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<cmacrae> So, general question out to the channel: I'm using mkForce in some places to alter the ExecStart of some services. Is there any way I can get the "default" value to reference it?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @isgy opened pull request #76517 → python3Packages.jupyterhub: 0.9.4 -> 1.0.0 → https://git.io/Jeb4T
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<cmacrae> Perhaps an example will help: I'm using writeShellScriptBin combined with mkForce to set the ExecStart of a systemd unit. In this shell script, I'm just using 'while' to wait for a file to appear before starting the service. As such, when it gets to starting the service, I'm just using the "default" value that's defined in nixpkgs by hand. Less than ideal. I'd prefer to be able to interpolate the default value
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen opened pull request #76519 → meli: init at alpha-0.4.2 → https://git.io/Jeb4O
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<guill> I'm relatively new to Nix, so this might be a stupid question, but I'm having trouble finding a solid answer through search engines: Is there any way to get some of the configuration features of NixOS on a system that isn't actually NixOS? Specifically, I'm looking to use `networking.firewall` options to configure iptables in a docker container
<guill> based on 'nixos/nix'.
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<guill> Alternatively, is anyone aware of a docker image actually based on NixOS rather than just a stripped down version of Nix?
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<mica[m]> guill: I don't think so.
<mica[m]> Not aware of a docker image eithrr
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<worldofpeace> cmacrae: Doesn't systemd have some unit key like ConditionPathExists to start unit if a file exists?
<notgne2> guill: I might have what you want but it depends
<notgne2> guill: https://github.com/notgne2/continix this builds a docker image based off a NixOS config
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<notgne2> the generated container won't work with Nix commands or anything, it's not mutable, this is just so you can use the same config you would on NixOS to generate a Docker container, to avoid writing annoying scripts and Dockerfiles
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<cmacrae> worldofpeace: Very good point! I've actually also just realised I could just use ExecStartPre... but perhaps (depending on behaviour, such as retries) I could look into ConditionPathExists!
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<cmacrae> Looks like ConditionPathExists is an if, not a while - but still a good point to go digging!
<guill> @notgne2: That's super cool! Not quite what I was looking for, but I think it's something I may still be able to use. Thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76511 → pipelight: fix build → https://git.io/JebnM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4E
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<worldofpeace> cmacrae: exactly, it could be likely systemd has an elegant way for you to do that.
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<cmacrae> worldofpeace++
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<cmacrae> :D
<infinisil> worldofpeace: cmacrae: It indeed has, look at path units (man systemd.path)
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<cmacrae> Nice! Will check it out
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<cmacrae> Thanks infinisil++
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<infinisil> :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76452 → youtube-dl: 2019.11.28 -> 2019.12.25 → https://git.io/JeFhF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76467 → spamassassin: fix IPv6 → https://git.io/JebvA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4M
<cap_sensitive> Hi. I'm trying to build w3m with imlib2 support of macOS: `w3m = super.w3m.override { graphicsSupport = true; imlib2 = super.imlib2; }` But I got build error when building w3mimgdisplay
<cap_sensitive> I suspect imlib2 is not installed by nix. How can I check that?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76302 → rofi: fix displaying hicolor icons → https://git.io/Jeb45
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4d
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/Jeb4A
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg merged pull request #76172 → golden-cheetah: Add libusb (ANT+ sensors), 3.5-DEV1903 -> 3.5-RC2X → https://git.io/Jeb4x
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg merged pull request #72917 → multipath-tools: Fix prefix → https://git.io/Jeaun
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4h
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76410 → nixosTests.mumble: port to python → https://git.io/JeFd6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeb4j
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75124 → clojure-lsp: init at release-20191223T204324 → https://git.io/JeyrZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebBJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #76521 → mate.mate-control-center: look for system themes in system data dirs → https://git.io/JebBt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra pushed to master « maintainer-list: Update edolstra email address »: https://git.io/JebBO
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<cjpbirkbeck> does anybody here disable root logins (e.g. set root password to nothing), like ubuntu does it? would you recommend it?
