#nixos-dev on 2020-06-20

2020-04-21 00:01 worldofpeace_ changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: #nixos-dev NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | NixOS stable: 20.03 ✨ https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-03-release/6785 | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | https://r13y.com | 19.09 RMs: disasm, sphalerite; 20.03: worldofpeace, disasm | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev

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08:28 <delroth> signal-boosting https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/91145 -- it's a fairly critical (as in, makes graphical systems unusable with the most common GPU) issue and it's not entirely clear to me what's the way forward (I'm looking at fixing patchelf, but that will rebuild the world, and presumably we don't want to leave this broken until next staging merge)

08:28 <{^_^}> #91145 (by delroth, 2 hours ago, open): mesa broken since patchelf update to 0.11

08:28 <delroth> would love some input from more experienced folks as to how they would handle this fix

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10:45 <Profpatsch> Can we please merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware into nixpkgs?

10:45 <Profpatsch> There’s no reason under the sun that we keep it in a separate repository, apart from making it harder to discover.

10:46 <Profpatsch> It has 350 commits over multiple years, it won’t even be noticed.

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10:53 <makefu> nixos-hardware is nice because contributing your super special hardware config is much easier to argue

10:54 <makefu> however it would be great if the installer would detect your hadware and apply the configuration

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11:53 <niksnut> Profpatsch: please no

11:53 <niksnut> the nixpkgs repo is already way to bloated

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12:18 <gchristensen> Profpatsch: I don't know that it was a good idea to merge two projects with less than 1 hour of consideration

12:19 <gchristensen> and disagreement

12:19 <gchristensen> and mismatching license issues

12:22 <Profpatsch> Feel free to revert and bikeshed into all eternity

12:22 <gchristensen> okay

12:22 <Profpatsch> I’m gonna do something productive in the meanwhile *shrug*

12:22 <Profpatsch> It’s 4000 lines

12:25 <Profpatsch> People are watching

12:26 <Profpatsch> Many of them are starting to do their own thing because they are unhappy with the direction of nixpkgs

12:26 <Profpatsch> They think flakes is not the right way forward and we should have more monorepo instead of less monorepo

12:26 <Profpatsch> This is my strong impression

12:27 <gchristensen> I know

12:27 <Profpatsch> nixos-hardware is 4000 lines of code, and it’s badly maintained *because* it’s not in nixpkgs

12:27 <gchristensen> being in nixpkgs does not good maintenance make

12:27 <Profpatsch> because everything that is not in nixpkgs will rot and go out of sync

12:27 <Mic92> And we can also not reference it in our nixos-generate-config because its not part of nixpkgs.

12:29 <gchristensen> it could be good for making the default configuration richer

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13:08 <gchristensen> thank you, Mic92

13:08 <Mic92> gchristensen: we are drafting the RFC right now

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13:34 <manveru> is there some way to figure out why `nixos-rebuild switch` for a remote host blocks forever after the `starting units` line?

13:41 <MichaelRaskin> Mic92: why tiers?

13:48 <Profpatsch> RFC is here: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/70

13:48 <{^_^}> rfcs#70 (by Mic92, 17 minutes ago, open): [RFC 0070] Merge nixos-hardware in to nixpkgs (#70)

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13:54 <manveru> hmm

13:54 <manveru> that eval cache has an issue still

13:55 <manveru> instead of waiting, it errors out like `error: SQLite database '/home/manveru/.cache/nix/eval-cache-v1/xxx.sqlite' is busy

13:56 <eyJhb> Vell this is new - https://termbin.com/q441

13:56 <eyJhb> Not very informative error? :/

13:57 <manveru> that's when you pull out strace to see what json it's parsing... but yeah

13:59 <eyJhb> I am doing no json parsing in my program manveru

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13:59 <manveru> you aren't, but maybe lxc or qemu or whatever it's calling

13:59 <eyJhb> Just trying different things in nix till it works, and then this hit me :p

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14:06 <eyJhb> I would just have expected a show trace to display some more. Didn't even show the file it was in

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14:11 <eyJhb> ah. it is closureInfo that does not play well :)

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14:24 <Mic92> MichaelRaskin: copy'n'paste error.

14:33 <MichaelRaskin> Ah

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18:30 <samueldr> if someone is tempted to restart the aborted unstable jobs, read this first https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/91145#issuecomment-646975082

18:34 <cole-h> Would be cool if there was a way to attach a note to a job, so when you try to restart, it gets displayed and asks you to reconsider.

18:41 <samueldr> yes

18:41 <samueldr> well, more to the point, any cancel should have a note attached

18:42 <gchristensen> that'd be cool

18:42 <samueldr> "canceled because the next evaluation will also be a stdenv rebuild see issue #1234567"

18:42 <gchristensen> that sounds great

18:46 <cole-h> Sounds like an issue should be filed... Against NixOS/hydra? (I dunno if the webpage stuff is handled in another repo)

18:47 <gchristensen> yea

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19:01 <cole-h> https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/786

19:01 <{^_^}> hydra#786 (by cole-h, 8 seconds ago, open): Cancellations should have a note attached

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19:50 <lovesegfault> ping domenkozar[m]; beets is broken

19:50 <lovesegfault> I'm trying to figure out why, but it's not clear to me, seems like some python update broke the web plugin

19:50 <lovesegfault> cc. aszlig pjones

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23:33 <Irenes[m]> testing (Matrix bridge issue)

23:33 <Irenes[m]> okay, seems to work