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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @das-g opened pull request #75126 → [19.09] thunderbird, thunderbird-bin: 68.2.2 -> 68.3.0 → https://git.io/Jeyra
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed to master « mimalloc: fix one final time »: https://git.io/Jeyri
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar closed pull request #53409 → Geany: Support for GTK2 and GTK3 → https://git.io/fhOVf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #74387 → geany: clean up and switch to GTK3 → https://git.io/JeX6z
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyrP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @earksiinni opened pull request #75127 → pythonPackages.mapbox: init at 0.18.0 → https://git.io/JeyrD
<evanjs> Sooo does anybody have an idea on what to check for my cursor disappearing on xmonad? Don't think I changed anything earlier today but I have rebuilt+upgraded
<evanjs> currently running xmonad under gdm on 19.09
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<JanitorDan> Hi, first time NixOS user here. I'm currently attempting to install. I have my partitioning done, and have generated my configuration.nix. The problem I'm running into is when I run `sudo nixos-install` I get the following error: "error: opening lock file '/mnt/nix/var/nix/db/big-lock': Permission denied"
<JanitorDan> Sorry, that's the wrong error. That's what I get if I try to run it without sudo. With sudo the error is: `error: could not set permissions on '/mnt/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user' to 1777: Operation not permitted`
<x123_> JanitorDan: does the mount output look correct (fs not mounted readonly or incorrectly mounted)?
<evils> JanitorDan: looks like someone ran into this problem before, because /mnt was formatted to fat
<x123_> yeah doubt that is going to work if it is FAT
<x123_> maybe you have a boot partition as FAT incorreclty mounted as root, not sure without seeing more info
<JanitorDan> Thank you! You're absolutely right. I somehow mixed up and formatted my boot partition xfs, and my root partition fat.
<JanitorDan> No way that was going to work, haha.
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<JanitorDan> Installation is moving along smoothly now.
<x123_> good to hear
<x123_> JanitorDan: what type of hardware?
<exarkun> Somehow the setuptools changes in 90be4c2c7875c9487508d95b5c638d97e2903ada cause a whole bunch of python test failures like these https://gist.github.com/exarkun/ac376f9fcd5daa5698a7437e18195767
<exarkun> but I ran out of week in which to investigate how or why :/
<exarkun> hoping I'm lucky and somebody else has a clue
<JanitorDan> x123_: My problem is resolved, but in case you were asking out of curiosity, CPU: Ryzen 2600, GPU: Vega 56, 16GB RAM, Intel 512GB NVMe SSD.
<JanitorDan> No pesky Nvidia drivers to deal with.
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<JanitorDan> Initial boot is a success :D
<x123_> nice, planning on it as a desktop or server?
<JanitorDan> Desktop. Though the reproducibility of the package management makes it tempting for server use.
<x123_> very cool, I've been loving it on the laptop...
<JanitorDan> I know a few people who installed NixOS recently, and have had nothing but good things to say, so I'm giving it a fair shot. It was pretty impressive when they showed me how easy it was to generate a vm image of their own system.
<x123_> I've been using various BSDs/*NIXes over 20ish years, really liking the Nix experience so far. Let's see how it pans out :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #75128 → pythonPackages.{pandas,panel,pafy,ovh,opt-einsum,oauth,numpy}: fix homepage → https://git.io/JeyoR
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<mica[m]> If everything you need is already packaged, nix is super easy!
<exarkun> If you immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Jeyou
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryneeverett opened pull request #75129 → legit: init at 1.1.0 → https://git.io/Jeyoo
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<evanjs> Ooooo I'm seeing others having issues with touchpad on 5.4 as well. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=251207. Crap. Anybody else see this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #75002 → gnome3.mutter: backport patches from gnome-3-34 branch → https://git.io/JeDrB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyo9
<evanjs> Bah. Anybody have an easy/idiomatic example to override kernel version for linux_latest to 5.3? Or is there an easier option I'm missing? I don't see any expressions for 5 outside of latest in tree
<clever> evanjs: rather then override linux_latest, just set boot.kernelPackages to linuxPackages_5_3
<clever> evanjs: it will only exist in nixos-unstable, but you can still mix that into stable
<clever> ,unstable evanjs
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<evanjs> clever: Yah I just checked top-level and saw it there. Should've used `nix search` as since I added all those channels to my NIX_PATH, it would've shown up there (I was using eval with no extra options)
<lovesegfault> Why doesn't something like this work? `nix-build . -A 'beets.override { enableCheck = true; }'`
<lovesegfault> (trying to test a new plugin option in a pkg
<lovesegfault> cc. clever
<clever> lovesegfault: -A can only accept an attribute path, you want -E
<lovesegfault> :O
<evanjs> `boot.kernelPackages = lib.mkForce pkgs.nixos-unstable.linuxPackages_5_3;` much better
<clever> evanjs: you shouldnt need an mkForce
<evanjs> Well _I_ do haha. That's in a machine level config, and I have my desktop profile defaulting to linux_latest
<lovesegfault> clever: clever How do I tell nix-build -E to use my local nixpkgs and not the upstream one (channel)?
<evanjs> this is the only laptop so I'm leaving the others alone for now
<lovesegfault> ❯ nix-build -E 'with (import <nixpkgs> {}); beets.override { enableCheck = true; }'
<lovesegfault> This complains the attr doesn't exist
<clever> lovesegfault: replace <nixpkgs> with ./.
<lovesegfault> :O
<evils> evanjs: fwiw, i just tried 5.4 on a thinkpad T410 with sway (wayland) touchpad works
<clever> lovesegfault: all <nixpkgs> does, is look for nixpkgs in $NIX_PATH
<clever> and return a path
<evanjs> evils: luckyyyyyy. First time I've had an issue this severe upgrading kernels in a while
<evanjs> ASUS G751JY here
<lovesegfault> clever: success!
<evils> evanjs: if it makes you feel better, i get a segfault if i shutdown my desktop
<evils> s/segfault/kernel panic/
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<evanjs> *sigh*
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<evanjs> Welp.
<evanjs> On 5.3
<evanjs> Nothing
<evils> and my mouse didn't work on 5.2 :P
<clever> evanjs: 5.4 is also in unstable
<evanjs> Well I mean touchpad doesn't seem to work on 5.4.1 or 5.3.14 so I wonder if it really is related to the kernel
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<evils> evanjs: you're getting the same driver on both?
<cryptomonad> Anyone else having trouble creating a bootable usb stick from the current nixos iso that works for UEFI?
<evils> evanjs: where both means a working and non-working config
<evanjs> I would need a working config to test... and I'm so limited for space on this device I nix-collect-garbage between builds, soooo :P
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<evils> can you try the stable kernel? i assume that's 4.19
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 opened pull request #75130 → cura suite: 4.3.0 -> 4.4.0 → https://git.io/JeyoA
<evanjs> evils: I suppose so. Shouldn't hurt anything...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 closed pull request #74134 → curaengine: 4.3.0 -> 4.4 → https://git.io/JePCF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #74784 → hcloud: 1.13.0 -> 1.14.0 → https://git.io/JeMUe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyK2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #74380 → parted: 3.2 -> 3.3 → https://git.io/JeXKU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JeyKA
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<aleph-> Well that's fun. Somehow nixOS can't mount my root device anymore.
<aleph-> Sigh, time to get a recovery stick I guess.
<cryptomonad> I just tried the newest unstable iso - this worked. So there seems to be something wonky with the current iso and creating bootable usb drives for UEFI
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<yorick> aleph-: what does it say?
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<aleph-> yorick: Unable to find /dev/disk/... for /
<aleph-> Well it was / or /mnt
<yorick> do you have a raid setup?
<aleph-> I do not
<yorick> did you change bios settings?
<aleph-> Nope
<clever> aleph-: is the disk on usb, sata, or nvme?
<slack1256> I am following a tutorial for kernel module development like this one https://blog.sourcerer.io/writing-a-simple-linux-kernel-module-d9dc3762c234 . On a FHS distro I could just run the Makefile but what should I do on nixos?
<aleph-> nvme to my knowledge. It's a small Intel nuc
<yorick> aleph-: does the bios still know about the drive?
<clever> slack1256: the nixos manual has an example of how to get a shell that can build kernel modules
<yorick> well, obviously you are booting from it
<clever> aleph-: did you tell nixos to include nvme support in the initrd?
<slack1256> clever: Cool, I'll check it out.
<yorick> aleph-: did you change anything since it was last working?
<clever> aleph-: boot.initrd.availableKernelModules = [ "nvme" ];
<aleph-> clever: Do I need to? Interesting.
<aleph-> I'll need to check once I get a live USB up
<clever> aleph-: yes, without that, it wont be able to find the root disk
<aleph-> Huh. Worked fine for weeks
<aleph-> Odd
<clever> aleph-: did you change anything?
<evanjs> evils: oh wow. 4.19 doesn't work either. Definitely something weird on my end
<aleph-> clever: Nothing in hardware-config
<aleph-> Just some home manager stuff
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<clever> aleph-: try an older generating in the bootloader?
<aleph-> Yeah planning to. That's happened going back five generations, but it's all from the same day
<aleph-> So should try more
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<_pash> hello, when setting sourceRoot in a package, i get an error saying it cannot access $sourceRoot/python
<_pash> any hints?
<slack1256> clever: Worked like a charm, thanks.
<clever> [ 0.000000] Division by zero in kernel.
