<abathur>
Dandellion worldofpeace not sure what zimbatm would say in their defense but I recall searching around a bit when we had the travis-ci break in late may and getting the sense that it had to do with just the confusion and inconsistency around them?
<abathur>
people/tools using multiple algos and different encodings of those algos, i.e. humans having a hard time eyeballing hashes in a variable named sha256 but having different encodings, old thread example https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/806
<{^_^}>
nix#806 (by gitfoxi, 4 years ago, closed): sha256 - Nothing makes sense
<ris>
ummmm.. why do we have both elasticmq and elasticmq-server?
<ris>
the elasticmq one seems to be very old and without maintainer
<ris>
very tempted to remove it
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<worldofpeace>
I find it funny when people us nix and they're like "why is it that I changed this thing and now everything rebuilds", and then I mention how the rpath stuff etc. works and they say "that's weird". like this is actually the entire point 🤣 I'm wondering if that isn't mentioned prominently enough
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<abathur>
anyone know/have a good workflow for hacking on the installer scripts?
<abathur>
for nix, sorry
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<samueldr>
I don't think so, but graham had at some point a testing matrix for validating on multiple platforms
<samueldr>
I don't know how it was made
<abathur>
yeah
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<abathur>
I guess my best bet is to just download the most-recent installer tarball, unpack it, edit, try running install, and worry about porting edits if I actually fix anything :]
<LnL>
you can build the tarball in the nix repo, but you don't really want to go through that every time
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<samueldr>
Mic92: I swear I'm not trying to make your life harder :)
<Mic92>
samueldr: you can just commit changes like this directly by pressing the append button.
<samueldr>
sure, but they're also suggestions
<samueldr>
I always feel uneasy directly editing another contributor's PR
<Mic92>
I dont mind.
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<worldofpeace>
hehe, samueldr I usually just straight push stuff and I don't think I've had someone mind yet (though in new contributor cases I ask)
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<ris>
:/ nixosTests all broken on master right now?
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<abathur>
following up; thoughts on whether there's a low-sweat path to testing the Nix install process from arbitrary commits on Nix or a fork? Do full release tarballs get built/hosted by any CI process, or just on official releases?
<abathur>
Not sure exactly what the Nix GH actions test encompasses, but I'm assuming it falls short of that since it seems to recursively depends on install-nix-action working
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<ryantm>
We have `stringAfter` for controlling the order of activationScripts. Is there some equivalent to `stringBefore`? I see that isn't defined in strings-with-deps.nix
<ryantm>
I'm trying to do something really early in the activationScripts order, I'm not too familiar with what the major activation script items are.
<infinisil>
ryantm: Nope
<infinisil>
I am investigating adding something like that though