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<drakonis> the rules apply to every distribution
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #76522 → swift-im: fix build → https://git.io/JebRb
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<notgne2> cjpbirkbeck: personally I use `security.sudo.wheelNeedsPassword = false;`, which is a slightly nicer alternative
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/aa1a41b60b2 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<jtojnar> cjpbirkbeck users.extraUsers.root.hashedPassword = "*";
<jtojnar> actually should be !, not *
<jtojnar> but in practice, the difference should not matter https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/252016/difference-between-vs-vs-in-etc-shadow
<evanjs> Is there an easy way to specify e.g. other-modules (cabal) for a haskell derivation? I might be thinking of this the wrong way
<evanjs> Trying to do this for xmonad in nix
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #76523 → kontact: fix build → https://git.io/Jeb00
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<eraserhd> AFAICT, #72331 is reviewed, approved, and ready to be merged to staging. Will someone hit the button?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/72331 (by hlolli, 8 weeks ago, open): graalvm8: 19.1.1 -> 19.2.1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ehmry opened pull request #76525 → navilu-font: init at 1.2 → https://git.io/Jeb0N
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<dansho_> i think i broke my NIX_PATH
<dansho_> cant rebuild
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst pushed commit from @yorickvP to master « nixos/borgbackup: install job wrappers to systemPackages for easy borg access »: https://git.io/Jeb0j
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst closed pull request #64888 → nixos/borgbackup: generate wrappers per job for easy borg access → https://git.io/fjXxD
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<Enzime> does anyone know how to build 32-bit apitrace?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #76492 → vscode-extensions.ms-vscode-remote.remote-ssh: fix patch for 0.48.0 → https://git.io/JebmI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebEC
<infinisil> > pkgsi686Linux.apitrace # Enzime
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/2a899zncgphrp9wvahy2dah38nka3wjy-apitrace-7.1-572-g26966134.drv>"
<Enzime> infinisil: how does that work?
<infinisil> That's the nixpkgs attribute
<Enzime> are all packages available under pkgsi686Linux?
<infinisil> Yup
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<Enzime> these derivations will be built:
<Enzime> /nix/store/hy6ync8yn9kxswmm7rz3jdl4d5v9lj73-hyphen-2.8.8.drv
<Enzime> /nix/store/sq5fbrcwccqq4s48wc5dzxlsj47hvfh3-qtwebkit-5.212-alpha-01-26-2018.drv
<Enzime> might take a while...
<Enzime> thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #76522 → swift-im: fix build → https://git.io/JebRb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebEW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #76523 → kontact: fix build → https://git.io/Jeb00
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebEl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #76514 → udev: fix option description → https://git.io/JebWf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hamishmack opened pull request #76528 → darktable: Add openmp when cc.isClang to fix macos → https://git.io/JebEy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @hamishmack opened pull request #76529 → darktable: fix missing lensfun files → https://git.io/JebEH
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/c5aacb23506 (from 82 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #76530 → glow: init at 0.1.3 → https://git.io/Jebzf
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<puffnfresh> Miyu-saki: hey I saw you had a DBus error recently "Connection was disconnected before a reply was received"
<puffnfresh> you bisected to find the problem commit right?
<puffnfresh> do you know which it was?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 closed pull request #76530 → glow: init at 0.1.3 → https://git.io/Jebzf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ehmry merged pull request #76213 → glow: init at 0.1.3 → https://git.io/Jebzi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ehmry pushed to master « glow: init at 0.1.3 »: https://git.io/JebzP
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<mlen> Hi, I'd like to copy a file that I keep alongside the derivation into the build directory -- what's the cleanest way to achieve this?
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<raboof> what could explain 'Package ‘firefox-bin-71.0’ has an unfree license (‘unknown’), refusing to evaluate.'?
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<raboof> funny thing is I get it even when I comment out firefox from my system packages - the nixos-rebuild trace looks like https://pastebin.com/mMEE8qC0
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<puffnfresh> raboof: you need to set allowUnfree
<__monty__> Maybe it's because they include graphics that aren't free?
<puffnfresh> mlen: cp ${./file} $out/
<raboof> puffnfresh: I'm trying not to :)
<__monty__> I know firefox non-bin couldn't include the logos for a bit.
<__monty__> puffnfresh: Any sonic streaming in the near future?
<raboof> I'm getting this even when I have firefox commented out though - not sure how it's being pulled in
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<mlen> puffnfresh: thanks, didn't expect it to be that simple :) doesn't it copy it to the target dir instead of the build dir though? or does that depend on the phase?
