sphalerite changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS stable: 20.03 ✨ | 20.09 ZHF: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-zero-hydra-failures/8928 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 20.03 RMs: worldofpeace, disasm; 20.09: worldofpeace, jonringer | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<V> <qyliss> maybe, but there needs to be a better (more portable) solution ← writing a custom utility that performs word splitting & PATH lookup should be trivial; I'm surprised it hasn't been built already
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<ashkitten> who can i talk to about docs? i have a friend who wanted to try out nixos but got really turned around and i think their description of what happened could be very useful for improving our onboarding experience
<samueldr> can you write up the things before you forget them? I think garbas knows who's on the "new" docs team though
<samueldr> (I mean, write them up in personal notes or whatever)
<ashkitten> i've got a chatlog to reference
<samueldr> I don't think you'll get someone to talk about docs at this time of the night :)
<ashkitten> understandable
<samueldr> unless it's styles issues
<ashkitten> yeah i just wanted to ask around because i don't know who to ask in the first place
<samueldr> I really don't remember who's the docs people, but I think there are people that formed up in a team "recently" (soon to be a year ago?)
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<samueldr> hmm, we can't chain overrideAttrs as I observe, or am I doing it wrong?
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<samueldr> hm no, should work, I ended up having another bug in my reduced repro
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<andi-> hydra stopped building, is that known?
<andi-> ah, now it is doing things again. Looked empty for a minute.
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<Taneb> There doesn't seem a way for the binary cache server built in to Hydra to currently return a "Sig:" field in the narinfo files without setting the depracated "binary_cache_secret_key_file" option :(
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<clever> 31 scrubDerivations = namePrefix: pkgSet: mapAttrs
<clever> 36 // (optionalAttrs (isDerivation value) { outPath = "\${${wholeName}}"; })
<clever> samueldr: did i just stumble upon the answer in nixos/modules/misc/documentation.nix ....?
<samueldr> maybe you did
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<gchristensen> I everybody ready for hacktoberfest? :)
<samueldr> gchristensen: the invalid. tag ready?
<gchristensen> :P
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<niksnut> gchristensen: uh oh...
<gchristensen> :)
<qyliss> A hackerspace I know got two invalid PRs already
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<risson> Anyone knows how much a hydra evaluation of nixpkgs weighs in terms of storage?
<tilpner> I think it used to be ~80GB
<tilpner> YMMV with newer nixpkgs, unpacked storepaths/NARs/transparent compression
<risson> That's not much, is it
<tilpner> It adds up quickly if you put it on a timer to mirror as you go
<risson> Indeed
<tilpner> (The GC can take days if you let it accumulate a few months)
<risson> Yeah, it's going to be a one of build, I just wanted to know if I had to use really big disks
<tilpner> Might be slightly higher if you're going to build it yourself
<tilpner> The 80GB figure comes from fetching all store paths from the cache
<qyliss> gchristensen samueldr niksnut: https://github.com/phpmyadmin/website/pulls
<qyliss> I hope this isn't what we're in for
<qyliss> At least you can bulk label PRs
<gchristensen> oofta
<cransom> what the...
<drakonis> this horror show
<drakonis> is there any writeup on the current status of CAS or is it just through following the rfc?
<drakonis> we're definitely going to get those
<drakonis> i dont understand the point of this
<gchristensen> to Support Open Source (tm)
<qyliss> It seems to be a way bigger thing this year?
<qyliss> Like, my first hacktoberfest was probably like 2015 but I never saw all this spam and stuff
<gchristensen> free t-shirts are compelling
<samueldr> and it's limited this year
<samueldr> only 70 000 shirts
<samueldr> so people will game the system for a shirt
<drakonis> swell
<drakonis> there's a lot of crap PRs springing up on github
<drakonis> a whole lot of cursed CS stereotypes too
<cole-h> Let's close down Nixpkgs for all of October.
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<samueldr> I don't think we'll need to
<samueldr> the project might be too much "off the radar" for people to pick it
<samueldr> there's much juicier targets like microsoft notepad.exe or DOS
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<drakonis> it hasnt been on the explore page on github
<drakonis> so it'll be largely unscathed
<gchristensen> bittersweet
<drakonis> indeed
<drakonis> from the particular public i've been observing here
<samueldr> what I would have hoped for is that invalid PRs don't only stops counting the PR, but discredits the user totally
<gchristensen> oh I think it does
<drakonis> they arent converging with ours
<cole-h> Or at least the "spam" label
<samueldr> not according to the rules IIRC
<gchristensen> "If a maintainer reports your pull request as spam or behavior not in line with the project’s code of conduct, you will be ineligible to participate."
<samueldr> maybe different than invalid for that
<drakonis> the dreaded indian in CS stereotype is here it seems
<drakonis> i feel yucky just by writing that
<drakonis> apologies to anyone
<drakonis> it isnt the goal to be rude
<qyliss> drakonis: any repository named "website" seems to be being targetted
<drakonis> its generally really low effort
<drakonis> ugh
<samueldr> that's going to end up a honeypot, as repos made to game the system are against the rules lol
<drakonis> yes
<samueldr> oh, no, hadn't read and assumed it was another of those "just add your name" kind of fake project
<drakonis> there are a bunch of people using it to game the system already
<drakonis> it can arguably be said it isnt built to game the system, but it is being used to do that anyways
<qyliss> the weirdest thing is
<qyliss> PRs to your own repos count
<puck> lmao yeah
<samueldr> yep
<qyliss> so if you want to game the system why not just do that rather than spamming people?
<puck> qyliss: because people don't realise that's possible, maybe?
<qyliss> I feel like this is probably going to be the last Hacktoberfest
<qyliss> Because I've never seen anything like this before
<qyliss> And can't imagine DO coming out of this looking good
<drakonis> i'll have to observe that the stereotype is true this time
<drakonis> unfortunately
<drakonis> my znc is very weird today
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