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<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Expression Language]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=943&oldid=941&rcid=942 * Makefu * (-426) /* Syntax Highlighting/IDE Support */
<nixoswikibot> [[Editor Modes for Nix Files]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=944&oldid=817&rcid=943 * Makefu * (+112) merge "nix expression language"
<nixoswikibot> [[Vim plugins]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=945&oldid=868&rcid=944 * Makefu * (+203)
<nixoswikibot> [[Editor Modes for Nix Files]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=946&oldid=944&rcid=945 * Makefu * (+1362)
<makefu> i've cleaned up the vim syntax highlighting section after seen nix expression language with similar text but worse content
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Expression Language]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=947&oldid=943&rcid=946 * Makefu * (+3055) add language constructs
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Expression Language]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=948&oldid=947&rcid=947 * Makefu * (+335)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Expression Language]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=949&oldid=948&rcid=948 * Makefu * (+13)
<makefu> Reaktor|krebs: tell ixxie i've started the Nix Expression Language article. what do you think of the structure? problem is there is not really much to explain about the language than the notable constructs and the intro text
<Reaktor|krebs> Consider it noted.
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<Mic92> ixxie: could add a login link/login with github link to the sidebar? (This message has been postponed on 2017-10-05 12:41:00.)
<Reaktor|krebs> ixxie: i've started the Nix Expression Language article. what do you think of the structure? problem is there is not really much to explain about the language than the notable constructs and the intro text -- makefu!~makefu@v22017054592348908.powersrv.de, Fri Oct 6 09:34:38 CEST 2017
<ixxie> wow the wiki had a facelift
<ixxie> looks great!
<ixxie> responsive and everything
<ixxie> ^^
<ixxie> who do we have to thank for that?
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=950&oldid=821&rcid=949 * Ixxie * (+1)
<ixxie> makefu are you in
<ixxie> ?
<ixxie> samueldr: great job! really looks amazing!
<ixxie> I was checking if I am at the right website, thats how radical it is
<samueldr> I was thinking that it might be a good idea to have a logo specific for either the nixos-users community project or the wiki
<samueldr> right now, the way the header closely mimics the nixos official website is great, but having the same logo might be a bit much
<ixxie> you know the mediawiki logo with the square brackets?
<samueldr> as I understand it, it's still an unofficial effort
<ixxie> I thought we can do square brackets around the nixos logo
<samueldr> I know you said you did stuff with graphics and design
<samueldr> dunno if you could also be more wild with ideas, with a couple ideas
<ixxie> I can do it this weekend
<samueldr> ♥
<ixxie> a simple thing is also to simply use the same logo with a different color
<ixxie> but I should ask over at #nixos
<samueldr> I had a go at it, the fact that it's shown small makes it harder to show with great fielity
<ixxie> samueldr: we might wanna try this http://brandmark.io/logo-crunch/
<ixxie> but I will try a SVG logo first
<ixxie> where do we need to put attribution?
<ixxie> the page footer?
<samueldr> I've seen that it's already in the nixos wiki about page
<ixxie> !help
<ixxie> .help
<ixxie> Reaktor|krebs: help
<Reaktor|krebs> I'm famous
<ixxie> lol
<samueldr> famously unhelpful
<ixxie> How do I pass makefu a message?
<samueldr> that's the source, I believe
<samueldr> [03:34:42] <makefu> Reaktor|krebs: tell ixxie i've started the Nix Expression Language article. what do you think of the structure? problem is there is not really much to explain about the language than the notable constructs and the intro text
<Reaktor|krebs> I'm famous
<samueldr> guessing it's some form of <bot_name> tell <username>
<ixxie> Reaktor|krebs tell makefu: it looks good! I think we need to consider distinguishing a section about language features specific to packaging and general language features; most of what you added is packaging specific I think
<Reaktor|krebs> I'm famous
<ixxie> eeeh
<ixxie> .tell makefu: it looks good! I think we need to consider distinguishing a section about language features specific to packaging and general language features; most of what you added is packaging specific I think
<ixxie> ^tell makefu: it looks good! I think we need to consider distinguishing a section about language features specific to packaging and general language features; most of what you added is packaging specific I think
<samueldr> might not register when the user is on the channel
<samueldr> Reaktor|krebs: tell ixxie hi
<Reaktor|krebs> Consider it noted.