<clever> eek, what have i done now? lol
<ornxka> clearly, you divided by zero
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #75040 → 🙈️ Remove webkitgtk24x → https://git.io/JeDSd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 10 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyiL
<ornxka> the arithmetic police will be at your house shortly
<clever> [ 0.000000] [<801a0c2c>] (clocks_calc_max_nsecs) from [<80c0ff28>] (sched_clock_register+0xcc/0x2f4)
<clever> i think 0 ms have passed? lol
<clever> [ 0.000000] arch_timer: cp15 timer(s) running at 0.00MHz (virt).
<clever> yeah, that borks everything, lol
<aleph-> Nice
<aleph-> clever: See now we need to port noxOS to run on the zedripper architecture
<aleph-> That's the future right there
<clever> aleph-: this is an rpi3, with custom firmware
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<ornxka> when i do cryptsetup benchmark i get Required kernel crypto interface not available.
<o1lo01ol1o> How can I remove a domain from acme? I have an old test that's unable to renew it's cert.
<evils> o1lo01ol1o: removing it from the acme configuration isn't sufficient?
<o1lo01ol1o> evils: seems not
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<ornxka> ah its fixed in master
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<Miyu-saki> Is there a type for hashes?
<Miyu-saki> Or hex strings, I guess
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<yorick> is there a nix-build --just-sed-fix-my-shasums?
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<yorick> alternatively, a blog post "10 nix tools that make your life easier"
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<ornxka> whjat do i set system.stateVersion to if im making a configuration.nix thats gonna be built against git
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<ornxka> https://releases.nixos.org/nixos/unstable/nixos-20.03pre204199.3140fa89c51 do i just like, include that whole string after unstable/
<ornxka> or do i just set it to 20.03
<yorick> ornxka: 20.03
<ornxka> thx m8
<dansho> what does it mean if i'm getting collisions when rebuilding?
<yorick> dansho: with nixos-rebuild?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr opened pull request #75132 → perlPackages.XMLParser: Work around cross-compilation regression → https://git.io/JeyXM
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<evanjs> What to try for the non-functional touchpad, next... >.>
<evanjs> Only on NixOS, anyway. Seems to work fine under Windows 10
<yorick> evanjs: does it work on ubuntu?
<yorick> they do the dark magic that makes all the hardware work :D
<evanjs> I mean it probably even works on Gentoo lol.
<evanjs> This just happened recently. Didn't make any major changes to my config AFAIK
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<evanjs> but then I don't test it as often on my laptop
<yorick> evanjs: oh, then git bisect
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<dansho> yorick: aye
<yorick> dansho: what does it say exactly?
<juxiemaotu> i am using nixos 19.03 , how can i upgrade to 19.09? where should be config
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<juxiemaotu> i try it. but fail
<yorick> juxiemaotu: how?
<juxiemaotu> change my channel to 19.09 ,then run: sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
<juxiemaotu> failed
<evanjs> yorick: like bisect my config or..?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: what did it say
<yorick> evanjs: well, what did you change?
<dansho> yorick: https://paste.ee/p/Zlccj
<yorick> evanjs: probably the nixpkgs under it
<yorick> dansho: you have two xfce-terminals in your system path
<juxiemaotu> let me try it again,wait for a moment
<juxiemaotu> sudo nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-19.09 nixos
<yorick> dansho: also, two xmonads and clang and gcc
<juxiemaotu> sudo nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade
<yorick> evanjs: do earlier configurations still have a working touchpad?
<juxiemaotu> and it stop here for a long time
<dansho> hmm i guess xfce automatically includes terminal
<yorick> dansho: different versions, though
<yorick> I'm not sure how you're doing that :P
<yorick> juxiemaotu: that's possible, if you have slow network or a lot of substituters
<juxiemaotu> so , i want to ask is my config step right?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: what does sudo nix-channel --list say?
<dansho> i'm not sure what to do about binutils/gcc/clang, should i only import gcc and clang inside of nix-shell?
<yorick> dansho: what's what I do. note that your system will still work like this
<yorick> juxiemaotu: that sounds right
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<juxiemaotu> another question,how to msg you with name highlight?
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<juxiemaotu> just like i can see your message by prompt
<juxiemaotu> i am a newer for using weechat
<yorick> juxiemaotu: type yo and then hit tab
<juxiemaotu> yorick: is that?
<yorick> yes
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i get it ,thanks
<juxiemaotu> yorick: it is useful
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<evanjs> yorick: tried going back a week or two and that doesn't seem to do anything. I do wonder what the lowest level I could check would be tho. Not sure what to look for in dmesg or journalctl or etc
<yorick> evanjs: i2c or psmouse
<yorick> or synaptics
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<juxiemaotu> warning: unable to download 'https://releases.nixos.org/nixos/19.09/nixos-19.09.1507.2ed8568d837/nixexprs.tar.xz': HTTP error 200 (curl error: Timeout was reached); retrying in 269 ms
<yorick> juxiemaotu: can you download that file manually?
<juxiemaotu> how?
<juxiemaotu> yorick: how?
<yorick> by going to that url in your webbrowser
<juxiemaotu> yorick: and then, where to place it?
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<yorick> juxiemaotu: anywhere, I just want to see if that works at all
<evanjs> yorick: oh well this is great
<evanjs> evtest reports fine haha
<evanjs> movement, mouse buttons, etc
<evanjs> wtf
<yorick> evanjs: what's your desktop env?
<evanjs> xmonad on gdm
<juxiemaotu> yorick: ok, i have download it
<juxiemaotu> yorick: next step?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: does sudo nix-channel --upgrade work?
<yorick> --update, sorry
<yorick> I think you can nix-prefetch-url file://PATH_TO_THAT_FILE and then maybe it will know about it
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: ehh,no.it just stopd at:
<juxiemaotu> yorick: waiting for lock on '/root/.cache/nix/tarballs/19w9giw0hh0q38zy4yrdr5wpd58082jwgk789bfjrxnnfl64ymd4-file'...
<yorick> juxiemaotu: do you have any builds running still?
<yorick> any nix things?
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: nixos-rebuild is tring to download that file...
<juxiemaotu> yorick: should i kill it ?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: yeah
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: ok,nix-channel --update is restart the same.but it is keeping wait with none prompt
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<yorick> juxiemaotu: I don't understand why it can't download that file
<yorick> juxiemaotu: use nix-channel --update -vvv to see more information
<juxiemaotu> yorick: you are right,but i can download it manully
<juxiemaotu> yorick: it stop with this prompt the same:
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<yorick> juxiemaotu: is there anything nix still running in the process list? try rm -rf /root/.cache/nix/tarballs
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i had run this command, and no ero
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i had run this command, and no err prompt
<yorick> now does the updating work?
<juxiemaotu> yorick: no , it still stop there
<yorick> Maybe clever knows. He knows everything.
<clever> juxiemaotu: how long have you waited for it to finish downloading?
<juxiemaotu> yorick: can i use the file that i download manually
<yorick> lol
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<yorick> maybe you can mv THAT_FILE /root/.cache/nix/tarballs/19w9giw0hh0q38zy4yrdr5wpd58082jwgk789bfjrxnnfl64ymd4-file
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i download it using axel ,and wait for about 30 seconds about
<clever> yorick: thats supposed to be a symlink, moving there will break things
<infinisil> What are the /dev/ram<n> devices I see in fdisk?
<infinisil> Where are they coming from?
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<clever> infinisil: ramdisks, they show up if a certain kernel module is loaded
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<yorick> I think maybe https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2748 should be replaced by libarchive
<{^_^}> nix#2748 (by edolstra, 36 weeks ago, merged): Make nix/unpack-channel.nix a builtin builder
<infinisil> Hm I see
<infinisil> Seems like I'd have to compile the kernel to change that
<yorick> infinisil: or patch fdisk
<infinisil> Yeahe
<infinisil> Oh well, not worth the effort
<clever> or just use `lsblk` and tell fdisk what to list
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<infinisil> Hm I never considered using lsblk for this
<yorick> I only use lsblk and never fdisk
<infinisil> lsblk -f is nice
<infinisil> lsblk on its own too
<infinisil> Yeah I guess I'll use that instead of fdisk in the future
<clever> i use fdisk if i want to see parititon type codes, table type, and positions
<infinisil> And it has json output too!
<clever> lsblk if i just care about dev names
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryneeverett opened pull request #75135 → vim-vint: 0.3.20 -> 0.3.21 → https://git.io/Jey1I
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<lovesegfault> Why are my propagatedBuildInputs not being propagated :(
<clever> lovesegfault: where are you expecting them to propagate to?
<lovesegfault> clever: My shell when I do nix-shell -E ...
<lovesegfault> nix-shell -E 'with (import ./. {}); beets.override { enableCheck = true; }'
<clever> lovesegfault: is it in the propagatedBuildInputs of something that is in beet's buildInputs?
<lovesegfault> clever: if A depends on B and B propagates C, will having A in my env mean I have C?
<clever> only if you open the shell suitable for building A
<clever> if you open a shell with a built copy of A, you wont get C
<clever> enless A also propagates B
<lovesegfault> hmmm
<evanjs> Anybody else's touchpad cursor not working on xmonad? Not sure what else to look at right now, especially since evtest seems to indicate it's functional
<evanjs> *cursor not appearing/can't use touchpad
<lovesegfault> clever: Darnit
<lovesegfault> Even if I add flac to beet's propagatedBuildInputs I don't see it in the shell
<lovesegfault> Invoking with nix-shell -E 'with (import ./. {}); beets.override { enableCheck = true; }'
<clever> lovesegfault: are you expecting a binary or a library?
