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<worldofpeace> Jan Tojnar: there is some interesting config for the shell at least https://github.com/karetsu/nixOS-configuration/blob/master/users.nix#L6
<karetsu> huh, so somehow I have /var/run/current-system/sw/bin/zsh in my config but in /etc/shells its /run/current-system/sw/bin/zsh
<worldofpeace> karetsu: Ay, dios mío. this should work...
<karetsu> yet the /var version gives me my desired shell
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #72956 → rpm: 4.14.2.1 -> 4.15.0 → https://git.io/Jearw
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<worldofpeace> here's the snippet I'm asking karetsu to run https://gist.github.com/worldofpeace/152dab9d16c7624bd00edcf7af5184fa. perhaps we should jump into dfeet
<karetsu> brb
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<worldofpeace> karetsu: is that shell in /etc/shells?
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<karetsu> worldofpeace, jtojnar : ffs
<karetsu> swapping out my user shell fixed it
<karetsu> /var/run/.../zsh was what prevented them appearing everywhere
<worldofpeace> yay ✨
<worldofpeace> getusershell will not include that path as a valid shell because it doesn't exist in /etc/shells
<karetsu> which is annoying because that worked as-is in 19.03 lol
<karetsu> thank you for all your patience, you wouldn't think I'd actually been a linux user for 15 years - I think jumping to nixos made me lose all my common sense ^__^
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<worldofpeace> karetsu: I assumed you had some experience as you were able to respond to most of my requests without tons of explanation (i.e you could shell redirect). And yes, nixos has this effect sometimes :D
<jtojnar> most likely we changed /etc/shells to point to /run (/var/run is a deprecated symlink)
<jtojnar> I recommend just setting the shell to `pkgs.zsh`
<worldofpeace> hmmm, those should have been readded to /etc/shells for compat
<jtojnar> or whatever you use
<karetsu> yeah, will change that now
<worldofpeace> Ahh, now to somehow inject this into the discourse post so it can be marked as resolved :D
<karetsu> I had one other question though but I don't think its an issue - since I nuked the drive I'm now getting a SHA256 message at kernel selection in grub - should I worry about some RNG protocol failing because it doesn't exist?
<karetsu> worldofpeace: about to add it into the post :)
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<worldofpeace> Be sure to mention that it's because your shell wasn't valid https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/accountsservice/blob/master/src/user-classify.c#L156 because you set it to any entry outside /etc/shells
<{^_^}> #51918 (by bobvanderlinden, 47 weeks ago, merged): tree-wide: nixos: /var/run -> /run
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<jtojnar> And of course there is https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/60996
<{^_^}> #60996 (by layus, 26 weeks ago, open): Warn on deprecated /var/run in shell paths
<jtojnar> layus++
<{^_^}> layus's karma got increased to 1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72369 → nixos/fontconfig-ultimate: remove → https://git.io/JezXp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jear1
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<worldofpeace> hmm, we should have merged that jtojnar. probably too late now
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<karetsu> if, in 6 months, I'm the only person that has had this issue and not known the source I'd say you're safe!
<karetsu> updated the post on discourse, hopefully it makes sense but its gone midnight here and I'm old
<jtojnar> I would not be surprised if there are still some people on 18.09 😱️
<karetsu> those ex-debian users ;)
<jtojnar> karetsu do not forget to mar it as resolved
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<karetsu> do I just tick the solved button for that or is there more?
<karetsu> again, thanks, and now I need sleep, gn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @tohl to release-19.09 « xfburn: 0.5.5 -> 0.6.1 »: https://git.io/Jear7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #72953 → xfburn: 0.5.5 -> 0.6.1, tested on nixos x86_64 → https://git.io/JearT
<DigitalKiwi> jtojnar: i saw on the bird site someone said vultr still has 18.09 iso
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #72930 → Fix missing pypi package for tables → https://git.io/Jeag8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @merijnb to master « pythonPackages.tables: 3.6.0 -> 3.6.1 (#72930) »: https://git.io/Jearj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72860 → Port gnome3 like tests to python and udisks2 → https://git.io/JeaTd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeaoq
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<nh2[m]> what's the best way to install a package from an expression?
<nh2[m]> The simplest I found so far is: `nix-env -iE 'channels: (channels.nixpkgs {}).yarn'`
<nh2[m]> but is it possible to do it shorter / without relying on channel names?
<infinisil> nh2[m]: `nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -iA yarn` is what I'd recommend
<infinisil> Or `nix-env -f channel:nixpkgs-unstable -iA yarn` would work too
<clever> if you still need an expr, nix-env -i -E '_: with import <nixpkgs>; yarn`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72951 → [19.09] nixos/networkmanager: fix merging options → https://git.io/Jeawh
<clever> though id recomend against that, 6 months later, you wont remember what the magic expr was, and cant reproduce things
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to release-19.09: https://git.io/JeaoW
<clever> best to add an override to config.nix, and install that overrive
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #72957 → python3Packages.cliff: fix build and add tests → https://git.io/Jeaol
<DigitalKiwi> i add a bash alias for nix-env
<nh2[m]> clever: infinisil: thanks! Can I combine the `-f` approach with the `-E`xpr?
<clever> nh2[m]: doesnt really make sense, -f tells it to import something for use with -A
<clever> nh2[m]: but -E can just import somethng directly
<nh2[m]> ah so -f does not set the root scope for `-E`?
<clever> i'm not sure what will happen if you mix both
<nh2[m]> ah looks like it does set the scope: `nix-env -i -f '<nixpkgs>' -E 'nixpkgs: (nixpkgs {}).yarn'`
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<clever> and if you point -f elsewhere, it evals to a different version?
<DigitalKiwi> and occasionally just an alias that reminds me what incantation i want
<nh2[m]> clever: I think your line needs a `{}` though: `nix-env -i -E '_: with import <nixpkgs> {}; yarn'`
<clever> nh2[m]: oh, that might be related to the auto-call stuff in -A
<clever> nh2[m]: one minute
<nh2[m]> clever: I would imagine that pointing `-f` somewhere else, it should pick that nixpkgs root, yes
<nh2[m]> that is pretty much what I want; the argument for forgetting what I overrode it with is good but in this case I just need it for a one-off task
<clever> nh2[m]: basically, -A will auto-call any function it stumbles into
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<clever> nh2[m]: so, nix-env, without -f, is setting the scope to a set of functions, each importing a channel, so { nixpkgs = import <nixpkgs>; nixos = import <nixos>; } basically
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<clever> nh2[m]: and when you nix-env -iA nixos.yarn, it auto-calls the nixos attr, with any supplied --arg
<clever> but nix-env -i -E 'foo: ...' passes that whole set as foo
<clever> and you must now call it yourself
<clever> then nix-env -f '<nixpkgs>' -E 'foo: ...' now replaces the entire set with a single function, which you must still call!
<nh2[m]> yes makes sense
<aanderse> qyliss: are you a/the services.mailman maintainer?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72835 → Nixos integration test ports → https://git.io/Je2NM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeao0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen opened pull request #72958 → libexif: fix CVE-2018-20030 → https://git.io/JeaoE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #72959 → nixos/gnome3: add gnome-flashback to systemd.packages → https://git.io/Jeaou
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<CMCDragonkai> When I usually use nix-build, I usually point to `--attr` to a particular attribute meaning a derivation. However if the attribute is actually a Nix function, is there a way to use `nix-build` to the attribute with parameters? Is it to use the `-E` option?
<clever> CMCDragonkai: -A foo.bar will auto-call foo and bar (and the file itself) with any --arg values
<CMCDragonkai> Well my CLI is like `nix-build ./nixos/release.nix --attr makeNetboot`
<CMCDragonkai> I want to call the `makeNetboot` function
<CMCDragonkai> I thought `--arg` goes into `./nixos/release.nix`, not the `makeNetboot` function?
<clever> CMCDragonkai: is it still in the let block? it should fail due to it being undefined
<clever> CMCDragonkai: it goes to both, check the gist i linked
<CMCDragonkai> Oh i see
<CMCDragonkai> You have `--eval` there
<clever> every time -A encounters a function, it just calls it with all of the --arg values
<CMCDragonkai> Is that what makes the difference?
<clever> nope, the --eval just makes nix-instantiate prett-print the value, rather then demand a derivation at the end
<CMCDragonkai> so all --arg and --argstr goes into the file, then to the first attribute, then the second attribute
<clever> yeah
<CMCDragonkai> there's no consumption of the argument right?
<clever> correct
<clever> and any unused arguments are silently ignored
<clever> leading to confusion when users try to use --arg on flags that only .override accepts
<CMCDragonkai> I meant if the file consumes arg1, does the attribute function not get arg1? What if it also wanted arg1?
<clever> CMCDragonkai: it will use builtins.functionArgs to figure out what each function wants
<clever> > builtins.functionArgs ({ a, b }: 42)
<{^_^}> { a = false; b = false; }
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<clever> i often see users doing something somewhat like: nix-env -iA nixos.mplayer --arg pulseSupport true
<clever> but it silently does nothing, because <nixpkgs> doesnt accept such a flag, and .mplayer isnt a function
<CMCDragonkai> right yea, that is actually pretty confusing
<clever> nix-env -iA nixos.mplayer --arg config '{ pulseaudio = true; }' is one option (the default.nix defaults the pulseSupport flag to config.pulseaudio)
<CMCDragonkai> especially given that when you go for the package, the package itself is a function that is called by `callPackage`
<clever> nix-env -iA nixos.mplayer.override --arg pulseSupport true, should also work, because .override is now a function, but it might give trouble
<clever> and in either case, youll forget what you did 6 months down the road, and `nix-env -u mplayer` will undo the override
<clever> so its better to put such a thing into config.nix, so it persists
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #72960 → cadaver: Enable readline support → https://git.io/JeaoX
<CMCDragonkai> clever: given that `makeNetboot` is not part of the exposed interface
<CMCDragonkai> clever: what do you suggest?