<samueldr> hmmm
<ixxie> hmm
<samueldr> the colon might be important
<ixxie> hey Reaktor|krebs
<Reaktor|krebs> I'm famous
<ixxie> Reaktor|krebs: tell makefu it looks good! I think we need to consider distinguishing a section about language features specific to packaging and general language features; most of what you added is packaging specific I think
<Reaktor|krebs> Consider it noted.
<ixxie> samueldr, Mic92 - what do you guys think about the color change in order to distinguish the wiki?
<ixxie> advantage is that color is far easier to spot
<ixxie> thats also the disadvantage because there is less unity
<ixxie> color would work very well on tiny format, even favicon
<samueldr> if you have ideas, even wild, with additions or modification or even a completely original logo, propose
<samueldr> I have one iteration I was satisfied with that I'll share after there are some others ready to share
<samueldr> (don't want to contaminate minds)
<ixxie> gimme a few days
<samueldr> I don't think there's any rush
<goibhniu> would the logo be used in general for any unofficial NixOS related projects?
<samueldr> that's actually something I hadn't considered before today
* goibhniu wonders if adding new colors might get messy, unless we stick to a palette
<samueldr> is there anything else nixos-users might do?
<ixxie> goibhniu: I am thinking a base color complementing the blue of nixos with two shades
<goibhniu> just a thought ... how about a hand-drawn style version of the logo?
<goibhniu> I guess there are a number of unofficial nix related utilities, maybe they could also use such a logo
<ixxie> goibhniu: so the question is - is a community logo or a wiki logo :)
<Mic92> I think we became official somehow
<ixxie> Mic92: when?
<ixxie> how?
<samueldr> it needs to be shown at 16×16 and 25 of height
<samueldr> which mostly means hand drawn looks bad
<ixxie> like the favicon yeah
<goibhniu> ah right, good point
<ixxie> besides color, the other obvious thing is to add stuff above the snowflake
<ixxie> like a little person icon or a W for wiki
<goibhniu> there was also talk, a while ago, about a family of logos ... e.g. nix vs. NixOS vs. NixOps
<goibhniu> sorry, I'm getting off topic
<samueldr> not really
<ixxie> no it isn't off toipic
<samueldr> I was surprised a bit by how all projects shared the same logo
<ixxie> I was thinking the same thing
<goibhniu> you could probably represent the relationship between these three projects in a nice way with logos
<ixxie> goibhniu: where was the talk?
<goibhniu> just in IRC, years ago
<ixxie> I was thinking if I wanna change one thing about the main logo its the font
<goibhniu> nothing came of it
<ixxie> years...hmmm
<nixoswikibot> [[FAQ]] M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=951&oldid=889&rcid=950 * Fadenb * (+5) Reword title to allow line break when viewed in slim window (mobile device)
<goibhniu> it would also be nice to have a general style guide IMO, and resources for presentations etc.
<goibhniu> for example, we're going to do up transition videos for the NixCon talks
<Mic92> ixxie: when were linked on the nixos homepage
<goibhniu> but we don't have any designers on board
<Mic92> *we
<ixxie> goibhniu: I have semiprofessional experience with graphic design
<goibhniu> is that something you'd be interested in helping out with ixxie?
<ixxie> goibhniu: yes! I will give this a shot in the weekend. I figure if I am making a new Nix Community logo might aswell try and tweak the other one/s
<samueldr> I'm professionally at the end of the graphics design pipeline, with integration, and UI/UX stuff
<ixxie> samueldr: it shows :)
<samueldr> the wiki theme, though, was a selection of an existing one, I mostly tweaked it
<samueldr> in a way, it was chosen since it's bootstrap based, just like the official website
<ixxie> yeah but choosing a theme and tweaking it still requires skills
<samueldr> Mic92: where's the wiki link on the homepage?
<goibhniu> ixxie: fantastic!
