo is just based on something from the official artwork
<flokli> I'd just print it as it is, possibly align big ben's rooftop and floor optically
<flokli> in case people agree with the direction of course :-)
<samueldr> I like it better than the "messy" one before
<samueldr> while I had the smaller one in mind, both actually
<zimbatm> this logo is getting better and better
<zimbatm> I have simple criterion, like that it fits in a square
<zimbatm> that's the kind of things that make me happy
<zimbatm> and it works in a circle too!
<zimbatm> sorry, I don't have any taste in terms of design
<zimbatm> flokli: would it be possible for the clock to be perfectly centered you think?
<goibhniu> it just occurred to me, that there are 12 points on the nix logo ... like the clock
<andi-> Can we display the local london time on the website?!? ;)
<zimbatm> make it dynamic with svg + javascript :)
<goibhniu> I was thinking more of the logo as the face of the clock on big ben ^_^
<goibhniu> sorry, don't mean to meddle with the design
<goibhniu> but I might make a NixOS clock myself
<goibhniu> Nix time ... all the time \o/
<flokli> zimbatm: have a look here: https://flokli.de/nixcon2018_simple_centered.png
<flokli> it's a bit hard, with the topright lambda being visible behind the tower
<zimbatm> is it bad?
<zimbatm> it looks good to me
<zimbatm> do you think that big ben will still be recognizable on smaller prints?
<flokli> well, the clock is quite prominent
<flokli> so even at smaller zoom levels, it's visible I'd say
<andi-> make the circle a bit smaller in radius and reduce the thickness of the pointers?
<zimbatm> when zooming out the flake has more presence than big ben, not sure if it's good or bad
<andi-> the Ben should probably be a bit taller since it ends up weird in that top middle lambda
<samueldr> is it bencon or nixcon?
<flokli> how small do we want to show that logo?
<samueldr> :)
<flokli> If we want the clock perfectly centered, we shouldn't make the roof larger…
<zimbatm> favicon :p
<flokli> nah
<zimbatm> just joking
<andi-> we might need multiple? :) Make the lambdas around ben rotate and grow/shrink? ^^
<flokli> andi-: you got the job :-)
<andi-> flokli: nah, I am not doing more stuff for a while and you know that :P
<zimbatm> I'm happy with the result
<flokli> so I boil that svg down, upload to the trello board, and zimbatm, you'll update it on the website?
<zimbatm> yeah I can do that
<flokli> ok great
<flokli> zimbatm: uploaded
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<zimbatm> much nicer. flokli: https://nixcon2018.org/
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<flokli> <3
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<LnL> nice, it fits in much better with the rest of the icons
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<andi-> I have a nice game for the evenings at nixcon. Roll a CVE number and if affected drink :P
<infinisil> zimbatm: The turn anymation is screwed up!
<LnL> we might not get to the hackathon if we do that
<infinisil> Oh already mentioned
<zimbatm> infinisil: yes we know :)
<zimbatm> you missed the version that wasn't even centered
<zimbatm> does it count as an attack to the crown to have big ben fall like that?
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