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[nixpkgs] @earksiinni opened pull request #75127 → pythonPackages.mapbox: init at 0.18.0 → https://git.io/JeyrD
<evanjs>
Sooo does anybody have an idea on what to check for my cursor disappearing on xmonad? Don't think I changed anything earlier today but I have rebuilt+upgraded
<evanjs>
currently running xmonad under gdm on 19.09
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<JanitorDan>
Hi, first time NixOS user here. I'm currently attempting to install. I have my partitioning done, and have generated my configuration.nix. The problem I'm running into is when I run `sudo nixos-install` I get the following error: "error: opening lock file '/mnt/nix/var/nix/db/big-lock': Permission denied"
<JanitorDan>
Sorry, that's the wrong error. That's what I get if I try to run it without sudo. With sudo the error is: `error: could not set permissions on '/mnt/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user' to 1777: Operation not permitted`
<x123_>
JanitorDan: does the mount output look correct (fs not mounted readonly or incorrectly mounted)?
<evils>
JanitorDan: looks like someone ran into this problem before, because /mnt was formatted to fat
<x123_>
yeah doubt that is going to work if it is FAT
<x123_>
maybe you have a boot partition as FAT incorreclty mounted as root, not sure without seeing more info
<JanitorDan>
Thank you! You're absolutely right. I somehow mixed up and formatted my boot partition xfs, and my root partition fat.
<JanitorDan>
No way that was going to work, haha.
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<JanitorDan>
Installation is moving along smoothly now.
<exarkun>
but I ran out of week in which to investigate how or why :/
<exarkun>
hoping I'm lucky and somebody else has a clue
<JanitorDan>
x123_: My problem is resolved, but in case you were asking out of curiosity, CPU: Ryzen 2600, GPU: Vega 56, 16GB RAM, Intel 512GB NVMe SSD.
<JanitorDan>
No pesky Nvidia drivers to deal with.
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<JanitorDan>
Initial boot is a success :D
<x123_>
nice, planning on it as a desktop or server?
<JanitorDan>
Desktop. Though the reproducibility of the package management makes it tempting for server use.
<x123_>
very cool, I've been loving it on the laptop...
<JanitorDan>
I know a few people who installed NixOS recently, and have had nothing but good things to say, so I'm giving it a fair shot. It was pretty impressive when they showed me how easy it was to generate a vm image of their own system.
<x123_>
I've been using various BSDs/*NIXes over 20ish years, really liking the Nix experience so far. Let's see how it pans out :)
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeyo9
<evanjs>
Bah. Anybody have an easy/idiomatic example to override kernel version for linux_latest to 5.3? Or is there an easier option I'm missing? I don't see any expressions for 5 outside of latest in tree
<clever>
evanjs: rather then override linux_latest, just set boot.kernelPackages to linuxPackages_5_3
<clever>
evanjs: it will only exist in nixos-unstable, but you can still mix that into stable
<evanjs>
clever: Yah I just checked top-level and saw it there. Should've used `nix search` as since I added all those channels to my NIX_PATH, it would've shown up there (I was using eval with no extra options)
<lovesegfault>
Why doesn't something like this work? `nix-build . -A 'beets.override { enableCheck = true; }'`
<lovesegfault>
(trying to test a new plugin option in a pkg
<lovesegfault>
cc. clever
<clever>
lovesegfault: -A can only accept an attribute path, you want -E
<lovesegfault>
:O
<evanjs>
`boot.kernelPackages = lib.mkForce pkgs.nixos-unstable.linuxPackages_5_3;` much better
<clever>
evanjs: you shouldnt need an mkForce
<evanjs>
Well _I_ do haha. That's in a machine level config, and I have my desktop profile defaulting to linux_latest
<lovesegfault>
clever: clever How do I tell nix-build -E to use my local nixpkgs and not the upstream one (channel)?
<evanjs>
this is the only laptop so I'm leaving the others alone for now
<aleph->
Well that's fun. Somehow nixOS can't mount my root device anymore.
<aleph->
Sigh, time to get a recovery stick I guess.
<cryptomonad>
I just tried the newest unstable iso - this worked. So there seems to be something wonky with the current iso and creating bootable usb drives for UEFI
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<yorick>
aleph-: what does it say?
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<aleph->
yorick: Unable to find /dev/disk/... for /
<aleph->
Well it was / or /mnt
<yorick>
do you have a raid setup?
<aleph->
I do not
<yorick>
did you change bios settings?
<aleph->
Nope
<clever>
aleph-: is the disk on usb, sata, or nvme?
