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<lovesegfault> gchristensen: Is there a way to look at Nixops docs for master?
<lovesegfault> Trying to understand how nixops does secrets
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<c00w> this may be a naive question - but do we get github tickets / notifications when hydra gets jammed?
<c00w> hoverbear - I do that actually. It's pretty easy to write nix to package up sources + nix code, then send it to a machine and build it
<samueldr> c00w: nothing
<samueldr> someone needs to notice it
<c00w> oooooh - interesting
<c00w> status.nixos.org does seem to have the data, so sounds like a bot could be written.
<samueldr> it has some data
<samueldr> I don't think it would see a failing eval
<samueldr> which is different from a failing build
<c00w> Sure, but incremental steps :)
<samueldr> yes
<samueldr> I think I was trying to say: sometimes it's not even trying to build!
<c00w> Oh jeez
<samueldr> (rarely)
<c00w> Right now I'm seeing that makeself is failing
<c00w> But when I run it locally on master it seems to pass
<c00w> Both on head + the specific commit hydra claims it failed on
<c00w> oooh - we have repro commands, trying them now
<c00w> I really wish nix-build had a option to force a rebuild even if it already built.
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<infinisil> c00w: It does, --check :)
<c00w> Sweet :)
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<clever> c00w: but why do you need to force a rebuild?
<c00w> I'm trying to figure out why hydra failed on something
<c00w> And wanted to rerun the build repeatedly to see if it was flaky
<infinisil> Good usecase for --check
<c00w> I'm also sitting on a slow internet connection, so the repro command takes a while to download nixpkgs
<clever> c00w: that sounds like a use-case for --repeat
<infinisil> Oh the repro command is awful
<clever> c00w: you can make nix repeat every build N times, and also fail it they arent bit identical
<c00w> oooh - what's the command for that?
<infinisil> (because it's so slow)
<clever> c00w: `nix-build --repeat 1` will repeat it an extra 1 time (2 times total)
<c00w> well - it's passing for 100 repeats
<clever> you can also set `repeat = 1` in nix.conf
<c00w> hmmm - it may actually not be respecting it with conjunction to --check
<clever> you may need to `nix-store --delete` the path first, and then hide it from the cache list with --option
<c00w> Well - I just get the git clone by 3 orders of magnitude for the repro command
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<{^_^}> hydra#789 (by c00w, 13 seconds ago, open): reproduce: Only download the needed commit
<infinisil> Nice!
<c00w> The other thing that is weird is I'm running these repros, and they all seem to be succeeding.
<c00w> I'm wondering if something related to https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/144, is actually responsible
<{^_^}> hydra#144 (by wizeman, 6 years ago, open): Misleading failure caching
<c00w> But let me finish running all the repros, then I'll start digging into hydra
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<c00w> Yeah - they all seem to build.
<c00w> I guess I'll have to teach hydra to not cache failures?
<c00w> Or perhaps more accurately, not use the cached failures from another build
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<multun> how would you create a chroot with only some packages in it?
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<multun> woops wrong channel, sorry
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<rnhmjoj> Jan Tojnar: sorry for the late reply, i have been away. i'll check that patch to see if it fixes the problem with otb fonts and open a PR if it does
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