<thblt> The branding/license issue has been solved for some time now
<__monty__> thblt: With `firefox` yes. But maybe that's the reason `firefox-bin` doesn't have a free license?
<puffnfresh> mlen: cp ${./file} .
<mlen> puffnfresh: ack, thanks
<immae> mlen puffnfresh note that this command will have an unpredictable name if you write it like that, you may want to use cp ${./file} ./file instead :p
<thblt> __monty__: it seems to be
<__monty__> Ah, and it's probably rendered as SPDX "unknown"?
<__monty__> raboof: So firefox-bin *is* unfree. Not sure why you get the error if you don't have it in your config though. I'd be surprised if anything depended on firefox-bin.
<thblt> But that's a bit strange, even Debian packages Firefox (with the official branding) in free nowadays
<__monty__> Fwiw, firefox could be an alternative for you. If you stick to a stable channel the build should always be cached.
<__monty__> raboof: ^
<__monty__> thblt: Not that strange, users can't rebuild the official mozilla binary.
<puffnfresh> are you sure you saved the file raboof? I don't get why you'd get that error otherwise
<__monty__> And it's only because the distros have gotten explicit permission that they can build firefox with official branding, afaik.
<raboof> (i'm tracking nixos-unstable btw, not sure if that's relevant)
<thblt> No, that wasn't the issue (for Debian at least). It was that anyone should be able to build a vanilla or patched Fx with official branding.
<thblt> Here's the Debian bug for reference https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006
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<Miyu-saki> puffnfresh: Hi.
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<Miyu-saki> puffnfresh: IIRC, it's already fixed in unstable.
<thblt> I think I got it. You're not allowed to charge for binaries downloaded from mozilla.org, which makes firefox-bin, specifically, nonfree.
<raboof> __monty__: I'm using `firefox` actually - but my nixos-rebuild will complain about `firefox-bin`, `firefox-release-bin` and `firefox-release-bin-unwrapped` whether or not I have `firefox` commented out
<thblt> This is comment #15 on the Debian bug.
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/15 (by aszlig, 7 years ago, closed): virtualbox: Fix build for kernel 3.5.0.
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<raboof> ok, so it makes sense that firefox-*bin* are unfree, but not that I'm getting errors about those
<__monty__> thblt: That's not the only reason. That's the reason it's still nonfree for debian. Their own binaries are only able to use the firefox branding because they got specific permission. As did NixOS.
<__monty__> afaik
<thblt> __monty__: Firefox-branded Firefox is free for Debian
<__monty__> Yes, but only because mozilla specifically said "We probably won't come after you with our trademarks, keep up the good work."
<__monty__> As someone creating a derived work from the free version distributed by debian. You still run the risk of mozilla coming after you for the branding.
<__monty__> Let's move to #nixos-chat for the licensing talk.
<raboof> ah, `dropbox` depends on `firefox-bin` apparently
<raboof> I've been meaning to get rid of that eventually anyway :D
<__monty__> That's a weird dependency imo.
<thblt> That's not enough to be called “free” by Debian. Rule 8 of the DFSG explicitely states that DFSG-compatibility requires that “License Must Not Be Specific to Debian”
<__monty__> And the thread shows that most people are worried they're in a very grey area re DFSG#8 : )
<thblt> Granted :) But NixOS seems to follow their interpretation, firefox is free, firefox-bin isn't.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76409 → rng-tools: 6.8 -> 6.9 → https://git.io/JeFdK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebgu
<__monty__> Yes, but didn't NixOS get explicit permission too? The earlybird->thunderbird transition was pretty recent.
<thblt> (For a more practical solutions to Firefox issues, btw, there's also the Mozilla overlay.)
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<thblt> Although it seems nixpkgs have improved a lot wrt to Firefox since I last checked.
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<__monty__> Hmm, isn't the mozilla overaly very cutting edge and not cached?
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<thblt> It uses dark magic to always have an up-to-date firefox by creating derivations from a remote JSON db of versions.
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<thblt> And non -bin versions have no binary cache, indeed.