<samueldr> ah, the redirect
<samueldr> though, afaict, there's no link to that page either on the home page, the support nor community pages
<goibhniu> the wiki looks magnificent now samueldr BTW, great job!
<samueldr> (though, awesome for existing link redirects)
<Mic92> maybe I should also write a mailinglist post regarding the new design
<samueldr> hmm
<samueldr> I'll spill the beans
<samueldr> I've been working on a new homepage for the wiki
<ixxie> Mic92: OR we try and finish off all the main pages and the logo and make an official launch
<samueldr> (not ready to show)
<ixxie> samueldr: is it like a portal thingy?
<samueldr> possibly, I've been toying a bit with ideas
<ixxie> I think it would be cool to have a sort of unified official wiki launch
<Mic92> somebody can write an RFC for that
<samueldr> yeah, think of what happened as a soft launch, finding out what's broken
<ixxie> aaah
<ixxie> so THATS how you use that hting
<ixxie> thing*
<Mic92> I actually meant an RFC here: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs
<ixxie> samueldr: I will add something there about the pages
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> we might need boht
<samueldr> both*
<Mic92> for becoming official I mean
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<samueldr> ah, another issue then
<ixxie> an RFC for becoming official would be more powerful if we bring it up once we complete all our main pages etc.
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<nixoswikibot> [[Bookmarks]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=952&oldid=371&rcid=951 * Ixxie * (+8) Fixed headers to standard format.
<nixoswikibot> [[Get Involved]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=953&oldid=797&rcid=952 * Ixxie * (+53) Added the #nixos-wiki channel to chat listing.
<nixoswikibot> [[Get Involved]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=954&oldid=953&rcid=953 * Ixxie * (+27) Fixed headers to standard format.
<nixoswikibot> [[Applications]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=955&oldid=942&rcid=954 * Ixxie * (+351) Structure the article.
<nixoswikibot> [[Applications]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=956&oldid=955&rcid=955 * Ixxie * (-1)
<ixxie> okay samueldr - I added the Wiki skeleton thingy
<ixxie> samueldr: isn't the github link fixed now? https://github.com/nixos-users/wiki/issues/7
<samueldr> right now it's a hack, mostly, it's a link added to the menu, that's shown even when logged-in
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<ixxie> okay
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=957&oldid=935&rcid=956 * Ixxie * (+22) Fixed headers to standard format.
<nixoswikibot> [[Cookbook]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=958&oldid=201&rcid=957 * Ixxie * (-59) Removed redirect; this is a category and should be searchable.
<ixxie> samueldr: I'm looking at the NixOS article and wondering about the difference between the H3 and H4 headers
<ixxie> it seems a bit hard to distinguish them
<ixxie> then again, I also think H1 is way to big
<samueldr> h1 should only be in use for the article title
<ixxie> I have been editing all the articles to make H2 the primary header
<samueldr> as in, using `==` is prescribed by mediawiki
<ixxie> but the title is automatically headered
<ixxie> ah
<ixxie> yeah I noticed
<samueldr> I thought you knew and that's why you were fixing
<ixxie> well I checked wikipedia for reference once
<ixxie> anyway, checkout H3 and H4
<samueldr> from what I can tell, this looks like it comes from the nix website stylesheet
<samueldr> (I've pilfered it to make the wiki look the part)
<samueldr> one is at 140%, the other at 150%
<ixxie> can we change it?
<ixxie> say, to 120 with italics or something?
<samueldr> this makes them 21px and 19.6px (rounded to 20)
<samueldr> oh yeah, we definitely can change them
<samueldr> submit an issue, otherwise I'll forget about it
<samueldr> open an issue*
<ixxie> samueldr: how about a comment on the theming issue?
<ixxie> with a mention?