<lovesegfault> clever: bin
<clever> lovesegfault: binaries should probably be in the native inputs list
<clever> if you expect to run them at "build time"
<lovesegfault> It's a python script that calls these bins at runtime
<clever> ah
<clever> have you tried just plain buildInputs ?
<clever> it sounds like you dont need propagatedBuildInputs
<lovesegfault> clever: Why would that work?
<clever> propagatedBuildInputs just automatically adds it to the buildInputs of future derivations
<clever> but thats not needed for dependency tracking
<lovesegfault> clever: if A has B as a propBuildInput end I nix-shell -p A, will I see B's binaries on my path?
<clever> i think so
<clever> because `-p A` generates a derivation with buildInputs = [ A ];
<Miyu-saki> Technically not if cross-compiling though, right?
<Miyu-saki> Actually, wait.
<clever> Miyu-saki: there is an optional strict mode, that wont put the normal buildInputs into PATH
<clever> Miyu-saki: so you can simulate some cross-compile issues, without actually cross-compiling
<Miyu-saki> Ahh. And yeah, the -p thing works. And it actually allows you to use -p for individual python packages instead of using withPackages.
<Miyu-saki> And also allows you to use the binaries of a package under withPackages.
<lovesegfault> clever: Then I don't understand
<lovesegfault> Let me show you my links
<lovesegfault> *code
<lovesegfault> clever: Here you go:
<lovesegfault> This is the new plugin
<clever> lovesegfault: just put all of the files in one gist
<lovesegfault> clever: on it
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<lovesegfault> last one is a patch if you want to test
<clever> lovesegfault: you can also edit an existing gist
<evanjs> yup. touchpad further confirmed working via gpm. Going to take a look at xmonad, next...
<clever> lovesegfault: you also have a cycle, sorta
<lovesegfault> clever: How?
<clever> lovesegfault: beets-check depends on beets, which depends on beets-check, that should fail
<clever> lovesegfault: but the defaults beets doesnt have enableCheck
<lovesegfault> the other plugins do it
<clever> so beets-check depends on the non-check version of beets
<lovesegfault> yes
<clever> and the check version of beets depends on the beets-check
<lovesegfault> it uses beets only as a lib
<lovesegfault> and creates a bin-plugin of beets
<clever> and python packages propagate the PYTHONPATH, so the non-check-beets version may override the check-beets
* lovesegfault 's brain explodes
<clever> lovesegfault: also, your already adding flac in both files, so it should already be present
<lovesegfault> clever: Exactly
<lovesegfault> but it ain't
<clever> 2019-12-07 01:39:49 < clever> Miyu-saki: there is an optional strict mode, that wont put the normal buildInputs into PATH
<clever> 2019-12-07 01:40:04 < clever> Miyu-saki: so you can simulate some cross-compile issues, without actually cross-compiling
<clever> lovesegfault: depending on how things are done in python, the normal buildInputs may not wind up in PATH
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<lovesegfault> How?
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<lovesegfault> OH
<lovesegfault> I think you are correct
<clever> not sure, i havent looked into the internals of the python code yet
<clever> and i should get to bed, its nearly 2am now
<lovesegfault> none of the prop'd inputs are on PATH
<lovesegfault> clever: Definitely, gnight and thanks again!
<clever> there is also a propagatedNativeBuildInputs
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: i had mv the file,but it does'nt work
<evanjs> hmmm here's some stuff -- "Couldn't init device "ETPS/2 Elantech Tocuhpad" -- wonder if this is related
<evanjs> xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mouse1
<evanjs> Permission denied
<yorick> evanjs: yes, that sounds related
<juxiemaotu> yorick:i think ,there is a lock file for download,so it locked
<evils> when running my kicad nix package on debian, i'm getting an error from python, `no module named 'math'`, anyone know what could cause this difference between nixos and debian?
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: emm, can i use axel instead of curl which used by nix-channel or nixos-rebuild?
<yorick> clever: can you just nix-prefetch-url these tarballs?
<yorick> evils: it importing some ancient python version from debian, maybe?
<evils> yorick: i believe i'm using python38 from nix
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<yorick> evils: try fatrace to see where it is looking
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<evanjs> mmkay, enabling debug messages for gdm as that came up from gdm-x-session, which was either services**gdm or home-manager**xsession, I would think
<yorick> evanjs: you could work around it by adding yourself to the input group, I suppose
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<juxiemaotu> Can i use axel instead of curl which used by nix-channel or nixos-rebuild?
<evils> yorick: hadn't heard of fatrace, looks /nix/store/7vaz4a8fzxm57qmx6iycx5lyzjy9wr3b-kicad-5.1.5/lib/python3.8/site-packages uses /usr/lib/python3.8
<evils> s/looks/looks like/
<yorick> juxiemaotu: I think you can do it manually but I don't really know how
<evanjs> yorick: ahh didn't realize I wasn't but yeah lemme see
<yorick> evanjs: you're not really supposed to be nowadays
<evanjs> yorick: yah that's what I figured. Seems to fix it but I'm not sure why that happened in the first place
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<evanjs> probably unrelated, but my touchpad feels like it's super accelerated now. Can't imagine it was #72774 but bah. I'll just adjust that
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/72774 (by sylv-io, 4 weeks ago, merged): nixos/libinput: apply options to all device types
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lovesegfault opened pull request #75136 → beets/check-plugin: init at 0.12.0 → https://git.io/Jey1V
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: i find this in nixos manual,how to config it ? services.aria2.enable
<yorick> juxiemaotu: it won't help you with the tar thing
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i think i can make the download speed faster
<yorick> juxiemaotu: do you think it times out before 30 seconds?
<lovesegfault> How do I make my patches apply?
<yorick> lovesegfault: patches = []
<lovesegfault> I added it to patches = [ ./my_patch.patch ]
<lovesegfault> but it doesn't apply
<lovesegfault> (resulting sources are broken
<yorick> lovesegfault: do you override the build phases?
<lovesegfault> nope
<lovesegfault> yorick: I need the patches before checks, fwiw
<yorick> lovesegfault: checks are last
<juxiemaotu> yorick: i mean,when i use axel,the download time is about 30seconds. but when update or upgrade,the nixos download speed is about 20kbi/sec
<juxiemaotu> yorick: it too slowly,need change the download tools
<lovesegfault> yorick: Got it!
<lovesegfault> I needed to make a sed postPatch
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<juxiemaotu> yorick: is
<juxiemaotu> yorick: Is
<juxiemaotu> yorick: Is's it a download tool with multi process?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: nix uses libcurl internally, you can't just switch it out
<yorick> sadly
<juxiemaotu> yorick: ohh... and what about aria2 used?
<yorick> juxiemaotu: nix doesn't use aria2 to get the tarballs
<juxiemaotu> yorick: it used for ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #74738 → ocamlPackages.logs: 0.6.3 → 0.7.0 → https://git.io/Je1St
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « ocamlPackages.logs: 0.6.3 → 0.7.0 »: https://git.io/Jey1H
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<yorick> juxiemaotu: you can enable aria2 to get it installed in your nixos installation
<yorick> it is not used in nix
<juxiemaotu> yorick: you mean,it just a app,and the flag just config it ?
<yorick> yes
<juxiemaotu> yorick: got it
<juxiemaotu> yorick: how to improve my slowly network speed.... oh my god
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<{^_^}> nix#3025 (by zeecde, 17 weeks ago, open): HTTP error 200 (curl error: Timeout was reached) - unable to update and install
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<juxiemaotu> when i use nixops to deploy nixos on another machine,faild by:
<juxiemaotu> The ‘fileSystems’ option does not specify your root file system.
<juxiemaotu> how can i fix it?
<juxiemaotu> my nixops config file is simple:
<juxiemaotu> deployment.targetHost = "xxx.xx.xx.xx";
<juxiemaotu> i had try to add :boot.loader.grub.device = "/dev/sda";
<juxiemaotu> but it dosen't work
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<hyper_ch> eyJhb: howdy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mkg20001 opened pull request #75138 → cinnamon.xapps: init at 1.6.4 → https://git.io/JeyM8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #75139 → ocamlPackages.mdx: 1.4.0 → 1.5.0 → https://git.io/JeyMB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « neomutt: 20191129 -> 20191207 »: https://git.io/JeyM0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyMr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75100 → eksctl: 0.11.0 -> 0.11.1 → https://git.io/JeyCx
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75098 → parity: 2.5.10 -> 2.5.11, parity-beta: 2.6.5 -> 2.6.6 → https://git.io/JeyCS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyM7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #72188 → ripasso-cursive: unstable-2019-08-27 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/JeuRb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyM5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyMj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75096 → makemkv: 1.14.5 -> 1.14.7 → https://git.io/JeyCG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #74975 → 6tunnel: init at 0.13 → https://git.io/JeDWy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyDU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75063 → googler: 3.9 -> 4.0 → https://git.io/JeyJT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyDI
<juxiemao1> why can't i send msg in to #termux channel,is it closed?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #75128 → pythonPackages.{pandas,panel,pafy,ovh,opt-einsum,oauth,numpy}: fix homepage → https://git.io/JeyoR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 7 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyD8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tomfitzhenry opened pull request #75140 → hostapd: use getrandom(2) → https://git.io/JeyDg
<ar> juxiemao1: judging by their +q list, it appears you need to be registered and identified in nickserv to be able to speak there
<ar> 093953 ─── │ [#termux] [1] $~a quieted by adams.freenode.net on Sun, 08 Sep 2019 22:17:02
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<juxiemaotu> ar: how to join them? thanks
<ar> juxiemaotu: /msg nickserv help, specifically, /msg nickserv help register
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #74959 → buildImageWithNixDb: export USER → https://git.io/JeDmN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed commit from @tomberek to master « buildImageWithNixDb: export USER (#74959) »: https://git.io/JeyDA
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<yorick> can I find the hash for a fetchGit output?