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<dansho> arg, is there something broken with firefox audio on nixos?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau opened pull request #76531 → python.pkgs.sympy: 1.4 -> 1.5 → https://git.io/Jebg9
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<dansho> ah, nix-channel --rollback =)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #76348 → mate.caja: 1.22.2 -> 1.22.3 → https://git.io/JeFPO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #76347 → offlineimap: add proxy dependency → https://git.io/JeFPf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed commit from @Vonfry to master « offlineimap: add proxy dependency (#76347) »: https://git.io/Jeb2r
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<the_pumpkin_man[> Hey, Im trying to install Thunar without installing XFCE. So I installed xfce.thunar with gvfs, thunar-volman and thunar-archive-plugin but none of the 2 plugins are working and I get no icons. Are there actually issues on Thunar ?
<NoctisLa1> I have Thunar without XFCE on i3, not sure about the plugins but the icons work fine.
<the_pumpkin_man[> Do you have some icon themes installed ? I also use i3
<NoctisLa1> Just using the basic adwaita dark.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Jeb27
<NoctisLa1> I think the Thunar plugins aren't working for me either though.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst merged pull request #76174 → nixos/nginx: forced change permissions → https://git.io/Jeb25
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<the_pumpkin_man[> NoctisLa1 still doesnt work, for unknown reason only a .kdbx file has an icon
<the_pumpkin_man[> Other files or folder doesnt have one, I just see the name
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage2nix: disable broken builds »: https://git.io/Jeb2b
<the_pumpkin_man[> Were you talking about this packages ? gnome3.adwaita-icon-theme
<NoctisLa1> I have that, yes.
<NoctisLa1> Also gnome-themes-extra
<the_pumpkin_man[> Gonna try that
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<NoctisLa1> Also hicolor-icon-theme, which is the default fallback theme used by implementations of the icon theme specification.
<NoctisLa1> Then I set it all with lxappearance-gtk3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm opened pull request #76532 → buildGoModule: support impure modules → https://git.io/JebaU
<the_pumpkin_man[> None of these works, and I already got the hicolor-icon-theme package
<the_pumpkin_man[> But shouldn't the icons automatically be set ?
<the_pumpkin_man[> Well I will try to set them manually with lxappearence
<NoctisLa1> I dunno, I just know the way I do it seems to work.
<the_pumpkin_man[> Its NixOS, some config on some PC should work on other PCs
<NoctisLa1> Ah, but a lot of the theming is managed in your home directory.
<the_pumpkin_man[> Bruh still not working by changing theme
<the_pumpkin_man[> But if you got at least one icon-theme installed
<the_pumpkin_man[> It should load it
<the_pumpkin_man[> And plugins should also work
<the_pumpkin_man[> I mean, I come from Arch Linux, where I just installed the needed packages and it just works
<NoctisLa1> I come from Arch Linux too.
<NoctisLa1> Ah, the plugins are working for me in fact.
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<NoctisLabs> For example, thunar-volman-settings to manage the volume manager plugin.
<the_pumpkin_man[> But how
<the_pumpkin_man[> Would you mind to share me your config ?
<the_pumpkin_man[> Thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 27 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/Jeba8
<__monty__> Looks like you need to pass the plugins to the thunar expression, not just install them seperately.
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<NoctisLabs> volman seems to work without doing that, not sure about thunar-archive-plugin
<NoctisLabs> Nice catch though.
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<the_pumpkin_man[> Ok, I think thunar-volman isnt working because I didnt enabled gvfs. I will first try that
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<NoctisLabs> Ah yes, you need to enable it as a servce module, not just install the package.
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<NoctisLabs> I made that mistake when I first started using NixOS.
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<the_pumpkin_man[> It actually doesnt work, I wil try to reboot
<the_pumpkin_man[> And yes thats probably causing the problem
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<NoctisLabs> I'm heading off for the night, good luck.
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8b6bb39d39a (from 49 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst opened pull request #76533 → nixos/nginx: fixup permissions for Nginx state dir → https://git.io/Jeba9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NilsIrl opened pull request #76534 → Enable OCR for ccextractor → https://git.io/Jebad
<jtojnar> the_pumpkin_man Did you use `(pkgs.xfce.thunar.override { thunarPlugins = [ pkgs.xfce.thunar-archive-plugin ]; })`?