<yorick>
dansho: what's what I do. note that your system will still work like this
<yorick>
juxiemaotu: that sounds right
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<juxiemaotu>
another question,how to msg you with name highlight?
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<juxiemaotu>
just like i can see your message by prompt
<juxiemaotu>
i am a newer for using weechat
<yorick>
juxiemaotu: type yo and then hit tab
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: is that?
<yorick>
yes
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: i get it ,thanks
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: it is useful
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<evanjs>
yorick: tried going back a week or two and that doesn't seem to do anything. I do wonder what the lowest level I could check would be tho. Not sure what to look for in dmesg or journalctl or etc
<clever>
lovesegfault: is it in the propagatedBuildInputs of something that is in beet's buildInputs?
<lovesegfault>
clever: if A depends on B and B propagates C, will having A in my env mean I have C?
<clever>
only if you open the shell suitable for building A
<clever>
if you open a shell with a built copy of A, you wont get C
<clever>
enless A also propagates B
<lovesegfault>
hmmm
<evanjs>
Anybody else's touchpad cursor not working on xmonad? Not sure what else to look at right now, especially since evtest seems to indicate it's functional
<evanjs>
*cursor not appearing/can't use touchpad
<lovesegfault>
clever: Darnit
<lovesegfault>
Even if I add flac to beet's propagatedBuildInputs I don't see it in the shell
<lovesegfault>
last one is a patch if you want to test
<clever>
lovesegfault: you can also edit an existing gist
<evanjs>
yup. touchpad further confirmed working via gpm. Going to take a look at xmonad, next...
<clever>
lovesegfault: you also have a cycle, sorta
<lovesegfault>
clever: How?
<clever>
lovesegfault: beets-check depends on beets, which depends on beets-check, that should fail
<clever>
lovesegfault: but the defaults beets doesnt have enableCheck
<lovesegfault>
the other plugins do it
<clever>
so beets-check depends on the non-check version of beets
<lovesegfault>
yes
<clever>
and the check version of beets depends on the beets-check
<lovesegfault>
it uses beets only as a lib
<lovesegfault>
and creates a bin-plugin of beets
<clever>
and python packages propagate the PYTHONPATH, so the non-check-beets version may override the check-beets
* lovesegfault
's brain explodes
<clever>
lovesegfault: also, your already adding flac in both files, so it should already be present
<lovesegfault>
clever: Exactly
<lovesegfault>
but it ain't
<clever>
2019-12-07 01:39:49 < clever> Miyu-saki: there is an optional strict mode, that wont put the normal buildInputs into PATH
<clever>
2019-12-07 01:40:04 < clever> Miyu-saki: so you can simulate some cross-compile issues, without actually cross-compiling
<clever>
lovesegfault: depending on how things are done in python, the normal buildInputs may not wind up in PATH
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<lovesegfault>
How?
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<lovesegfault>
OH
<lovesegfault>
I think you are correct
<clever>
not sure, i havent looked into the internals of the python code yet
<clever>
and i should get to bed, its nearly 2am now
<lovesegfault>
none of the prop'd inputs are on PATH
<lovesegfault>
clever: Definitely, gnight and thanks again!
<clever>
there is also a propagatedNativeBuildInputs
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<juxiemaotu>
yorick: i had mv the file,but it does'nt work
<evanjs>
hmmm here's some stuff -- "Couldn't init device "ETPS/2 Elantech Tocuhpad" -- wonder if this is related
<evanjs>
xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mouse1
<evanjs>
Permission denied
<yorick>
evanjs: yes, that sounds related
<juxiemaotu>
yorick:i think ,there is a lock file for download,so it locked
<evils>
when running my kicad nix package on debian, i'm getting an error from python, `no module named 'math'`, anyone know what could cause this difference between nixos and debian?
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<juxiemaotu>
yorick: emm, can i use axel instead of curl which used by nix-channel or nixos-rebuild?
<yorick>
clever: can you just nix-prefetch-url these tarballs?
<yorick>
evils: it importing some ancient python version from debian, maybe?
<evils>
yorick: i believe i'm using python38 from nix
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<yorick>
evils: try fatrace to see where it is looking
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<evanjs>
mmkay, enabling debug messages for gdm as that came up from gdm-x-session, which was either services**gdm or home-manager**xsession, I would think
<yorick>
evanjs: you could work around it by adding yourself to the input group, I suppose
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<juxiemaotu>
Can i use axel instead of curl which used by nix-channel or nixos-rebuild?