<CMCDragonkai> clever: I want to use it while passing in my own module
<CMCDragonkai> without having to override the rest of the netboot configuration
<clever> 101 makeNetboot = { module, system, ... }:
<clever> 105 modules = makeModules module {};
<clever> 39 makeModules = module: rest: [ configuration versionModule module rest ];
<clever> 6 , configuration ? {}
<clever> 141 netboot = forMatchingSystems [ "x86_64-linux" "aarch64-linux" ] (system: makeNetboot {
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<clever> CMCDragonkai: the simplest option, is nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos/release.nix>' -A netboot.x86_64-linux --arg configuration '{ nixos config here; }'
<clever> and if the cfg gets too long, --arg configuration 'import ./configuration.nix'
<CMCDragonkai> that module is combined with the existing minimal netboot configuration right?
<CMCDragonkai> requiring force overrides for somethings?
<clever> disabledModules may help you there
<CMCDragonkai> what's that?
<clever> CMCDragonkai: or you can just reproduce the symlinkJoin part, and reference a subset of the netboot modules: https://github.com/cleverca22/nixos-configs/blob/master/netboot_server.nix#L7-L19
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<CMCDragonkai> clever: I'm also thinking of replacing the mingetty for sddm graphical login
<CMCDragonkai> clever: apparently sddm also can autologin
<CMCDragonkai> is there any conflict between the setting `services.mingetty.autologinUser = "nixos";` and `services.xserver.displayManager.auto.user`?
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<clever> nope
<clever> it will just be auto-logged in on ctrl+alt+f1
<clever> which nobody will notice if they dont switch to it
<CMCDragonkai> ok i see
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #72961 → nixos/awstats: drop module → https://git.io/Jeaob
<CMCDragonkai> clever: why is xauth disabled in netboot? `cannot enable X11 forwarding without setting xauth location`
<clever> CMCDragonkai: did you services.xserver.enable = true; ?
<CMCDragonkai> apparently due to
<CMCDragonkai> `error: The option `programs.ssh.setXAuthLocation' has conflicting definitions, in `/home/cmcdragonkai/Projects/formbay-ml-netboot/configuration.nix' and `/home/cmcdragonkai/Projects/formbay-ml-netboot/nixpkgs/nixos/modules/config/no-x-libs.nix'.`
<clever> ah, one min
<CMCDragonkai> solved it with `environment.noXlibs = false;`
<clever> yep
<CMCDragonkai> it was set to true
<clever> CMCDragonkai: that was pulled in by netboot-minimal
<CMCDragonkai> all these little things is why i'd prefer to give my own full configuration than override random things like whack-a-mole
<clever> CMCDragonkai: if you use my netboot_server.nix as an example, you can pull in just netboot-base, and skip minimal
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<red[m]> in your configuration.nix file, your systemPackages comes from "pkgs". ie, with pkgs; - or, you specify pkgs.foo...
<red[m]> How does nixos-rebuild identify which of your configured channels is passed to pkgs?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #72963 → hub: 2.12.8 -> 2.13.0 → https://git.io/Jeaoj
<red[m]> passwd as pkgs, sorry
<clever> red[m]: its always <nixpkgs>
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<clever> which maps to the nixos channel by default
<red[m]> okay - so I have done a nix-channel --add https:://etcetc/channels/nixos-19.09
<red[m]> nixos
<red[m]> so a nix-channel --list now shows:
<aanderse> red: are you still using apache httpd on nixos?
<red[m]> Yes I am
<clever> red[m]: then nixos-rebuild should be using 19.09
<clever> red[m]: note, that --add wont take effect until you --update
<aanderse> red: thanks, will be cc'ing you on an upcoming PR then
<red[m]> but when I run nixos-rebuild build-vm - as my user it seems to pick up the channel from root's profile not the unpriv user
<red[m]> yah - I did the update, but thank you for the reminder. Please make no assumptions, I'm still pretty green in how this all hangs together
<clever> red[m]: there is a nixpkgs= entry in $NIX_PATH, that points to the root channel on root
<clever> red[m]: you can always use -I nixpkgs=whatever to override things
<red[m]> (which is why I've been consuming the nixcon discovery track - esp grahamc 's talk which is what sent me down this rabbithole in the first place) ;-)
<red[m]> ahhh
<{^_^}> [nix] @nh2 opened pull request #3208 → manual: Explain `nix-env -E` without `-f` → https://git.io/JeaKJ
<red[m]> echo $NIX_PATH
<red[m]> oops, sorry
<nh2[m]> clever: infinisil ^
<clever> nh2[m]: in the first block, you say -f is given, when it isnt
<clever> nh2[m]: also, its not directly getting that magic set from nix-channel, but rather from ~/.nix-defexpr/ via some more complex rules
<clever> basically, it will recursively search ~/.nix-defexpr/ until it either finds foo/default.nix or foo.nix, then import that, and store it at the foo key
<clever> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 968 Dec 31 1969 /home/clever/.nix-defexpr/channels_root/nixos/default.nix
<clever> so this winds up at nixos=
<clever> $ cat ~/.nix-defexpr/test/foo/default.nix
<clever> import /home/clever/apps/nixpkgs
<nh2[m]> clever: oops, that's missing a `not`
<clever> nh2[m]: and this winds up at foo=
<clever> so i can nix-env -iA foo.hello, to grab from a git checkout
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #72927 → cargo-geiger: fix darwin build → https://git.io/JeazD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed to master « cargo-geiger: fix darwin build »: https://git.io/JeaKI
<nh2[m]> clever: isn't `an attribute set containing the channel names from `nix-channel --list` is passed to the expression` still correct though, because `.nix-defexpr` is where the channels are stored?
<red[m]> I guess I can do multiple -I args? like -I nixos-config=foo -I nixpkgs=/foo/bar/
<red[m]> ?
<nh2[m]> Or should I improve the wording to be more accurate?
<clever> nh2[m]: you could say it comes from the "default expressions" that are setup by nix-channel by default, and maybe have a new section explaining defexpr
<red[m]> yeah - apparently that doesn't work for me either. I wonder what's going on that this is broken for me?
<clever> red[m]: what is the exact command you used, and the full output from it?
<clever> nh2[m]: oh, and ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix is the deprecated path
<red[m]> /nix/store/m49542cs2ayn1da9dv6jxzf2qinlm5qs-nixos-vm/bin/run-wheee-vm
<clever> nh2[m]: ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix is the new path
<red[m]> there is no output in the window I call it for - it opens up a qemu windows and just continuously reboots the vm. It doesn't appear to even boot the kernel (but it's hard to tell because the reboot clears the screen immediately)
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<clever> red[m]: can you pastebin your configuration.nix and say which rev of nixpkgs your on?
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<red[m]> sure
<red[m]> [red@apophenia:~/projects/grahamc-test]$ nixos-version
<red[m]> 20.03.git.c8bfae0 (Markhor)
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/red/874ba64f72eedf20e7fb122af4318b82]$ nixos-rebuild build-vm -I nixos-config=./configuration.nix -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/c8bfae0.tar.gz
<red[m]> huh, you can do that? cool
<red[m]> lemme try that exact thing
<infinisil> I recommend using longer rev's than 7 chars long though
<red[m]> I get a different hash - but the same rebooting vm
<red[m]> /nix/store/0x4v0gk7nb6qmpfgak3aj4zpvvqcramm-nixos-vm/bin/run-wheee-vm
<infinisil> Otherwise once there's multiple rev's starting with those 7 chars it won't work anymore :)
<infinisil> (and that does indeed happen)
<clever> red[m]: it likely differs a bit due to nixpkgs not knowing its own rev, for the nixos-version baked into the image
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<nh2[m]> clever: updated wording
<infinisil> Oh damn, nixos outputs the 7 char revs :/
<red[m]> I think my main frustration is that I don't see any way to really debug it
<clever> infinisil: i think nixos is getting it from a git util to print out a short but safe rev
<clever> infinisil: via hydra
<infinisil> clever: Can't predict the future though
<clever> red[m]: its building icu and boost, was this rev on a channel?
<infinisil> The rev won't be safe once another hash has the same 7 initial chars
<clever> infinisil: yeah, the git util makes it a few characters longer, so its somewhat safe
<red[m]> umm
<red[m]> that's really interesting
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<clever> copying path '/nix/store/f7hvfim5kiqs6pxa9jk7207cndyf369w-icu4c-64.2' from 'ssh://builder@192.168.2.32'...
<clever> 404
<red[m]> what's interesting about that is that I've been working on a PR that involves those packages and I can't see any reason why they would be included in this
<clever> red[m]: your configuration.nix + rev caused an icu build, since that path isnt in the cache
<red[m]> okay - let me nuke all references to icu et al
<red[m]> and pull the latest channel
<clever> red[m]: aha, one minute!
<clever> red[m]: the rev you gave, is not even in nixos/nixpkgs!
<red[m]> holding
<clever> red[m]: your nixos-version pointed to a rev in your fork of nixpkgs!
<clever> and due to how github works, i pulled your fork without even trying, because i specified a git rev from your fork
<red[m]> okay
<red[m]> let me make sure I'm right here before I try this again
<red[m]> one moment caller
<red[m]> (and if this is it - I'll be confused as hell and will to self-flagilate)
<clever> switching to your fork confirms, its on the icu-issue-71142 branch
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to master « gom: test only on x86_64 »: https://git.io/JeaKn
<red[m]> okay - I should have switched to whatever is now live in master. Waiting for it to finish building and I'll verify the version
<red[m]> of course - if this broke it then I'm going to have to take a long, hard, look at what the PR I submitted does
<clever> building '/nix/store/9d10vsw9ndgwl3d8md4zqx2kblz80s41-nix-2.3.1.drv' on 'ssh://builder@192.168.2.32'...
<clever> red[m]: you even caused nix itself to rebuild! lol
<red[m]> I guess I'm just special? :-D <3
<red[m]> Thing is, the only reason I care about that bug is that it's blocking a package I actually DO need. I don't need it as a stand-alone package :-P
<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: red[m] looks like a good candidate for my high brow list
<red[m]> DigitalKiwi: what's a high-brow list?
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<red[m]> Okay....
