sphalerite changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS stable: 20.03 ✨ | 20.09 ZHF: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-zero-hydra-failures/8928 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 20.03 RMs: worldofpeace, disasm; 20.09: worldofpeace, jonringer | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<colemickens> Was a change made that allows `nix` to work and print usage with a zero exit even when the daemon doesn't have `experimental-features` enabled?
<colemickens> I have to actually call `nix build` without the flag to get a non-zero exit now.
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<Dandellion> does ofborg request reviews for new packages now?
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<sphalerite> niksnut: anything blocking https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/3814 ?
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<{^_^}> nix#3814 (by Ma27, 10 weeks ago, open): Add `allRefs = true` argument to `fetchGit` to explicitly perform a full checkout
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<yorick> sphalerite: yes, esthetics
<yorick> sphalerite: I think ref = "*" got explicitly re-broken
<yorick> (as promised in nix#2409)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2409 (by yegortimoshenko, 2 years ago, open): Make fetchGit do full checkout if ref = "*"
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<niksnut> sphalerite: thanks, added a few comments
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<ghuntley> doot doot, needs review over at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/98914
<{^_^}> #98914 (by ghuntley, 2 days ago, open): physlock: expose option to mute kernel messages when locked
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<arianvp> hmm
<arianvp> runInLinuxVM doesn't seem to have a /dev/loop
<clever> arianvp: you may need to modprobe loop?
<arianvp> that got me a step further; but now it hangs when mounting loopback devices
<arianvp> hmmph
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<arianvp> ah this is my fault; the utility I run expects a functioning systemd environment (and is waiting for udev events)
<arianvp> runInLinuxVM doesnt run a systemd I presume :P
<clever> arianvp: run `ps -eHx` in there, youll find that bash is pid 1
<clever> `ps -eH x` i mean
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<arianvp> is there any docs on what kind of voodoo magic happens with buildInputs when cross-compiling?
<arianvp> like; does it literally rewrite all the derivations in place or something? Like we pass in `pkgs` right; but somehow those packages are monkey-patched to crossPkgs
<arianvp> HOW
<qyliss> I think this is in the manual?
<arianvp> found it indeed
<arianvp> yucky yuck haha
<arianvp> i love it
<arianvp> top-level/splice.nix is the juicy stuff
<worldofpeace> um, I wonder why this build on aarch64 doesn't instantiate https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.99112&attempt_id=480a69e0-ca32-4185-bd3e-3ec9c34168f1 the message is soo unclear.
<arianvp> I especially like how Xorg is special-cased in there :)
<arianvp> or maybe xorg means something else in this context. I hope it does
<worldofpeace> omg the manual looks fab! it's not the 90s anymore
<arianvp> worldofpeace: I know right
<arianvp> almost not ashamed of NixOS anymore :D
<qyliss> I find the huge text quite difficult to read
<samueldr> worldofpeace: it never was
<qyliss> it's _extremely_ wide too
<arianvp> qyliss: defenitely. I think people want to tackle this after the "what doc format are we gonna use" debate
<samueldr> qyliss: what do you mean extremely wide?
<arianvp> (if we want multi-page manual )
<qyliss> samueldr: line length
<samueldr> character size or line widths?
<arianvp> line-width is kinda wide yeh
<cole-h> worldofpeace: Maybe due to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/97807
<{^_^}> #97807 (by Ma27, 2 weeks ago, merged): top-level: fix nix-shell eval w/nixUnstable
<samueldr> but the line widths are the same as the previous manual IIRC
<samueldr> but made smaller in character count by upping the font size
<qyliss> hmm I don't remember
<samueldr> it's using the same "responsive breakpoints" for the different viewport sizes supported
<qyliss> it's the combination of both the huge line length and huge text that makes it feel a bit distractingly in-my-face
<qyliss> better on 80% zoom, although still a bit wide
<cole-h> worldofpeace: wait maybe not
<cole-h> worldofpeace: Are all aarch64 build logs like that?
<worldofpeace> yeah, I don't think the builders even use nixUnstable
<samueldr> when I was comparing the docs to see if there were missing styles, pretty much all the text ended up matching line-wise
<worldofpeace> cole-h: I can check
<qyliss> I really love the bright green headings though
<worldofpeace> cole-h: I probably should look on hydra also since the build fails but I'm not sure if it's because of "that"
<samueldr> so maybe it's some kind of "observation bias"? now that you're observing changes, you're observing it more fresh?