<evils>
yorick: hadn't heard of fatrace, looks /nix/store/7vaz4a8fzxm57qmx6iycx5lyzjy9wr3b-kicad-5.1.5/lib/python3.8/site-packages uses /usr/lib/python3.8
<evils>
s/looks/looks like/
<yorick>
juxiemaotu: I think you can do it manually but I don't really know how
<evanjs>
yorick: ahh didn't realize I wasn't but yeah lemme see
<yorick>
evanjs: you're not really supposed to be nowadays
<evanjs>
yorick: yah that's what I figured. Seems to fix it but I'm not sure why that happened in the first place
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<evanjs>
probably unrelated, but my touchpad feels like it's super accelerated now. Can't imagine it was #72774 but bah. I'll just adjust that
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[nixpkgs] @lovesegfault opened pull request #75136 → beets/check-plugin: init at 0.12.0 → https://git.io/Jey1V
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<juxiemaotu>
yorick: i find this in nixos manual,how to config it ? services.aria2.enable
<yorick>
juxiemaotu: it won't help you with the tar thing
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: i think i can make the download speed faster
<yorick>
juxiemaotu: do you think it times out before 30 seconds?
<lovesegfault>
How do I make my patches apply?
<yorick>
lovesegfault: patches = []
<lovesegfault>
I added it to patches = [ ./my_patch.patch ]
<lovesegfault>
but it doesn't apply
<lovesegfault>
(resulting sources are broken
<yorick>
lovesegfault: do you override the build phases?
<lovesegfault>
nope
<lovesegfault>
yorick: I need the patches before checks, fwiw
<yorick>
lovesegfault: checks are last
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: i mean,when i use axel,the download time is about 30seconds. but when update or upgrade,the nixos download speed is about 20kbi/sec
<juxiemaotu>
yorick: it too slowly,need change the download tools
<setthemfree[m]>
Since jack has been updated in master, is it possible to somehow re-run the CI checks on this PR to see if the arm build succeeds? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/74331
<srhb>
setthemfree[m]: It looks like grahamcofborg already ran?
<srhb>
Oh, on master..
<srhb>
I don't remember if gcofborg merges on its own, but otherwise one could always rebase on master.
<setthemfree[m]>
srhb: When I submitted the PR and it ran the CI checks, master included an older version of jack that was broken on arm. Okay, I'll try
<setthemfree[m]>
Thanks
<srhb>
setthemfree[m]: (I already triggered the build) :)
<danderson>
very confused: seems like setting environment.noXlibs=true in a nixos container is causing it to recompile a ton of Qt libraries
<setthemfree[m]>
srhb: thanks!
<danderson>
which... is the opposite of what I was hoping from trying to turn off X
<danderson>
ah, hrm. Grafana apparently wants to use Qt, so if I disable X libs, nixos tries to recompile most of Qt without X support. That's... not ideal.
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<srhb>
danderson: We would probably need a version of phantomjs2 without qt for that, if that's even possible
<danderson>
... what the hell is grafana doing with phantomjs
<srhb>
danderson: No idea, but it's in its closure :-)
<MichaelRaskin>
Maybe it runs tests on itself using it?
<danderson>
no, it's installing phantomjs
<danderson>
digging now
<srhb>
danderson: The last line of the grafana postInstall is: ln -sf ${phantomjs2}/bin/phantomjs $bin/share/grafana/tools/phantomjs/phantomjs
<danderson>
... ah. It uses it to render graphs server-side, so it can optionally serve them as png
<MichaelRaskin>
Hm, that sounds pretty deliberate
<danderson>
since the graphs are usually client-side JS goop, it needs a browser to do the rendering
<danderson>
so... phantomjs
<srhb>
Maybe that feature is optional?
<MichaelRaskin>
Because of course the magic of gnuplot has never graced them
<danderson>
it's optional, yeah. Just not in the nixos thingy
<srhb>
Could easily be made so :)
<danderson>
ah, and it's deprecated :)
<danderson>
"PhantomJS is deprecated since Grafana v6.4 and will be removed in a future release. Please migrate to Grafana image renderer plugin or remote rendering service."
<srhb>
Even better!
<danderson>
looking at what this image renderer pluging is about, if I can figure out how to drop that in I'll send a PR
<srhb>
danderson++
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danderson's karma got increased to 1
<danderson>
ew, the "image rendering plugin" is nodejs and Chromium bundled into one big bag of poop
<danderson>
and dropped into grafana's directories
<danderson>
so, that's not going to help cut down on the amount of graphics libraries required.
<Yaniel>
so basically the same as phantomjs?