<red[m]> [root@apophenia:~]# nixos-version
<red[m]> 20.03pre200231.7827d3f4497 (Markhor)
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<red[m]> testing...
<o1lo01ol1o> 22902 store paths deleted, 533678.97 MiB freed
<o1lo01ol1o> My ssd is only 500gb
<red[m]> haha
<DigitalKiwi> sweet got a laugh
<red[m]> okay, clever - /nix/store/jk0rc767i8prrdh614b7ql7is9nckwaa-nixos-vm/bin/run-wheee-vm
<red[m]> same thing - constant reboots
<clever> red[m]: still building from your fork...
<red[m]> in theory I'm back on master
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<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/red/874ba64f72eedf20e7fb122af4318b82]$ nixos-rebuild build-vm -I nixos-config=./configuration.nix -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/7827d3f4497.tar.gz -Q
<clever> red[m]: it boots perfectly here
<clever> red[m]: does /dev/kvm exist?
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<clever> red[m]: what about `lsmod | grep kvm` ?
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<red[m]> yes, and yes. kvm and kvm_intel
<clever> red[m]: try `rmmod kvm_intel` and then run the vm again
<red[m]> I'll try the exact same line you just quoted - one moment
<red[m]> okay
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<red[m]> well shit
<red[m]> that did it
<red[m]> what on Earth
<clever> red[m]: the kvm driver in your host is possibly busted
<clever> red[m]: so any accelerated guest is failing
<red[m]> apparently so
<red[m]> maybe a full reboot is in order and try again
<red[m]> but this helps me a tonne - thank you :-D
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<red[m]> clever: yup - that's exactly it. None of my Windows VMs will start up on this machine anymore either. Looks like I have some research to do.
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<clever> red[m]: sounds like you need to bisect the host, ever done a git bisect before?
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<red[m]> I have not
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<red[m]> I know what the principle is - but I've not used the tooling to do it
<selfsymmetric-mu> Oh you're in luck. git bisect is a lot of fun, the trouble is finding an excuse to use it.
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<red[m]> haha, I apparently have the best excuse now ;-)
<selfsymmetric-mu> Write a script that returns exit code 0 if it's working and something else otherwise.
<selfsymmetric-mu> Then `git bisect <script>` and watch it find the breaking revision.
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<selfsymmetric-mu> Excuse me, `git bisect run <script>`
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<red[m]> It's going to be especially problematic since I have to reboot on every iteration
<red[m]> since this is a kernel / hardware issue
<selfsymmetric-mu> Ah okay you'll have to do it manually then with `git bisect start`.
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<red[m]> lemme switch to stable - brb
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<red[m]> okay - time to rewind time - wish me luck - back in about a year :-/
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<evils> is the combination of `dontWrapGApps = true;` and `preFixup = "wrapGApp ...";` supposed to work?
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<rotaerk> hmm I have a USB stick that had a NixOS v16 image on it, and I successfully booted from it
<DigitalKiwi> i don't like where this is going
<selfsymmetric-mu> XD
<rotaerk> but then I decided I wanted the latest, so I downloaded nixos-minimal-19.09.1019.c5aabb0d603-x86_64-linux.iso and ran: sudo dd if=nixos-minimal-19.09.1019.c5aabb0d603-x86_64-linux.iso of=/dev/sdd
<rotaerk> tried booting from that but ... it just shows a blinking cursor in the top left
<rotaerk> any idea why?
<rotaerk> I may have originally formatted the USB drive from windows before; not sure. should I reformat it before doing dd?
<rotaerk> the manual doesn't say anything like that
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<red[m]> rotaerk: no - if you dd'd the image - you did in fact blow the entire contents away
<DigitalKiwi> i always use `bs=4M` or 8M (possibly lowercase m) but other than make it go a lot faster it shouldn't change anything idk. make sure to `sync` or use the option to dd that makes it sync
<red[m]> are you sure that USB booting is enabled?
<red[m]> and is in the appropriate order?
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<clever> red[m]: given that he booted an older nixos image from the same usb just before...
<rotaerk> it *is* trying to boot from the USB
<rotaerk> it's just that when it does, it just shows a blinking cursor.
<rotaerk> when I booted from v16, I got a menu to choose to boot NixOS
<clever> rotaerk: is the bios using legacy or efi?
<rotaerk> UEFI; I could enable legacy though, I think
<rotaerk> new laptop
<clever> rotaerk: try booting from the usb in efi mode
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<rotaerk> k, let's see...
<red[m]> rotaerk: if you successfully booted from the v16 usb you can do that and then just upgrade ... NixOS isn't like some other distributions where upgrades are unpredictable.
<red[m]> rotaerk: but I think we're all curious what your issue is though :::-)
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<rotaerk> too late for the 16 one :P
<clever> rotaerk: can always re-download it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fpletz pushed 7 commits to gcc-9: https://git.io/JeaiT
<rotaerk> when I start the system, and go to my boot options, I can pick from: USB Hard Drive(UEFI) (PNY USB 3.0 FD 1.00), OS Boot Manager(UEFI) (windows), USB CD/DVD ROM Drive(UEFI) (PNY USB 3.0 FD 1.00), Boot From EFI File
<clever> rotaerk: if efi is failing, you could try forcing a legacy boot instead, you may need to turn on the CSM
<rotaerk> I picked the last one, but then it has me pick a file ... I can pick one from my SSD, or from either partition of the USB stick
<rotaerk> I chose <EFI>/<boot>/bootx64.efi
<rotaerk> there's also a refind_x64.efi in there
<clever> rotaerk: try both of them?
<rotaerk> the bootx64 one gave me the same cursor problem. the refind one gives me a menu... let's see
<rotaerk> ah k, the refind one worked. from that menu I picked something about a bzImage
<clever> rotaerk: sounds like some weird edgecases with efi
<rotaerk> ... or not; it started to boot into linux, and then gave some mounting errors
<rotaerk> mounting /dev/root on /mnt-root/iso failed: no such file or directory
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<clever> rotaerk: try legacy mode then, it sounds like the efi menu is booting the kernel with the wrong flags
<rotaerk> k
<rotaerk> well that worked; I'm in a shell
<rotaerk> now ... as I understand it, if legacy mode is enabled, I can't boot into Windows 10. I would like both nixos and windows on this thing, so ... hopefully that won't be a problem
<clever> rotaerk: you can then either continue with a legacy install, or use boot.loader.grub.efiInstallAsRemovable=true; to do an efi install while booted into legacy
<DigitalKiwi> plot twist: efi shell
<rotaerk> ah cool
<clever> rotaerk: efiInstallAsRemovable lets you do an efi install, preferably you should use a second ESP for nixos, then the bios should let you pick which ESP to boot (ideally)
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<rotaerk> k, I'll try for that
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<rotaerk> hmm yay, my network connection didn't come up, and wpa_supplicant isn't working
<rotaerk> it's trying to open /dev/fd/63 for some reason, but that doesn't exist
<clever> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 1 14:01 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
<clever> rotaerk: /proc/self is an alias to the pid of whichever process tries to read it
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<rotaerk> ok
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<rotaerk> would `wpa_supplicant -B -i interface -c <(wpa_passphrase 'SSID' 'key')` work with WPA2 or do I need to do additional work for that
<clever> rotaerk: it should work
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<rotaerk> ah, found something saying I shouldn't run that under sudo, because < doesn't work as expected with sudo
<rotaerk> so running it under an actual root shell, I get the real error...
<clever> rotaerk: oh, < should work with sudo, but <(...) wont
<rotaerk> ah
<clever> <(...) will create a pipe, and let sudo inherit that pipe
<clever> but then sudo wont pass that pipe on to wpa_supplicant
<rotaerk> I see
<rotaerk> so the real error is: nl80211: Driver does not support authentication/association or connect commands
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<rotaerk> hmm, `iw dev` output is empty...
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<clever> rotaerk: then you dont have any wireless devices (or no drivers)
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<rotaerk> the laptop definitely does, though I may have to load the driver module manually
<rotaerk> problem is ... I have no idea how to determine which module that should be
<clever> rotaerk: what does lspci say?
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<rotaerk> I think the relevant one is: 6f:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 2723 (rev 1a)
<clever> rotaerk: that looks like an ethernet card
<clever> rotaerk: not entirely clear though
<clever> rotaerk: with `lspci -vv`, does it show a `Kernel driver in use` ?
<rotaerk> the laptop lacks an ethernet port
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<rotaerk> with -vv, below that "Network controller" it says: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9560 802.11 AC 2x2 WiFi + BT 5 Combo Adapter
<clever> ah
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<rotaerk> I do see at the bottom of the wall of text for each device, it has a "Kernel driver in use" line, but I don't see one for the network controller
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<clever> rotaerk: then youll need to find out which driver you need on linux
<clever> rotaerk: try `modprobe iwlwifi` and see what happens
<rotaerk> yeah I actually just did that
<rotaerk> it completed without complaint, though `iw dev` is still blank
<clever> rotaerk: did it leave any errors in dmesg?
<rotaerk> the last two lines of dmesg say "Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux - Copyright blah blah"
<rotaerk> no error
<clever> rotaerk: lspci -nn
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<clever> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 8265 / 8275 [8086:24fd] (rev 78)
<clever> it will include a vendor and productid at the end
<rotaerk> [8086:2723]
<clever> $ modinfo iwlwifi | grep --color 8086 | grep --color 24fd -i
<clever> alias: pci:v00008086d000024FDsv*sd00009074bc*sc*i*
<clever> rotaerk: and i can see that vid and pid in the aliases of iwlwifi
<clever> but 2723 isnt in iwlwifi, so it wont work with that driver
<rotaerk> hmm
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<rotaerk> they mention 2723 there, and one of the responses say it's supported in kernel 5.2
<rotaerk> but the kernel in this nixos iso is 4.19.81
<clever> module = ./modules/installer/cd-dvd/installation-cd-minimal-new-kernel.nix;
<rotaerk> I just downloaded my current iso off the nixos.org downloads site. I'm not sure how to use *that*
<clever> boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_latest;
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<clever> > linux_latest
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/5zb59dflm1916lpy9blg30gg6sn95xq5-linux-5.3.9.drv>"
<clever> rotaerk: yep, thats 5.3
<zeta_0> hello guys, where is the link to install python(besides the wiki)?
