#home-manager on 2020-03-23

2019-03-22 01:06 rycee changed the topic of #home-manager to: Support and discussion around the Home Manager project (https://github.com/rycee/home-manager) | Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/home-manager

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01:23 <energizer> if i want to customize my services.syncthing options https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#syncthing can I do that in the home-manager configuration or is it supposed to be separate?

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18:28 <spacekookie> I'm having some weird locale issues on things I install with home-manager on non-nixos systems. i3status for example crashes with "Could not set locale ..."

18:29 <spacekookie> I dave LOCALE_ARCHIVE set as a session variable to pkgs.glibcLocales/lib/locale/locale-archive

18:29 <spacekookie> Otherwise not really sure how to debug this (I know very little about locale settings(

18:31 <cole-h> spacekookie: How exactly are you starting i3status? Is it a systemd unit, or running from the terminal, or what?

18:34 <spacekookie> cole-h: well I'm just invoking i3status on the terminal (which should work). But this isn't specific to that one tool, kitty for example also crashes with a locale issue

18:34 <cole-h> and if you `echo $LOCALE_ARCHIVE`, it shows the expected path

18:34 <cole-h> ?

18:35 <spacekookie> Indeed

18:35 <spacekookie> stracing i3status shows it opens it sucessfully, then tries to open a bunch of /nix/store/.../lib/locale/en_GB.../ paths

18:36 <spacekookie> Which fails, then it prints an error and exits

18:36 <spacekookie> The host OS is Arch Linux but I feel that shouldn't make a difference

18:36 <cole-h> Yeah, I'm trying to remember what I did to solve that issue

18:36 <cole-h> (also on Arch and experienced the same thing)

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18:38 <cole-h> Are you running i3status from nixpkgs, or native? Assuming nixpkgs, but just to be sure

18:38 <spacekookie> nixpkgs

18:38 <spacekookie> Native installed will happily print into my terminal

18:57 <spacekookie> Bleh, I don't like computers

18:58 <cole-h> Technology sucks >:(

18:58 <cole-h> (Sorry, I can't remember how I solved this problem.)

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19:06 <spacekookie> That's okay, I guess I'll not lean as heavily onto home-manager as I had planned at first

19:15 <rycee> spacekookie: What is the first `…` in ` /nix/store/.../lib/locale/en_GB.../`?

19:16 <rycee> Something like `…-glibc-locales-2.27`?

19:17 <spacekookie> rycee: yea

19:17 <cole-h> Oh, then I think you need to set LOCALE_ARCHIVE_2_27 to that glibcLocales path

19:18 <spacekookie> I tried LOCALE_ARCHIVE and 2_27

19:20 <rycee> spacekookie: Do you set the variable though HM? If so, did you relog after switching to the generation having `LOCALE_ARCHIVE_2_27`?

19:21 <spacekookie> I think so but let me double check that by just running this again

19:23 <rycee> That said. On my system I only have `LOCALE_ARCHIVE` set and I haven't run into this issue, I believe. But I'm on NixOS and perhaps the `LOCALE_ARCHIVE_2_27` variable is not necessary there?

19:23 <spacekookie> Huh... okay I must have set _2_27 but not relogged? Because it didn't work with LOCALE_ARCHIVE but now it works

19:23 <spacekookie> So...woops

19:24 <cole-h> Yeah, that's something I also had to work around: unsetting `__HM_SESS_VARS_SOURCED` for my WM so it doesn't get inherited

19:24 <cole-h> That way each new terminal instance will indeed source `hm-session-vars.sh` or whatever

19:25 <rycee> spacekookie: Glad it worked :-)

19:26 <energizer> if i want to customize my services.syncthing options https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#syncthing can I do that in the home-manager configuration or do i have to do it as a system-level configuration? i like to have a user-level service

19:28 <rycee> energizer: Unfortunately the syncthing module in HM is very simple and doesn't support any configuration yet.

19:30 <energizer> ok

19:30 <rycee> It'll be a good project for the enterprising Nixer to port the NixOS module to HM :-)

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20:18 <energizer> `home-manager switch` is giving me the allowUnfree message. i've got `allowUnfree = true;` and `nixpkgs.config.allowUnfree = true;` in every place i can think of

20:18 <cole-h> `~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix` -> `{ allowUnfree = true; }`?

20:18 <energizer> i have that

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20:43 <rycee> energizer: What does `nix eval '(import ~/devel/home-manager/modules {configuration=~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix;pkgs=import <nixpkgs> {};}).config.nixpkgs'` say?

20:43 <rycee> Sorry, `nix eval '(import <home-manager/modules> {configuration=~/.config/nixpkgs/home.nix;pkgs=import <nixpkgs> {};}).config.nixpkgs'`

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20:52 <energizer> rycee: it seems to have fixed itself, not sure what i changed

21:04 <rycee> Sweet.

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21:50 <Orbstheorem> Hello ^^ Is there a way to have home-manager render to an FHS system without nix?

21:51 <Orbstheorem> I'm splt between fully embracing home manager modules and keeping my config marginally debian compatible

21:52 <Orbstheorem> Don't get me wrong, I'm in love with Nix and NixOS, but there are some situations where I just wouldn't deploy either of them.

21:53 <Orbstheorem> Or should I just rip the aid-band off and stop being fhs compatible?

22:05 <rycee> Orbstheorem: Not entirely certain what you mean but HM is fundamentally dependent on the Nix package manager. But for the most part it works just fine on non-NixOS systems.

22:27 <energizer> how do i make a service? if i just try adding services.myservice = ... it tells me that the services.myservice option doesn't exist.

22:27 <energizer> or am i supposed to do that in the nix config, not home manager

22:28 <rycee> energizer: I'm afraid you have to be a bit more specific about what you mean by "service". Are you wanting to create a HM service module or a systemd user service?

22:29 <energizer> rycee: i didn't know there was a difference!

22:29 <rycee> A HM service module typically ends up defining a systemd service.

22:30 <energizer> when do i want each?

22:30 <rycee> If you are just wanting to run something under systemd then you can use the `systemd.user.services` option: https://rycee.gitlab.io/home-manager/options.html#opt-systemd.user.services

22:32 <energizer> when would i do the other thing?

22:33 <rycee> If you are wanting to create a HM module then you can have a look at the NixOS manual section on modules, most of the things there also apply for HM: https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-writing-modules

22:33 <rycee> A simple actual HM module is https://github.com/rycee/home-manager/blob/master/modules/services/xscreensaver.nix

22:34 <energizer> that'd be for if i wanted to contribute a service to HM itself?

22:35 <rycee> Yes, or if you want to split your own configuration into multiple modules.

22:35 <rycee> Your home.nix is itself a module.

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