<andi->
samueldr: yeah thats what I meant... they are just register key presses while an $element is style like a text area but actually is something else.. syntax highlighting and such are proably to blame
<colemickens>
Well, coffee shop drama happened and I'm back offline, but was going to try to fix my overlay being used with 18.09 and then start pulling the Kata and Containerd stuff into my new nixpkgs-kubernetes overlay.
<colemickens>
And if lucky, try to build chromiumDev with wayland support on a packet machine :)
<gchristensen>
super cool :)
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<gchristensen>
ya but my tools are better than the other ones
<joepie91>
I don't even disagree that some tools are better than others; or rather, some tools are objectively crap :P
<joepie91>
but... arguments, people!
<gchristensen>
oh I meant just cus they're _my_ tools
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<elvishjerricco>
Linux on DEX is pretty much exactly what I want for the new iPad. But android hardware is so far behind in performance...
<samueldr>
my biggest peeve with all the "security" around hardware: can't run your own stuff >:|
<samueldr>
(and then, when abandoned by the manufaturer, landfill-fodder)
<gchristensen>
the "do it anyway" switch on the chromebooks is nice
<samueldr>
yes
<samueldr>
as far as I'm concerned, that team has the right idea
<samueldr>
upstream everything, keep things open, without reducing security
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<elvishjerricco>
Why can't I use `strace -f` on NixOS?
<elvishjerricco>
Ultimately I'm trying to strace NixOps, but I'm being blocked by the fact that it's a wrapper script, so I don't see past the execve into the wrapper.
<elvishjerricco>
Disregard. I was accidentally strace'ing an strace :P Which I guess isn't allowed or something?
<joepie91>
today's yak to shave for me is building a window manager
<joepie91>
because that is a totally reasonable yak to have for a project
<simpson>
'x' is the domain-logarithm of 'x.y.com'
<joepie91>
lol
* simpson
maybe joking
<colemickens>
I don't necessary mean the second level though, just one less. "a.b.c.d.com" -> "b.c.d.com" rather than "d.com".
<colemickens>
"domain logrithm" lol
<simpson>
Oh, so like the domain-derivative. "The derivative of a.b.c.d.com (with respect to 'a') is b.c.d.com"
<colemickens>
there we go :)
<joepie91>
higher-level domain?
<ekleog>
the parent in the domain hierarchy?
<joepie91>
ah yeah, parent domain
<colemickens>
it's so obvious now :/
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<colemickens>
there have been as many packets over my wireguard interface today as over my ssh port
<colemickens>
but I don't use my wireguard setup. maybe time to rotate keys
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<endformationage>
simpson: A couple weeks ago you mentioned the Habitat Chronicles article 'What are Capabilities?'. After reading it, I of course ended up on a reading binge of many things capsec related.
<endformationage>
I am wondering if you're familiar with it?
<endformationage>
I have made my way through most of the disertation detailing the architecture, and it mentions E as part of the historical context from which it's inspired.
<simpson>
Interesting. No, but I'm sharing it with #erights.
<endformationage>
In short, it makes security a driving force of the architecture, embedding computation exchange in object-capabilities infrastructure.
<endformationage>
It has a reference implementation called Motile/Island, with a number of examples.
<simpson>
Very cool. It's always neat to learn about other capability-aware languages. I work on Monte, a relatively direct descendant of E: https://monte.readthedocs.io/
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<elvishjerricco>
Anyone else experience terrible indentation with nix-mode since upgrading to 18.09? Opening a bracket or paren or anything of the sort *always* changes indentation of the current line when I never want it.
<sphalerite>
elvishjerricco: apparently there's a non-default indent function that works better. idk myself though.
<elvishjerricco>
sphalerite: I tried changing it to indent-relative, since that one basically does nothing fancy. But didn't seem to take effect for some reason. Don't really know anything about emacs though, so I have no idea if I did it right :P
<sphalerite>
me neither, sorry :p
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<ldlework>
elvishjerricco: emacs?
<elvishjerricco>
ldlework: Yea
<ldlework>
elvishjerricco: i thought i fixed nix-mode and that the changes were merged long ago
<sphalerite>
maybe those changes are what "broke" it? :D
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* ldlework
shrugs
<infinisil>
Ugh.. nixpkgs having non-backwards compatible changes annoys me more and more