<zeta_0> i can't seem to find it
<clever> rotaerk: comparing https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined to https://howoldis.herokuapp.com to see which eval has a stable rev...
<clever> rotaerk: that is the linux 5.3 iso image, for the current build of nixos-unstable
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<zeta_0> i am not sure where to find the installation steps through the wiki ?
* clever heads off to bed
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<zeta_0> never mind, i finally found where to go
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<rotaerk> oo, I'm back
<rotaerk> sorry, clever; lost my internet connection for a little while
<rotaerk> I can read back through what you said though; thanks!
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<rotaerk> well what do you know ... I didn't need legacy support for this ISO. also apparently I could've pulled that ISO from the official downloads page, if I'd only gone to the very bottom and clicked the "unstable releases" link
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed 24 commits to nixos-19.09-small: https://git.io/JeaX2
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<bdju> am I able to set user_allow_other as a fuse setting in my configuration.nix?
<bdju> I searched and it sounds like it was being worked on. I'm on unstable, so hopefully I can use it if it's in
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<bdju> nixos just hung. out of memory maybe but it was barely using the swap
<bdju> I saw the clock was a couple minutes behind and decided it was never gonna unfreeze
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<rotaerk> clever, got the wifi working. using that ISO fixed everything except one thing: I'd never used wpa_supplicant before and I didn't bother to actually understand the arguments, so I didn't realize I was supposed to put the acctual interface name after -i ... fixed that
<DigitalKiwi> <3 clever
<{^_^}> clever's karma got increased to 234
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ashkitten opened pull request #72966 → dolphinEmuMaster: 5.0-10879 -> 5.0-11109 → https://git.io/Jea1L
<ashkitten> THUNK
<ashkitten> glowing-bear's notification sound is so absurdly loud
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<ashkitten> every time i make a pull request
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<oscarvarto> Hi! I do use bloop for scala development. I haven't found a way to pass/write jvmopts that I need.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #72869 → icu: bugfix #71142 - Fixes icu-config reporting bad location → https://git.io/Jeaq9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/Jea1M
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<bdju> what can I put in my config to improve my temperatures on a ThinkPad T440p?
<etu> bdju: Do you run tlp?
<bdju> nope
<bdju> haven't really dealt with the problem at all yet. just starting to look stuff up
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<bdju> any thoughts on using thermald and thinkfan also? can I use all three together or do I choose some over others?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed 52 commits to nixpkgs-19.09-darwin: https://git.io/JeaML
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<balsoft> Hello! Can somebody explain to me how do xlibs even build? It appears that there is a dependency cycle (xorgproto -> libXt -> libSM -> libICE). It somehow works with regular nixpkgs, but not with pkgsStatic.
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<bdju> I've enabled thermald and tlp now. not sure if I have to do further configuration
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<colemickens> bdju: I recently added tlp config that switches cpu governors on AC/BAT change and things got a lot better.
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<colemickens> I actually get performance/powersave now on AC/BAT, whereas before I was always on one or the other. Embarrasingly for quite a while I think :|
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<Miyu-saki> I was just messing around with power management this week.
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<Ariakenom> is there no option to disable hibernation? I was locking at "randomEncryption" for swap files which breaks hibernation.
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<arianvp> Check out logind config
<arianvp> There you can configure sleep and hibernation
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<Ariakenom> arianvp: does that interact nicely with plasma?
<Ariakenom> I think no.
<bdju> I notice my ethernet is repeatedly reconnectin. I can even see the text change between "activate" and "deactivate" in nmtui. how do I find out if it's a software or hardware problem?
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<colemickens> Seems like when I try to use unstable on GCE, I get locked out on upgrades or after some time or something. (locked out = removed from sudoers, despite having the same IAM permission as always)
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<bdju> it looks like my ethernet is stable after stopping the dhcpcd service, but I can't disable it because of read-only file system or something. on unstable
<bdju> iirc networkmanager starts dhcpcd so I don't need it starting itself. looks like it was causing problems
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<hpfr[m]> How can I assign a variable to a set but override an attribute of the set
<dminuoso> hpfr[m]: What does "assign a variable to a set" even mean?
<hpfr[m]> Whoops hah, assign a set to a variable
<hpfr[m]> I.e. x = {a = 0; b = 1}; but override b somehow, as I’m referencing the set via a variable
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<arianvp> Ariakenom: what does plasma have to do with suspend and hibernation?
<manveru> > {a = 0; b = 1;} // {a = 2;}
<{^_^}> { a = 2; b = 1; }
<hpfr[m]> Oh an operator thanks
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<arianvp> Afaik systemd handles all power management on nixos
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<Ariakenom> arianvp: I read "A different application may disable logind's handling of system power and sleep keys and the lid switch by taking a low-level inhibitor lock ("handle-power-key", "handle-suspend-key", "handle-hibernate-key", "handle-lid-switch"). This is most commonly used by graphical desktop environments to take over suspend and hibernation handling, and to use their own configuration mechanisms."
<arianvp> Ah
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<arianvp> There's a chapter About inhibition of KDE
<arianvp> Arch wiki hopefully saves the day *takes look*
<arianvp> So yeh I guess you'll have to look what power manager KDE uses?
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<arianvp> Ugh Linux haha
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<ZoomZoomZoom> G'day! Anyone using bcachefs here?
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<ZoomZoomZoom> I have an issue with automounting multidevice pool. As far as I understand, bcachefs needs the used partitions to be listed with the colon separator for the fstab. Unfortunately, it seems that NixOS passes the same string to the fsck, which needs all the partitions split by whitespace. Is it a bug, or I am doing something wrong?
<ZoomZoomZoom> Please, don't answer "yeah, using bcachefs" :)
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<etu> ZoomZoomZoom: Rather you than me ;) Tbh I'm quite interested in the bcachefs development and hope to use it in the future. But haven't tried it at all yet.
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<etu> ZoomZoomZoom: But it's good that people test things!
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeaym
<bahamas> does anyone know a project that allows you to write terraform config files in nix? I remember seeing it somewhere, but I don't remember where or its name
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « Disable the evalNixOS test »: https://git.io/Jeay3
<ZoomZoomZoom> etu, I have a bunch of old hdds which aren't so much usable separately. I figured it would be nice to put them to good use and test bcachefs pool on some unimportant data.
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<talqu> hi, when i launch nixos there are 4 seconds time where i can choose previous versions. Is there a way to reduce it to 1 second let's say, so there is still time to move the arrow in case i'd like to select an older version?
<manveru> talqu: you using grub?
<manveru> either way, `boot.loader.timeout` should set it
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<talqu> manveru: im using efi
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<xwvvvvwx> bahamas: https://terranix.org/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fgaz opened pull request #72968 → shattered-pixel-dungeon: 0.7.5e -> 0.7.5f → https://git.io/JeayF
<colemickens> So I was messing around and clobbered my store and removed my system configs and the tree package.
<Ariakenom> how should I set up disk encryption? there is both boot.initrd.luks and fileSystems.<name?>.encrypted
<colemickens> I have live media booted, but I can't figure out the right invocation. Nixos-enter doesn't seem to work.
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<symphorien> nixos-install is idempotent so you should be able to use it
<colemickens> Hm that's what I thought. Okay back to trying that
<colemickens> Oh right, it fails on an assert somehow.
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<colemickens> Hm, nix-build --repair throws the same assert :/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst opened pull request #72969 → firefox-esr v52: build on Hydra → https://git.io/JeaSq
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<ZoomZoomZoom> So, I filed a bug report #72970. Seems I need to learn nix after all to be able to fix such issues. :(
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/72970 (by ZoomRmc, 2 minutes ago, open): fsck and mount systemd units fail on multidevice bcachefs filesystem
<kenran> I'm using cabal2nix to create a nix expression for an older Haskell project. Now I can't build it because it seems like a runtime dependency of one package is missing. I'll check the newest version of that package on nixos/nixpkgs, and if it's still not there, is that considered a bug in that package's expression, or should I change anything on my part then?
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<dminuoso> kenran: cabal2nix doesn't actually check with nixpkgs.
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<danbst> ^^^ RE story about firefox-esr v52: I had to get my money from my bank ASAP, but bank site uses Java-applet. So I had a special FF v52 installed with Java plugin. It turned out, that Glibc version on my system did change, and old installed firefox stopped working. Unfortunately I've already removed old NixOS generations with old glibc version. So I
<danbst> ended up with segfaulting Firefox v52. I've tried to reinstall it again, but now Oracle JDK is paid so I couldn't download it. To make things worse, Firefox 52 is now required to be built from source
<danbst> so I haven't got my money that day...
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<xd1le> no way java applet site in 2019?
<xd1le> or was this a while ago
<danbst> glibc version change, Oracle shit, old bank software, firefox not in binary cache, too fast removed old NixOS generation
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<xd1le> yeah should be a while ago even debian stable ff esr is past v52
<danbst> bank did release new software version for Windows, but it doesn't work through Wine
<danbst> in the end I did recompile Firefox x52
<danbst> * v52
<danbst> it worked with icedtea
<xd1le> java..
* xd1le shudders
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<xd1le> oh i just saw the pr, sites with java applets in 2019 yikes
<danbst> If PR won't be merged, I'll change my primary bank
<xd1le> haha
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #72971 → Ruplacer 0.4.1 → https://git.io/JeaSD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed to release-19.09 « python3Packages.todoist: 7.0.17 -> 8.1.1 »: https://git.io/JeaSy
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<niso> did someone manage to nicely integrate hydra with gerrit?
<__monty__> Ok, so I'm trying to fix this wpa_supplicant issue: http://ix.io/2100 This is the part of my configuration.nix relevant to networking: http://ix.io/2108 And this is the service file from the nix store that causes the problem: http://ix.io/214k It's looping over all devices and somehow picking up my bond even though it shouldn't, afaict. Do I understand this correctly? And if so, how do I influence the
<__monty__> generation of this unit?