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<dasj19> hello, I'm trying to set up mDNS and I am not able to ping myhostname.local ... I have tried various avahi configurations and nssmdns
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lovesegfault opened pull request #75143 → Thunderbird: Wayland support and version bump → https://git.io/JeyyC
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<setthemfree[m]> Since jack has been updated in master, is it possible to somehow re-run the CI checks on this PR to see if the arm build succeeds? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/74331
<{^_^}> #74331 (by yurkobb, 1 week ago, open): ffmpeg-full: enable jack
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner merged pull request #75130 → cura suite: 4.3.0 -> 4.4.0 → https://git.io/JeyoA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyy2
<srhb> setthemfree[m]: It looks like grahamcofborg already ran?
<srhb> Oh, on master..
<srhb> I don't remember if gcofborg merges on its own, but otherwise one could always rebase on master.
<setthemfree[m]> srhb: When I submitted the PR and it ran the CI checks, master included an older version of jack that was broken on arm. Okay, I'll try
<setthemfree[m]> Thanks
<srhb> setthemfree[m]: (I already triggered the build) :)
<danderson> very confused: seems like setting environment.noXlibs=true in a nixos container is causing it to recompile a ton of Qt libraries
<setthemfree[m]> srhb: thanks!
<danderson> which... is the opposite of what I was hoping from trying to turn off X
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner pushed to master « curaPlugins.octoprint: 3.5.8 -> 3.5.11 »: https://git.io/Jeyyr
<danderson> ah, hrm. Grafana apparently wants to use Qt, so if I disable X libs, nixos tries to recompile most of Qt without X support. That's... not ideal.
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<srhb> danderson: We would probably need a version of phantomjs2 without qt for that, if that's even possible
<danderson> ... what the hell is grafana doing with phantomjs
<srhb> danderson: No idea, but it's in its closure :-)
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe it runs tests on itself using it?
<danderson> no, it's installing phantomjs
<danderson> digging now
<srhb> danderson: The last line of the grafana postInstall is: ln -sf ${phantomjs2}/bin/phantomjs $bin/share/grafana/tools/phantomjs/phantomjs
<danderson> ... ah. It uses it to render graphs server-side, so it can optionally serve them as png
<MichaelRaskin> Hm, that sounds pretty deliberate
<danderson> since the graphs are usually client-side JS goop, it needs a browser to do the rendering
<danderson> so... phantomjs
<srhb> Maybe that feature is optional?
<MichaelRaskin> Because of course the magic of gnuplot has never graced them
<danderson> it's optional, yeah. Just not in the nixos thingy
<srhb> Could easily be made so :)
<danderson> ah, and it's deprecated :)
<danderson> "PhantomJS is deprecated since Grafana v6.4 and will be removed in a future release. Please migrate to Grafana image renderer plugin or remote rendering service."
<srhb> Even better!
<danderson> looking at what this image renderer pluging is about, if I can figure out how to drop that in I'll send a PR
<srhb> danderson++
<{^_^}> danderson's karma got increased to 1
<danderson> ew, the "image rendering plugin" is nodejs and Chromium bundled into one big bag of poop
<danderson> and dropped into grafana's directories
<danderson> so, that's not going to help cut down on the amount of graphics libraries required.
<Yaniel> so basically the same as phantomjs?
<srhb> danderson: But could still be made optional
<srhb> (Presumably)
<danderson> yup, but phantomjs is unmaintained. The project basically shut down when Chromium added a builtin headless mode. The new plugin uses that headless mode.
<srhb> Sounds OK.
<danderson> so, hm. Need to think about how to make this optional
<danderson> I'm thinking create a new package for just the rendering plugin (dependent on the main grafana package), and then add appropriate knobs to the nixos module?
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<srhb> danderson: The "dropping into directories" part could probably be done with a `grafana-with-rendering` thing that takes the built grafana and symlink joins it with the rendering thingabob
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<srhb> danderson: Meaning (hopefully) that the NixOS module doesn't need changes.
<danderson> oh, right, everything's immutable. Hmm.
<danderson> stupid immutability :P
<srhb> It's good for you :P
<srhb> At least I'd prefer only altering the package, if possible
<danderson> ok, so, one "grafana" package and one "grafana-with-rendering" package
<MichaelRaskin> For example, it reminds you that rendering graph via headless Chromium instead of gnuplot is not a good idea
<srhb> Or a switch to the existing package, yeah
<danderson> and then in the nixos module, you select the package you want with the existing package directive
<srhb> danderson: Right.
<srhb> danderson: Ideally package = pkgs.grafana.override { serverSideRendering = true; } -- imo.
<MichaelRaskin> I Chromium headless will dominate the rest of the package both in size and in build time, so yeah, just a switch sounds enough
<MichaelRaskin> I guess
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NinjaTrappeur opened pull request #75146 → hostapd: 2.8 -> 2.9 → https://git.io/JeyyM
<danderson> alternatively, maybe headless chromium is lightweight enough that it can just get unconditionally added in
<danderson> phantom is heavy because it's doing... something with Qt and whatnot
<srhb> danderson: I doubt it :P
<srhb> And I for one would like to be able to disable it.
<danderson> ugh FINE :P
<srhb> ;-)
<srhb> I need an aarch builder... Or for someone else to fix https://hydra.nixos.org/build/107916298
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<danderson> okay, I'll need to sleep on it. Building this plugin involves some whacky javascript nonsense I'm unfamiliar with
<danderson> and a bunch of nix stuff I've forgotten since my last PR
<srhb> danderson: Sleep well :) Let us know if you need any help.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #73908 → Update php packages → https://git.io/Jeifu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu pushed 16 commits to master: https://git.io/JeySt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #75142 → python3Packages.jsonrpc-websocket: Fix build → https://git.io/JeyDD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeySq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #75113 → nixos/apache-httpd: fix typo in extraConfig description → https://git.io/JeyuU
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<asheshambasta> So, being a noob, I'm totally stuck trying to set up a static IP address for my nixos system
<asheshambasta>
<srhb> asheshambasta: Alright, what did you try? :)
<asheshambasta> I've tried things as suggested in this https://pwan.org/blog/nixos-installation-stumbling-blocks.html (see the end); and the system rebuilds successfully, but then nothing changes if I see ifconfig.
<srhb> asheshambasta: https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-ipv4 to start out with..
<asheshambasta> https://i.imgur.com/Qa6LLaP.png -- I also see a warning about an option being renamed
<srhb> asheshambasta: Yes, that blog post looks old.
<srhb> asheshambasta: Anyway, what is your interface called, and what did you write in your configuration?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #75134 → gnuplot_qt: Use qt mkDerivation → https://git.io/Jey1U
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeySC
<asheshambasta> I'm assuming the "eth0" needs to be replaced with the correct interface name?
<srhb> asheshambasta: That's right.
<srhb> asheshambasta: Please user the proper, current options as per the manual and the options reference to start with :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @andersk to release-19.09 « gnuplot_qt: Use qt mkDerivation »: https://git.io/JeySB
<srhb> asheshambasta: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#networking.interfaces.
<srhb> It's probably not your current issue though
<srhb> At a guess, since you're enabling networkmanager, you probably want to blacklist that interface in networkmanager so it doesn't take it over
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<asheshambasta> srhb: okay, however, changing it as per the latest documentation gives me an error too: not of type `list of submodules`
<srhb> asheshambasta: What did you write exactly?
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<srhb> asheshambasta: Both those say ip4, not ipv4
<asheshambasta> srhb: ah, I missed that
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<MichaelRaskin> danderson: Chromium build is _the_ slowest build in my entire system, and it doesn't look like UI parts take the longest there
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<danderson> MichaelRaskin: in the case of phantomjs, the problem is disabling X libs. There doesn't appear to be a cached version to Qt without X libs, so it has to recompile a bunch of expensive C++
<danderson> no idea if that would happen with chromium. I'm hoping I can persuade the grafana plugin to use an external chromium binary, and just give it the existing chromium package
<MichaelRaskin> Ah, that might work for the channel.
<asheshambasta> srhb: okay, I've done: blacklisting this interface for networkmanager; adding the static ip config. I guess I need to restart this interface for changes to take effect since rebuilding just by itself doesn't seem to do that.
<MichaelRaskin> But Chromium is also huge and heavy
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<srhb> asheshambasta: That's possible, I'm not sure if networkmanager does something graceful here.
<MichaelRaskin> I wonder if any of the last-three-years Chromium bugs are exploitable in the Grafana scenario (there are reasons to hope that no)
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<asheshambasta> However, (and this probably has to do with networking in linux in general), I'm a little confused by the design of things: one part of the system lets you say you want static IP addr. etc. and another part of the system will silently keep overriding this unless you're aware that it does.
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<srhb> asheshambasta: Yes, in an ideal world that wouldn't be the case, but adding too much logic to modules (networkmanager and networking.interfaces in this case) is also very error prone
<srhb> So there's some responsibility on the user here.
<srhb> We haven't confirmed that that truly was the issue, but I know that what you did is certainly incompatible in interesting ways.
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<asheshambasta> srhb: agreed, I'm also of the opinion on solving this at the level of "nixos" wouldn't be ideal.
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<srhb> asheshambasta: Right. It's a tricky tradeoff :)
<asheshambasta> brb, rebooting my interface
<asheshambasta> srhb: ifup/down also seems to be broken on nixos (it looks in /etc/network/interfaces) to bring an interface up/down.