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<jtojnar> oh, I was scrolled back
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<the_pumpkin_man[> Thanks NoctisLabs Thunar-volman is now working
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<the_pumpkin_man[> But not the rest :(
<the_pumpkin_man[> Jan Tojnar: I will try this
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<the_pumpkin_man[> But the fact is I dont have xfce installed and dont want it
<the_pumpkin_man[> so, I dont know if its a good idea
<__monty__> the_pumpkin_man[: If you want a great filemanager without any dependencies on DEs, try ranger : >
<the_pumpkin_man[> And why does thunar-volman work as plugin but not thunar-archive-plugin ? This make no sense
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<the_pumpkin_man[> __monty__: Ok
<the_pumpkin_man[> Will do that
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<__monty__> the_pumpkin_man[: That was mostly a shameless plug but I do sincerely recommend ranger.
<the_pumpkin_man[> Oh but its a console file manager
<the_pumpkin_man[> I want a graphical one
<brightone> __monty__: ranger is awesome and feature-rich. also take a look at https://github.com/jarun/nnn for another take on this experience
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<brightone> the_pumpkin_man[: have you heard about PCManFM? It hasn't been updated in a while, but seems pretty okay to me as it is
<__monty__> Of course thunar *should* work fine on nixos.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #76533 → nixos/nginx: fixup permissions for Nginx state dir → https://git.io/Jeba9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebVB
<the_pumpkin_man[> PCManFM seems to be the file manager of LXDE, so still depending on a Desktop Manager
<__monty__> Are there any GUI filemanagers that don't depend on a DE? Dolphin?
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<the_pumpkin_man[> Dolphin is KDE
<the_pumpkin_man[> I personally like Thunar, its just weird the thunar-archive-plugin isnt working
<the_pumpkin_man[> There is an issue on it https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/66735
<{^_^}> #66735 (by l0b0, 18 weeks ago, open): No archive context menu after installing thunar-archive-plugin
<brightone> the_pumpkin_man[: what about fman? https://fman.io/
<brightone> Proprietary though.
<__monty__> Have you given console file managers a chance? None of those depend on a DE : )
<the_pumpkin_man[> brightone: I prefer open source ones and it isnt in the nixos repository
<the_pumpkin_man[> __monty__: no, I will try ranger
<brightone> tbh, both ranger and nnn are very, very usable for just about anything you can imagine doing with your files. ranger even has media previews available right in your terminal! :)
<__monty__> *depending on your terminal, caveats apply : )
<the_pumpkin_man[> Im actually using alacritty
<the_pumpkin_man[> But do they have the ability to mount and manage files in drives ?
<__monty__> Hmm, then you'd be restricted to either the ueberzug preview method (requires X11) or mpv. (This is for image previews, textual previews should just work.)
<__monty__> Ranger doesn't automount drives.
<__monty__> Once mounted it's just like any other fs though.
<the_pumpkin_man[> I dont really need to automount them, but to have the ability to see "you have some USB key or external drive plugged in, click it to mount it"
<the_pumpkin_man[> As in graphical file manager
<__monty__> It doesn't do that currently.
<the_pumpkin_man[> Then I will stay on Thunar and try to make it work
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #73113 → nixos/httpd: support overridable virtual hosts → https://git.io/JeVwj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebVD
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<lassulus> 1000 commits ?!
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<ma27[m]> ship it! %)
<ma27[m]> (to be serious: fpletz merged master into the gcc-9 branch)
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<fpletz> 6099 commits actually :>
<fpletz> about time to get that branch merged
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<Enzime> __monty__: anything cool in your ranger conf?
<__monty__> Enzime: No, I maintain ranger so don't need a config : )
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #76394 → firmware-linux-nonfree: 2019-10-22 -> 2019-12-15 → https://git.io/JeFQk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebwz
<Enzime> fpletz: nice
<Enzime> __monty__: what's your GH? :p
<__monty__> toonn
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<Enzime> __monty__: oh cool
<Enzime> I've got some fun stuff in my config heh
<Enzime> map t<bg> draw_bookmarks
<Enzime> map t<any> eval fm.tab_new(path=fm.bookmarks[str(fm.ui.keybuffer)[-1]])
<Enzime> # tg<any> makes a new tab then goes to the folder specified by g%any
<Enzime> eval -q [cmd("map tg{} eval fm.tab_new(path='{}')".format(chr(k), fm.ui.keymaps['browser'][103][k][3:]))for k in fm.ui.keymaps['browser'][103] if fm.ui.keymaps['browser'][103][k].startswith('cd ')]
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz merged pull request #76478 → xsecurelock: 1.5.1 -> 1.6.0 → https://git.io/JebJH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « xsecurelock: 1.5.1 -> 1.6.0 (#76478) »: https://git.io/Jebwo
<thblt> I asked yesterday, sorry if you've seen it already: Is there a way to disable a given “tunable” with powerManagement.powertop.enable? Specifically, autosleep for the receiver of my wireless mouse, which makes it lag for a half second or so every time I grab it.
