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<METROIDHunter>
hi, just installed NixOS on an old laptop. How do I edit my fstab? Nano says "file is unwritable" even though I used sudo to edit. Do I need to reconfigure with my .nix file?
<Yaniel>
yes
<Yaniel>
and then run nixos-rebuild switch
<Yaniel>
or nixos-rebuild boot, if you don't need the changes to apply immediately
<METROIDHunter>
ok thanks. how exactly do I do that? the problem is my fstab is trying to mount my swap partition, but the UUID changed. not sure what options configure my fstab
<evanjs>
Okay, more sane question i think: Is mkForce + (default + my new stuff) the best way to extend options that don't have e.g. extra* options? e.g. phpEnv here https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Phpfpm
<evanjs>
Wait... can I even get default values for e.g. <name> options?
<evanjs>
e.g. services.phpfpm.pools.<name>.phpEnv -> services.phpfpm.pools.nextcloud.phpEnv
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<evanjs>
Bah. It looks like it adds systemPackages to its PATH, so I suppose I'll just add the requirements to my system for now ...
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<evanjs>
Yup. That works fine.
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<drakonis>
lassulus: could you take a look at gzdoom's audio? it seems to be really broken and i'm not certain why
<drakonis>
it doesn't load the soundfonts
<drakonis>
and it appears that the fluid soundfonts link is dead
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<NoctisLa1>
I just setup managed chromium with programs.chromium module, seems cool but I was wondering if there's a way to manage Firefox in the same way?
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<jgt>
:set status on
<jgt>
oops! sorry!
<jgt>
how do I make nginx work locally in a nix-shell? I can of course load it with nix-shell -p nginx, but if I try to run it, I get a couple of permission denied errors because it wants to write a log file (and something else) to a location in the nix store
<jgt>
looks like I can run it with sudo, but isn't that a bad idea?
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<juhe>
Hi is there a way to find out if nix-shell executes derivation with given name already (other than having some private lock files)? I'd like to handle global state differently if there's already one instance running.
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<betawaffle>
what is responsible for doing all the side-effects of nixos? like the part that manages everything outside the nix store?
<betawaffle>
is that what activation scripts are?
<MichaelRaskin>
That, and some of the services
<betawaffle>
and that's all part of nixos, not nixpkgs or nix, right?
<qyliss>
yes
<srhb>
And, to my regret, systemd itself (especially through systemd-tmpfiles these days)
<MichaelRaskin>
Nix+Nixpkgs is pretty fine just running on top of a random distro
<betawaffle>
do you ever try to manage anything besides packages in that case MichaelRaskin?
<betawaffle>
like configuration files?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, a lot of configuration files should just live in VCS, but you can also nix-build them
<betawaffle>
right, but how do you get them from vcs into the right places?
<betawaffle>
it seems like everyone does it slightly differently
<MichaelRaskin>
Be it VCS or nix-build, some symlinks are probably necessary. I guess home-manager can put them
<betawaffle>
which probably ends up being something like diy activation scripts, right?
<MichaelRaskin>
Yes, Nix itself doesn't come with too much of a policy bundled, you do have choice
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<MichaelRaskin>
You can outsource the doing to home-manager, I guess
<MichaelRaskin>
Some people just nix-build the entire $HOME and make symlinks to writeable parts, I guess
<qyliss>
I do basically that
<srhb>
That's, like, level 11 Nix usage, I think.
<srhb>
:)
<MichaelRaskin>
I do that for /etc/ but not for $HOME
<MichaelRaskin>
I like my DVCS (which is not Git)
<srhb>
Now I want a level chart...
<srhb>
I don't know what the cap is, but max level should be when: "/var is no longer writable"
<MichaelRaskin>
Nope, you mis the point
<MichaelRaskin>
I mean, where does your PostgreSQL data lives at that level?
<qyliss>
contents of /var are pretty static
<betawaffle>
and gchristensen, you use zfs snapshots and wipe out your whole system on boot?
<srhb>
MichaelRaskin: I was kidding. :-)
<qyliss>
chmod -w /var wouldn't be a huge deal
<srhb>
After all, the point of all our immutability, in the end, is usually to make managing state tractable, not impossible...
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<gchristensen>
betawaffle: I do
<gchristensen>
well "whole system" is a stretch
<gchristensen>
I wipe out / on boot, which leaves /boot, /nix, and /home untouched
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<betawaffle>
and what service is responsible for putting all the symlinks and such back? or is that all part of the snapshot of /?