<srhb> asheshambasta: Pretty sure they're very deprecated.
<srhb> asheshambasta: All that stuff is managed with iproute2, so the "ip ..." command set
<asheshambasta> ah okay
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<srhb> asheshambasta: I'm not even sure why you have those commands available.
<srhb> asheshambasta: You may have added an old package to your systempackages somewhere.
<evils> i'm looking for help in overriding the version, rev and sha256 for of these packages, from the the unstable.nix that uses this, https://git.io/JeySo
<srhb> asheshambasta: Possibly ifconfig.
<asheshambasta> ```╰─$ ifdown enp4s0
<asheshambasta> ```
<asheshambasta> nix-env -iA nixos.busybox
<asheshambasta> The program ‘ifdown’ is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
<asheshambasta> :-)
<srhb> Yeah, that's a horrible suggestion from command-not-found :P
<srhb> But it's not smart. :)
<asheshambasta> hehe
<srhb> You should probably undo that :)
<asheshambasta> just did
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<srhb> asheshambasta: If you're on the default scripted network setup, you can probably do `systemctl restart network-addresses-enp4s0`
<asheshambasta> srhb: just did that, but that didn't really cause my ip to change
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<srhb> asheshambasta: What does this say: `cat /run/nixos/network/addresses/enp4s0` ?
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<asheshambasta> that looks correct: `192.168.0.200/24`
<asheshambasta>
<srhb> asheshambasta: In that case I suspect there's still some stateful component messing with the interface, dhcpcd maybe. Possibly a reboot is warranted?
<asheshambasta> yeah, but networking is a giant mess on linux :-)
<asheshambasta> on any OS, for that matter.
<srhb> It gets better with systemd-networkd, but that's probably only the default from 20.03 and forward
<srhb> Anyway, if you can, it's probably easiest to try a reboot rather than manually sorting this out.
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<asheshambasta> srhb: so yeah, a reboot fixed things for me
<asheshambasta> overall I think quirks like these (linux networking) is what stumps newcomers to linux
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<asheshambasta> and I find it pretty amazing that even these quirks get faithfully "translated" via nix.
<srhb> asheshambasta: Yes. As said, I think things get a lot better with systemd-networkd
<gnidorah> what do you think of these? #68301 #74722
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/68301 (by gnidorah, 12 weeks ago, open): cdesktopenv: init at 2019-11-30
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/74722 (by gnidorah, 1 week ago, open): mame: 0.215 -> 0.216
<srhb> asheshambasta: But network-manager is still crazyland, unfortunately. :)
<asheshambasta> srhb: yeah, that's clear to me now :-)
<srhb> asheshambasta: It does all sorts of magical "fire up a dhcpcd for this interface and forget about it" shenanigans
<srhb> asheshambasta: It's hard for NixOS to tame it.
<srhb> But I'm glad you got it working. Hopefully there's not too many of these surprises as you get going.
<asheshambasta> srhb: I'm absolutely loving NixOS so far; and yeah, I'd have had these hiccups in any distro. I'm still happy I had it via the consistent Nix as the interface.
<MichaelRaskin> Fun part is, once you are comfortable with the level _below_ network-manager, it's completely understandable and predictable and doesn't really change over a decade if you don't want the new features
<srhb> asheshambasta: Glad to hear it. :)
<srhb> MichaelRaskin: That's true. And it's not like networkd is all smooth sailing, but it is a lot more declarative than the scripted stuff.
<srhb> Or rather, it's more declarative out of the box, with us needing to do less work...
<MichaelRaskin> There are quite a few places where with good knowledge of the lower level writing pure-imperative description from scratch is just less work than writing a declarative description
<asheshambasta> what extra features does network-manager offer anyway?
<srhb> asheshambasta: It's the user facing side of network management, usually mostly used for the "click this widget to join wifi" functionality
<MichaelRaskin> No, I meant the _real_ new features. Like the new types of tunnels
<MichaelRaskin> (on the kernel level)
<srhb> MichaelRaskin: Ah, yes.
<asheshambasta> I see, and some commands to manage interfaces / join wifi networks etc. AFAICS
<srhb> asheshambasta: Yes. Frankly, I find it mostly worse than not having it for everything non-wifi
<srhb> asheshambasta: But for wifi, I really don't want to do the manual dance.
<srhb> So I disable it for everything but my wifi interfaces
<srhb> (By using a whitelist)
<asheshambasta> I must say that I find the `nmcli dev wifi` commands really handy
<srhb> Agreed. I use nmtui for wifi
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<MichaelRaskin> I just enabled open networks in wpa_supplicant.conf (with a very low priority)
<`_> As an aside: I currently have all of my wifi SSIDs and PSKs in my configuration.nix. Is there a better way to handle that?
<srhb> asheshambasta: I do this: networking.networkmanager.unmanaged = [ "*" "except:interface-name:wlp*" ];
<srhb> asheshambasta: (Blacklist everything, then allow wlp-named devices)
<`_> I also do not use networkmanager.
<`_> Oh
<srhb> `_: Dealing with secrets is usually really painful on NixOS. I'm not sure there's a good way to do it aside from pointing at a file you manage outside of Nix.
<`_> I see I don't even need an answer for that one.
<MichaelRaskin> I think you can just keep wpa_supplicant.conf somewhere outside the store
<`_> Quite possibly
<MichaelRaskin> Yeah, an isolated VCS repository is actually a _good_ way to store simple enough configuration
<`_> Or let networkmanager handle the wireless interface and nothing else
<srhb> `_: Yeah, that's what I settled for.
<`_> As I see from what you wrote earlier\
<srhb> :)
<MichaelRaskin> I think by now I am in a situation where using networkmanager for wifi would be actual work for me
<srhb> I must say, despite all my gripes, it's not given me a lot of trouble after doing the above.
<`_> That sounds like bad ideas
<MichaelRaskin> Because open networks, wpa_supplicant takes them automatically
<srhb> I hardly ever deal with it.
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<MichaelRaskin> Simple essid/psk, adding four lines to a text file is not hard
<asheshambasta> is it possible also to have this work where on an interface, I use a static ip address when I'm home and a dynamic one when I'm on other networks?
<`_> In my case, yes, wpa_supplicant does everything automatically behind my back which is great, but I'd rather not have those PSKs in my public configuration.nix
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<MichaelRaskin> Complicated eduroam setup? There is a high chance that they actually provide a script somewhere which can be pried open to extract wpa_supplicant network block! Good luck fighting the today's version of UI
<MichaelRaskin> Yes, sure, wpa_supplicant.conf is outside the store
<MichaelRaskin> Because why it would be inside, VCS is good enough
<srhb> asheshambasta: I think the easiest way, if you can live with it, is to have dhcp enabled on the interface as well as the static IP.
<srhb> At least, if it works like I think it does and just adds an address.
<`_> My wpa_supplicant.conf is built by my configuration.nix currently, as far as I'm aware
<MichaelRaskin> Once I went away from mainline NixOS, I never have to wonder if it works without conflicts…
<srhb> :P
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<`_> Actually at the moment it's not, it's commented out because I'm using Pantheon instead of i3
<MichaelRaskin> At the low level, it is actually clear what imperative stuff changes (and I flush the state often enough)
<`_> So I can play a specific game that works well in Pantheon but works terribly in i3
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<srhb> `_: Can you describe the badness?
<`_> But yeah moving that all to a private file seems ideal, I guess.
<`_> srhb: in i3 the when the mouse cursor escapes the screen of the game, it no longer responds within the game.
<`_> I have a dual-monitor setup.
<`_> With Pantheon the issue does arise, but all I need to do is pause and unpause and it's fixed.
<srhb> Not sure how to workaround that. I've experienced it in xmonad as well.. Usually windowed mode is the only thing that helps.
<`_> I did xmonad for a while but I'm not a Haskeller currently
<`_> I can do some nix for sure but Haskell is like all... Monadic and stuff
<srhb> Right, I just meant it's a problem in most tiling WMs as far as I know
<`_> Fair
<`_> I can imagine that you could have a special case where if a screen is running wine you could trap the cursor in that screen, but I'm not quite there yet
<`_> I'll let you know in 5 years when I am.
<srhb> Isn't that a wine feature anyway
<srhb> I vaguely remember something like that in winecfg
<`_> Oh it could be
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<`_> I honestly havent really played around with winecfg
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<srhb> Worth a look.
<MichaelRaskin> I think I don't remember stuff like that (and I use only tiling WMs)
<MichaelRaskin> But maybe not enough Wine
<`_> Admittedly I'm quite content with Prometheus (as a primarily Mac user), however my love for TWMs brings me back to i3 when I'm not playing vidja
<MichaelRaskin> But I also have focus switches separate from mouse
<`_> Well look at mr fancy here
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<MichaelRaskin> Hey, keyboard focus separate from mouse is crazy convenient in some cases!
<`_> Yeah I can imagine, I have yet to set something like that up
<srhb> I do that too. But I also teleport my mouse to whatever monitor I have focused.
<srhb> Which may make things bad.
<MichaelRaskin> I have a separate binding for that
<`_> I'm also using a mouse with terrible linux support
<MichaelRaskin> How is this even achieved?? It is not a USB HID device of type mouse?
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<`_> It is, but it's got significantly more than your standard mouse.
<`_> And by that I mean 15 buttons.