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « Fix macOS build »: https://git.io/JeaSx
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<{^_^}> nix#2405 (by cleverca22, 1 year ago, closed): builtins.fetchTarball breaks under local?root=
<colemickens> :(
<tilpner> colemickens: What's wrong there?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #70417 → cocoapods: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.4 → https://git.io/JeCeB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jea94
<wedens[m]> I've wasted a lot of time recently due to this issue :(
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<wedens[m]> it prevents you from bootstrapping the system if you use fetchTarball anywhere in your configuration
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pasqui23 opened pull request #72973 → home-manager:2019-10-23 -> 2019-10-29 → https://git.io/Jea9r
<wedens[m]> and the error doesn't help with detecting the problem
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « Fix Perl bindings »: https://git.io/Jea96
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @isgy opened pull request #72974 → Add the missing pyjson5 module → https://git.io/Jea99
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<colemickens> Disabled http references and then nixos-install worked as normal.
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<wedens[m]> I had to convert all fetchTarball to NIX_PATH references
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<Synthetica> Probably a Firefox bug, right?
<wedens[m]> yes
<wedens[m]> some plugin probably?
<wedens[m]> also try deleting cache
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<balsoft> Another static compilation question: is compiling glib statically possible with musl? After fixing cracklib, I get the following: https://0x0.st/zg06.txt
<balsoft> Any idea if this is fixable?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @manveru opened pull request #72975 → Init pghero → https://git.io/JeaHL
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<wedens[m]> balsoft: `doCheck = false` perhaps? if "Can not run test applications in this cross environment" is not a red herring
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<balsoft> I think it means other sort of test applications
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<balsoft> Yeah, still fails with `doCheck = false`
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<Ariakenom> how should I set up disk encryption? there is both boot.initrd.luks and fileSystems.<name?>.encrypted and I dont know how they relate
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<isgy[m]> hi all, the automated checks for my PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/72974 are failing and I'm not sure why
<{^_^}> #72974 (by isgy, 36 minutes ago, open): Add the missing pyjson5 module
<Shoubit> Ariakenom, to answer your first question, maybe this helps? https://gist.github.com/ladinu/bfebdd90a5afd45dec811296016b2a3f
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<bdju> what do I need for pcmanfm to let me click a flash drive in the side panel to mount it? currently it doesn't show at all
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<bdju> manveru: nice! thanks
<manveru> bdju: don't forget to re-login after the changes so the environment is set
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<evils> isgy[m]: you should read the details, you made a syntax error in the maintainer-list.nix
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<bdju> manveru: hm. I exited sway, logged out of the tty I was in, logged back in. still not working. I guess I'll reboot, and it that doesn't do it I'll try the other suggestion
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<manveru> bdju: what config did you set?
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<bdju> the long environment line
<manveru> it should look like this
<bdju> hm. even after adding the other parts it isn't working
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<manveru> well, that's what i just tried and it works for me :)
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<bdju> I believe the issue was the drive being ntfs! I noticed an errer in the console after rebooting with it left in. tried another drive and it works
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 closed pull request #72555 → topgrade: init at 3.2.0 → https://git.io/JegEP
<wedens[m]> `services.gvfs.enable = true` should be enough
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @filalex77 opened pull request #72976 → topgrade: init at 3.3.0 → https://git.io/JeaQs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut opened pull request #72977 → appimageTools: add at-spi2-core to multiPkgs → https://git.io/JeaQZ
<balsoft> Hey, how can I fix `[...]/bin/x86_64-unknown-linux-musl-ld: cannot find -lgcc_s` ? I can't fing libgcc_s anywhere.
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<wedens[m]> `ddkfn28jz1xhn7czbxrliiq3ap4m5mln-gcc-8.3.0-lib/lib/libgcc_s.so` `giwspqvibxxkiz9w9p2d1d8af1fxbxf8-glibc-2.27/lib/libgcc_s.so.1`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to master « nixosTests.libxmlb: port to python »: https://git.io/JeaQl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed to master « all-tests.nix: remove libxmlb »: https://git.io/JeaQB
<balsoft> This is a dynamic version
<balsoft> Oh, sorry, question was unclear
<balsoft> I need `libgcc_s.a`
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<wedens[m]> it shouldn't need it with static..
<jgt> Nix gives me a bunch of Haskell packages which are visible in ghc-pkg list. Many of these packages are transitive dependencies, and not packages I depend on directly. Is there a way to hide some of these transitive dependencies from ghc-pkg list?
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<inf> quick question - a friend of mine is trying to install nixos on a machine with misconfigured RTC (year 2117 :)) - is there a way to force NTP synchronization with timesyncd in nixos installer?
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<inf> Can't use timesyncctl set-time because ntp is enabled, and can't disable ntp because "Failed to set ntp: Changing system settings via systemd is not supported on NixOS."
<inf> s/timesync/timedate/g
<balsoft> wedens: The full error is https://0x0.st/zgGz.txt
<balsoft> This is an attempt to build libusb statically
<wedens[m]> inf: is `systemctl start systemd-timedated.service` available?
<balsoft> s/libusb/libusb1/
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<exfalso> Hi, I'm using nixops and would like to attach some metadata to each node, purely to be used by other nodes for config. Is there a standard place to put such data?
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<exfalso> Or, rephrase, is there any place where we can put arbitrary data into the nixos configuration?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JohnAZoidberg opened pull request #72978 → twmn: Use QT's makeDerivation → https://git.io/JeaQ7
<qyliss> exfalso: you can define your own options, if that helps?
<wedens[m]> you can create your own module
<balsoft> wedens: to reproduce, `nix-shell -p "pkgsStatic.libusb1.override { systemd = eudev // {lib = eudev;}; }"`
<balsoft> (bcs systemd won't build statically)
<exfalso> How do I do that? We are already using a nixpkgs fork, is there a less invasive way to extend the configuratoin?
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<wedens[m]> balsoft: `NIX_LDFLAGS = stdenv.lib.optionalString stdenv.isLinux "-lgcc_s";` in libusb1 derivation
<balsoft> wedens: Thank you, will try!
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<exfalso> ah, got it, imports = [..]
<exfalso> thanks!
<wedens[m]> balsoft: i mean try to get rid of it
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<wedens[m]> also why not set `systemd = null`?
<balsoft> It requires libsystemd
<balsoft> And fails without it I believe
<balsoft> Or I might mistake it for something else
<balsoft> I've patched a lot of packages to work with pkgsStatic today
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed 79 commits to nixos-19.09: https://git.io/Jea7I
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #72979 → More gnome installed test cleanup → https://git.io/Jea7O
<balsoft> wedens: the error persists even though I've removed the -lgcc_s from NIX_LDFLAGS
<wedens[m]> something may be wrong (or just not designed for musl) in libusb1 build files:shrug:
<wedens[m]> perhaps you need to add some flags
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72525 → gcab: 1.2 -> 1.3 → https://git.io/Jeg4N
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/Jea7Z
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<balsoft> wedens: WHEW, built it
<balsoft> I can't explain how
<balsoft> But it's built
<balsoft> Onto the next error
<balsoft> Thank you for the help
<balsoft> wedens++
<{^_^}> wedens's karma got increased to 1
<Aleksejs> hi, is there any package in nixos that allows to merge multiple pdf documents?
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<wedens[m]> Aleksejs: pdfunite from poppler_utils
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<Aleksejs> wedens[m]: I tried it: error: undefined variable 'poppler-utils'
<hyper_ch2> or pdftk
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<hyper_ch2> pdftk allows you to merge specific pages in different pdfs if you want
<Aleksejs> hyper_ch2: I'll try it, thanks!
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<wedens[m]> Aleksejs: it's poppler_utils. with underscore
<balsoft> Now hidapi won't link... So close, only 4 packages remaining to fix.
<hyper_ch2> Aleksejs: I used pdftk to create some helper tools with pdf management in kde :)
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<steevveen> HI! Lately I read about the shell 'eshell' or 'EmacsShell' , as a shell replacement. Wanted to try it. I have searched Nixos Packages page, but was unsuccessful to find a package for it.
<steevveen> Is anyone of you using Eshell , and knowing if there an existing package for Eshell ?
<wedens[m]> it's built in emacs
<steevveen> that means I can only use it inside emacs ?
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<wedens[m]> it's not your regular shell like fish or zsh
<wedens[m]> yes
<steevveen> Thanks for this crucial detail ;-)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra opened pull request #72980 → rustc: 1.38.0 -> 1.39.0 → https://git.io/Jea7o
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<iclanzan> Can anyone help me figure out why a remote builder is not being used? Things I have done: enabled `nix.distributedBuilds` and set up `nix.buildMachines` in `configuration.nix`, checked that `ping-store` works for the remote store from both regular user and root, tried nixos-rebuild both with and without `--builders` flag but it always gives the error: "either increase --max-jobs or enable remote builds"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed commit from @Ma27 to nixpkgs-19.09-darwin « python3Packages.todoist: 7.0.17 -> 8.1.1 »: https://git.io/JeaSy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72979 → More gnome installed test cleanup → https://git.io/Jea7O
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 14 commits to master: https://git.io/Jea5T
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<symphorien> iclanzan: did you restart the nix daemon each time you changed its configuration ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #72963 → hub: 2.12.8 -> 2.13.0 → https://git.io/Jeaoj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jea5s
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Zimmi48 opened pull request #72981 → Fix allowUnfreePredicate example following the introduction of pname. → https://git.io/Jea5c
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<Highlander> hi all --- any trick to use a variable with import?
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<highlander3> hi all --- any trick to use a variable with import?
<pie_> whoa more than 1000 users in the channel
<pie_> highlander3: import variable_here?
<highlander3> pie_: does it work for you?
<highlander3> I want to import systme.hostanem + ".nix" cca
<pie_> highlander3: your problem is very vague so i dont know whats doing on
<pie_> i mean your problem statement is very vague
<highlander3> pie_: I need to use a variable within the import statement
<pie_> whats the error you get
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<highlander3> pie_: when I do just import variable I get error: string 'a' doesn't represent an absolute path, at (string):1:1
<pie_> i think thats pretty clear :P
<pie_> paste the line of code
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<iclanzan> symphorien: doesn’t `nixos-rebuild switch` do that automatically?