<srhb>
danderson: But could still be made optional
<srhb>
(Presumably)
<danderson>
yup, but phantomjs is unmaintained. The project basically shut down when Chromium added a builtin headless mode. The new plugin uses that headless mode.
<srhb>
Sounds OK.
<danderson>
so, hm. Need to think about how to make this optional
<danderson>
I'm thinking create a new package for just the rendering plugin (dependent on the main grafana package), and then add appropriate knobs to the nixos module?
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<srhb>
danderson: The "dropping into directories" part could probably be done with a `grafana-with-rendering` thing that takes the built grafana and symlink joins it with the rendering thingabob
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<srhb>
danderson: Meaning (hopefully) that the NixOS module doesn't need changes.
<srhb>
asheshambasta: Both those say ip4, not ipv4
<asheshambasta>
srhb: ah, I missed that
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<MichaelRaskin>
danderson: Chromium build is _the_ slowest build in my entire system, and it doesn't look like UI parts take the longest there
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<danderson>
MichaelRaskin: in the case of phantomjs, the problem is disabling X libs. There doesn't appear to be a cached version to Qt without X libs, so it has to recompile a bunch of expensive C++
<danderson>
no idea if that would happen with chromium. I'm hoping I can persuade the grafana plugin to use an external chromium binary, and just give it the existing chromium package
<MichaelRaskin>
Ah, that might work for the channel.
<asheshambasta>
srhb: okay, I've done: blacklisting this interface for networkmanager; adding the static ip config. I guess I need to restart this interface for changes to take effect since rebuilding just by itself doesn't seem to do that.
<MichaelRaskin>
But Chromium is also huge and heavy
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<srhb>
asheshambasta: That's possible, I'm not sure if networkmanager does something graceful here.
<MichaelRaskin>
I wonder if any of the last-three-years Chromium bugs are exploitable in the Grafana scenario (there are reasons to hope that no)
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<asheshambasta>
However, (and this probably has to do with networking in linux in general), I'm a little confused by the design of things: one part of the system lets you say you want static IP addr. etc. and another part of the system will silently keep overriding this unless you're aware that it does.
<srhb>
asheshambasta: Yes, in an ideal world that wouldn't be the case, but adding too much logic to modules (networkmanager and networking.interfaces in this case) is also very error prone
<srhb>
So there's some responsibility on the user here.
<srhb>
We haven't confirmed that that truly was the issue, but I know that what you did is certainly incompatible in interesting ways.
<srhb>
asheshambasta: I'm not even sure why you have those commands available.
<srhb>
asheshambasta: You may have added an old package to your systempackages somewhere.
<evils>
i'm looking for help in overriding the version, rev and sha256 for of these packages, from the the unstable.nix that uses this, https://git.io/JeySo
<srhb>
asheshambasta: Possibly ifconfig.
<asheshambasta>
```╰─$ ifdown enp4s0
<asheshambasta>
```
<asheshambasta>
nix-env -iA nixos.busybox
<asheshambasta>
The program ‘ifdown’ is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
<asheshambasta>
:-)
<srhb>
Yeah, that's a horrible suggestion from command-not-found :P
<srhb>
But it's not smart. :)
<asheshambasta>
hehe
<srhb>
You should probably undo that :)
<asheshambasta>
just did
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[nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #71442 → Fix/clean up various ibus-engines → https://git.io/JeBQX
<asheshambasta>
that looks correct: `192.168.0.200/24`
<asheshambasta>
<srhb>
asheshambasta: In that case I suspect there's still some stateful component messing with the interface, dhcpcd maybe. Possibly a reboot is warranted?
<asheshambasta>
yeah, but networking is a giant mess on linux :-)
<asheshambasta>
on any OS, for that matter.
<srhb>
It gets better with systemd-networkd, but that's probably only the default from 20.03 and forward
<srhb>
Anyway, if you can, it's probably easiest to try a reboot rather than manually sorting this out.
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<srhb>
asheshambasta: But network-manager is still crazyland, unfortunately. :)
<asheshambasta>
srhb: yeah, that's clear to me now :-)
<srhb>
asheshambasta: It does all sorts of magical "fire up a dhcpcd for this interface and forget about it" shenanigans
<srhb>
asheshambasta: It's hard for NixOS to tame it.
<srhb>
But I'm glad you got it working. Hopefully there's not too many of these surprises as you get going.
<asheshambasta>
srhb: I'm absolutely loving NixOS so far; and yeah, I'd have had these hiccups in any distro. I'm still happy I had it via the consistent Nix as the interface.