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<MichaelRaskin> Why cannot people just register these as a USB HID keyboard with media buttons, sigh
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<`_> Because I'm a l337 h4x0r
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<iamfraggle> hello
<genesis> yo iamfraggle
<iamfraggle> Is this the place to ask about NixOS configuration?
<genesis> yeap
<srhb> iamfraggle: Pretty much all things Nix :)
<iamfraggle> cool cool
<genesis> except nixstore trolling
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #75151 → starship: 0.27.0 -> 0.28.0 → https://git.io/Jey9h
<iamfraggle> dare I ask what nixstore trolling is?
<genesis> complain about is size :D
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<srhb> I think that's actually on-topic as well, but phrasing is important. ;-)
<genesis> ^^
<iamfraggle> fair enough - anyone here have any experience with ntfs user mapping?
<srhb> A little. Go ahead and ask your question to the channel, maybe some of us can help, but it's easier to tell once you've asked :-)
<genesis> that's irc rule #1
<genesis> don't ask to ask, just ask.
<iamfraggle> okay - I'll start with: which package is the ntfs-3g.usermap in? I have the ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs packages installed, but not able to find the command.
<iamfraggle> *the ntfs-3g.usermap command
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #75152 → emplace: 0.2.7 -> 0.2.8 → https://git.io/JeyHv
<genesis> if i remember, there is a magic command to search file in (non-)installed package
<genesis> or/and a bot command
<srhb> ,locate bin/ntfs3g.usermap
<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
<srhb> On the cli it's nix-index/nix-locate
<srhb> There's a bin called ntfsusermap in ntfs3g.out
<srhb> Presumably that's the command you want
<genesis> oki , i should note that in a tips in my notes.
<genesis> thx
<iamfraggle> ok - thanks I'll give that a try
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyHT
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<iamfraggle> lol - 60000 paths left to queue for nix-index, I could be here a while!
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<srhb> iamfraggle: Yes, it needs to query hydra for package contents, there's no way to know what a derivation contains before buildint it.
<genesis> usefull database btw.
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<srhb> iamfraggle: But I think the file you want is called ntfsusermap and is from the ntfs3g package :)
<iamfraggle> I already have the ntfs3g package installed, but I don't seem to have that command, although I do have a man page for it, strangely enough
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<srhb> iamfraggle: That's weird, what version of nixos are you on? `nixos-version`
<iamfraggle> 19.09
<srhb> iamfraggle: The above command gives you an exact commit ref at the end :)
<srhb> (So I can check that exact version)
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<iamfraggle> 19.09.1484.84586a4514d (Loris)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 closed pull request #74358 → alacritty: use hiPrio (fix #71300) → https://git.io/JeXVJ
<srhb> Indeed, according to this comand it's not there: ls $(nix-build https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/84586a4514d.tar.gz -A ntfs3g --no-out-link)/bi
<srhb> Maybe we should backport #51514 to 19.09
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/51514 (by leo60228, 1 year ago, merged): ntfs-3g: enable extras
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<mudri> It seems that `services.xserver.synaptics` broke, and I'm being forced onto `libinput`. Is there an easy way to translate my settings? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xC0Kpips/
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb opened pull request #75154 → Backport [19.09]: ntfs3g: enable extras (#51514) → https://git.io/JeyHm
<srhb> iamfraggle: ^
<iamfraggle> ok - good to know, I'll wait for the outcome of that. Thanks.
<srhb> iamfraggle: Or you can override it locally
<srhb> iamfraggle: If you install it via your configuration.nix, you can do: `nixpkgs.overlays = [ (self: super: { ntfs3g = super.ntfs3g.overrideAttrs (oa: { configureFlags = oa.configureFlags ++ ["--enable-extras"]; });`
<srhb> ack, I failed to terminate that list properly. That, but corrected. ;-)
<iamfraggle> Ahh, I'll look into that too, thanks again
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<iamfraggle> Once I've got it up and running I'll look into how I might generate the mapping automatically from configuration.nix
<srhb> iamfraggle: Neat :)
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<genesis> ,locate sgt-puzzle-galaxies
<{^_^}> Found in packages: sgtpuzzles
<genesis> excellent puzzle :D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bergey opened pull request #75157 → nano: upstream patch fixes build on MacOS → https://git.io/JeyQ9
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<lirzhv> can packages be installed (via nix-env) in the nixos installer?
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<lirzhv> i ran the nix-env command 5 minutes ago and nothing is printed/displayed on the screen
<lirzhv> not sure if this is an issue with my vm or if i`m doing it wrong...
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<emmanuelrosa> lirzhv, yes you can but the changes to the nix store will be made in RAM. Last time I tried, it was slow indeed. You may be better off building an installer image with the packages you want, already included.
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<lirzhv> emmanuelrosa: makes sense. regarding the custom installer, this is my first time taking a stab at nixos, so i think that topic is a bit too advanced for me :p
<lirzhv> or is there something in the manual about how to make one?
<exarkun> there is, and it may be much easier than you expect
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #75135 → vim-vint: 0.3.20 -> 0.3.21 → https://git.io/Jey1I
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jey7m
<lirzhv> i am currently reading https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-installation is this the right page?
<exarkun> pretty close. https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-building-cd is what I was thinking of
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<lirzhv> ah very nice, i`ll take a look at those then. thank you
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<rawkode> 👋
<emmanuelrosa> lirzhv, yep, follow the section on building a cd. Say you go with 'installation-minimal-cd.nix', just add a environment.systemPackages list, like you would with a normal NixOS configuration. Here's an example: https://gist.github.com/emmanuelrosa/31ed87d306674be52e317e2024feca02
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<ashesham`> So I'm in a bit of trouble: I upgraded 19.03 -> 19.09 and I was using kernel 5_1. The latest kernel on 19.09 is 5_3 which has some bugs that causes my system to hard lock and then crash.
<ashesham`> 19.09 removed 5_1 from linuxPackages; but I'd like to ideally use 19.09 but use the 5_1 kernel.
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<ashesham`> is there something I can do? I've checked with my hardware: I've run memtests etc. and it all checks out; the hardware seems to be ok. Moreover; I was not experiencing these crashes on 5_1.
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<gchristensen> you can't use 5_1, because kernel.org / Linux doesn't support or maintain 5.1 anymore. you could try if 5_3 is not good for you, you could try 5_4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b merged pull request #74376 → doc/contributing: mention icons & themes folders → https://git.io/JeXo8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b pushed to master « doc/contributing: mention icons & themes folders »: https://git.io/Jey78
<ashesham`> I don't think I can pick a version anymore.
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<ashesham`> these are all the kernels available: https://i.imgur.com/ud6AglC.png
<ashesham`> also; on nixos I cannot really access the syslogs, can I?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #75151 → starship: 0.27.0 -> 0.28.0 → https://git.io/Jey9h
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jey7a
<ashesham`> is there a way I can still use 5_1?
<srhb> ashesham`: What logs are you looking for? Most is in journald
<srhb> ashesham`: You can't use 5_1 on 19.09 without readding it yourself. Maybe try the stable kernel instead?
<srhb> LTS, I should say.
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<ashesham`> just something that would help me on seeing what the problem is that causes the system to lock up and crash
<srhb> (Which is the default if you don't set the option)
<srhb> ashesham`: depends when the crash happens.
<srhb> ashesham`: journalctl -k will give you the kernel log
<ashesham`> srhb: usually right after waking the system up after sleep
<srhb> Problem with crashes is that it may not get written to disk.
<ashesham`> yeah
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<ashesham`> its quite a pain to debug crashes in linux though, so much so that it makes BSOD seem like a great idea (jk)
<ashesham`> on my hardware, which is new, most issues I'm experiencing are issues on resume from sleep; the system seems to be okay for a bit and then it crashes: either the display gets corrupt and then X stops responding (in that case I can still drop to tty and reboot); or the whole system freezes and I cannot even ssh into this machine
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Jey7o
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<emmanuelrosa> ashesham, can you post a link to your (sanitized) NixOS configuration?
<ashesham`> brb: I need to reboot.
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<asheshambasta> back
<viric> damn it. anyone with a logitech K120 keyboard?
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<infinisil> genesis: Just tried it, yeah it's pretty cool :o
<skrzyp> Anyone did a Nix function for packaging wine applications/games in spirit of mkDerivation?
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<betawaffle> from inside a nixos module (something imported with imports = [ ... ]), how can i refer back to something from the whole finished configuration, from an expression?
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<kisonecat> betawaffle: from the module, access the config parameter?
<betawaffle> an argument to my file's function, right?
<betawaffle> { config }: ...
<kisonecat> betawaffle: yes. here's an example from nixops: https://github.com/Doenet/devops/blob/master/vultr.nix
<betawaffle> thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #75148 → vimPlugins: update → https://git.io/JeySK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jey5w
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau merged pull request #74767 → twinkle: init at 1.10.2 → https://git.io/Je1py
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jey51
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #75159 → [r19.09] libofx: add patch for CVE-2019-9656 → https://git.io/Jey5S
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #74385 → fwup: 1.3.1 -> 1.5.0 → https://git.io/JeX6L
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #74874 → kitty: fix loading of library → https://git.io/JeM1o
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jey5h
<evanjs> What do I need for TB support? Just userspace drivers e.g. nixpkgs.thunderbolt in systemPackages, or?
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<evanjs> I had to get drivers from LaCie on Windows, not sure if anything as specific is needed here
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #75104 → openafs_1_8: 1.8.3 -> 1.8.5 → https://git.io/Jeylt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @andersk to master « openafs_1_8: 1.8.3 -> 1.8.5 (#75104) »: https://git.io/Jeydq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko closed pull request #62262 → lib/make-ext4: bump fudge factor to 96 MiB → https://git.io/fj0ir
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<genesis> infinisil : after a month playing this at hospital, i'm a bit good at it :D
<genesis> after more tja, 2 months at hospital, i'm home again \o/
<genesis> and i'm pretty nixos addict and ready to put my latest force in it, best oss software after 18 years in oss !