<gchristensen>
I have recently wondered what would happen if my / fs was a FUSE FS which didn't have read-after-write, where every directory was always empty and if you created a file it would only actually exist as a file handle and when it closed it was gone
<gchristensen>
the the init script passed to the kernel runs activation scripts, which creates all the symlinks
<MichaelRaskin>
gchristensen: why not just forbid non-symlinks?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, you need to get immutable /etc first, true
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<MichaelRaskin>
(which is doable, I checked)
<DigitalKiwi>
who even needs a file system anyway
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<Panormus>
Ei
<srhb>
Skip fuse and just reimplement open() to lazily realise files.
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<MichaelRaskin>
Hmm.
<MichaelRaskin>
I wonder if there are mount options like umask 0 that would make non-symlinks unusable
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[nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus merged pull request #73905 → fix shell in ammonite package #68151 → https://git.io/Jeiv3
<xidica>
Can I get the acpi_call module that tlp recommends just by adding "acpi_call" to boot.kernelModules or do I need to get one of these packages like linuxPackages.acpi_call ?
<xidica>
Does anyone have experience with a decent suspend setup for a Thinkpad (in this case a T460S)? systemctl suspend seems to work just fine, and I have the default services.logind.lidSwitch behavior (to suspend), but when I try to suspend by closing the lid I hard freeze, when I do it with systemctl it seems just fine
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<rand01011>
Hello, I hope everyone is doing well.
<rand01011>
I'm facing an issue after a successful install of Nix where running this command `nix-shell -p nix-info --run "nix-info -m"` is throwing this error: `could not set permissions on '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user' to 755: Operation not permitted`
<rand01011>
The folder already has correct permissions: `drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Dec 1 17:16 per-user` so I'm not sure what the issue is
<kraem>
first off: i don't fully understand systemd. if i define a systemd.user.services.<name> service, would that be started for every user that logs in?
<fuzen>
Hi, I'm trying to create a custom vim environment, but I can't find the documentation for using vim-plug as the package manager. The example on the wiki only includes defining plugin but not load conditions. Where can I find the documentation for this?
<kraem>
i'm wondering because i wrote this service https://bpaste.net/show/JUSLC and it's not started automatically when i log in to a X session - would it be better to place it under systemd.user.services.desktop-libinput-gestures?
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<betawaffle>
for the builtin `derivation` function (not the `mkDerivation` function), are there any attributes that are not mentioned in the nix manual?
<eon`_>
hi, just installed nixos on some laptop, the problem is that I don't get any tty :/ I can see that the multi-user target is reached, but the logind service is not started. If anybody has some idea...
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<dmj`>
using both patches and patchPhase is cool right?
<clever>
dmj`: if you set patchPhase, then it will stop obeying patches, you probably want to use postPatch
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<dmj`>
Ah cool
<dmj`>
Thanks @clever
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<xidica>
still wondering if anyone has an idea why systemctl suspend seems to work fine, but suspend triggered via services.logind.lidSwitch = "suspend" hard freezes the machine
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<rycee>
Anybody know about this error: "error: attribute 'override' missing, at /nix/store/vywpald3vs5lgrcrlzbfb6cz7hskj4ii-nixpkgs-20.03pre203598.f97746ba272/nixpkgs/pkgs/os-specific/linux/systemd/default.nix:18:21"
<Thra11>
I have set QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=kde, which makes Qt applications use the KDE style, even though I'm running sway, not plasma. I have systemsettings5 (and other plasma packages) in my environment.systemPackages, so I can run the settings application, but it can't load any of it's modules (kcm_*). What weird voodoo do I need to do to make this work outside the plasma desktop?
<evanjs>
Anybody have experience getting ocDownloader to work with NextCloud? Says it needs aria2c running as a daemon. I enabled the aria service and rebuilt but no worky. Systemctl and stuff looks normal, though
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<clever>
jco: you must `nix-env -e emacs` (as root) to remove that
<jco>
oh indeed, now it is using emacs from /run/current-system/sw/bin/emacs
<jco>
thanks again !
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<kraem>
xidica: don't know if you're interested but i don't use logind.lidSwitch but this instead: https://bpaste.net/show/MNBV6 - guess you could invoke systemctl suspend where i invoke my xautolock script
<kraem>
xidica: oh nvm. think i misread you're problem
<kraem>
s/you're/your
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<sondr3>
is infinisil around? Trying out hie-bios and now it seems I'm compiling everything myself instead of using the cache, worked fine previously when I used the regular HIE
<infinisil>
The hie-bios doesn't have cachix caches indeed
<sondr3>
my laptop is not going to enjoy that, haha, compiled quickly enough on my desktop
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<infinisil>
sondr3: You could copy it from the desktop to the laptop
<sondr3>
infinisil: oh really? That'd be awesome, how would you do that?
