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<nikivi>
Who runs mac on a server though
<gchristensen>
I guess I've been doing a lot of reading in to the tea leaves of what they're doing
<gchristensen>
so who cares about mac server, but what does this mean for the direction of macos
<gchristensen>
the # of devs I know _personally_ who work on Windows now is shocking! we'll need #nix-windows soon!
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<cransom>
i flirt with the possibility that my workstation goes back to windows. i'd have to play with the linux layer a bit more though first i guess.
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<nikivi>
What's wrong with mac though?
<nikivi>
Aside from some questionable hardware decisions, I think macOS as OS is still amazing
<nikivi>
Mostly due to no other OS having such high quality apps built specifically for mac
<nikivi>
I haven't worked with windows in a long time though, maybe things changed a lot since then
<cransom>
i don' tknow if windows is much better, but the mac os quality side took a heavy hit in 10.13. they are showing more interest in ios and the the mac os side seems to just be how you develop for ios now. i dont know if i'll switch back, but i'm curious.
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<copumpkin>
do we have a sensible plan for what to do with all those multi-user installs with org.nixos.nix-daemon.plist hardcoded to 1.11 when 1.12 gets released?
<copumpkin>
I'm thinking the nix multi-user installer on macOS should create an almost meaningless "system" profile, like NixOS has
<copumpkin>
nix-darwin can adopt it and use it too
<copumpkin>
but the only thing that goes into it without nix-darwin is nix itself
<copumpkin>
which can then be updated, and then the plist file refers to the system profile's nix-daemon
<copumpkin>
oh I guess we already seem to have a "default" profile
<copumpkin>
with nix and cacert in it
<copumpkin>
that's probably all we need, for the plist file to point at that
<LnL>
hmm, that's an interesting idea
<copumpkin>
(then we get GC protection as well as upgradeability)
<copumpkin>
(we'll still need some solution to fix the current plist though)
<copumpkin>
LnL, gchristensen, niksnut : ^
* gchristensen
hides
<LnL>
alltho the current multi user stuff works fine with 1.12
<nikivi>
Oh hey copumpkin
<LnL>
you just have to reload it yourself
<nikivi>
So your talk on nix last year online and it what got me interested in nix on mac
<copumpkin>
LnL: except your daemon still points at 1.11 unless you repoint it
<copumpkin>
nikivi: yay \o/
<nikivi>
Still trying to integrate nix in my workflow
<LnL>
the plist is a symlink to /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/...
<LnL>
so it does if you reload/reboot
<nikivi>
Have so many packages and things installed in brew already
<copumpkin>
LnL: anyway, telling people to go wrangle a nasty nix path into a plist doesn't seem like the right way to keep their software up to date :)
<copumpkin>
really??
<copumpkin>
mine has a full path in it
<copumpkin>
I wonder how that happened
<LnL>
yeah that's what I'm saying
<copumpkin>
hmm
<copumpkin>
maybe I tried an earlier version of the installer. I don't even remember when I installed on this machine
<LnL>
the plist has a full path, but it's the content of pkgs.nix