#nixos-dev on 2020-09-21

2020-09-12 12:40 sphalerite changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS stable: 20.03 ✨ | 20.09 ZHF: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-zero-hydra-failures/8928 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 20.03 RMs: worldofpeace, disasm; 20.09: worldofpeace, jonringer | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev

00:13 <ivan> garbas++

00:13 <{^_^}> garbas's karma got increased to 19.000000000000007

00:14 <ris> wat

00:18 <drakonis> <3 garbas

00:18 <{^_^}> garbas's karma got increased to 20

00:18 <drakonis> it is called a rounding error!

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00:38 <infinisil> Aw jeeze I should really fix that in the karma plugin

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01:15 <cole-h> Oh wow

01:15 <cole-h> That redesign looks gorgeous tbh

01:15 <cole-h> garbas++

01:15 <{^_^}> garbas's karma got increased to 21

01:16 <cole-h> samueldr++ I think you were also involved-ish, so free karma for you ;^)

01:16 <{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 270

01:16 <samueldr> ish?

01:16 <samueldr> though I know you're joking from that emoticon :)

01:17 <cole-h> (Sorry, I didn't follow any of the redesign, but I have seen you push stuff to nixos-homepage; this is the first I've heard of it :x )

01:17 <cole-h> So, joking-ish :D

01:17 <samueldr> the implementation is quite majorly my doing

01:17 <cole-h> Then samueldr++ x10

01:17 <{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 271

01:17 <cole-h> Well done

01:17 <cole-h> <3

01:18 <samueldr> thanks

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01:38 <worldofpeace> samueldr: yep really thanks a lot. I had a chance to talk to garbas about this and I think he said it would be "ready by the end of the month", but it seems it was even earlier. I'm very happy with it

01:38 <samueldr> by

01:38 <samueldr> not ath

01:38 <samueldr> at*

01:39 <samueldr> :)

01:40 <worldofpeace> lol, watch the native english speaker not understand english 🤣

01:53 <samueldr> nah, that's a perfectly fine way to understand what was said

01:54 <cole-h> "Under-promise, over-deliver" :D

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15:37 <ryantm> samueldr++ garbas++

15:37 <{^_^}> garbas's karma got increased to 22

15:37 <{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 272, that's Numberwang!

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20:20 <worldofpeace> why is fakeHash in deprecated.nix?

20:22 <cole-h> New nix versions allow empty hashes and treat it as 00000000000.... or sha256-AAAAAAAAAAA.....

20:22 <cole-h> Maybe that's why.

20:24 <jtojnar> it was always in deprecated IIRC

20:24 <cole-h> O

20:25 <jtojnar> lib.misc is in deprecated.nix for some reason

20:27 <worldofpeace> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/53754#issuecomment-453140796

20:27 <worldofpeace> "it's a hack"

20:28 <infinisil> I totally think lib/deprecated.nix is the wrong place for this

20:30 <worldofpeace> infinisil: I agree, before it was in trivial.nix

20:30 <worldofpeace> Do you think that would be the right place now?

20:30 <infinisil> Not sure about the right place, but trivial.nix seems much better than deprecated.nix

20:31 <infinisil> Because it is trivial, and not deprecated

20:31 <cole-h> lib/hacks.nix :P

20:31 <infinisil> Maybe lib/derivation-utils.nix

20:31 <worldofpeace> cole-h: that file would quickly become huge 😸

20:32 <cole-h> Hehe

20:32 <infinisil> derivation-utils.nix could also contain lib.isDerivation, lib.toDerivation, lib.getOutput, lib.getBin, etc., recurseIntoAttrs

20:33 <worldofpeace> infinisil: sounds perfect

20:34 <infinisil> And lib.getName and getVersion

20:35 <infinisil> And sanitizeDerivationName

20:35 <cole-h> And lib.get{Lib,...}

20:36 <infinisil> Yea all of those

20:36 <infinisil> I didn't list them all, but there's a whole bunch

20:36 <cole-h> I'll give a free r+ to whoever PRs it :P

20:38 <worldofpeace> almost done writing the issue

20:38 <jtojnar> is the empty hash support merged? we could just remove the functions

20:39 <worldofpeace> cole-h: infinisil https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/98422

20:39 <cole-h> Not backported to Nix stable though

20:39 <worldofpeace> not sure

20:39 <{^_^}> #98422 (by worldofpeace, 18 seconds ago, open): Create a lib/derivation-utils.nix (and move fake hashes there)

20:39 <jtojnar> * is the empty hash support merged? we could just remove the attributes

20:39 <cole-h> It's only present in Nix from master

20:39 <worldofpeace> hmm, I didn't really know nix did the empty hash thing now. Link to the implementation/s?

20:40 <cole-h> https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/3674

20:40 <{^_^}> nix#3674 (by matthewbauer, 14 weeks ago, merged): Allow empty hash in derivations

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20:42 <infinisil> Huh, but like, why print the 000000 at all?

20:42 <infinisil> In that PR

20:42 <infinisil> Why not just explicitly make the error be "No hash provided, but we got <hash>"

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