<ixxie>
theres a description there of the origin of the idea
<ixxie>
I was looking for an articulation of the concept
<ixxie>
I never thought about how the snowflake is made of lambdas
<ixxie>
and how the snowflake connects with the idea of purity
<ixxie>
some of the variants are interesting
<samueldr>
oh, the lambda part I got, never went farther then thinking hexagonal shape is easy to design, with good geometrics
<samueldr>
well, not "easy to design", but a natural shape
<ixxie>
true
<ixxie>
hexagons are common in design and have many advantages
<ixxie>
samueldr - what do you think of the colors of the logo?
<samueldr>
it's a hard gamble, changing colors makes it easy to be distinctive, but at the same time, makes it as if we didn't want to associate, less unity between users and the upstream project
<samueldr>
(and they're using pretty much the most neutral of colors, red can mean no, yellow is hard to design for, green though could work, purples and such too)
<ixxie>
samueldr: I don't mean about us making our color different
<ixxie>
I mean about the Nix logo colors as such
<samueldr>
oh
<samueldr>
blue is nice
<samueldr>
not too opinionated
<ixxie>
blue *is* nice, but I am not a fan of the particular blues chosen
<samueldr>
and as I said, red is hard for logos, yellow can't be shown properly, colors in-between those two too are hard
<ixxie>
Orange can work
<ixxie>
but not so much in this case
<ixxie>
I guess blue would be okay, I just lament the shades chosen
<ixxie>
they are SO 90s
<ixxie>
and blue is so overused in tech
<ixxie>
I am starting to wonder if its really wise to even have a seperate logo for the wiki
<ixxie>
especially if we will make an RFC in the future about making the wiki official again
<samueldr>
maybe not
<ixxie>
the scenario where there is a seperate logo for NixOS, Nix, NixOps, Hydra, etc - it seems too much
<ixxie>
these would all anyway have different text next to the logo
<ixxie>
so they are at least differentiated like that
<ixxie>
I guess I would be even more inclined to suggest we change the name of the wiki from NixOS Wiki to NixWiki
<ixxie>
to fit in with the naming pattern xD
<ixxie>
but it doesn't matter that much
<ixxie>
I guess I would be worried because anything I can think of to differentiate these things will end up being corny
<ixxie>
except for differentiating the Wiki, that can be done quite elegantly I think
<samueldr>
pretty much what I felt when I tried, adding to the fact that I don't have much experience actually designing
<ixxie>
but lets say, NixOps - you take the snowflake and add what? A hammer and scredriver crosses? A cogwheel?
<ixxie>
I guess its more to do with the nature of this logo
<samueldr>
yep
<ixxie>
its beauty is appropriate to Nix - the elegance is in the abstraction
<samueldr>
the theme's internals aren't well documented
<ixxie>
so this included finding a way to delete / move pages?
<samueldr>
that's the actions toolbox
<samueldr>
the theme documentation wasn't explicit, it needs a specific setting for it to work as described
<ixxie>
btw I love the dynamic ToC thingy
<ixxie>
is that part of the theme too?
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
and part of bootstrap
<ixxie>
neat
<ixxie>
I didn't know bootstrap had so many features
<ixxie>
I thought it was just a responsive design framework
<samueldr>
I have strong opinions about bootstrap
<samueldr>
and not all of them goes the same way most do
<samueldr>
the initial goal of bootstrap was to make a base theme that could be used to prototype UI stuff that did not look like crap
<samueldr>
for that, it's still a great tool
<samueldr>
it has plenty of components ready to use
<samueldr>
it's pretty much a full UI toolkit
<samueldr>
with which you can build responsive applications
<samueldr>
but as a responsive design framework, it's... bad
<samueldr>
when you don't want to use it as it is
<samueldr>
from experience, and maybe because I have enough experience with integration, it becomes a pain and you have to fight against it for *website design*
<samueldr>
and that's the important distinction
<ixxie>
yeah I see the point
<ixxie>
so its more of a template than a framework