<symphorien> not sure
<symphorien> I've been bitten by this before, anyway
<highlander3> pie_: https://pastebin.com/geunEH4n
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<pie_> highlander3: order of operations :P
<highlander3> pie_: what do you mean?
<pie_> import binds stronger than +
<pie_> add parens around the addition expression
<Shoubit> highlander3, I think you want something like `import (./foo + "${bar}") {};`
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<iclanzan> symphorien: I restarted nix-daemon.service manually and made no difference
<pie_> Shoubit: you only want the {} at the end if the import is a function and you want to call it like that
<Shoubit> highlander3, there's also this helpful Gist for path concatenation in general https://gist.github.com/CMCDragonkai/de84aece83f8521d087416fa21e34df4
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<Shoubit> pie_, that's true
<pie_> oh thats a helpful gist, i forgot about it
<pie_> do we have a "list of helpful gists" somewhere >_>
<symphorien> if you find it helpful, maybe move it the wiki
<pie_> my mind is elsewhere
<pie_> but thats an idea
<pie_> ,help
<{^_^}> Use `,` to list all commands, `,foo = Foo!` to define foo as "Foo!", `,foo =` to undefine it, `,foo` to output "Foo!", `,foo somebody` to send "Foo!" to the nick somebody
<{^_^}> pathconcat defined
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @WilliButz merged pull request #72904 → nixos/tests: port some tests to python (loki, grafana, pgjwt, initrd-ssh, exporters) → https://git.io/Jea4x
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @WilliButz pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/Jea55
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<jamii> Hi, I have a file generated by crate2nix which causes a stack overflow when built. How do I debug this? `--show-trace` doesn't seem to have any effect.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #72977 → appimageTools: add at-spi2-core to multiPkgs → https://git.io/JeaQZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor pushed commit from @lattfein to release-19.09 « appimageTools: add at-spi2-core to multiPkgs »: https://git.io/Jeadw
<iclanzan> Does anyone know why remote building is not working with `nixos-rebuild --builders` even though `nix build --builders` works?
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<inkbottle> shell.nix: https://paste.debian.net/1115055/; Then I'm supposed to type: "nix-shell" and that's it? (ref: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/bs-platform-install/1520/3; I'm struggling like hell)
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<inkbottle> w. the above, I'm supposed to do: "npm install bs-platform"
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<iclanzan> Found out the problem! I needed to add `big-parallel` to supportedFeatures. (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/24914#issuecomment-392319109)
<inkbottle> (what's funny, is that I did succeed to have it 2 days ago, can't figure how I did that)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor merged pull request #71849 → nixos-rebuild: add explicit option to enable (remote) sudo → https://git.io/Je0WG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor pushed to master « nixos-rebuild: add explicit option to enable (remote) sudo »: https://git.io/JeaFJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjornfor closed pull request #71788 → Revert "nixos-rebuild: support sudo + --target-host" → https://git.io/Je0ko
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<cwiggs> Can someone explain why shellcheck shows up when searching by -A, but not without -A?
<cwiggs> ```
<cwiggs> $ nix-env -qaP shellcheckerror: selector 'shellcheck' matches no derivations╔ | 1 | 09:15:10 | M272544UQG8WL | ~/.dotfiles (master)╚═ $ nix-env -qaPA nixpkgs.shellchecknixpkgs.shellcheck ShellCheck-0.7.0
<cwiggs> $ nix-env -qaP shellcheckerror: selector 'shellcheck' matches no derivationsnix-env -qaPA nixpkgs.shellchecknixpkgs.shellcheck ShellCheck-0.7.0
<cwiggs> Wow, sorry this IRC client I'm using doesn't work well with pasting snippets.
<cwiggs> `nix-env -qaP shellcheck` doesn't find shellcheck, but `nix-env -qaPA nixpkgs.shellcheck` does.
<cwiggs> I think I'm not understanding the -attr(-A) flag.
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<balsoft> Hmm, I'm stuck on the next lib after libusb... It's hidapi. For some reason the linker decided to use the .so and therefore fail with "attempted static link of dynamic object". The .a for libusb is in the same folder as .so, and the linker selects all the other libs correctly.
<red[m]> I'm just finishing watching the nix-officehours from last week and as much as I'd like to help, I need at least another year of baking in this environment :-)
<red[m]> ... but it is something I would like to look at helping with in the future.
<balsoft> cwiggs: Probably because the name is different from attr name?
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<balsoft> Yep, the name is ShellCheck
<balsoft> Try `nix-env -qaP ShellCheck`
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<balsoft> (But I hate nix-env and advise you use home-manager-as-a-module and environment.systemPackages instead if you're on nixos, and standalone home-manager otherwise)
<cwiggs> balsoft, ahhh that does work, thank you. Didn't know it was case sensative
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<cwiggs> I'm just using nixos as a package manager on MacOS
<cwiggs> I'll check out home-manager
<cwiggs> I'm writing a bash script to install all the pkgs I need for my mac, replacing homebrew.
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<red[m]> what is home-manager-as-a-module ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @juaningan opened pull request #72986 → gnome2.gnome_vfs: openssl-1.1 patch → https://git.io/JeaFw
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<artfunpot> Need help! when i tried to go into nix-shell, i am getting this error.
<artfunpot> ```getting attributes of path '/home/phoenix/.nix-defexpr/channels/nixpkgs/nixos/doc/manual/options-to-docbook.xsl': No such file or directory```
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cptrodolfox closed pull request #72985 → Update hapistrano → https://git.io/JeadN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cptrodolfox reopened pull request #72985 → Update hapistrano → https://git.io/JeadN
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<balsoft> red: you can use home-manager as a nixos module, try it out if you haven't already, it's absolutely amazing.
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<cwiggs> What about this one: `nix-env -qaPA nixpkgs.haskellPackages.hadolint` works
<cwiggs> It shows `nixpkgs.haskellPackages.hadolint hadolint-1.17.2`
<cwiggs> `nix-env -qaP hadolint-1.17.2` and `nix-env -qaP hadolint` doesn't show anything
<cwiggs> the package is `hadolint-1.17.2` all lowercase
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<flacks> hi all, anyone using nixos with the pinebook pro? and/or the rockpro64?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj opened pull request #72987 → Dnschain → https://git.io/JeaFy
<balsoft> cwiggs: I guess this might be related to the fact that non-toplevel packages are not listed sometimes?
<Taneb> Oooh, I like the new nixpkgs manual contents
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<balsoft> Like haskellPackages are not listed in `nix search` results I believe
<balsoft> This might come from the same cause
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<cwiggs> Hm okay, maybe I should just use the attr name to install all my packages?
<balsoft> Only the top-level derivations are evaluated while searching for packages
<red[m]> balsoft: I've never heard of home-manager at all - I'll take a look
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #72388 → ocamlPackages.lwt3: remove at 3.3.0 → https://git.io/Jez5S
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<balsoft> cwiggs: if you choose to stick with `nix-env` (which I again do not recommend), then yes, use attr names.
<cwiggs> Understood, thanks.
<cwiggs> I checked out home-manager a little bit
<balsoft> Can someone perhaps help me with my static linking shenanigans?
<balsoft> Sorry for sending the message again, but: For some reason the linker decided to use the .so and therefore fail with "attempted static link of dynamic object". The .a for libusb is in the same folder as .so, and the linker selects all the other libs correctly.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cptrodolfox opened pull request #72988 → hapistrano: fix broken package → https://git.io/JeaF5
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<{^_^}> [hydra] @grahamc merged pull request #687 → Add `cancel-build` & `bump-to-front` roles → https://git.io/JeaIp
<{^_^}> [hydra] @grahamc pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeaFA
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<NfixEstrada[m]> Hello! I'm trying to build a Go derivation, but it fails with the following error: ` verifying github.com/flynn/go-shlex@v0.0.0-20150515145356-3f9db97f8568: github.com/flynn/go-shlex@v0.0.0-20150515145356-3f9db97f8568: Get https://sum.golang.org/lookup/github.com/flynn/go-shlex@v0.0.0-20150515145356-3f9db97f8568: dial tcp: lookup sum.golang.org on [::1]:53: read udp [::1]:35055->[::1]:53: read: connection refused
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<andi-> ,locate clippy
<{^_^}> Found in packages: lumina, rustup, duplicati, nextcloud, vimPlugins.neomake
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<notme> ,locate irc
<{^_^}> Found in packages: bro, msf, gajim, irssi, tcllib, factor-lang
<notme> cool
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<red[m]> ah ah! so balsoft - would it be a gross oversimplification to describe home-manager as systemPackages but for users?
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<balsoft> More like the whole `environment` attrset, but for users
<red[m]> very cool - thanks
<balsoft> Well, more like the whole nixos configuration for users :)
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<red[m]> ugh, I have a pathalogical and perfectly rational hatred of dbus
* red[m] cries
<red[m]> bbiab
<Mic92> What was the meta attribute for known security bugs again?
<balsoft> What's your reasons for this hate?
<andi-> knownVulnerabilities
<Mic92> andi-: thanks!
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<dsx> Is it me or nvidia drivers are broken in 19.09?
<red[m]> mainly that I'm not a fan of massive integration of independent systems. I personally value isolation.
<red[m]> my objection is mainly server-side
<notme> I'm using the nvidia drivers on 19.09 right now. But it's on a old 970m
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<red[m]> I still don't see the point of a lot of the more recent userspace tooling to be honest with you. I've yet to see a compelling reason to have all these additional dependancies
<red[m]> maybe if I saw some value in it I might be less crotchety about it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Taneb opened pull request #72990 → vimPlugins.vim-metamath: init at 2019-11-07 → https://git.io/Jeab8
<pie_> is there an example of writing phases for multple output derivations?
<pie_> i imagine theyre supposed to support picking individual outputs
<pie_> or..oh i guess not
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeabz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #70626 → glfw: 3.2.1 -> 3.3 → https://git.io/JeC7s
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #72947 → Boot test port fix → https://git.io/JeaV1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeabr
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<notme> red[m]: "the more recent userspace tooling" like what?