<infinisil>
sondr3: E.g. `nix copy --from ssh://foo /nix/store/...`
<infinisil>
Or it's possible to use the other machine as a substituter too
<infinisil>
the only way I got ssh substituters to work though is with `sudo nix-build ... --option substituters ssh://foo --option require-sigs false`
<xidica>
kraem: hey thanks for that, yeah, for whatever reason systemctl suspend works like a champ, but trying to rely on the logind.suspend behavior on lidSwitch hard freezes my X windows session and indeed the whole system but the screen is staying on, only hard power solves it
<rycee>
"error: attribute 'override' missing, at /nix/store/vywpald3vs5lgrcrlzbfb6cz7hskj4ii-nixpkgs-20.03pre203598.f97746ba272/nixpkgs/pkgs/os-specific/linux/systemd/default.nix:18:21"
<xidica>
as a workaround for now i've just set the lidSwitch stuff to "ignore" and will suspend manually like a "real man" but still, i was hoping to get this thing riced up with all the nice behaviors
<sondr3>
infinisil: thanks, could I also use `nixos-rebuild --build-host ssh://foo`?
<infinisil>
sondr3: Yeah that probably works too
<infinisil>
The --option ones can also be passed to nixos-rebuild fyi
<sondr3>
infinisil: sweet, thanks a bunch! I'll give it a go next time I'm building my laptop
<sondr3>
I thought so too but I couldn't see it on the manpage, but yeah, thanks
<sondr3>
infinisil++
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infinisil's karma got increased to 163
<infinisil>
:)
<infinisil>
Yeah it's hidden in the man page, just mentioning "In addition, nixos-rebuild accepts various Nix-related flags"
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<kraem>
xidica: it's not suspending without specifying the logind line in your configuration?
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[nixpkgs] @jlesquembre opened pull request #74800 → kubeprompt: init at 0.3.0 → https://git.io/JeMqt
<kraem>
xidica: oh it does even without the line but it freezes in that case as well?
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<xidica>
kraem: if I run suspend via systemctl, it works perfectly, the system is suspended and resumes as expected when hitting power. If I let it suspend by doing the logind.lidSwitch it hard hangs
<xidica>
which is confusing as hell to me, seeing as it should be calling the same "suspend"
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[nixpkgs] @teto opened pull request #74801 → libtermkey: compile with unibilium → https://git.io/JeMq8
<clever>
xidica: ive also got suspend problems, the laptop just wakes up 90% of the time i `systemctl suspend`
<clever>
it will take a 3 second nap, then wake up on its own
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<kraem>
xidica: long shot but have you tried specifying it with a line in logind.extraConfig? don't know why that would make a difference though
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<xidica>
kraem: no, but I'll try a few other things and that as well. It seems to work perfect via systemctl so surely there must be a way to get this thing doing the right behavior on lidSwitch
<manveru>
clever: i had that problem with bluetooth, where when my headphones lost connection, it would try to wake up my pc...
<clever>
manveru: nothing was using the bluetooth at the time
<clever>
but blueman was running
<manveru>
i only had the problem with bose headphones, sennheiser are fine for some reason
<xidica>
i wonder if it has anything to do with it, if you run bluetoothctl and put scan on you'll see all kind of stuff flying by, maybe any activity might trigger it?
<xidica>
like a "wake-on-lan" behavior
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<manveru>
i never figured out how to disable it, just had to turn off the headphones before suspending or have to suspend twice...
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[nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @dermetfan to master « buku: fix bukuserver »: https://git.io/JeMqP
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<xidica>
hmm, actually, I think the laptop is somehow being suspended even with the logind lidswitch all set to "ignore", so it must be something else doing it. Any idea how I can find out what specifically? I'm just running xserver + lightdm + i3
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<otwieracz>
I am trying to create deriviation for Burp-UI (https://git.ziirish.me/ziirish/burp-ui). It's distributed as pip package. I've got basic build working, but I've run into some import issues, the software does not even start.
<otwieracz>
And due to lack of experience, I don't even know where to begin debugging.
<boomshroom>
Haven't logged into irc in a while and weechat seems to have lost its settings.
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<boomshroom>
I'm having some font issues with Google Chrome and its derivatives. (checked Chrome, Brave, and Vivaldi) Certain JP characters just show up as empty spaces (not even a box).
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[nixpkgs] @BananchickPasha opened pull request #74804 → NEW Athame-zsh → https://git.io/JeMOk
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<boomshroom>
Has anyone else had trouble getting cjk characters to render in Google Chrome?
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<xidica>
if i just want simple local mail for users (mail someuser), not relaying outbound or accepting, which nixpkgs should I be looking at? I mean, postfix can do it I have no doubt but sounds overkill.