<MichaelRaskin>
Fun part is, once you are comfortable with the level _below_ network-manager, it's completely understandable and predictable and doesn't really change over a decade if you don't want the new features
<srhb>
asheshambasta: Glad to hear it. :)
<srhb>
MichaelRaskin: That's true. And it's not like networkd is all smooth sailing, but it is a lot more declarative than the scripted stuff.
<srhb>
Or rather, it's more declarative out of the box, with us needing to do less work...
<MichaelRaskin>
There are quite a few places where with good knowledge of the lower level writing pure-imperative description from scratch is just less work than writing a declarative description
<asheshambasta>
what extra features does network-manager offer anyway?
<srhb>
asheshambasta: It's the user facing side of network management, usually mostly used for the "click this widget to join wifi" functionality
<MichaelRaskin>
No, I meant the _real_ new features. Like the new types of tunnels
<MichaelRaskin>
(on the kernel level)
<srhb>
MichaelRaskin: Ah, yes.
<asheshambasta>
I see, and some commands to manage interfaces / join wifi networks etc. AFAICS
<srhb>
asheshambasta: Yes. Frankly, I find it mostly worse than not having it for everything non-wifi
<srhb>
asheshambasta: But for wifi, I really don't want to do the manual dance.
<srhb>
So I disable it for everything but my wifi interfaces
<srhb>
(By using a whitelist)
<asheshambasta>
I must say that I find the `nmcli dev wifi` commands really handy
<srhb>
Agreed. I use nmtui for wifi
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<MichaelRaskin>
I just enabled open networks in wpa_supplicant.conf (with a very low priority)
<`_>
As an aside: I currently have all of my wifi SSIDs and PSKs in my configuration.nix. Is there a better way to handle that?
<srhb>
asheshambasta: I do this: networking.networkmanager.unmanaged = [ "*" "except:interface-name:wlp*" ];
<srhb>
asheshambasta: (Blacklist everything, then allow wlp-named devices)
<`_>
I also do not use networkmanager.
<`_>
Oh
<srhb>
`_: Dealing with secrets is usually really painful on NixOS. I'm not sure there's a good way to do it aside from pointing at a file you manage outside of Nix.
<`_>
I see I don't even need an answer for that one.
<MichaelRaskin>
I think you can just keep wpa_supplicant.conf somewhere outside the store
<`_>
Quite possibly
<MichaelRaskin>
Yeah, an isolated VCS repository is actually a _good_ way to store simple enough configuration
<`_>
Or let networkmanager handle the wireless interface and nothing else
<srhb>
`_: Yeah, that's what I settled for.
<`_>
As I see from what you wrote earlier\
<srhb>
:)
<MichaelRaskin>
I think by now I am in a situation where using networkmanager for wifi would be actual work for me
<srhb>
I must say, despite all my gripes, it's not given me a lot of trouble after doing the above.
<`_>
That sounds like bad ideas
<MichaelRaskin>
Because open networks, wpa_supplicant takes them automatically
<MichaelRaskin>
Simple essid/psk, adding four lines to a text file is not hard
<asheshambasta>
is it possible also to have this work where on an interface, I use a static ip address when I'm home and a dynamic one when I'm on other networks?
<`_>
In my case, yes, wpa_supplicant does everything automatically behind my back which is great, but I'd rather not have those PSKs in my public configuration.nix
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<MichaelRaskin>
Complicated eduroam setup? There is a high chance that they actually provide a script somewhere which can be pried open to extract wpa_supplicant network block! Good luck fighting the today's version of UI
<MichaelRaskin>
Yes, sure, wpa_supplicant.conf is outside the store
<MichaelRaskin>
Because why it would be inside, VCS is good enough
<srhb>
asheshambasta: I think the easiest way, if you can live with it, is to have dhcp enabled on the interface as well as the static IP.
<srhb>
At least, if it works like I think it does and just adds an address.
<`_>
My wpa_supplicant.conf is built by my configuration.nix currently, as far as I'm aware
<MichaelRaskin>
Once I went away from mainline NixOS, I never have to wonder if it works without conflicts…
<`_>
Actually at the moment it's not, it's commented out because I'm using Pantheon instead of i3
<MichaelRaskin>
At the low level, it is actually clear what imperative stuff changes (and I flush the state often enough)
<`_>
So I can play a specific game that works well in Pantheon but works terribly in i3
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<srhb>
`_: Can you describe the badness?
<`_>
But yeah moving that all to a private file seems ideal, I guess.
<`_>
srhb: in i3 the when the mouse cursor escapes the screen of the game, it no longer responds within the game.
<`_>
I have a dual-monitor setup.