<hexo> hi, does anyone use FBP extension in firefox? it seems like it has a problem saving settings, could it be somehow nixos related?
<Enzime> can someone take a look at this PR? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/73214
<{^_^}> #73214 (by DavHau, 6 weeks ago, open): lutris: add missing gnutls dependency
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<ma27[m]> Enzime: will do that %)
<__monty__> Yeah, they're good ideas. They'd probably make it into the default config if you PR'd.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #75876 → pythonPackages.haas-nabucasa: init at 0.29 → https://git.io/Je5mq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebre
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #76490 → gprof2dot: 2017-09-19 -> 2019-11-30 → https://git.io/JebqW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebrv
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<f0x2> I can't get ipv6 to work on hetzner cloud
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #73214 → lutris: add missing gnutls dependency → https://git.io/JewGs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebrL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #76372 → python27Packages.biopython: 1.75 -> 1.76 → https://git.io/JeFD4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebrq
<f0x> my config: https://paste.ee/p/afVk3
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<f0x> `ip -6 r` also doesn't show a default via, like my other debian hetzner vps: "default via fe80::1 dev eth0 metric 1024 onlink pref medium"
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #76536 → act: init at 0.1.3 → https://git.io/Jebr4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Izorkin opened pull request #76537 → unit: 1.13.0 -> 1.14.0 → https://git.io/JebrB
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #76538 → airwave: mark VST SDK as unfree → https://git.io/JebrR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #76361 → python37Packages.aiohttp-socks: 0.2.2 -> 0.3.2 → https://git.io/JeF1X
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JebrK
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<f0x> fixed by defining defaultGateway6 as an object instead of just string with the ip
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #76539 → grex: init at 0.3.0 → https://git.io/JeboI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais pushed to master « bundlerEnv: fix for Ruby 2.7 »: https://git.io/JeboY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 3 commits to gcc-9: https://git.io/JeboO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #76355 → pdns-recursor: 4.2.0 -> 4.2.1 → https://git.io/JeFXR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jebo8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chpatrick opened pull request #76540 → gnome-flashback: add option to replace gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver → https://git.io/JeboR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed to gcc-9 « pbis-open: fix build with gcc9 »: https://git.io/Jeboz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #76541 → root: wrap python executables → https://git.io/Jeboa
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<{^_^}> [nix] @Ma27 opened pull request #3291 → nix/main: Set `verboseBuild` to `args.printBuildLogs` → https://git.io/JebKR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #75442 → ueberzug: init at 18.1.5 → https://git.io/Je9ZB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed commit from @filalex77 to master « ueberzug: init at 18.1.5 »: https://git.io/JebKD
<mpickering> When trying to use a python created using `withPackages`, I am getting this confusing error "ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pkg_resources'"
<lassulus> mpickering: which packages are you trying to use?
<mpickering> That's my shell.nix
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<mpickering> Which uses `withPackages`, as suggested in the issue about this problem https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/68606
<{^_^}> #68606 (by Pamplemousse, 14 weeks ago, closed): `No module named 'pkg_resources'` when importing Z3
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<lassulus> hmm, the shell.nix works for me, are you on nixos?
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<mpickering> I mean it works, to load the environment
<mpickering> but not to use the package
<lassulus> ah ok
<mpickering> It seems there is an issue with how I did the override of folium as this fails
<mpickering> python3 -c "import folium; print(folium)"
<mpickering> but this works "python3 -c "import gdal; print(gdal)"
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<mpickering> perhaps branca is packaged incorrectly
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<mpickering> seems like if I add a dependency on setuptools to branca is works
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #76542 → nixos/networking: Add the FQDN and hostname to /etc/hosts → https://git.io/Jeb6U
<lassulus> hmm, yeah, setuptools is somehow missing, but not sure why and how to add it with overridePythonAttrs
<mpickering> It seems that something quite fundamentally changed at some point and no one updated it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mpickering opened pull request #76543 → Python: Add missing setuptools dependency to branca → https://git.io/Jeb6n
<mpickering> ^ I made a PR to add it, so someone will comment if the fix is incorrect
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MetaDark opened pull request #76544 → texlab: fix macOS build → https://git.io/Jeb68
<itsu[m]> Hello, beginner here. I have this `configuration.nix` https://pastebin.com/tXwqd6TA Unfortunately, Elm doesnt seem to build properly. It says it cannot build derivation. One of the error is about a module (Netwokr.Socket) that doesn't export `bindSocket`
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<itsu[m]> I don't know where to go from here. Is this because my configuration is wrong or maybe it's something impacting everyone ??
