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<ryantm> Thanks to zowoq the stale bot is working! https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/89278#issuecomment-636600376
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<andi-> Not sure that's worth the bytes it wastes...
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<arianvp> We have a stale bot now?
<arianvp> Did I miss some discussion on this? I suggested introducing one and that discussion wasn't very well-received... So wonder how / why people changed their minds?
<LnL> I'm not aware of anything
<niksnut> I think the main objection was to auto-closing issues
<rnhmjoj> i also got to wake up to some ghost of the past (issue). do you know where this was discussed?
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<MichaelRaskin> arianvp: I think RFCs#51 was that discussion, where there were objections re:closing, but setting a label ended up way less controversial
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/51 (by ryantm, 40 weeks ago, merged): [RFC 0051] Mark stale nixpkgs issues
<arianvp> Ahhh
<arianvp> Danke
<MichaelRaskin> Bitte
<Profpatsch> ryantm: look good!
<Profpatsch> *looks
<Profpatsch> As long as it doesn’t close automatically, this is a UX improvement
<arianvp> Agreed
<Profpatsch> Especially the suggestions at the end
<Profpatsch> Also triaging is as simple as filtering by stale tag now.
<JJJollyjim> Oh cool I'm glad it's not closing
<Profpatsch> ryantm: will it also comment on PRs?
<MichaelRaskin> I think it does
<JJJollyjim> The "we haven't acknowleged this so it doesn't exist" thing really annoys me, especially in commercial products
<MichaelRaskin> Isn't the standard «we acknowledged it and it still doesn't exist»?
<NinjaTrappeur> what happens if we end up not doing that twice a year?
<NinjaTrappeur> Ah, I get it, the stale label will be removed once you reply to the bot.
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<FRidh> I don't think I've ever received as much mail as today.
* gchristensen hasn't checked yet
<LnL> don't really get the point of spamming a few hundred people
<pie_> well...we'll see how it goes...
<niksnut> might be better to send these notifications continuously rather than twice a year
<pie_> do the notifications get sent twice a year or just 6 months between notifications for a given issue, because i assumed the latter
<infinisil> Pretty sure it's 6 months after the last activity in a Pr/issue
<infinisil> The fact that we get these notifications only now is just because it wasn't working for 6 months and just got fixed: #89278
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/89278 (by zowoq, 11 hours ago, merged): .github/stale.yml: quote labels
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<aanderse> manveru: thanks for replying. is there someone else people can bug about ruby? i get the distinct feeling you don't want to be the ruby person anymore... and thats fair :)
<manveru> aanderse: not really :)
<manveru> i'll do what needs to be done until someone wants to step up, but i have the feeling nobody is that much into ruby anymore these days :P
<aanderse> well... manveru++ for being such a trooper and putting up with stuff you don't want to :P
<{^_^}> manveru's karma got increased to 44
<manveru> sorry if i seem frustrated, we just have an incredible amount of complexity caused by bundler, when all it should actually do is resolving dependency graphs...
<manveru> and i'm not using ruby for much of anything anymore, so i don't notice issues actively anymore
<aanderse> no frustration here... you fixed the only issue i had :)
<aanderse> i've never written a line of ruby, just used an app written in ruby
<manveru> i guess that's the common experience these days :)
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<ma27[m]> gchristensen: in case you have time to, can you provide some feedback to the db-migration topic in https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/743 ? :)
<{^_^}> hydra#743 (by Ma27, 4 weeks ago, open): Add a filter for maintainers in the jobset-eval view
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<Ericson2314> niksnut: how should I distinguish the Nix PRs that are part of some large idea (but still passing and not WIP) from the ones that aren't (like the one you merged already about bool -> enum) and wholly ready to go?
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<aminechikhaoui> I see we still support openssl 1.0.2 in 20.03/19.09, anyone complained about https://www.cmu.edu/iso/service/cert-auth/addtrust.html ?
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<ryantm> Profpatsch: Yes it should not close; Yes it should comment on PRs.
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<adisbladis> FWIW I was against the stale bot until I saw it in action
<adisbladis> It's a good reminder =)
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<ryantm> I'm sorry that it being misconfigured resulted in a bunch of emails all at once. I hope it will be more reasonable/manageable going forward.
<adisbladis> ryantm: It's OK :) Mistakes happen.
<Profpatsch> ryantm: Emails can be batch-deleted :)
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<clever> > "${hello}"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/hs6rg4zbsclx660s6i5938605zmv6lgh-hello-2.10"
<gchristensen> > ack 1 2
<{^_^}> 4
<Profpatsch> should I?
<Profpatsch> > ack 2 2
<{^_^}> 7
<Profpatsch> > ack 2 4
<{^_^}> 11
<Profpatsch> > ack 3 2
<{^_^}> 29
<clever> > :v ack
<{^_^}> ack = m: n: if m == 0 then n + 1 else if (m > 0 && n == 0) then (ack (m - 1) 1) else (ack (m - 1) (ack m (n - 1)))
<Profpatsch> Is this the ackermann function? I kinda don’t want to try further? :)
<gchristensen> it is
<gchristensen> it is okay, you won't blow up the universe
<Profpatsch> wp says 4 2 has 17k decimal places
<Profpatsch> > ack 4 2
<Profpatsch> hoo boi
<pie_> hooo boy
* gchristensen waits for the universe to collapse
<pie_> xD
<lassulus> > "${hello}"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/hs6rg4zbsclx660s6i5938605zmv6lgh-hello-2.10"
<lassulus> hmm
<lassulus> ah
<pie_> it lives?
<gchristensen> {^_^}
<Profpatsch> integer overflow -> error
<gchristensen> {^_^} has a robust architecture
<pie_> yeah i would have thought infinis added timeouts or something
<Profpatsch> wait, does nix wrap?
<Profpatsch> it does :(
<pie_> whoops
<{^_^}> error: stack overflow (possible infinite recursion)
<Profpatsch> ah
<pie_> :D
<infinisil> It doesn't have a timeout yet, but it's limited to half the RAM :)
<infinisil> (although it can still fill up the whole swap)
<gchristensen> good to know
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<samueldr> "fun" issue, what sort algorithm should be used in a list of attribute names in e.g. all-packages.nix?
<samueldr> should it ignore case, so naturally?
<gchristensen> hrm. there is a certain amount of argument that it should do wahtever it does now, no matter what thaht is
<samueldr> if I use vim's :sort it puts ROCRK3399PC before Rock64, using :!sort (to call `sort`) puts it after ubootRockPro64
<gchristensen> oh you mean in terms of organizing in the text file. not nix's behavior, nvm :)
<samueldr> yeah
<samueldr> I'm not talking about the unordered mess, but a small subsection that *is* kept ordered
<samueldr> we simply never had a name that broke the mold enough that two commands named sort did different things
<samueldr> I know I'm picking nits here, I can probably do either and both are right, but I'm curious about opinions
<samueldr> I think I'll go with :!sort (so unix `sort`) simply because it's editor agnostic
<samueldr> (I said editor agnostic, not locale agnostic!)
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