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<boomshroom>
It isn't answering your question, xidica, but I just want to say that I have no experience using linux's built in email service. I just wanted to say this because you don't deserve to be just sitting there in absolute silence after wording a question like that.
<xidica>
thanks for the kind words, but nobody owes anyone anything, I'm happily plodding along over here will probably just get postfix working anyway. Some distros have some pretty simple meta packages for desktop only mail, not sure what it is here and can't find in the docs but no worries.
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<xidica>
boomshroom: have no experience with strange characters in chrome, but had plenty of experience with alternate charsets not working in phantomjs, requiring some strange font packages
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<boomshroom>
If you ask me, little is more infuriating than having trouble and asking into the void with no hint that anyone even heard you.
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<boomshroom>
I'll look into phantomjs. I know I've seen the issue on several websites including Discord and google itself.
<xidica>
boomshroom: just looking at my github repo for a project where I needed something to render all sorts of characters, I needed to have these font packages fonts-arphic-bkai00mp fonts-arphic-bsmi001p fonts-arphic-gbsn001p fonts-arphic-gkai00mp fonts-arphic-ukai fonts-arphic-uming
<xidica>
those are package names for debian, but you might try to do a nix-env -qaP \* and try to grep for some parts of them, I do see some arphic-uming and arphic-ukai in mine
<xidica>
phantomjs is completely unrelated from solving your problem, I just know there are some strange fonts you may need if you are having problems with characters, my problem was i had a phantomjs scraper to scrape foreign sites and with all those font packs I no longer had issues. You might consider finding the appropriate ones and putting them in the fonts.fonts section of configuration.nix
<lopsided98>
xidica: I use nullmailer
<xidica>
lopsided98: thanks, I'll check that one out
<tomberek>
what's a good example of using setupHooks for plugins?
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<tomberek>
i'm trying to package some extensions to gawk, but i don't quite understand how to use setupHooks without a wrapper ( https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/51721 )
<boomshroom>
The thing is that I'm not on foreign sites. I'm just trying to render emoticons and view sites relating to anime that include the japanese rendering of various names.
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<boomshroom>
Hence why I said _Discord!_
<xidica>
right, but that is going to be your problem, you probably don't have the right fonts installed
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<xidica>
at least, I'd be willing to bet. what's the issue in chrome, some characters juts show up as a box or some weird shit? 99% of the time that is a font not being present
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<xidica>
at least in my experience, YMMV
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<boomshroom>
Absolutely nothing most of the time. It just renders an empty space.
<boomshroom>
After installing a joke font, some characters FINALLY render, but with that aforementioned non-serious font, so it looks completely out of place.
<xidica>
which again indicates that having the correct fonts will solve the issue, the question is which ones you need.
<boomshroom>
my fonts configuration is [emojione symbola noto-fonts noto-fonts-cjk noto-fonts-emoji noto-fonts-extra font-awesome nerdfonts fira-code libertine]
<boomshroom>
This gets rendered, but with the previous non-serious font: `¯\_(ツ)_/¯`
<boomshroom>
It looks perfectly fine in my terminal.
<xidica>
Sorry babelstone-han
<boomshroom>
Please tell me I won't need to log out and log back in...
<boomshroom>
This renders the eyes and mouth, but not the parts on the side: `／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼`
<boomshroom>
Again, perfectly fine in the terminal.
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<boomshroom>
Did not appear when I went to copy it.
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<john67556>
After nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade, how do you know if a reboot is required? e.g. Debian creates /var/run/reboot-required and it gets printed in the MOTD
<magneticduck>
I believe that you never need to reboot unless you do something truly drastic like changing the kernel
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #74806 → gdb: Fix safe path for cross → https://git.io/JeMOh
<clever>
ls -l /run/{current,booted}-system/kernel
<clever>
john67556: this will let you compare the kernel versions
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<boomshroom>
`hash mismatch in fixed-output derivation '/nix/store/kq962dk63xkafkbhz0j6dzz2s771nl8i-babelstone-han-12.1.7'`!?
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<clever>
boomshroom: if you try again, does it fail with the same hashes in the error?
<john67556>
clever: thanks!
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 2 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/JeM3B
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 92 commits to staging: https://git.io/JeM30
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #74808 → WIP: gdb: Make target-independent and auto-load-safe-path with a wrapper → https://git.io/JeM3g
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<avn>
otwieracz: I feel you need add some extra_requirements to buildInputs, probably websocket related
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[nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JeM3S
<boomshroom>
Nevermind. I thought for a moment that it was trying to inflate the ttf file as an archive, rather than printing the path within the archive.
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<boomshroom>
There are 2 different paths that seemed to have been created the same contents, but have different hashes.