<samueldr> an issue is directly actionable, whilst the comment (on a closed issue) isn't
<samueldr> (that's my opinion)
<ixxie> okay
<makefu> ixxie: hey :) yes the examples are package-specific but that is what the language is used for anyway. it was never meant to be a general-purpose language (see intro text)
<makefu> generic examples are in the nix manual, however i found these example to be missing out what is done in nixpkgs
<nixoswikibot> [[Applications]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=959&oldid=956&rcid=958 * Ixxie * (+0)
<ixxie> makefu: fair enough, but I did somehow found some of the Nix pills helpful because they exposed the language beyond the packaging
<ixxie> makefu: one thing that definitely needs to be explained clearly is the structure of an expression xD
<makefu> the manual didn't make a good job there?
<makefu> ( real question )
<ixxie> don't know.... a little?
<ixxie> this is helpful for example
<ixxie> Ideally I think the wiki article should have ==Language Basics== with stuff like that and then ==Packaging Basics==
<ixxie> but thats just me
<ixxie> makefu
<makefu> thing is, i do not want to repilcate too much text from sources. for language basics we should simply link to the nix pills
<makefu> for the with statement i just wanted to show some examples what you will probably encounter when you write your first own derivation
<makefu> (or copy-paste it)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=960&oldid=957&rcid=959 * Ixxie * (+19) Rearranged sections.
<ixxie> makefu: how about something concise? A table of basic types (string, path, integer, etc.) and a table of compound types (attribute sets, lists, etc)
<makefu> tbh i think the basic types are not the real problem for most people, only the language quirks and specialities
<makefu> a concise reference should be part of the manual
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=961&oldid=960&rcid=960 * Ixxie * (-1753) Moved nix-user-chroot and PRoot install methods to the Nix Cookbook article; too esoteric for the main article.
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Cookbook]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=962&rcid=961 * Ixxie * (+1789) Seeded Nix Cookbook page with material imported for the Nix Package Manager article.
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=963&oldid=961&rcid=962 * Ixxie * (+79)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=964&oldid=963&rcid=963 * Ixxie * (+2)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=965&oldid=964&rcid=964 * Ixxie * (+24)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=966&oldid=965&rcid=965 * Ixxie * (+25)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=967&oldid=966&rcid=966 * Ixxie * (-1) /* Install Nix without root permissions */
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=968&oldid=967&rcid=967 * Ixxie * (+51)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=969&oldid=968&rcid=968 * Ixxie * (-208) Simplified sandboxing section.
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=970&oldid=969&rcid=969 * Ixxie * (+24)
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=971&oldid=970&rcid=970 * Ixxie * (+1)
<ixxie> makefu: I know this is weird, but the languages I learned so far in the order I learned them are R, bash, Nix and now Python
<ixxie> what many people forget is that some people come to Nix without basic programming knowledge or packaging knowledge
<ixxie> makefu: I also really believe that these pages should be mini-manuals, and ideally one should be able to get to basic usage just by reading them
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Cookbook]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=972&oldid=962&rcid=971 * Ixxie * (+1016)
<makefu> mhhh, you really think people dive into nixOS without ever touching another distro and at least some basic bash knowledge? i, for one, would never recommend nixOS to newbies
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<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=974&oldid=973&rcid=973 * Ixxie * (+0)
<ixxie> makefu: maybe not NixOS, but possible Nix; scenario: an researcher wants those shiney reproducible papers and sets up Nix on the lab's linux box; they know some python for analytics but thats about it.
<ixxie> rare but happens
<ixxie> I went from ubuntu and debian to NixOS
<ixxie> it was quite a shock
<ixxie> xD
<makefu> my way was through arch
<ixxie> I was about to switch to arch and then I happened upon NixOS while researching it
<makefu> good choice
<samueldr> I have colleagues that do not know much into building distros and bash
<ixxie> I saw declarative configurations and was like: THAT! I want THAT!
<samueldr> but knows enough of linux servers management to be dangerous
<samueldr> THEY should use nixos instead of a hapazardly undocumented configured ubuntu server
<makefu> i was always looking for server configuration which unifies all the configs. i went through puppet, self-scripted stuff with augeas and ansible
<makefu> everything sucked in its own way
<makefu> nixos does what i always searched for
<samueldr> pretty much my story there
<samueldr> I was tired of having a shiny but brittle jewel
<samueldr> either as a server or as a workstation
<ixxie> I always love communities that feel churchy
<ixxie> NixOS is like that
<ixxie> praise Nix I say!