<`_>
With Pantheon the issue does arise, but all I need to do is pause and unpause and it's fixed.
<srhb>
Not sure how to workaround that. I've experienced it in xmonad as well.. Usually windowed mode is the only thing that helps.
<`_>
I did xmonad for a while but I'm not a Haskeller currently
<`_>
I can do some nix for sure but Haskell is like all... Monadic and stuff
<srhb>
Right, I just meant it's a problem in most tiling WMs as far as I know
<`_>
Fair
<`_>
I can imagine that you could have a special case where if a screen is running wine you could trap the cursor in that screen, but I'm not quite there yet
<`_>
I'll let you know in 5 years when I am.
<srhb>
Isn't that a wine feature anyway
<srhb>
I vaguely remember something like that in winecfg
<srhb>
I think that's actually on-topic as well, but phrasing is important. ;-)
<genesis>
^^
<iamfraggle>
fair enough - anyone here have any experience with ntfs user mapping?
<srhb>
A little. Go ahead and ask your question to the channel, maybe some of us can help, but it's easier to tell once you've asked :-)
<genesis>
that's irc rule #1
<genesis>
don't ask to ask, just ask.
<iamfraggle>
okay - I'll start with: which package is the ntfs-3g.usermap in? I have the ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs packages installed, but not able to find the command.
<srhb>
iamfraggle: But I think the file you want is called ntfsusermap and is from the ntfs3g package :)
<iamfraggle>
I already have the ntfs3g package installed, but I don't seem to have that command, although I do have a man page for it, strangely enough
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<srhb>
iamfraggle: That's weird, what version of nixos are you on? `nixos-version`
<iamfraggle>
19.09
<srhb>
iamfraggle: The above command gives you an exact commit ref at the end :)
<mudri>
It seems that `services.xserver.synaptics` broke, and I'm being forced onto `libinput`. Is there an easy way to translate my settings? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xC0Kpips/
<iamfraggle>
ok - good to know, I'll wait for the outcome of that. Thanks.
<srhb>
iamfraggle: Or you can override it locally
<srhb>
iamfraggle: If you install it via your configuration.nix, you can do: `nixpkgs.overlays = [ (self: super: { ntfs3g = super.ntfs3g.overrideAttrs (oa: { configureFlags = oa.configureFlags ++ ["--enable-extras"]; });`
<srhb>
ack, I failed to terminate that list properly. That, but corrected. ;-)
<iamfraggle>
Ahh, I'll look into that too, thanks again
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<iamfraggle>
Once I've got it up and running I'll look into how I might generate the mapping automatically from configuration.nix
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[nixpkgs] @bergey opened pull request #75157 → nano: upstream patch fixes build on MacOS → https://git.io/JeyQ9
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<lirzhv>
can packages be installed (via nix-env) in the nixos installer?
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<lirzhv>
i ran the nix-env command 5 minutes ago and nothing is printed/displayed on the screen
<lirzhv>
not sure if this is an issue with my vm or if i`m doing it wrong...
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<emmanuelrosa>
lirzhv, yes you can but the changes to the nix store will be made in RAM. Last time I tried, it was slow indeed. You may be better off building an installer image with the packages you want, already included.
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<lirzhv>
emmanuelrosa: makes sense. regarding the custom installer, this is my first time taking a stab at nixos, so i think that topic is a bit too advanced for me :p
<lirzhv>
or is there something in the manual about how to make one?
<exarkun>
there is, and it may be much easier than you expect
<emmanuelrosa>
lirzhv, yep, follow the section on building a cd. Say you go with 'installation-minimal-cd.nix', just add a environment.systemPackages list, like you would with a normal NixOS configuration. Here's an example: https://gist.github.com/emmanuelrosa/31ed87d306674be52e317e2024feca02
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<ashesham`>
So I'm in a bit of trouble: I upgraded 19.03 -> 19.09 and I was using kernel 5_1. The latest kernel on 19.09 is 5_3 which has some bugs that causes my system to hard lock and then crash.
<ashesham`>
19.09 removed 5_1 from linuxPackages; but I'd like to ideally use 19.09 but use the 5_1 kernel.
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<ashesham`>
is there something I can do? I've checked with my hardware: I've run memtests etc. and it all checks out; the hardware seems to be ok. Moreover; I was not experiencing these crashes on 5_1.
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<gchristensen>
you can't use 5_1, because kernel.org / Linux doesn't support or maintain 5.1 anymore. you could try if 5_3 is not good for you, you could try 5_4
<srhb>
ashesham`: What logs are you looking for? Most is in journald
<srhb>
ashesham`: You can't use 5_1 on 19.09 without readding it yourself. Maybe try the stable kernel instead?