<itsu[m]> this is the logs when doing a `nixos-rebuild build` https://pastebin.com/mV2vAFKa
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<tilpner> itsu[m]: #75941
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/75941 (by abbec, 1 week ago, closed): elm package is broken
<tilpner> itsu[m]: Fix has been merged into haskell-updates, might take a while to reach unstable
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<luc65r> Hi!
<itsu[m]> oh ok great, thanks !!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #76541 → root: wrap python executables → https://git.io/Jeboa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebiO
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<asymmetric> what is the purpose of the "outputs" attribute in a nixpkg? when is it useful?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #76545 → stdenv, haskell: bonafied GHCJS cross compilation without stdenv.cc → https://git.io/Jebir
<simpson> asymmetric: Lets a builder split up its artifacts into multiple packages. https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#chap-multiple-output
<simpson> I'd approach it from the other way around: When would you *not* want to split a package?
<asymmetric> simpson: why isn't every package a split package?
<asymmetric> for /share for example
<simpson> asymmetric: Take as example any single-binary undocumented Go package; with only one artifact in bin/, there's not anything to split away.
<asymmetric> should manpages be their own package?
<asymmetric> *store path?
<simpson> Yep. See the table in the manual.
<NinjaTrappeur> 0/, are there any mirageos users here? I'd be interested to hear about your nixos-based dev workflow. Mirage doesn't seem to be packaged in nixpkgs, I was wondering how do you deal with that.
<simpson> NinjaTrappeur: I talked with Mirage's maintainer a bit ago. They weren't really comfortable with building w/o opam, and I wasn't able to dig much into the nature of the build rules.
<simpson> It seems like Mirage will need custom Nix support; it's not just another OCaml package.
<NinjaTrappeur> I see.
<asymmetric> simpson: i don't see a mention of /share (or manpages). all the pkgs i've seen so far don't split /share into its own store path, fwiw
<NinjaTrappeur> So => qemu vm for no
<NinjaTrappeur> w I guess?
<simpson> NinjaTrappeur: I dunno. Whatever works for you. Share if you like.
<simpson> asymmetric: "doc" for /share/doc, "man" or "devman" for man pages (depending on chapter), "info" for info pages. See the table at https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#sec-multiple-outputs- Is your question about a package that you currently have, that puts various interesting things into share/ but not share/doc/?
<NinjaTrappeur> I will, thanks :)
<asymmetric> simpson: i'm removing shared lib functionality from a package and was wondering if i should also remove "dev" from the outputs. seems like i should
<simpson> asymmetric: Maybe? I'm not gonna say "probably". Instead, I'm gonna recommend manually examining the output package's artifacts.
<asymmetric> simpson: is there something specific i should look for after removing "dev"?
<simpson> Not really. Just look at all of the artifacts, see if there's anything that can't be sorted into existing outputs.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #76546 → nvidia: fix $ substitution in udev rules → https://git.io/JebP3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76543 → Python: Add missing setuptools dependency to branca → https://git.io/Jeb6n
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #74072 → nixosTests.nginx*: port to python → https://git.io/JePTS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed to master « maintainer-list: Update infinisil »: https://git.io/JebPh
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<duairc> What are scheduling shares in hydra?
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<clever> duairc: if one job has 20 shares, and the other has 40 shares, the one with 40 shares gets 2x the cpu time
<duairc> Hmmm. If I'm building everything on remote machines anyway, does that matter?
<clever> duairc: it controls which jobset in hydra gets more time, if you have more then one
<duairc> Okay, I think that makes sense. I guess I'm just surprised it can do that when remote machines are doing all the actual building.
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<clever> duairc: if 2 jobsets are fighting over that remote machine, hydra uses the shares to equally divide the workload
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<duairc> But if I don't particularly care, and/or I don't expect a situation where I need to build multiple jobsets at the same time is likely to occur, I can just set everything to have the same value, right?