<samueldr> the bright green headings probably have "to go" / to be reviewed, they are likely not compliant with accessibility
<samueldr> (the lighter blue ones too)
<qyliss> aw :(
<samueldr> yeah
<qyliss> fwiw I'm using dark reader, so they probably stand out more to me than normal
<samueldr> though it's likely to stay close~ish, just upping the contrast enough
<samueldr> oh, right
<samueldr> in that case you're using the site wrong ;)
<worldofpeace> I love good contrast 👍️
<samueldr> it's borderline okay IIRC
<samueldr> or uh, borderline from being okay
<qyliss> checked the old manual in the Wayback machine and it's also extremely wide, yeah
<qyliss> I'd forgotten
<samueldr> (tbf, I think those measurements are kinda bad because they don't account for "fatter" characters, which intrinsically help with contrast)
<worldofpeace> cole-h: yes https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.99086&attempt_id=5a82e536-ef45-4311-901c-8eada7e0f701
<worldofpeace> that's gnugrep
<samueldr> qyliss: :) the pleasures of observing something fresh
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<samueldr> I've had a client ask of me to copy feature-for-feature as website, and them lambasted me for all the weird bugs
<worldofpeace> ohh I just saw vcunat's message. infinisil do u still have a darwin machine?
<cole-h> worldofpeace: OK, thanks. I'll look into it :/
<qyliss> samueldr: lol
<infinisil> worldofpeace: Yeah, though there's also https://nixos.wiki/wiki/OSX-KVM now :D
<samueldr> (look for forks of OSX-KVM from NixOS community users too)
<worldofpeace> infinisil: have you tried it, was wondering how long it realistically would take to setup?
<worldofpeace> nice
<infinisil> Haven't tried it
<samueldr> IIRC once you have the files it's about the time it takes to run the setup wizard
<samueldr> and then you have a KVM machine... so from then on it's basically working with that apple product
<samueldr> so if you're not used to it it might take you a while to get setup
<samueldr> though I haven't used it since they started being much stricter with the rootfs
<worldofpeace> yeah that sounds kind of a hassle to setup imperatively for one build
<worldofpeace> infinisil: let me know when the connection "is up"
<cole-h> worldofpeace: I wonder why this isn't happening for x86_64-linux...
<samueldr> since when can we do the following and not break the manual build when the package is not supported? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/9f973593c81e4bbd78afe8e72394e2eb47a85c8d/nixos/modules/services/networking/biboumi.nix#L109
<samueldr> it ends up as `default = "${pkgs.biboumi}/etc/biboumi";` in the options.json
<samueldr> though it seems it's done at a level that didn't affect the Mobile NixOS documentation toolchain, so that still breaks when adding a default that way
<infinisil> worldofpeace: `ssh -p 2362 worldofpeace@infinisil.com` :)
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<cole-h> ma27[m]: ping
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<samueldr> or, let's change the question, since it seems that's different than setting `default = pkgs.something`
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<samueldr> how does it go from a nix expression "${something}" to the literal escaped string "${something}" for the documentation?
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<clever> samueldr: installer/cd-dvd/sd-image.nix: example = literalExample "'' cp \${pkgs.myBootLoader}/u-boot.bin firmware/ ''";
<clever> its already been escaped by the user
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<samueldr> clever: sure, some are
<samueldr> and many more
<clever> Default: "\${pkgs.biboumi}/etc/biboumi"
<samueldr> and just tested a simple test, types.package, `default = pkgs.hello;` fails, but `default = "${pkgs.hello}";` escapes
<clever> oh, interesting
<samueldr> (fails if you set hello to an unfree license or that it doesn't build for your platform)
<clever> 135 options = (buildFromConfig ({ ... }: { }) (config: config.system.build.manual.optionsJSON)).x86_64-linux;
<clever> nixos/lib/make-options-doc/default.nix: optionsJSON = pkgs.runCommand "options.json"
<clever> 143 cp ${builtins.toFile "options.json" (builtins.unsafeDiscardStringContext (builtins.toJSON optionsNix))} $dst/options.json
<clever> 37 // lib.optionalAttrs (opt ? default) { default = substFunction opt.default; }
<clever> 22 , transformOptions ? lib.id # function for additional tranformations of the options
<samueldr> this happens before the toJSON AFAICT, as
<samueldr> > builtins.toJSON "${pkgs.hello}"
<{^_^}> "\"/nix/store/w9yy7v61ipb5rx6i35zq1mvc2iqfmps1-hello-2.10\""
<clever> nixos/doc/manual/default.nix: transformOptions = opt: opt // {
<samueldr> sorry clever, that doesn't help
* clever digs more
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/nixpkgs-hasura]$ nix repl nixos --arg configuration '{ fileSystems."/" = {}; boot.loader.grub.device = "/dev/sda"; }'
<clever> nix-repl> :b config.system.build.manual.optionsJSON
<clever> "services.biboumi.settings.policy_directory":{"declarations":["nixos/modules/services/networking/biboumi.nix"],"default":"${pkgs.biboumi}/etc/biboumi",
<clever> samueldr: ok, so its already been escaped by this point
<samueldr> yep
<clever> nix-repl> (builtins.elemAt (builtins.elemAt (options.services.biboumi.settings.type.functor.payload.modules) 0).imports 0).options.policy_directory.default
<clever> "/nix/store/4rdqsm9i2c2bb82jgrfg3s96g2bdjyav-biboumi-8.5/etc/biboumi"
<clever> samueldr: but its not escaped within the options tree...