<srhb>
LTS, I should say.
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<ashesham`>
just something that would help me on seeing what the problem is that causes the system to lock up and crash
<srhb>
(Which is the default if you don't set the option)
<srhb>
ashesham`: depends when the crash happens.
<srhb>
ashesham`: journalctl -k will give you the kernel log
<ashesham`>
srhb: usually right after waking the system up after sleep
<srhb>
Problem with crashes is that it may not get written to disk.
<ashesham`>
yeah
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<ashesham`>
its quite a pain to debug crashes in linux though, so much so that it makes BSOD seem like a great idea (jk)
<ashesham`>
on my hardware, which is new, most issues I'm experiencing are issues on resume from sleep; the system seems to be okay for a bit and then it crashes: either the display gets corrupt and then X stops responding (in that case I can still drop to tty and reboot); or the whole system freezes and I cannot even ssh into this machine
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Jey7o
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<emmanuelrosa>
ashesham, can you post a link to your (sanitized) NixOS configuration?
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<betawaffle>
from inside a nixos module (something imported with imports = [ ... ]), how can i refer back to something from the whole finished configuration, from an expression?
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<kisonecat>
betawaffle: from the module, access the config parameter?
<betawaffle>
an argument to my file's function, right?
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<genesis>
infinisil : after a month playing this at hospital, i'm a bit good at it :D
<genesis>
after more tja, 2 months at hospital, i'm home again \o/
<genesis>
and i'm pretty nixos addict and ready to put my latest force in it, best oss software after 18 years in oss !
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[nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #75161 → zabbix: various package reference fixes → https://git.io/Jeydi
<genesis>
(i'm unemplayable due to my hearth disease, so my topic are embbeded linux aka "firmware" , i used to work with openembedded and nixos needs some fantasy eyes on it)
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<evanjs>
genesis: corworker and I just got another coworker roped into nixos and feeling the same way. Glad to see more people joining the nixos community! We need all the help we can get (esp with all the open PRs...)
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<genesis>
evanjs : yes i've 10 open pR (new package) i know it's a bit fustrating
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<genesis>
i think something is better than nothing, and we should be a bit more regardless on "init PR"
<evanjs>
genesis: especially when you don’t really know what the issue is 🙃 (eg #73225)
<evanjs>
genesis: yep. One of the reasons we’re doing so well — which is visible on sites like https://repology.org/ — most non-unique projects, up to date packages, etc
<genesis>
#58594 is a good example, fenugrec told i would have drop BUILDGUI but i want it for my next project
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<genesis>
people who're moderating PR don't know packager agenda
<genesis>
bit a more confident on them would change the game.
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<evanjs>
Speaking of weird issues, yorick helped me diagnose an input issue yesterday, but does anybody know why gdm+xmonad would have suddenly stopped initializing the touchpad? Adding myself to the inputs group “fixed” it, but...
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[nixpkgs] @ajs124 opened pull request #75165 → kaidan: init at 0.4.1 → https://git.io/JeyFY
<evanjs>
genesis: I’m probably in the same boat. Happy to make PRs but still not too confident with procedure and etc
<genesis>
evanjs : it's not like we could break anything ...
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<genesis>
if it's not perfect, improvement are welcome.
<evanjs>
genesis: no I know. I’m pretty fearless when it comes to my own devices, but I get sorta paranoid and tend to overthink things when it comes to contributing to projects and etc
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<evanjs>
Interesting... Still getting "Couldn't init device "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"", and it doesn't work in gdm, but works once xmonad launches
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[nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @emmanuelrosa to master « syncthing: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.2 »: https://git.io/JeyFX
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<JanitorDan>
Where should $XDG_CONFIG_HOME be defined? I have `xdg.portal.enable = true; xdg.oortal.extraPortals = [ pkgs.xdg-desktop-portal-gtk ]; xdg.portal.gtkUsePortal = true;` in my configuration. But the environment variable does not get defined. Is this something I should be defining manually, or is there a config option for it?
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<JanitorDan>
Sorry, got disconnected. Still hoping for some help with XDG_CONFIG_HOME being undefined.