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #75161 → zabbix: various package reference fixes → https://git.io/Jeydi
<genesis> (i'm unemplayable due to my hearth disease, so my topic are embbeded linux aka "firmware" , i used to work with openembedded and nixos needs some fantasy eyes on it)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alexbakker opened pull request #75162 → nano-wallet: 19.0 -> 20.0 → https://git.io/JeydX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « documize-community: 3.5.1 -> 3.5.2 »: https://git.io/Jeyd1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto opened pull request #75164 → neovim-unwrapped: ease hacking/development → https://git.io/JeydQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to release-19.09 « documize-community: 3.5.1 -> 3.5.2 »: https://git.io/Jeydd
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<evanjs> genesis: corworker and I just got another coworker roped into nixos and feeling the same way. Glad to see more people joining the nixos community! We need all the help we can get (esp with all the open PRs...)
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<genesis> evanjs : yes i've 10 open pR (new package) i know it's a bit fustrating
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<genesis> i think something is better than nothing, and we should be a bit more regardless on "init PR"
<evanjs> genesis: especially when you don’t really know what the issue is 🙃 (eg #73225)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/73225 (by evanjs, 3 weeks ago, open): nodePackages."@angular/cli": disable analytics
<genesis> release often ...
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<evanjs> genesis: yep. One of the reasons we’re doing so well — which is visible on sites like https://repology.org/ — most non-unique projects, up to date packages, etc
<genesis> #58594 is a good example, fenugrec told i would have drop BUILDGUI but i want it for my next project
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58594 (by bignaux, 35 weeks ago, open): freediag: init at unstable-2019-02-18
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<genesis> people who're moderating PR don't know packager agenda
<genesis> bit a more confident on them would change the game.
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<evanjs> Speaking of weird issues, yorick helped me diagnose an input issue yesterday, but does anybody know why gdm+xmonad would have suddenly stopped initializing the touchpad? Adding myself to the inputs group “fixed” it, but...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 opened pull request #75165 → kaidan: init at 0.4.1 → https://git.io/JeyFY
<evanjs> genesis: I’m probably in the same boat. Happy to make PRs but still not too confident with procedure and etc
<genesis> evanjs : it's not like we could break anything ...
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<genesis> if it's not perfect, improvement are welcome.
<evanjs> genesis: no I know. I’m pretty fearless when it comes to my own devices, but I get sorta paranoid and tend to overthink things when it comes to contributing to projects and etc
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<evanjs> Interesting... Still getting "Couldn't init device "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"", and it doesn't work in gdm, but works once xmonad launches
<evanjs> No permission denied error, either
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<evanjs> Touchpad DPI seems to be higher and scrolling seems to be slower, too.... hrm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alexbakker closed pull request #75162 → nano-wallet: 19.0 -> 20.0 → https://git.io/JeydX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bbigras opened pull request #75167 → tdb: 1.3.16 -> 1.3.18 → https://git.io/JeyFK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #75144 → linux: 5.4.1 -> 5.4.2 → https://git.io/JeyyW
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<JanitorDan> Where should $XDG_CONFIG_HOME be defined? I have `xdg.portal.enable = true; xdg.oortal.extraPortals = [ pkgs.xdg-desktop-portal-gtk ]; xdg.portal.gtkUsePortal = true;` in my configuration. But the environment variable does not get defined. Is this something I should be defining manually, or is there a config option for it?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #75161 → zabbix: various package reference fixes → https://git.io/Jeydi
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<JanitorDan> Sorry, got disconnected. Still hoping for some help with XDG_CONFIG_HOME being undefined.
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<lassulus> I don't have it defined, but if you want to devine it yourself you can do environment.variables.XDG_CONFIG_HOME = "$HOME/something";
<infinisil> JanitorDan: You don't need to define it
<infinisil> The xdg spec says that if it's unset it should have the default value of $HOME/.config
<infinisil> So no need to set it if you don't need another location than that
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<amf> How do you specify an exact kernel version to use? I only need 5.3.x generic, 5.4 breaks with virtualbox. I'm running 19.09
<JanitorDan> Hmm, then my confusion is why Herbstlufwm doesn't detect its config. By default the config is supposed to be located at $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/herbstluftwm/autostart. My config is at $HOME/.config/herbstluftwm/autostart, but it doesn't detect it.
<lassulus> amf: boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_5_3;
<JanitorDan> Nevermind. The config did not have execute permissions, which sent me down the wrong rabbit hole :( Thanks so much for the help!
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<amf> lassulus: error: attribute 'linuxPackages_5_3' missing
<lassulus> uh, let me check 19.09 packages
<amf> it was changed in 19.09 and I don't know nix well enough to know the override syntax
<lassulus> hmm, nobody backported the 5_3 to 19.09, maybe this helps: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Linux_kernel#Booting_a_kernel_from_a_custom_source
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<amf> it looks like 5.3 is already there (if i understand correctly) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/os-specific/linux/kernel/linux-5.3.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74752 → ghidra: 9.04 -> 9.1 → https://git.io/Je1FS
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<sondr3> anyone here using Haskell and cabal2nix? I cannot get doctests to run by using `cabal new-test`, I see them successfully running when I do `nix-build release.nix` however
<sondr3> when I run the command directly instead I get Could not find module ‘Data.List.Split’
<aleph-> clever: And found my issue with my nixOS setup. External usb I auto-mount apparently wasn't fully seated in...
<aleph-> Sigh
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<sondr3> oh, found my error, I had to do `cabal2nix --shell . > shell.nix` again and now it works
<sondr3> whelp, one hour out the window :D
<betaboon> anyone has a suggestion how to approach situation where you need to access files in /share of an installed package?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74828 → nixos/yggdrasil: fix for configFile option → https://git.io/JeMBb
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<clever> aleph-: if you add options = [ "nofail" ]; to the fileSystems entry, then systemd wont fail horribly when it fails to mount
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<aleph-> Oooooh, that is good to know.
<aleph-> Let me go add that
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<Church-> clever: And it works, nifty. Thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #75109 → teamspeak_server: 3.9.1 -> 3.10.2 → https://git.io/JeyR4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus closed pull request #74663 → teamspeak_server: 3.9.1 -> 3.10.1 → https://git.io/Je10K
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz opened pull request #75169 → firefox: fix indexedDB for 71.0 → https://git.io/JeyNM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74571 → libfido2: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/Je1tb
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<kai_w> how does bootstrapping compilers (e.g. GCC) work in nixpkgs? where should I start looking?
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<__marlene__> hi guys
<__marlene__> im trying to install mullvad vpn
<__marlene__> but the unit file gets dropped in /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/etc/systemd/system
<__marlene__> and systemd looks for unites in /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/lib/systemd/system
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<__marlene__> tried creating a symlink in /etc using environment.etc but it failed with permission denied
<__marlene__> also tried overriding with nixpkgs.config.packageOverrides but it didn't work
<__marlene__> how can I make systemd see the mullvad vpn unit?
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<__marlene__> tried installing with both environment.systemPackages and with nix-env -iA... same shit
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<clever> __marlene__: override the derivation to put the systemd unit at a diff path within $out
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<__marlene__> @clever that's what i'm trying
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #74305 → texlive: use texlive.info snapshot → https://git.io/JeX3O
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<__marlene__> @clever https://pastebin.com/tMtL3F8N
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<clever> __marlene__: you could just set postInstall
<__marlene__> @clever i guess?
<clever> __marlene__: what happens if you use that override?
<__marlene__> nothing
<clever> __marlene__: add an echo to it, does anything print?
<__marlene__> actually no wait
<__marlene__> I have mullvad-daemon in /run/current-system/sw/lib/systemd/system now
<__marlene__> got confused with environment.systemPackages vs. nix-env methods of installation
<andreoss> hi, i'm looking for a documentation/examples for using nix as a docker image base. i assume that having Dockerfile with bunch "RUN nix-env -iA .." is not a way to go.
<clever> __marlene__: and i think you then need to add it to systemd.packages
<clever> __marlene__: systemd stuff must go there, not nix-env or systemPackages
<__marlene__> @clever ooh
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<__marlene__> maybe that's what I was missing
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<clever> andreoss: check the docs for dockerTools.buildLayeredImage
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<snajpa> hi guys, sorry for the OT, but I know a lot of you guys are involved in some way: would anyone here have a CCC ticket you could spare?
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<snajpa> fpletz ^ maybe please? :)
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<__marlene__> @clever after adding to systemd.packages it fails to symlink - file exists
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<__marlene__> maybe I didn't need the override, just systemd.packages? let's try that
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<clever> __marlene__: also, nothing happens when you @clever, so i dont notice the messages
<__marlene__> clever: oops
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<clever> thats better
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<__marlene__> :)
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<__marlene__> clever: ok so now it finally shows up in /etc/systemd/system
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74456 → multitail: 6.4.2 -> 6.5.0 → https://git.io/JeXHA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « multitail: 6.4.2 -> 6.5.0 »: https://git.io/JeyA3
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<__marlene__> clever: aaalmost there :)))
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<__marlene__> from the logs: "The IP routing program `ip` was not found"
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<clever> you need to add iputils to the path
<__marlene__> hmmm, how?