<clever> 83 optionsListVisible = lib.filter (opt: opt.visible && !opt.internal) (lib.optionAttrSetToDocList options);
<clever> maybe this...
<clever> 158 // optionalAttrs (opt ? default) { default = scrubOptionValue opt.default; }
<clever> 169 /* This function recursively removes all derivation attributes from
<clever> 170 `x` except for the `name` attribute.
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<ma27[m]> cole-h: what did I miss?
<cole-h> ma27[m]: Is there a reason you didn't use glittershark's suggestion to add an ellipsis to pkgs/top-level/default.nix, and instead just removed the `inNixShell` attr in impure.nix?
<cole-h> (Was just reading through that PR and the linked Nix issue)
<{^_^}> nix#4003 (by Ma27, 2 weeks ago, open): `nix-shell` breaks with an eval-error in `nixpkgs` with Nix 3.0pre
<{^_^}> #97807 (by Ma27, 2 weeks ago, merged): top-level: fix nix-shell eval w/nixUnstable
<clever> samueldr: yeah, i'm completely stumped on how this is escaping things
<samueldr> I am too
<samueldr> I traced out another method of ignoring the problem that doesn't matter though
<samueldr> still, that's highly magical
<samueldr> I don't even get how it can go back to the nix source!
<samueldr> > "${pkgs.hello}" # → "\${pkgs.hello}" # how???
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/w9yy7v61ipb5rx6i35zq1mvc2iqfmps1-hello-2.10"
<ma27[m]> cole-h: frankly I'm not sure anymore, sorry! Is there something wrong with the current state?
<cole-h> ma27[m]: I don't think so, but I think if it were an ellipsis, borg's aarch64 wouldn't be throwing eval errors (https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.99086&attempt_id=5a82e536-ef45-4311-901c-8eada7e0f701, https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.99077&attempt_id=d9081f77-4506-4beb-b593-98f693e73a2c, https://logs.nix.ci/?key=nixos/nixpkgs.99076&attempt_id=d128c36f-72ef-49ab-8e8e-ab40f34347ef)
<cole-h> ma27[m]: Don't know if it's something with the builder, or nixpkgs (though builder is suspect since x86_64 is fine)
<ma27[m]> I see. I guess an ellipsis would be the better solution then.
<cole-h> But I'd much rather know why this is happening... :P
<ma27[m]> as we're talking about aarch64, is this happening on the community builder?
<cole-h> Yeah
<cole-h> (Which is what borg uses to do stuff on aarch64)
<cole-h> I saw that too. It's not unlikely, but it's strange that it's only popping up just "now" (I'm pretty sure I've seen this before this week -- maybe even before this month, but didn't think much of it).
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<ma27[m]> cole-h: I'm fairly sure that this happened for the same reason why I had issues with `inNixShell`: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/4003
<{^_^}> nix#4003 (by Ma27, 2 weeks ago, open): `nix-shell` breaks with an eval-error in `nixpkgs` with Nix 3.0pre
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<ma27[m]> the behavior how arguments from `--argstr` are passed to nix code (previously, values not in `{ foo ? x, bar, ... }` were ignored from `--argstr`)
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<cole-h> Ahhhh, right, yes.
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<ma27[m]> so, ellipsis is ineed a way better solution
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<ma27[m]> sorry for that.
<cole-h> And now they go "all the way through"
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<cole-h> All good :) At least it's an easy fix
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<worldofpeace> ahh nvm LnL responded
<LnL> hm?
<worldofpeace> LnL: I was asking infinisil if his macos machine was up but u responded that it builds 👍️. It was out of context because matrix hasn't synced messages just yet (figured that out from looking at the irc logs)
<infinisil> worldofpeace: Can you confirm that you can log in?
<LnL> ah yeah, gimp also succeeded so with that darwin-tested should be green
<infinisil> As an emergency mac if needed for the release :P
<LnL> I can also easily setup an interactive session on gh
<worldofpeace> infinisil: It works!✨
<worldofpeace> LnL: what do you mean by "an interactive session"?
<infinisil> \o/
<LnL> I linked the definitions, one sets up a tmate session to a github action builder
<worldofpeace> LnL: oh, I just needed to scroll up https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/99112#issuecomment-700983049 that's pretty cool 👍️
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