<duairc> And the values only have meaning relative to one another, their absolute value doesn't mean anything? Like it's nothing like the number of cores on a machine?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « nexus: 3.19.1-01 -> 3.20.1-01 »: https://git.io/Jeb1T
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<Ankhers> Is there a way to use home manager to start a postgres database for development?
<Ankhers> Or do I have to do it using my configuration.nix file?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « python3Packages.pytesseract: 0.3.0 -> 0.3.1 »: https://git.io/Jeb1V
<immae> Ankhers: if you’re able to adapt a shell.nix doing that to your needs, then yes: https://paste.ee/p/Atu4H this nix-shell file will spawn a psql process in background that you can use seamlessly in the shell (I don’t know much home-manager, but I guess it can make use of this kind of thing?)
<Ankhers> immae: Thanks. I will take a look at that.
<lirzhv> what`s the deal with /etc/static?
<lirzhv> i`m asking because i have some self made scripts which use config files in /etc and not sure if i should place them now in /etc/static instead with symlinks in /etc ?
<immae> lirzhv: /etc/static is a link to a derivation. Most files in /etc are a link to files in /etc/static, but not all
<immae> for instance /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key is a known one that doesn’t have its place in a derivation
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #76442 → tigervnc: 1.10.0 -> 1.10.1 → https://git.io/JeFp6
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<clever> duairc: yeah
<lirzhv> immae: ok i think i can`t delay much longer reading the nix pills
<lirzhv> i`m super new to nixos so i had no idea what a derivation even was but ok
<clever> duairc: the meaning is relative to the total of all shares, and if they are equal, then they get an equal share of the workers
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<duairc> clever: Thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #76548 → monitoring plugins: fix path to sudo and mailq → https://git.io/JebMf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #76549 → pythonPackages.pyslurm: remove → https://git.io/JebMJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #76550 → pythonPackages.histbook: remove → https://git.io/JebMk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #76551 → nagios: various improvements → https://git.io/JebMg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « bpftool: fix build »: https://git.io/JebMa
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<mehlon> but when compiling for android it says this: error: attribute 'lib' missing, at /nix/store/la370qpk0lpjqbjhm1vjkgkv0qyixv58-nixexprs.tar.xz/pkgs/development/tools/misc/gdb/default.nix:15:4
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<mehlon> growpotkin? as in kropotkin?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to master « cargo-expand: 0.4.16 -> 0.4.17 »: https://git.io/JebDu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #76552 → nixos/transmission: Enable configuring permissions of home dir → https://git.io/JebDw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @emacsomancer opened pull request #76553 → mullvad-vpn: 2019.08 -> 2019.10 → https://git.io/JebDP
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<musicmatze> Hey nixos! We just hit 1700 open PRs on nixpkgs! Jippiiie!
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<mehlon> oh good
<mehlon> is that dutch
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to release-19.09 « root: wrap python executables »: https://git.io/JebDF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #76544 → texlab: fix macOS build → https://git.io/Jeb68
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @MetaDark to master « texlab: fix macOS build (#76544) »: https://git.io/JebDj
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/264f44b1d0a (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<shapr> wat leuk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ndowens opened pull request #76554 → Remove from maintainer list → https://git.io/Jebyl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #76555 → maintainer-list.nix: remove ndowens → https://git.io/JebyP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #76556 → pdfcpu: 0.3.1 -> 0.3 → https://git.io/Jebyh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl closed pull request #76554 → Remove from maintainer list → https://git.io/Jebyl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #76555 → maintainer-list.nix: remove ndowens → https://git.io/JebyP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #76557 → newsboat: 2.17.1 -> 2.18 → https://git.io/JebSL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Kiwi opened pull request #76558 → simplenote: fix libstdc++ error → https://git.io/JebSq
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<lassulus> Whupps
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bcdarwin opened pull request #76559 → Update parany → https://git.io/JebSZ
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<Thra11> If a project provides a default/example config in the source repo, but doesn't install it anywhere by itself, would it be best to copy the example config into e.g. share? Or is there a better way to make it available to users of the package?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JebSa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #76550 → pythonPackages.histbook: remove → https://git.io/JebMk
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #76558 → simplenote: fix libstdc++ error → https://git.io/JebSq
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