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<clever> usually, thats done with systemd.services.something.path = [ pkgs.iputils ];
<clever> but thats for when nixos is auto-generating a unit for you
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<__marlene__> so is it worth a try?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74462 → marvin: 19.1.0 -> 19.23.0 → https://git.io/JeX7J
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<__marlene__> clever: doesn't work :(
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<clever> __marlene__: you may need nixos to auto-generate the entire unit, and ignore the one it ships with
<__marlene__> clever: yeah the unit it ships with looks pretty basic
<__marlene__> any quick way to do that?
<clever> systemd.services.something.script = "
<clever> systemd.services.something.script = "${pkgs.something}/bin/something --config ${configfile}";
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<clever> and also set wantedBy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor opened pull request #75170 → nixos/make-test: don't pick up impure overlays → https://git.io/JeyAQ
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<betaboon> why do we have the binary release of ghidra in nixpkgs? instead of built from source ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74267 → nixos/nextcloud: Do not run sudo if not needed → https://git.io/JePNd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74451 → libmaxminddb: 1.3.2 -> 1.4.2 → https://git.io/JeX9a
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<aleph-> Hmm, if I set a user systemd service via home manager is there a way I can have it not reload/restart when I run a `nixos-rebuild switch`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74231 → folly: 2019.10.21.00 -> 2019.11.11.00 → https://git.io/JePPi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74122 → airsonic: 10.4.2 -> 10.5.0 → https://git.io/JePnr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivan opened pull request #75172 → libimobiledevice: 2019-04-04 -> 2019-11-29, usbmuxd: 2019-03-05 -> 2019-11-11 → https://git.io/JeypU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74111 → abcmidi: 2019.10.13 -> 2019.11.11 → https://git.io/JePZs
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<Izorkin> ./locate sys/sysmacros.h
<Izorkin> .locate sys/sysmacros.h
<Izorkin> ,locate sys/sysmacros.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: zig, klibc, uclibc, zfs.dev, musl.dev, glibc.dev, emscripten, glibc_multi.dev, linuxPackages.zfs, glibc_memusage.dev, linuxPackages_4_4.zfs, linuxPackages_4_9.zfs, linuxPackages_4_14.zfs, linuxPackages_xen_dom0.zfs, linuxPackages_latest-libre.zfs, linuxPackages-libre.zfsUnstable, linuxPackages_hardened.zfsUnstable, linuxPackages_latest_xen_dom0.zfsUnstable, linuxPackages_testing_bcachefs.zfsUnstable, and 1 more
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #74867 → pythonPackage.progressbar2: Fix → https://git.io/JeMPh
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<ddima> aleph-: You could use `X-RestartIfChanged = false` in your unit
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<aleph-> ddima: That works, thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #73874 → NetLogo: 6.0.4 -> 6.1.1 → https://git.io/Je6Hf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @cpritcha to master « NetLogo: 6.0.4 -> 6.1.1 »: https://git.io/Jeyp4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #74364 → mnemosyne: fix application → https://git.io/JeXwe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @d-goldin to master « mnemosyne: fix application »: https://git.io/Jeypz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tobim closed pull request #74293 → cmake: 3.15.4 -> 3.16.0 → https://git.io/JeXkK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #73863 → vscodium-1.40.1 → https://git.io/Je66i
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @Synthetica9 to master « vscodium: 1.40.0 -> 1.40.1 »: https://git.io/Jeyp2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tobim reopened pull request #74293 → cmake: 3.15.4 -> 3.16.0 → https://git.io/JeXkK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed commit from @NinjaTrappeur to release-19.09 « hostapd: 2.8 -> 2.9 »: https://git.io/JeypD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Izorkin opened pull request #75173 → netdata: 1.18.1 -> 1.19.0 → https://git.io/Jeyp5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tobim opened pull request #75174 → cmake-format: 0.6.0 -> 0.6.2 → https://git.io/JeypF
<MichaelRaskin> betaboon: I would assume that whoever was packaging was already tired after packaging the binary distribution…
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Thra11 opened pull request #75175 → ark: Add package description → https://git.io/JeyhL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @acowley opened pull request #75176 → linux: fix amdgpu memory mapping with kernel >= 5.3 → https://git.io/Jeyht
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #75140 → hostapd: use getrandom(2) → https://git.io/JeyDg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyhm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed commit from @tomfitzhenry to release-19.09 « hostapd: use getrandom(2) »: https://git.io/Jeyh3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #74935 → nixos/tests/munin: port to python → https://git.io/JeDT8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyhZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Luflosi opened pull request #75177 → kitty: replace library path using patch instead of substituteInPlace → https://git.io/JeyhW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wamserma opened pull request #75178 → modules-shrunk: preserve module priorities from build → https://git.io/Jeyhl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wamserma opened pull request #75179 → modules-shrunk: preserve module priorities from build → https://git.io/JeyhR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #75174 → cmake-format: 0.6.0 -> 0.6.2 → https://git.io/JeypF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @tobim to master « cmake-format: 0.6.0 -> 0.6.2 »: https://git.io/Jeyhu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #75180 → nixosTests.pam-u2f: port test to python → https://git.io/Jeyhr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wamserma opened pull request #75181 → modules-shrunk: preserve module priorities from build → https://git.io/Jeyh6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wamserma closed pull request #75179 → modules-shrunk: preserve module priorities from build → https://git.io/JeyhR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #75177 → kitty: replace library path using patch instead of substituteInPlace → https://git.io/JeyhW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyhX
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<pbogdan> can I somehow float out the _fix argument to the top level in this expression or make it available within the arguments without it being one itself - http://ix.io/23PX/nix
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<zeta_0> i need it to do this tutorial: https://github.com/Gabriel439/haskell-nix
<infinisil> pbogdan: Not sure what you mean
<infinisil> Maybe you want to put a `let _fix = ...; in { sources ? _fix ...` around?
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<pbogdan> right, that's what I want but I don't understand how to rewrite it in that way
<pbogdan> maybe I'm doing something silly I can't return what I assume to be an anonymous function from let .. in ..
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<pbogdan> indeed, pebkac confirmed, sorry for the noise
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyjf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #75180 → nixosTests.pam-u2f: port test to python → https://git.io/Jeyhr
<gchristensen> speaking of u2f, has anyone tried applying the u2f openssh patch? :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @clefru opened pull request #75182 → apache-kafka.nix: Add missing quote inside tmpfiles rule → https://git.io/JeyjI
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<evils> i'm looking for help in overriding the version, rev and sha256 for of these packages, from the the unstable.nix that uses this, https://git.io/JeySo
<flokli> gchristensen: nope, put i'd be very interested into trying it out ;-)
<gchristensen> me too, flokli :)
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<gchristensen> flokli: looks like we have a patching standoff
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<flokli> gchristensen: are you trying to nerdsnipe me into packaging it? ;-)
<gchristensen> flokli: I think you're trying to nerd-snipe me!
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* gchristensen is already doing it .... *stare*
<flokli> very good gchristensen
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<flokli> I'll happily test your PR :-P
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<gchristensen> probably shouldn't make it part of nixpkgs until it is stable ...
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<jjulianc> Hi people. I need some help getting Nix installed on a CentOS 6 server
<jjulianc> [julian@www ~]$ bash <(curl https://nixos.org/nix/install)
<jjulianc> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
<jjulianc> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
<jjulianc> downloading Nix 2.3.1 binary tarball for x86_64-linux from 'https://nixos.org/releases/nix/nix-2.3.1/nix-2.3.1-x86_64-linux.tar.xz' to '/tmp/nix-binary-tarball-unpack.T5mHa4GN65'...
<jjulianc> 104 2399 104 2399 0 0 3599 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 21419
<jjulianc> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
<jjulianc> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
<jjulianc> 100 15.2M 100 15.2M 0 0 3231k 0 0:00:04 0:00:04 --:--:-- 3624k
<jjulianc> performing a single-user installation of Nix...
<jjulianc> copying Nix to /nix/store................................
<jjulianc> installing 'nix-2.3.1'
<evils> jjulianc: stop the spam please
<jjulianc> error: while setting up the build environment: bind mount from '/dev/full' to '/nix/store/cb6ss4jv8baxkq2pi6fnviqp9zyna73l-user-environment.drv.chroot/dev/full' failed: Permission denied
<jjulianc> I have sudo privileges, but the script does not prompt me for my password. Will I have to modify the installation script?
<clever> jjulianc: if you have write permission to /nix/ then it wont need to use sudo to install
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #74811 → buildGoModule: disable consult the checksum database on build → https://git.io/JeMGo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyjs
<jjulianc> @evils sorry about that. Didn't see that I had so much copied before sending
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<jjulianc> @clever: Thanks for helping. I'm getting the same error after chowning /nix to my user
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<gchristensen> flokli: I just lost my yubikey for like 10 minutes on the floor of my office.
<gchristensen> because I had to pull it out of my monitor for testing and it is so tiny.
<gchristensen> "Note that U2F keys are a newOpenSSH key type, so the server must support it too." ack.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #75169 → firefox: fix indexedDB for 71.0 → https://git.io/JeyNM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JeyjB
<bdju> I'm getting an error about "priority" while trying to install some packages, a conflict between `mtools` and `mkmanifest`, but the latter isn't something I was installing. It sounds like it's part of home-manager. I'm not sure what I should do here. Any advice?
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<bdju> Maybe I misread before, I'm seeing both end in mkmanifest, so it's mtools and home-manager-path maybe.
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<bdju> Okay, setting home-manager-path to a lower number wasn't doing anything, but setting mtools to a higher number got it to go through.
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