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<evanjs> So if we have a python package that explicitly includes asyncio in the requirements.txt, how do we typically get around that in a nix expression?
<deni> migrating one of my haskell projects to nix. I've used cabal2nix for all the overries I need but I'm getting an error message saying: "Package ‘HaskellNet-SSL-0.3.4.1’ in /nix/store...../....nixpkgs-19.09.... is marked as broken, refusing to evaluate"
<evanjs> Assuming I'm already limiting it to python3.4+
<deni> it's telling me to add `allowBroken = true;` to ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix and I did...but it doesn't seem to be having any effect
<exarkun> evanjs: What do you mean "get around that"?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #72942 → vimPlugins: update → https://git.io/JeaVU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @lovesegfault to master « vimPlugins: update »: https://git.io/JeabM
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<evanjs> exarkun: like how do I get around this? `Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement asyncio (from sclack==1.0) (from versions: none)`
<exarkun> evanjs: Add asyncio as a buildInput?
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<exarkun> evanjs: Did you read the section of the manual about packaging Python software?
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<red[m]> notme: just the pleathora of processes that now run in userspace and seem very opaque to me. things like hostnamed spring to mind
<evanjs> exarkun: yes, though asyncio is a weird case
<evanjs> it's not actually a package for 3.4+, it's in the standard library
<red[m]> also - I still don't get the point of user-specific systemd spawns, polkit et al
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<red[m]> the list of dependancies just makes me very nervous. I like my UNIXes much more cut down I guess
<exarkun> evanjs: Patch it out of requirements.txt? requirements.txt doesn't really matter though, it's just a convention.
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<notme> red[m]: I see, I guess nix is one step in the right direction since every dependencies are explicit?
<evanjs> Yeah that's what I was trying, though I wonder if setup.py is where it really needs to be removed from. I'll try that one,too
<red[m]> I miss being able to recognize and identify all the processes running on my machine. It makes me nervous
<evanjs> (it's in install_requires)
<exarkun> evanjs: It should probably be a conditional dependency there, file a bug w/ upstream
<red[m]> notme: pretty much - even thought NixOS has embraced it to a certain extent, at least in theory it's supposedly controllable
<notme> babysteps
<red[m]> but dbus as an attack surface is nerve-racking
<red[m]> I will confess, I saw the call for people to move NixOS to networkd and it does scare me
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<red[m]> Why do I need a running daemon for that when my server just has to set it once and forget about it?
<red[m]> (A very different model to a desktop / laptop I fully conceed)
<red[m]> just seems like adding a lot of unneeded complexity for the server use-case.
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<red[m]> but like I said - I don't know that much about that subject in particular - so I may be missing something
<red[m]> (which is why I've been looking for the lightning talk on it on the nixcon channel... but I keep getting distracted by other quality talks) :-P
<evanjs> exarkun: yeah good point. Especially since the project is 3.4+ only... wait then why... yeah definitely needs a bug haha
<notme> oh, is the nixcon right now?
<red[m]> last week I think (or the week before)
<red[m]> recent tho
<globin> weekend before last
<red[m]> There may be an rfc for it though maybe?
<notme> october 25-27
<{^_^}> [hydra] @edolstra pushed 10 commits to flake: https://git.io/JeaNk
<red[m]> (oh, and I won't lie - I hate journald with the firery passions of hell and at some point I'm going to find a way to turn the whole thing off and revert back to syslog)
<notme> I agree on that one... logs should be as simple as possible
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<notme> for the rest of systemd and family, I don't have much opinion
<cwiggs> anyone know how I can get a nix-shell of bash_5?
<__red__> I wonder if we could get buy-in for an s/journald/syslog/ option in NixOS?
<cwiggs> `nix-shell -p bash_5` seems to use just the `bash` pkg which is bash v4
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<__red__> notme: I just want my textfiles back.
<deni> nevermind figured it out...I just skipped the check step for now to get it moving. If it's actually broken I'll override the package locally by fetching whatever version from hackage with cabal2nix
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<red[m]> "That being said, jouirnald is a non-optional part of systemd, there is no stable API defined between journald and the rest of systemd, they claim that they need to do this so that they can change it at will."
<red[m]> This is the kind of thing that infuriates me
<red[m]> but I realize that I'm on a lonely island in that PoV
<adisbladis> n/bu84
<ashkitten> red[m]: that's a topic for #nixos-chat, but i'm sure you'll find people who agree
<red[m]> I did not know there was a #nixos-chat - is that for just general conversations as opposed to support stuff?
<ashkitten> correct
<red[m]> I should join - thankee
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<notme> __red__: "no stable api"..... No my favorite words for something that's in production :P
<notme> Oh, I didn't know either. I was just trying out IRC in general, lol
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<red[m]> coolio - right now I'm trying to connect to it via matrix but it looks like the channel isn't available that way... hmm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #72870 → Add RNNoise, use it in Mumble → https://git.io/Jeaqb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeaNi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nixos-channel-bot pushed commit from @lattfein to nixpkgs-19.09-darwin « appimageTools: add at-spi2-core to multiPkgs »: https://git.io/Jeadw
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<notme> I can't join #nixos-chat either, it "redirects" to #nixos-unregistered
<__red__> notme: you have to register your nick with nickserv
<__red__> do a /msg nickserv help
<notme> ah ok
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<notme> yeah, I'm using an unregistered nick
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<notme> darn it, I _just_ updated :P
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<kuznero> Hi All!
<notme> hello
<kuznero> How do I check why certain package is being installed on my NixOS?
<kuznero> QScintilla is currently broken, and I don't install it explicitly
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<notme> kuznero: maybe look at https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Cheatsheet
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<notme> kuznero: You can also use shell script to find the location of the executable in the store: readlink -f $(which QScintilla)
<notme> from there I guess you can use nix-store to find where it came from
<notme> look at nix-store's manual
<kuznero> ‘qscintilla-qt4-2.11.2’ is not a binary, so, `which` will not be able to locate it. As I understand (not sure though) it is a python library
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<notme> ok, I see
<notme> kuznero: maybe try ls ~/.nix-profile/lib | grep qsci
<notme> if it's there, you can use follow the symlink (readlink -f)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alyssais opened pull request #72991 → squashfs-tools-ng: init at 0.7 → https://git.io/JeaAc
<kuznero> it is not there, but in the /nix/store (from the older version I guess). Question here is really which other package provoke QScintilla to be installed.
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<notme> yes, for that you can use nix-store
<qyliss> Anyone used Nixpkgs to build a kernel with MODULES disabled?
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<kuznero> more general question then - how to see the tree of dependencies for a specific package (upstream and downstream dependencies)?
<notme> nix-store --query --referrers /nix/store/...
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<kuznero> notme, SUPER! Thanks!!!
<kuznero> sqliteman that is for me
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<samueldr> qyliss: kind of, but not really... the kernel builder from mobile-nixos builds with kernel disabled, it uses the manual builder from nixpkgs under the hood
<samueldr> but might be too much customized for being of use to you?
<qyliss> That sounds like it might be what I want.
<notme> kuznero: there's also nix-store --query --tree /nix/store/...
<notme> which prints an ascii tree
<NoctisLabs> I'm updating and it seems unsually large, running low on disk space so I canceled it and ran a garbage collection.
<samueldr> qyliss: might not be 100% the best example, but hopefully it helps
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #72428 → flexibee: 2019.3.0.3 -> 2019.3.0.7 and adding the server binary → https://git.io/JegLV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeaAR
<kuznero> notme, tree shows downstream deps, but also very useful! great stuff!
<qyliss> Trying to do stripped-down guest kernels
<qyliss> I'll have a look. Thanks very much.
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<samueldr> you're welcome :)
<notme> ok, I wasn't sure, I just skimmed the manual
<notme> there's --graph too
<samueldr> qyliss: oh, re-reading, I am not using the nixpkgs stuff anymore, but rather a copy of it
<NoctisLabs> Is there a gnome disks package? I can't find it.
<samueldr> gnome3.gnome-disk-utility NoctisLabs
<NoctisLabs> Cheers
<qyliss> samueldr: ah, okay
<qyliss> perhaps some work needed in nixpkgs then
<samueldr> perhaps, though not sure what differences there are with the nixpkgs one
<otwieracz> Hey, do you have any ideas? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/72992
<{^_^}> #72992 (by otwieracz, 25 seconds ago, open): Problem when rebuilding sqlite from `release-19.09`
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<lordcirth_> otwieracz, subbed, might look at it when I get home
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #72887 → Port tests to Python → https://git.io/JeaC4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 16 commits to master: https://git.io/JeaAP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jeaxv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl closed pull request #70737 → [19.03] breeze-plymouth: allow custom logo (backport) → https://git.io/JeWOR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @evanjs opened pull request #72994 → sclack: init at unstable-2019-07-15 → https://git.io/Jeaxk
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<otwieracz> Huh, what's going on.
<otwieracz> I am able to build sqlite manually (nix-env -i sqlite) but not as a part of system..
<otwieracz> OK, but `dqlite` is actually failing
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @elohmeier opened pull request #72996 → nixos/containers: fix handling of cfg.additionalCapabilities → https://git.io/JeaxW
<red[m]> Quick Question. The last attempted build I see for staging on hydra.nixos.org was 2019-10-23.
<red[m]> so - I guess my question is, did it move anywhere? Where is it being tested now?
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<srhb> red[m]: I don't think it's on a schedule currently, so presumably no one activated it :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @otwieracz opened pull request #72997 → Remove sqlite patch from sqlite-replication as it's incompatible → https://git.io/Jeax2
<red[m]> srhb: Then I guess my next question is - if it's not being used, where is staging being tested before packages get moved to master?