<ixxie> Halleluia!
<makefu> all hail the nix
<ixxie> all hail Discordia!
<ixxie> wait uh, wrong church
<makefu> fine, too
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Cookbook]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=975&oldid=972&rcid=974 * Ixxie * (-2805) removed alternative install methods; moved back to main article.
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=976&oldid=974&rcid=975 * Ixxie * (+2768) Moved non-root install back.
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=977&oldid=976&rcid=976 * Ixxie * (-1)
<ixxie> makefu: I am struggling with the Nix article
<ixxie> there are several install instructions there for non-standard approaches
<ixxie> like installing with nonroot users
<ixxie> the wiki is great for this kind of non-standard installs but I am not sure that article is the right place for it
<ixxie> maybe its better in the cookbook?
<makefu> maybe just creating a new article
<makefu> about "installing nix"
<makefu> would probably be the best. then link this article in the nix main
<Mic92> I also have some follow ups, like how to build a debian deb for nix
<Mic92> And nix-daemon
<Mic92> on non-nixos systems
<makefu> building a debian deb would fit into "packaging software" or similar
<samueldr> would it?
<Mic92> no I mean packaging the nix package manager
<makefu> ahhh
<makefu> okay, sorry misunderstood
<ixxie> why isn't Nix just packaged for Nix already?
<Mic92> ixxie: it is
<Mic92> nix-shell -p nix
<makefu> how about "bootstrapping nix"
<makefu> an article with all the ways to install
<samueldr> I'm installing a nix deb package on my servers, then the next step is to install nix using nix
<samueldr> (this made my colleagues laugh)
<ixxie> makefu: installing nix seemed better as a title
<makefu> okay sure
<makefu> this is also what i would probably search for
<Mic92> I actually had to this today to get a .nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix-daemon.sh on ubuntu
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=978&oldid=977&rcid=977 * Ixxie * (-3276) Moved installation instructions to Nix Installation.
<nixoswikibot> [[Installing Nix]] !N https://nixos.wiki/index.php?oldid=979&rcid=978 * Ixxie * (+3324) Moved install instructions from the Nix article.
<nixoswikibot> [[Installing Nix]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=980&oldid=979&rcid=979 * Ixxie * (-6)
<nixoswikibot> [[Installing Nix]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=981&oldid=980&rcid=980 * Ixxie * (+0) /* PRoot */
<nixoswikibot> [[Installing Nix]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=982&oldid=981&rcid=981 * Ixxie * (-1)
<ixxie> It would be cool to port it
<ixxie> hmm
<ixxie> maybe Nix Installation Guide is a better name
<ixxie> I still like the idea of naming guides, cookbooks and tutorials with those words explicitly mentioned
<ixxie> uurgh but we had that discussion
<ixxie> :P
<ixxie> I think in the end we said no to that idea
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=983&oldid=978&rcid=982 * Ixxie * (-2)
<ixxie> samueldr: how do I move or rename pages in the new interface?
<ixxie> I can't find the buttons for that
<samueldr> could you before?
<samueldr> (not sure if it needs privileges)
<samueldr> (looking at my local setup to compare
<ixxie> samueldr: yes I could, and all users can I think
<ixxie> see permissions here for example https://nixos.wiki/index.php?title=Installing_Nix&action=info
<samueldr> wasn't sure
<samueldr> this'll need an issue I believe
<samueldr> it'll be fixed
<nixoswikibot> [[Nix Package Manager]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=984&oldid=983&rcid=983 * Ixxie * (+328) Wrote install section.
<nixoswikibot> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ixxie * moved [[Installing Nix]] to [[Nix Installation Guide]]
<nixoswikibot> [[Installation guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=987&oldid=270&rcid=985 * Ixxie * (+8327) Merged the USB installation guide.
<nixoswikibot> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ixxie * moved [[Installation guide]] to [[NixOS Installation Guide]]: Name consistency.