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<lassulus>
I don't have it defined, but if you want to devine it yourself you can do environment.variables.XDG_CONFIG_HOME = "$HOME/something";
<infinisil>
JanitorDan: You don't need to define it
<infinisil>
The xdg spec says that if it's unset it should have the default value of $HOME/.config
<infinisil>
So no need to set it if you don't need another location than that
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<amf>
How do you specify an exact kernel version to use? I only need 5.3.x generic, 5.4 breaks with virtualbox. I'm running 19.09
<JanitorDan>
Hmm, then my confusion is why Herbstlufwm doesn't detect its config. By default the config is supposed to be located at $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/herbstluftwm/autostart. My config is at $HOME/.config/herbstluftwm/autostart, but it doesn't detect it.
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<sondr3>
anyone here using Haskell and cabal2nix? I cannot get doctests to run by using `cabal new-test`, I see them successfully running when I do `nix-build release.nix` however
<sondr3>
when I run the command directly instead I get Could not find module ‘Data.List.Split’
<aleph->
clever: And found my issue with my nixOS setup. External usb I auto-mount apparently wasn't fully seated in...
<aleph->
Sigh
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<sondr3>
oh, found my error, I had to do `cabal2nix --shell . > shell.nix` again and now it works
<sondr3>
whelp, one hour out the window :D
<betaboon>
anyone has a suggestion how to approach situation where you need to access files in /share of an installed package?
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<clever>
__marlene__: you could just set postInstall
<__marlene__>
@clever i guess?
<clever>
__marlene__: what happens if you use that override?
<__marlene__>
nothing
<clever>
__marlene__: add an echo to it, does anything print?
<__marlene__>
actually no wait
<__marlene__>
I have mullvad-daemon in /run/current-system/sw/lib/systemd/system now
<__marlene__>
got confused with environment.systemPackages vs. nix-env methods of installation
<andreoss>
hi, i'm looking for a documentation/examples for using nix as a docker image base. i assume that having Dockerfile with bunch "RUN nix-env -iA .." is not a way to go.
<clever>
__marlene__: and i think you then need to add it to systemd.packages
<clever>
__marlene__: systemd stuff must go there, not nix-env or systemPackages
<__marlene__>
@clever ooh
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<__marlene__>
maybe that's what I was missing
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<clever>
andreoss: check the docs for dockerTools.buildLayeredImage
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<snajpa>
hi guys, sorry for the OT, but I know a lot of you guys are involved in some way: would anyone here have a CCC ticket you could spare?
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<snajpa>
fpletz ^ maybe please? :)
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<__marlene__>
@clever after adding to systemd.packages it fails to symlink - file exists
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<__marlene__>
maybe I didn't need the override, just systemd.packages? let's try that
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<clever>
__marlene__: also, nothing happens when you @clever, so i dont notice the messages
<__marlene__>
clever: oops
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<clever>
thats better
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<__marlene__>
:)
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<__marlene__>
clever: ok so now it finally shows up in /etc/systemd/system
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<pbogdan>
can I somehow float out the _fix argument to the top level in this expression or make it available within the arguments without it being one itself - http://ix.io/23PX/nix
<evils>
i'm looking for help in overriding the version, rev and sha256 for of these packages, from the the unstable.nix that uses this, https://git.io/JeySo
<flokli>
gchristensen: nope, put i'd be very interested into trying it out ;-)
<gchristensen>
me too, flokli :)
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<gchristensen>
flokli: looks like we have a patching standoff
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<flokli>
gchristensen: are you trying to nerdsnipe me into packaging it? ;-)
<gchristensen>
flokli: I think you're trying to nerd-snipe me!
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* gchristensen
is already doing it .... *stare*
<flokli>
very good gchristensen
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<flokli>
I'll happily test your PR :-P
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<gchristensen>
probably shouldn't make it part of nixpkgs until it is stable ...
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<jjulianc>
Hi people. I need some help getting Nix installed on a CentOS 6 server
<jjulianc>
performing a single-user installation of Nix...
<jjulianc>
copying Nix to /nix/store................................
<jjulianc>
installing 'nix-2.3.1'
<evils>
jjulianc: stop the spam please
<jjulianc>
error: while setting up the build environment: bind mount from '/dev/full' to '/nix/store/cb6ss4jv8baxkq2pi6fnviqp9zyna73l-user-environment.drv.chroot/dev/full' failed: Permission denied
<jjulianc>
I have sudo privileges, but the script does not prompt me for my password. Will I have to modify the installation script?
<clever>
jjulianc: if you have write permission to /nix/ then it wont need to use sudo to install
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[nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #74811 → buildGoModule: disable consult the checksum database on build → https://git.io/JeMGo
<bdju>
I'm getting an error about "priority" while trying to install some packages, a conflict between `mtools` and `mkmanifest`, but the latter isn't something I was installing. It sounds like it's part of home-manager. I'm not sure what I should do here. Any advice?