<otwieracz> lordcirth_: I've created pull request addressing that issue
<srhb> red[m]: staging is usually about rather big changes, it's not continuous. It's likely to get run before a merge to master. But I think staging-small is still running :)
<lordcirth_> otwieracz, great
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<red[m]> srhb: I guess - I just don't even see a manual kickoff either
<red[m]> I have a PR in that branch so I'm curious as to how it propagates
<red[m]> (and my new package I need in my production environment is dependent on that bugfix first)
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<pie_> man how many gigs of space does virtualbox need to build, ugh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #72999 → mesa: 19.2.1 -> 19.2.3 (and associated fixes) → https://git.io/JeapY
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<run500> im trying to set up hydra on a non-local postgres server. where do i put the postgres password? i get an error from hydra-init saying that no password is supplied
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<run500> i have set the services.hydra.dbi option with db,host,user. should the password go in there?
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<evax> worldofpeace: thanks again for the nm pppd fix, all confirmed working in the latest 19.09, I closed the ticket
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<inkbottle> "nix run" does not provide g++ in the environment?
<adisbladis> `nix run` is not for creating build environments.
<adisbladis> That's what nix-shell is for
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<inkbottle> OK, thanks
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<inkbottle> Is it preferable to use gcc-wrapper or gcc (unwrapped)
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<infinisil> gcc should be in the shell by default, no need to specify it
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<inkbottle> infinisil: you mean with nix-shell?
<infinisil> Yea
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<inkbottle> I'm trying every possible "things" and variations on the net to install bs-platform (reason to js compiler); because so far none of them did succeed...
<inkbottle> Actually there is only one tuto
<inkbottle> but doesn't seems to work
<inkbottle> the question has been asked twice in 2018 here
<inkbottle> but w/o solution so far
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<inkbottle> https://ylixir.io/2019/02/08/reasonml-and-nix/ claims that it is no sweat, but I definitely haven't been able to reproduce it
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<worldofpeace> evax: you're welcome, thanks for reporting it so it could be fixed upstream ✨
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<red[m]> Good Morning worldofpeace - are there office hours tomorrow or am I a week out of sync?
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<gchristensen> week out :)
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<worldofpeace> red: It's next week friday (nudges gchristensen, I have a fire extinguisher if the meetings strike again :P).
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<red[m]> awwe, shucks
<red[m]> :-(
<red[m]> I had questions
<worldofpeace> Also good morning red. Though for me it's 10:52 PM in barcelona :D
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<red[m]> It's evening for me here in meatspace too, but I use IRC Timezones when on irc.
<red[m]> Good Morning when you join, Good Night when you leave
<red[m]> (even if they're only a few seconds apart)
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<gchristensen> ah yes, UGT
<worldofpeace> lol, I wasn't aware there was an irc TZ. I'll keep this in mind now.
<worldofpeace> :)
<red[m]> Not heard it termed UGT before - what's UGT?\
<gchristensen> Universal Greeting Time
<Dandellion[m]> Universal Greeting Time
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<red[m]> also gchristensen - I enjoyed watching your nixcon talk
<red[m]> it was exactly what I was looking for - just wish it was longer
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<gchristensen> Dandellion[m]: :o
<jgt> oh yeah thanks gchristensen for your talks up in the sky room; they were really clear
<red[m]> I'm currently watching zimbatm 's talk right now
<gchristensen> jtojnar: =)
<red[m]> talks covering the basics considered good :D
<gchristensen> oops, jgt
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<Dandellion[m]> <gchristensen "Dandellion: :o"> :p
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<red[m]> why do I get the impression I'm missing an inside joke here :-P
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<red[m]> oh - that's cool too
<gchristensen> red[m]: it is an "inside joke" to IRC users, and Dandellion[m] and I are both apparently well clued in
<red[m]> thanks!
<red[m]> I did not know there was such a thing as nix friday
<red[m]> I wonder if I'm that detatched or I just walk around and get lucky
<worldofpeace> gchristensen: though now red has me wondering what should happen in office-hours next week...
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<worldofpeace> (anyone can suggest here if they like btw)
<Dandellion[m]> should add a command to {^_^} for UGT :p
<gchristensen> ,UGT = Good morning!
<{^_^}> ugt defined
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<red[m]> worldofpeace: I think you should do "teach a noob"... Just need to find a noob who'd be willing to volunteer... hmmmm
<red[m]> ;-)
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<gchristensen> that is what zimbatm is looking for, maybe he could still help you tomorrow
<gchristensen> you should reach out
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<worldofpeace> right, tbh office-hours is just like whatever we believe it is on that day.
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<philipp[m]> Jan Tojnar: Probably not, since there are no #!/bin/bash -> #!/usr/bin/env bash PRs open :-D
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<Bryophyllum> Hello! I have a question: I'm on the default 19.08 stable, and having a large chunk of all my "packages" re-downloaded and even built at the switch upgrade; is there a reason for which everything received an update? I'm sorry if it's not a right place to ask this question.
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<waleee-cl> Bryophyllum: do you have overrides or use overlays in your configuration.nix ?
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<waleee-cl> if so, you can get some more than expected rebuilds sometimes
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<Bryophyllum> walee-cl, I don't think so. Unless this workaround: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/67704#issuecomment-528155928 counts as either an override or overlay. I'm new to Nix, and I've pretty much stuck to basic syntax in my configuration.nix
<Bryophyllum> Are altered default options, set to a value other the the default one (like disabling polkit, which is enabled by default) considered overrides?
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<clever> Bryophyllum: what does `nix-channel --list` report as root?
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<clever> Bryophyllum: nix eval nixpkgs.lib.version ?
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<Bryophyllum> 19.09.1098.821c7ed030b
<clever> Bryophyllum: and what is the path to something it started building?
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<Bryophyllum> It's on a VM, the upgrade was performed on a TTY. I'm gonna delete the newly generated generation, if I can, delete bits of my configuration.nix, and perform it again to see if that's it.
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<Bryophyllum> I mean, I can't see what was the path to a package it was building
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ptival opened pull request #73006 → coqPackages.paco: 1.2.8 -> 4.0.0 → https://git.io/JeVvt
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<inkbottle> The following bash script has succeeded to install bs-platform with me; I'd like to know if its plain luck before trying to turn it into a derivation. Can you please try it. https://paste.debian.net/1115157/
<inkbottle> It's supposedly harmless
<Bryophyllum> clever: I booted into a new generation, the `nix eval nixpkgs.lib.version` has remained the same. I'll look into my .nix files, and figure out what's wrong.
<inkbottle> And there is an example at the end
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<inkbottle> git clone https://github.com/BuckleScript/bucklescript; cd bucklescript; nix-shell -p nodejs python; npm install; ./lib/bsc -i -e 'let id = x => x'
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<clever> Bryophyllum: if you want the version for the currently running nixos, you want nixos-version instead
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c0bw3b opened pull request #73007 → rng-tools: 6.7 -> 6.8 → https://git.io/JeVvn
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<leo___> Hey, I'm getting infinite recursion when setting nixpkgs.overlays
<leo___> Can someone help?
<clever> leo___: can you pastebin the config?
<leo___> yeah.
<leo___> In a sec
<leo___> `overlays` is giving me it.
<Bryophyllum> I see. How can I rollback to permanently rollback to older system generation, and delete newer ones?
<leo___> I think it's my first infinite recursion. .-.
<clever> leo___: does it still fail with a single overlay in the directory, that only contains `_: _: {}` ?
<leo___> clever: Just found out what it is.
<leo___> If instead of "/${name}/overlays" I use a literal then no infinite recursion anymore
<clever> Bryophyllum: nixos-rebuild rollback, will undo nixos-rebuild's, nix-channel --rollback will undo nix-channel --update
<leo___> So it's "${name}" that's giving me it.
<leo___> But what do I do then?
<clever> leo___: the problem is config = mkIf
<leo___> If I take it I still get the recursion, clever.
<clever> leo___: you want to do nixpkgs.overlays = mkIf ...; nix.nixPath = mkIf ...; system.extraBuildCmds = mkIf ... ;
<leo___> Even with empty nixpkgs.overlays
<clever> leo___: where is that name argument coming from?
<leo___> Supposedly from nixops
<leo___> Is not it? :s
<clever> leo___: it is
<clever> leo___: i would just not use the name in the overlays, give every machine the same overlays
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<leo___> is it not*
<leo___> The idea of this script is exactly to give each machine it's own overlays
<leo___> xd
<leo___> Is that bad?
<clever> leo___: why does each machine need different overlays?
<clever> this is where nixops adds extra arguments to all modules
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<leo___> I don't know, why load all overlays for each machine?
<leo___> If it's an embedded device, for instance
<leo___> Maybe it's not "interested" in a firefox overlay
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<clever> if you dont reference the given package, then the overlay will have zero impact on it
<leo___> Ah, yeah.
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<leo___> Just negligible performance impact, right?
<clever> only at eval time for nixops
<clever> should have zero impact on the deployed machines
<leo___> clever
<leo___> But supposed machine A wants firefox with overlay and machine B doesn't
<leo___> Or wants a different overlay
<leo___> Then how would I proceed?
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<clever> i would just define that in the deployment files
<clever> { machine1 = { ... }: { nixpkgs.overlays = [ (import ./foo.nix) ]; }; }
<LnL> extend pkgs with a ccustom firefox instead overriding the default name so you can reference both
<leo___> Got it.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @d-goldin opened pull request #73008 → sqlite: fixing cve patch name → https://git.io/JeVv8
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<leo___> And do you know how the infinite recursion came to be?
<clever> not sure
<leo___> :s
<clever> would need to see the --show-trace
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<leo___> clever++
<{^_^}> clever's karma got increased to 235
<leo___> LnL++
<{^_^}> LnL's karma got increased to 13
<leo___> Thanks!
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<karetsu> so I think I'm still having some accountsservice issues - I cannot unlock any of the admin panels with a wheel user in gnome-control-center with the following output: https://gist.github.com/karetsu/e4acb4e7e159943303f47dea6f5c9a75 what have I done wrong now :'(
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<leo___> clever: If you have interest I can post the trace. heh
<leo___> I'm investigating it myself, but no brainz.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @risicle opened pull request #73009 → [r19.03] qemu: add patches for CVE-2019-13164 & CVE-2019-14378 → https://git.io/JeVv7