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=990&oldid=988&rcid=987 * Ixxie * (+7547)
<makefu> i like that :)
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=991&oldid=990&rcid=988 * Ixxie * (-26)
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=992&oldid=991&rcid=989 * Ixxie * (+30)
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] !M https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=993&oldid=992&rcid=990 * Ixxie * (-133) Fixed formatting of Hybrid section.
<ixxie> thanks samueldr
<nixoswikibot> [[Installing NixOS from a USB stick]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=994&oldid=488&rcid=991 * Ixxie * (-8271) Blanked the page
<ixxie> what about deleting a page xD
<samueldr> sorry
<samueldr> disregard the fact I linked a local page here...
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=995&oldid=993&rcid=992 * Ixxie * (-66)
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=996&oldid=995&rcid=993 * Ixxie * (-2)
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=997&oldid=996&rcid=994 * Ixxie * (+23) Fixed headers install from linux section.
<ixxie> now I am wondering if we need the hybrid section
<ixxie> it refers to 14.04 and earlier
<ixxie> seems very out of date indeed :)
<makefu> yes we can remove the creation of "hybrid" images as all new images automatically are
<ixxie> samueldr: I guess I don't have permission to delete pages
<ixxie> who does?
<samueldr> fadenb for sure does
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<samueldr> pretty much only he does
<nixoswikibot> [[How to install NixOS from Linux]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=998&oldid=489&rcid=995 * Ixxie * (-7536) Redirected page to [[NixOS Installation Guide]]
<nixoswikibot> [[How to install NixOS from Linux]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=999&oldid=998&rcid=996 * Ixxie * (+22) Redirected page to [[NixOS Installation Guide#Installing from Linux]]
<ixxie> nvm just redericted it
<ixxie> hmmm - makefu - I am no longer sure which section is outdated
<ixxie> the article itself says the unetbootin section is more outdated
<makefu> ah you are right
<makefu> never knew cp nixos-xxx.iso /dev/sdb
<makefu> worked
<makefu> i was always (and will in the future) use dd
<makefu> no need for unetbootin under linux when you can just dd the image onto the stick
<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS Installation Guide]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=1000&oldid=997&rcid=997 * Ixxie * (-11) /* Using Unetbootin */
<ixxie> makefu: some people could use instructions with more GUI in them no?
<makefu> for the graphical installer this may be true
<makefu> for the cli stuff, not sure
<ixxie> anyway I'm off to bed
<ixxie> ill be around over the weekend to work on the logo, and maybe also the Nix / NixOS articles
<ixxie> gnight ^^
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<nixoswikibot> [[NixOS on ARM]] ! https://nixos.wiki/index.php?diff=1001&oldid=922&rcid=998 * Makefu * (-122)
<samueldr> hmm, afaict, it's missing that file
<samueldr> after installing firmware-linux-nonfree
<samueldr> (now, a more official source should be foudn)
<samueldr> found*
<makefu> but does it work?
<makefu> because i cannot get it running
<samueldr> didn't try it yet
<makefu> ahh .txt
<samueldr> yeah, two files it seems
<samueldr> I was misled by having found the first on in the firmware packages
<makefu> nix-locate brcmfmac43430-sdio.bin -> firmware-linux-nonfree
<makefu> nix-locate brcmfmac43430-sdio.txt -> nothing
<samueldr> exactly
<makefu> sounds easy enough
<makefu> mhh this is my config https://paste.krebsco.de/qKLpeAJA/+inline
<makefu> fixed the folder path, but i am not sure if this would work then
<samueldr> I'm still at work, I'll look into it once I'm at home
<samueldr> I had something similar I had to do for another esoteric wireless firmware
<makefu> thing is i didn't even got the direct firmware load error
<makefu> however with this mkderivation the firmware file is at the correct place at least
<makefu> (nixos-option hardware.firmware -> investigate the path lib/firmware/brcm/
<makefu> i need to get some sleep now, i will read the backlog :)
<samueldr> it worked
<samueldr> (after a reboot)
<samueldr> (did not actually try reloading the module or anyhing sensible before rebooting)
<samueldr> I haven't verified the interface works, but it is present